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jaizaine
02-20-2007, 08:21 PM
Guys who talk about how much money girls at another club make and how you are beautiful enough to work at that club.

Guys who want to take you out "just for lunch/dinner."


AHHHH I hate these idiots they are actually stupid enough to believe the girls who say they pull $3K per night at the club down the road. I had an argument with one and could not convince him that she "might" be lying.

I also despise the lunch/dinner/drinks idiots that think it's actually a compliment to be asked out instead of paid for a dance.
The worst is the "your too beautiful, i don't want you to dance for me id rather take u out for dinner and get to know u as a person" - and they actually think this will warm your heart.

jaizaine
02-20-2007, 08:27 PM
Akward silences are bad, and my cue to ask immediately for a dance, do one or not, and then leave.


This is a very good one actually I almost never get a dance from someone I have been hustling when there is even one awkward silence pause.
It just shows both people that there isn't any chemistry.

Lola Rose
02-20-2007, 11:34 PM
it's really not that hard to avoid those aquward silences....

think of a few stock questions, and ask them when you need a filler...

1. is it still raining outside, it was pouring when I came in!
2. What are you drinking?
3. The waitress is sooo sweet, don't you agree
4. Music you like?
5. questions about where he's from. I espically like I've heard ___ about atl, is that true?
6. Have you been here before? when?what did you like most?

if you really, really need a filler and can't think of anything, say "omgosh, this is a somg i always dance too, let me go check to make sure I'm not missing my stage set!" then come back just before the next some, and sell him a dance.

21stcenturyfox
02-21-2007, 05:17 AM
god i hate awkward silences!

the last time i worked, i didnt here what this guy said and just smiled and agreed and then he looked at me like i was completely crazy and even said "you looked stoned". i was just completely exhausted. so i just made an excuse and left and then went home!

id love to know what he said...

p0sedtodeath
02-21-2007, 12:05 PM
I hate the "I don't want to take you for a dance but I'll take you for a drink or for dinner" ones too. WHY DO YOU COME TO A STRIP CLUB? And do you think I go to work to find a boyfriend?

Bridgette
02-21-2007, 03:34 PM
Houston is a BIG city ladies. Not all of the guys are aspd assholes. As a Houstonian most of my life, I feel this weird defensive pride, don't ask me why. But everyone's experiences are different. Not all Houston men are Derek/Star Player!!Trouble is, like with female customers, I've had enough bad experiences with men from Houston that I no longer see them as valuable customers. It's not what I've read online - it's what I've dealt with in person. That hamster cage again - get bitten enough you stop putting your hand in.

Lola Rose
02-21-2007, 03:47 PM
Trouble is, like with female customers, I've had enough bad experiences with men from Houston that I no longer see them as valuable customers. It's not what I've read online - it's what I've dealt with in person. That hamster cage again - get bitten enough you stop putting your hand in.

completely agree! I write in a journal every night, and I can look back to see asshole htown custys over and over. of, lets say every 50 houston custys, maybe 3 are good for more then 1 dance, and only 1 of those for a vip room. of those 47, 37 will get 1 dance, and no more, and 10 will bitch about no contact.

on the other hand, philly or boston custys are almost always good for multiples, and many for vip rooms.

Bridgette
02-21-2007, 03:51 PM
^^Agreed on Philly and Boston guys. I also often do well with NYC and Chicago guys. Moreso than not. ;D


Most Houston / southFL / San Francisco / LA / Detroit guys try for too much, complain about the lack of mileage, get belligerent, etc etc etc. Either one or a combo of those. So I have learned to move on quickly when I find out they're from one of those places - same way I never approach female custies anymore and go out of my way to avoid most of them.

Lola Rose
02-21-2007, 04:01 PM
^^^ yep yep!!! midwest guys are also good most of the time.

those are the exact guys I avoid too. Stupid complaints just distract me from making money, and sometimes put me in a funk. not worth it the very very slight chance they're decent.

Chrissy68
02-21-2007, 11:25 PM
i really have nothing to add other than... i agree that boston guys are great for VIPs, and so respectful of rules.

