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salsa4ever
02-03-2007, 06:33 PM
Ok.

3.) The fact that shes a stripper and a hot one doesnt even enter your thinking? LIAR. You wrote in a previous post that you ONLY think of her as a stripper, am I the only one who is confused here? So you have forgone thinking of her as a hot stripper and now she is just your hot arm candy that you can stroll around with making others envious? NICE.

'Tis not *my* experience that all men want is pussy, its common knowledge...the drive *to mate* if you will, is what drives men and women alike in almost all situations. Be it the horny man who wants to spread his seed, unknowingly, by sleeping with alot of different women- to the woman who wants nothing more than to find a perfect man, get pregnant and start a family. Its nature and you cant stop or help it from being the truth. Mother nature is one hell of a siren who sings to you and makes you do her bidding even if you dont realize it. Chew on that salsa man.

In reference to point 3, I said "it does enter my thinking". I suspect you read it as "it doesn't enter...", so I'll ignore that part

On point 2, I'll take your example. Are you saying you just won't give out your number and cut the cute guy off because you have a boyfriend or just to acknowledge that you're attracted to him and see what develops from there? If you want to insinuate that seeing a stripper OTC in any context while I have a girlfriend makes me a loser, then I'm a loser.

The last paragraph I can't really argue against. But you're just telling me what is the "natural" thing to do and think. Am I just stuck with that now? It's equally natural to piss and shit anytime anywhere and most people seem to be able to control themselves.

As I said, I hate "this is just the way it is". So to summarize my position, I understand that I there are forces at nature at work and I agree with your interpretation of how they work. You say I'm basically at the mercy of said forces. I say I have sufficient willpower, control, and experience at doing it, that the role played by "nature" is small. On this point I suspect we'll just have to agree to disagree

salsa4ever
02-03-2007, 06:36 PM
not you. It was him that asked about my sense of entitlement. The way he worded it was just to be cheap, not to be fair, 100%

I was just a bit shocked by your initial comment and replied immediately before your subsequent clarification. I probably should have edited my comment but I left it there because I was so pissed off with my interpretation of your initial comment.

salsa4ever
02-03-2007, 06:43 PM
Oh I didnt mean it like that Masty-cakes...strictly platonic only. I am not trying to get you drunk so I can score baby, I just wanna be friends. Platonic friends.

Damnit! I have run out of witty comments now that I am sailing on the Lunesta boat...Ill be back tomorrow though, wittiness in tow.

Sure, make fun of me.

Echo 1: Salsa4ever 0. Rest assured I'm looking for my chance to get you back!

salsa4ever
02-03-2007, 06:55 PM
If a guy invited me on a date and didn't pay, he probably wouldn't get a second date.

This isn't a date. I know salsa people, they are a unique subculture. So what if he thinks she's hot and wants to fuck her. That's just biological. And aren't most lapdances in Australia airdances, not cock-rubbers? But that's not relevant.

If she comes to the salsa night and clicks with the crew (because there is always a crew), she will become a great friend and partner.

If they feel sparks, then he has to choose. But let's see what happens! Salsa, I hope you return to this thread! :)

I'm back already! Sneaking on stripperweb between giving lessons OMG somebody help me! I hope nobody finds out... if my colleagues/partners find out about my alias and this thread all hell will break loose!

Thanks for taking the words out of my mouth there. People just don't seem understand partner dancers. I don't blame them - I don't understand strippers either. But I try.

The club where I met this girl was not an air dancing club. I actually thought contact was the norm until Jazaine mentioned it was almost unique in it's mileage among clubs in melbourne. As you said, it's irrelevant

BTW, do you still dance? You mentioned you used to do it (semi?) professionally, so what made you stop? I feel as though the actual dancing is less thrilling than it used to be... but since I get to see the crew and hang out I still love to go.

Uh oh, time to work. I'll post tomorrow and tell you about tonight

WiseGuy_TX
02-06-2007, 04:39 AM
...we are waiting.

xBlackBettyx
02-07-2007, 08:17 AM
Ok now you have mentioned 2 things that totally change things that weren't in your original post:

- you are seeing someone
- and i think that we all assumed this was going to be a date. I was thinking dinner or something. But if its just to hang out then it's a bit different.

I would not expect my male friends to pay for me if we met up. I was only referring to a "date" - when a guy asks a girl out or even if the girl suggests it. But especially if the guy asks then he pays.

No I don't know any girls from kittens.
I hope I don't offend anyone here but the kittens Sc's are very borderline ah lets just say dodgy extras club so be careful with that one.