Pretty_Penny
02-21-2007, 11:30 PM
"He doesn't tip the waitress/bartender for the drink he ordered."

i ditch a guy IMMEDIATELY for that unless they are running a tab (since some put the tip on at the end).

jaizaine
02-21-2007, 11:36 PM
This post is slightly off point. Last night I had my best customer ever come in for the 2nd time - true gentlemen, sits with his hands by his side without being asked during dances, gives me $150 at a time for dances and last night spent $500 on me (boy I was happy). So basically I wasn't interested in talking to any other guy while this customer was still in the club. I go up to the bar to get a water while my customer was sitting down and this drunk idiot standing at the bar starts the "what's your real name, why do you's have stage names, how is giving your real name gonna put u in danger" - the whole time I'm just ignoring him and wishing the bar girl would hurry up with my water.
I just totally didn't answer him and walked back to my customer.

It's not a true time-waster category but don't u love the power it gives u when u have a huge spending customer in the club and u don't need to even bother talking to any of the time-wasters who IF they get a dance, it will be a cheap one.

GoldCoastGirl
02-22-2007, 02:08 AM
He doesn't tip the waitress/bartender for the drink he ordered.

Even here in Australia where there isn't a standard tipping culture as such I gauge the night on whether or not the waitresses are receiving tips and I do watch if the guy leaves his change (as our $1 and $2 are coins) or takes every last cent.... be it at the bar or away from the bar at his table (to the waitress). It speaks volumes.

If the guys are too cheap to tip the waitresses change (not even $1) this translates into other areas generally speaking. There are exceptions to the rule yet more often than not they aren't exceptions to the rule.


"when are you going up on stage next?" <that question means no dance to me!

It really depends on the club. Where there is no roster for the stage and there isn't a 'line up' as such of girls wanting to get on stage for whatever reason... then yes this can work. Otherwise if there is a roster at the club with set times then they guy is a time waster yet I will still invite him to watch me if he is still around when I am on one of the tables.

GoldCoastGirl
02-22-2007, 02:22 AM
Emily, GOOD DISTINCTION THERE! That definitely could be the deciding factor! I will remember to ask that Q of any Houston travellers.

For you guys it is Houston, for Australia it is anyone from Brisbane or Gold Coast. When I am dancing outside my own city, I try to steer clear of any South East Queenslanders who have partaken of the strip clubs there.

Why? Because they will be disappointed everywhere else in Australia since South East Queensland (and Kittens in Melbourne) is reknown for touching of the dancers in lap dances (because it is true).

Tho' there are always exceptions to this rule naturally. Suffice to say that I have made money off guys who are from that section of QLD elsewhere in Australia due to living there myself.

Goodness, I made money off a guy recently because of my skimpy work in Kalgoorlie ! I was probably the only dancer there that night that could speak about the town so confidently even tho' I haven't been back there in... well.. a loooong time. ;)


Also Indians. I know race shouldn't matter but once bitten twice shy for me. I've been bitten waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many time to count to want to go anywhere near them.

jaizaine
02-22-2007, 04:39 AM
Also Indians. I know race shouldn't matter but once bitten twice shy for me. I've been bitten waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many time to count to want to go anywhere near them.

100% agree.
Every dancer I have ever spoken to agrees. They get totally ignored in my club until they get bored of watching the stage and leave.

On saturday night I had to do a stage dance for a guy who I mistakedly thought was indian. I was shitty about having to do it, the club promoted it as it was his bucks night. Anyway later in the night he approached me for a $50 dance and I thought hang on a minute Indian's don't ask for $50 dances. So I start dancing for him and ask him what nationality he was and he said Persian (I think I can't remember actually) and he ended up buying multiple dances and I made a few hundred off him.
So make sure they are indian hehehe coz he did look it! But in reality indians NEVER approach for dances, they want to be approached, want to waste heaps of your time before getting a dance, want to be able to touch and whatever else for $20 or they might even try to hustle you for $10 dance which we don't do! AHHHH I won't approach them.

21stcenturyfox
02-22-2007, 05:38 AM
i really have nothing to add other than... i agree that boston guys are great for VIPs, and so respectful of rules.

oooh, i recently met a boston boy on a night out with some friends, what a lovely guy! looks like benitio del torio's son. but very respectful, i liked him :)

hot4ablackchick
02-22-2007, 10:57 AM
Guys that make the lame, "Oh I can't dance joke," when you ask them, or any other lame ass overdone by every cheapass response. Yeah, real funny dickwad.

Guys that ask you what you are doing after work.

I agree w/everything else too. Of course there a FEW exceptions to every rule but most of the flashy, braggy, I dated a stripper, do I look like I need a lapdance, when are you going onstage, whats your real name, why should I get a dance from, show me your ______, what do I get for _________, who is the hottest/best couch dancer(dirtiest)girl here, go see my buddy, oh I'm friends with the DJ/management/other staff, I would rather take you to dinner assholes are a waste of time.

Also, in my area at least, guys who wear full suits are often a waste of time. If they take off there jacket, loosen tie, etc, then there may be hope. But most of the time, the guys all 'done up' in a 3 piece are just pathetic posers waiting for gals to sit with them endlessly b/c they think they have money.

mina loy
02-22-2007, 02:51 PM
But in reality indians NEVER approach for dances, they want to be approached, want to waste heaps of your time before getting a dance, want to be able to touch and whatever else for $20 or they might even try to hustle you for $10 dance which we don't do! AHHHH I won't approach them.

i hate pulling the race/nationality card because there are exceptions. one guy from india gave me a $50 bill as a tip. and another spent a good sum on me.

in general, what jaizaine said is true (there are exceptions, though!). one guy tried to hustle ME for doing a 2-for-1 for only $10 AND to show him my boobs. are you kidding me?!

another time-waster is the guy at the bar who caps on me for my supposed lack of confidence and the fear he can see in me. as i wait for my glass of water he picks on me about how he can see through me and things like that. i don't understand people who take delight in putting others down like that.

ExoticEngineer
02-22-2007, 05:24 PM
^Funny, when I read "indians" I wasn't thinking men from India...I was thinking...you know, Indians (Native Americans)! In Az I avoid dancing for indians also....if he asks, I will happily go dance for him, but nine out of ten times, it doesn't end well.
As for men from India, well so far I have noticed that entire culture doesn't like my look, I have had only one say yes he'd like a dance from me.

Time wasters..... The guys sitting/standing/lingering at the bar where there is a high amount of girl traffic. They're never realyl sitting or standing, they kind of rotate, but are always ready to chat up the next girl that comes near the bar area. these guys drive me nuts!

jaizaine
02-22-2007, 06:17 PM
Guys that make the lame, "Oh I can't dance joke," when you ask them, or any other lame ass overdone by every cheapass response. Yeah, real funny dickwad.


Must be an international joke coz I have heard that one at my club in Melbourne. It's so lame I agree.

I also hate the one "what are you doing after work?" I always say "Well considering I started at 7pm and it's now approaching 7am I will be sleeping" - see it just goes to show they really think we are partying while we are at work, they dont realise how tiring it is.

Lysondra
02-22-2007, 09:06 PM
Must be an international joke coz I have heard that one at my club in Melbourne. It's so lame I agree.

I also hate the one "what are you doing after work?" I always say "Well considering I started at 7pm and it's now approaching 7am I will be sleeping" - see it just goes to show they really think we are partying while we are at work, they dont realise how tiring it is.

Or when they ask you what your day job is... jeezus christ.. I work 30 hours in TWO DAYS ALONE... why do I need an effing day job?

jaizaine
02-22-2007, 10:26 PM
Or when they ask you what your day job is... jeezus christ.. I work 30 hours in TWO DAYS ALONE... why do I need an effing day job?