My guy friends usually pay for me if THEY invited. If I say "Hey, let us go out and frolick and pick up some food", then I pay for my share...I rarely pay when I go out with a guy, period. I just think I might be a cheap ass when it comes to eating places...It would be nice to pay for her food, but make sure she knows you're seeing someone else and you just want to be friends with her. Altough, she might think the same thing.

salsa4ever
02-07-2007, 07:54 PM
thanks for the concern wiseguy

the meeting went well, but I've been hurt badly in a totally unrelated matter and I'm pretty depressed right now so when I'm feeling a little better I'll give you a more detailed rundown :-)

Katrine
02-07-2007, 10:59 PM
thanks for the concern wiseguy

the meeting went well, but I've been hurt badly in a totally unrelated matter and I'm pretty depressed right now so when I'm feeling a little better I'll give you a more detailed rundown :-)

Hey salsa, sorry you're down! I hope you feel better soon. Lots of hugs and kisses from a fellow salsera.

salsa4ever
02-08-2007, 01:12 AM
Hey salsa, sorry you're down! I hope you feel better soon. Lots of hugs and kisses from a fellow salsera.

Thanks Katrine!

When I got to St Kilda (the venue) she was already there, dressed in a cute and sharp black and white twin set + miniskirt. Fantastic, she didn't no show me. Turns out she's a keen but fairly novice salsera. Said she liked salsa and a friend at her pole dancing class showed her some basics but she hadn't taken much lessons as most social lessons and classes happen on friday/saturday nights and that's when she busy working. As the band hadn't started playing yet the floor was almost empty and I taught her some of the commonly led sequences and showed her how to do turns and spins. Danced pretty much the entire first set with her and she seemed genuinely impressed.

During the band break we had a chance to talk. Somehow our conversation wanders to her financial worries atm... a boobs she wants to get and she needs to fix her car, and she's having trouble getting credit. Couldn't tell what her intentions were, so I just sympathized with her. A few minutes later she told me she's making less money than usual. I know that's probably true, from what I've read on SW. Again, I don't know whether she's trying to hint at something here, so I introduced her to my friends as a diversion. We didn't get a chance to talk much more that night.

She was popular with the gang and for the rest of the night she spent most of her time with her new friends at the bar or dancing. We'd share a dance or two every half and hour or so. That's pretty normal between friends.

Had the last dance with her. I asked if she'd enjoyed herself and whether she'd like me to keep her informed about other salsa happenings that don't involve her worknights and she sounded pretty enthusiastic.

So I'm glad I invited her out to a salsa dance. I realized she's even hotter than I thought she was. But the fact it was a salsa night put me in my comfort zone and I wasn't tempted to take things further. As for whether she's after money, I don't know and I don't care. Hopefully she had a good time. She seemed like having fun, and I enjoyed her company. So I'd say things went good!

Katrine
02-08-2007, 01:17 PM
During the band break we had a chance to talk. Somehow our conversation wanders to her financial worries atm... a boobs she wants to get and she needs to fix her car, and she's having trouble getting credit. Couldn't tell what her intentions were, so I just sympathized with her. A few minutes later she told me she's making less money than usual.

Hmmm, she could be baiting you BUT all you have to do is not acknowledge those types of comments in any saviour capacity. It doesn't necessarily make her a bad person. I'll tell ya, stripping can affect our mindset while we're in the middle of it. Perhaps she's just used to communicating that way with her hustle and hasn't turned it off. Me personally, I would catch it right away and probably call her on it, but girls know better than to try that shit with other girls.

So, enjoy it for what it is, a hot new dance partner!

Star Player
02-10-2007, 08:44 PM
Did you score? How can you say things went good if all you did was dance with her? I love the part about where her conversation wandered to her financial worries. This could have been your cue to offer to help her out.....for some good ol .......We have different concepts of dating strippers - my dates with them - well afterwards they want to clean up (most of them can do this and get dressed before I can even get out of bed) and get going and seldom want to do dinner - unless its a drive thru. This is fine with me bc once the sex is over I would rather just have them get on their way anyhow. Yea I like taking them to dinner - $1 double cheese burgers at the McD drive thru. Platonic relationship my A.

Whatever you do, don't fall for some ss drama stuff like she's gonna loose custody of her kids if you don't "loan her" $200 for the light bill. I don't care if it ruins the "date" - I do not give handouts or loans.......the really good hustlers will build up such a sense of urgency with you using their hypnotic charm that you will feel it is your duty to hand them your money. I once saw a guy hand a stripper $400 because she needed it to get the ac on her car fixed that day (and this after he had taken her bikini shopping to the tune of $250 a couple of days before) . Its like he was in a trance or something (she was practically passed out drunk when she asked for the money too) and he never saw that money again - a few weeks later he asked me how he could have done anything so stupid - I told him "Steve, all you had to do was get up and walk away from her. Didn't I tell you that ITC has its dangers?" He was rolled by a drunk! I can still remember even the surprised looks on the other girls at the table as he handed her the money like - is this guy nuts or what?

Katrine
02-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Did you score? How can you say things went good if all you did was dance with her?