Yeh totally coz it's not a real job that we do we are just partying and having as much fun as they are ;)

Bridgette
02-23-2007, 03:02 AM
Also, in my area at least, guys who wear full suits are often a waste of time. If they take off there jacket, loosen tie, etc, then there may be hope. But most of the time, the guys all 'done up' in a 3 piece are just pathetic posers waiting for gals to sit with them endlessly b/c they think they have money.I have had that experience EVERYwhere. I only remember one single guy all dressed in a suit who EVER bought more than one dance from me, tipped, and wasn't a fucking HUGE pain in the ass. IF they buy a dance they take alllllll the time they can tearing that $10 or $20 out of the wallet and hand it over like it just KILLS them to do so, all the while trying to grab everyfuckenthing they can on your body with the other hand ::) Jerkoffs.

The ONE guy in a full suit who EVER turned out to be a good customer was a Kuwaiti man in London on business. But the suit he had on just reeeeeked of money - his tie probably cost more than most people's entire outfits. That guy peeled off 50s from a huge stack, so thick he couldn't fold it, that he kept in his breast pocket. Just handed me one or two every few minutes for talking.


The ones who remove the jacket and loosen the tie (or remove it altogether) have usually just come from some business thing and are out to have a good time, and most often don't mind spending a little cash. Those guys often turn out to be pretty good (sometimes really good) customers :)

miss cleo
02-23-2007, 05:37 AM
I agree with all the above but in my club the guys are very rough round the edges and often rude or abusive when you approach e.g "Those tits are not real bla bla bla"

Lola Rose
02-23-2007, 01:22 PM
The ones who remove the jacket and loosen the tie (or remove it altogether) have usually just come from some business thing and are out to have a good time, and most often don't mind spending a little cash. Those guys often turn out to be pretty good (sometimes really good) customers :)

Those guys are usually dream custys! he first person on the floor I approach, b/c those guys spend ;D

Bridgette
02-24-2007, 12:03 AM
**thinks Lola Rose is a good hustler ;D

leogirl876
02-24-2007, 02:45 PM
Don't forget the idiots that say "are you going to pay me to dance for you?" Ughh, I hate that or when they're actually dancing around and thinking they're so funny. Don't they realize they look like the biggest idiot in there!

Or the ones that keep talking about getting a VIP room but when they just keep talking and talking about it, don't get dances, and keep having an excuse on why they're not going yet you know they're not going to spend. There's this one customer who comes in who claims he's this big shot lawyer with this huge house always is talking about wanting to get a VIP room but "is waiting for his friends to get here" or "wants to finish his drink" or whatever. Every girl that's been there for a while hates him because he says the exact same thing all the time but has yet to get a VIP room.

Or the ones that ask you "what really goes on in the VIP" or if he can touch you or "you better make it worth my while".

And I have to say that I've yet to have a nice customer that's from Texas!!!

Or the ones that talk about this big business they own like one was saying he owned like 30 Dominoes Pizza places and bitched that it was $100 to rent the room and $150 for a half hour! Yes, he was from Houston, yes he said I better make it worth his while and tipped the waitress really shitty!

Or the ones that say "Let me talk it over with my friends" or "let me think about it", you know that he has no intention of talking it over or thinking about it, he's just too much of a pussy to say "I'm not interested".

Or the ones that are sitting with their arms folded across their chest with an scowl on their face.

The ones that sit up at the tip rail and then don't tip anything because they're waiting for someone to tip the dancer so they can watch for free.

The ones that will watch other guys dances all night long but won't buy their own dance.

The club regulars that are in 3-6 days per week that hang out at the bar and drink all night and think they're cool and think they're "in" with everyone at the club. I hate those guys! We have about 7 of them that are always in but I've never seen them tip or ever get a dance, they're just there taking up space.

Lysondra
02-25-2007, 05:16 PM
My favourites are the guys in the orange jackets COVERED in dirt. Coal miners, baby! Down in a hole for three weeks... 2k a week... damn 6k to spend and nowhere but here to go! Gee, whatever shall I do to make it worth your money? ;)

jaizaine
02-25-2007, 05:54 PM
Miners are fucking legends. We had one come in one night spend a couple of grand and he even bought my garter for $50 to take back to the ship.

jaizaine
02-26-2007, 04:34 AM
I thought of another one that has been becoming more popular lately. Guys who want to show u pics of their girlfriends on their mobile (cell) phones.

Dude I don't giva shit.

Lola Rose
02-26-2007, 12:13 PM
**thinks Lola Rose is a good hustler ;D

Aww, thanks B!!! I'm a hustler baby, I just want ya to know!!!!

kylie3183
02-26-2007, 01:56 PM
normally anyone that orders draft beer instead of a bottle or mixed drink.

and i think some of the best are the ones wearing good denim. They're not TRYING to make it look like they have money, so they normally seem to work out.

Guys from Houston can be alright, as long as you remind them they're not at home. Rules are different here.

Sometimes the guys that want to know alot about you are just not dance guys, but maybe VIP material.

Massage guys are also good for VIPs. I always use the.... "I can't sit down here and let you massage me. I'll get in trouble, but we could take this upstairs for a half hour so you could rub all over me."

gingerlee
02-26-2007, 10:46 PM
Sooooo, to get back on topic, I know that I am wasting my time on a guy when he wants to know 'what he gets' if we go dance. They normally want more than I'm giving.

GoldCoastGirl
02-27-2007, 05:41 AM
Now, guys in suits are generally a no go right? Well last night (Monday night) two out of three ofa group of them went for a dance each and neither loosened their ties etc. I guess they were the exception to the rule? Just trying to say that you should take caution in making assumptions about people.

Alot of what is written within this thread is rather spot on from my experiences overall tho'

Lola Rose
02-27-2007, 10:23 AM
there was something specifically said about that. gou\ys in suits who relax/modify their clothing (take off the jacket, losten the tip, roll up sleves or anything like that) seem to be the exception of the rue ;)

GoldCoastGirl
02-27-2007, 08:13 PM
Yet they didn't do any of that ... that was what I was trying to say. They were three guys in suits with no sign of 'loosening the tie, taking off the jacket, etc'... and two of the three ended up purchasing a lap dance. So even the guys in suits who don't have any signs that they have 'loosened up' may even be potential customers that's all............. or so that is what happened that night. Exception to the rule :yes:

Lola Rose
02-27-2007, 08:59 PM
oh... i missed you saying niether....

one lttle word, whole diff meeting ;D

VegasPrincess
02-27-2007, 09:29 PM
Two items of clothing to look at :watch, and shoes.

Even if a guy is dressed casual bc he is on vaca, is a dumbass, has no sense of style, etc etc... if he has expensive shoes and watch on, he probably has cash.

Contrarily, guys who feel the need to get all dressed up in their one expensive suit to go to the club can be quite cheap.

It's also a general attitude: guys who act "scared" ... it's probably bc they know they don't really belong in the club, dont have $, imho

hearts
02-27-2007, 10:58 PM
The guys (usually in the 12-25 age range) who yell "Hey, come over here!" or "Hey come back!" or "Damn that girl's hot!" or whistle as you walk past. Yikes. I just pretend not to hear them.8)

Bridgette
02-28-2007, 07:52 AM
Two items of clothing to look at :watch, and shoes.

Even if a guy is dressed casual bc he is on vaca, is a dumbass, has no sense of style, etc etc... if he has expensive shoes and watch on, he probably has cash.

Contrarily, guys who feel the need to get all dressed up in their one expensive suit to go to the club can be quite cheap.

It's also a general attitude: guys who act "scared" ... it's probably bc they know they don't really belong in the club, dont have $, imhoLOL! We've discussed this recently - maybe earlier in this thread. Most people can't tell the difference between expensive vs cheap watches or shoes just by looking, especially in a dark club. So those things aren't good indicators at ALL for most of us. I look at their clothes, drinks and body language. Most guys with $$money$$ dress neatly and wear shirts of better quality, even if casual. That is much easier to discern in a club ;D

Lola Rose
02-28-2007, 01:58 PM
The guys (usually in the 12-25 age range) who yell "Hey, come over here!" or "Hey come back!" or "Damn that girl's hot!" or whistle as you walk past. Yikes. I just pretend not to hear them.8)

you have 12 year old in your club?!? :D

Lol. (I think you ment 21 ::))

georgiapeach
02-28-2007, 02:00 PM
you have 12 year old in your club?!? :D

Lol. (I think you ment 21 ::))

plenty of them may as well be 12 though, hehehe ;)

colleen
02-28-2007, 10:58 PM
How about the guys who want to complain about everything? like:

--Why doesn't the club serve alcohol?
--Why is it so dark in here?
--Why don't you take off your thong on stage?
--WHy do you have to wear latex on your nipples?