Did you even read the thread fucktard? He's a salsa dancer. Salsa dancers like to dance with a variety of good partners. He might have found a new dance partner. He didn't go out with her to get laid. Meh, why do I bother?!? >:(

salsa4ever
02-13-2007, 09:12 AM
Did you even read the thread fucktard? He's a salsa dancer. Salsa dancers like to dance with a variety of good partners. He might have found a new dance partner. He didn't go out with her to get laid. Meh, why do I bother?!? >:(

thanks Katrine!

I'm starting to realize that a lot of people don't think remotely like me...

I haven't had the opportunity to browse SW for about a week now. Thanks for the advice too. She's agreed to come out on Thursday (that's the day after Valentine's day in Australia)

Minette
02-13-2007, 01:33 PM
I got in on this thread kind of late, and reading it is totally like a tv series (or maybe a webcomic) - I want to know what happens next! Mostly on the - is she after money or a friend? question. Tune in next update to find out!
Also, salsa4ever, just want to throw this out there so you don't get a complex about being cheap. I can't imagine myself, or any of my friends, expecting that whoever suggested an outing was the one responsible to pay, unless they stated they were going to so. We're very much a pay your own way crowd, or everyone buys equal numbers of rounds for all. This would have been doubly true in college, when we were all dirt-poor, and would have been shocked if someone offered to pay for someone else. We'd all assume that if you can't afford to pay for your own going-out - you say so, and don't go.

threlayer
02-13-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm getting in on this very late and its is probably over by now, but...

From what you said, it is not a date. Also she asked you for help with the poker thing. Here's my idea based on that and your desre not to become her SD, for which you will NEVER recover her respect.

Ask her how she's doing in the SC business (and assuming OK or words like that). Then offer to meet up with her (pre-poker training session) at a moderately-priced good place for dinner at her expense. If not, just spend a little time with her at the club chatting about poker strategies.

Then if you decide to ask her out for salsa dancing, then it is a date. What she proposed you two doing is NOT a date, and her response will indicate her sincerity.

I do not suggest that you go out with her for the purpose of sexxxing her up, unless something definite happens between the two of you eventually, and you are both free to do so. And then be very careful about the money thing.

Lysondra
02-13-2007, 09:17 PM
Y'know, after starting my dance lessons... I now often think of getting a new dance partner. Of course the first date would still be paid my who asked me....*cough*.... but after that...

Damn I wanna waltz with someone. :(

Star Player
02-18-2007, 06:55 PM
I would give her some lessons but leave the salsa at the Taqueria.

NWoD
02-19-2007, 01:37 PM
It's thread like these that really make you wonder whether they're truly is any such thing as "free sex".....

mdiver
02-19-2007, 03:07 PM
It's thread like these that really make you wonder whether they're truly is any such thing as "free sex".....

There is no free sex, "free sex" usually ends up costing more then p4p.

NWoD
02-19-2007, 03:32 PM
There is no free sex, "free sex" usually ends up costing more then p4p.

Increasingly so :'(

AndyI
02-20-2007, 12:46 AM
You know, I have found that when I met women (strippers and waitresses) OTC that I initially met in a strip club, and they were truly interested in dating or being friends (as opposed to hustling), they were always eager to demonstrate to me that it was not about the money to them. Either they would offer to pay for the whole thing or for their half. And they would be careful not to discuss money problems.

I think they are generally cognizant of the fact that you are going to weary due to the industry's "hustling" reputation. And they will be eager to prove the situation with you is different.

In this case it's sounds like she was asking you for the dance/poker lessons. Since you weren't looking for a date, treat hear like you would a normal (guy) friend: Since she suggested the meeting she should pay, or you should split it. And I won't be afraid to clarify things up front. If she truly likes you, as a friend, then asking her to pay for her half of dinner, when the expectation is friendship only is not unreasonable. Certainly clarifying the "who pays" expectation will not destroy her wanting to be friends with you if that is what she wanted.

If you had been looking to date her, and you had asked to meet for dinner, things might be different.

The situation kind of sounds a bit fishy to me. But it's not 100% certain. I think the game is still on and you need to see how it goes a bit longer. (Probably it would have been better if you said you had a rule about not discussing money problems with strippers when she brought that up.)

In the future, I would try and drop hints, or even explicitly say (politely!) that you are not her ATM.

Vyanka
02-20-2007, 08:53 AM
The hell, a guy should always pay on the first date.

Star Player
02-20-2007, 05:53 PM
It's thread like these that really make you wonder whether they're truly is any such thing as "free sex".....

It has not been free lately but real inexpensive.......

gingerlee
02-20-2007, 11:09 PM
The hell, a guy should always pay on the first date.

Agreed.

FBR
02-20-2007, 11:25 PM
I'm sure the OP has gleaned much useful information from the posts here but alas it has become redundant and tiresome so ~click~

FBR