Blah, blah, blah. Don't ask me, dude. I only work here!

mina loy
02-28-2007, 11:32 PM
plenty of them may as well be 12 though, hehehe ;)

i was starting to think that if western culture didn't have such a hangup about boobs and alcohol, topless strip clubs could almost be family entertainment.

Lola Rose
02-28-2007, 11:56 PM
Ewwww!

I guess I'm too hung up for that. I couldn't be a sex worker for kids..... it's just not right!

cinammonkisses
03-05-2007, 07:32 AM
I had a dude on Friday say, " Well I would get a dance from you but it's a little to busy in here for me. I prefer a quieter atmosphere, you know like outside of here" I just smiled and said, "oh well sorry I coudln't help you with that" and moved the hell on. If you are already hinting to me what you came here for then 9x outta 10 I will not be able to change your mind.

StrayStripper
03-05-2007, 03:22 PM
If they say anything like, "I spent $8 million last time I was here!" because even if they did, they aren't going to spend it again.

Tart
03-06-2007, 10:16 PM
Im trying to get better about the watch thing , without being so god damn obvious at what im looking at and for. But the swatch watch and the casio ones are dead give aways lol

I will add this into the mix, my father is very very well off and this man wears walmart and fucking target shit. ...he's 58. the only thing on him that would give away that he has money..the watch. His shoes are prob from fucking target. He just doesn't care. he doesnt like people to know he has shit. because obviously when people know you have money to burn , they are up your ass for things. his cars and his watch. are the only outside things a person could tell from. Swear to god, he normally looks like a bum.

I think that might always be the sure fire thing with the watch. I use my dads style as my guide. I never thought i'd say that shit. He's not a cheap person, but to most men..fashion is fucking over rated. they have too much more to worry about.

But there is also a difference between wealthy and rich. My dad is rich., not wealthy. Wealthy people speak money. they look like money ...they smell like money. And they came from money.

Rich just means you got lucky. Or you worked your fucking ass off.


wealthy and those that are single and rich will dress in the best denim and good shoes. they are all about attracting attention.

Rich married men, dont give a fuck normally. so their watch is what I look at ( when married. )

when single, its the jacket , the shoes and the watch.

time wasters, are usually the ones that look too put together, not the ones that look too broke.

Corgan
03-06-2007, 10:43 PM
Agreed with all the posts above.

What I can't stand are the guys who come in who claim that they own a strip club in another state and when I finally ask them for a dance they say something along the lines of "I don't like lap dances. But if you want to make some real money come to my hotel room." I have had this happen to me several times.



ugh! i feel you on this one. totally. i sat with this guy once for about 10 minutes, he was telling me he owned a club in new orleans or something. i figured he was a time waster, so i left him and went to another table. glad i did, because i got about 10 dances out of these refinery workers. after i was done, the waitress got my attention and told me the "club owner" wanted to talk to me. i thought since he had seen me dance, he would want a few of his own, so i went over. he got me to sit down, told me that they should have nuts on the table for the custys to munch on, because he was hungry. (why tell me???) and then he told me that i should charge the table of guys $400 to play with myself!

i took him for a ghetto ass mother fucker looking for a whore to pimp out or something. now when i see men by themselves not buying drinks/tipping, i don't bother with them, at all.

Corgan
03-06-2007, 10:44 PM
and also, if they really owned strip bars, they would understand the business and would happily give you a dance or two =) after all, what's $50 to a club owner?

exactly nothing.