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Eric Stoner
11-13-2007, 09:31 AM
Urbanski does NOT have health insurance. What strip-club offers a health plan ? What he does have is a good lawsuit against Pac-man Jones and his posse. It appears as though the shooter may get away with it ( from a criminal standpoint ) thanks to the incompetence of the LVPD :

Item- The Police had evidence Jones fought with bouncers and threatened them yet was NOT arrested for assault. Why not ?
Item- A woman in Jones' posse, Sadia Morrison, attacked one dancer and hit bouncer Aaron Cudworth ( who was also shot a short time later) over the head with a champagne bottle but was NOT arrested for assault with a weapon. Why not ?

Item- The Police did NOT accompany Urbanski to the hospital in the ambulance. Why not ? This is SOP with a gunshot victim. If he I.D.'d his shooter it's admissible hearsay.

Item- Shortly BEFORE the shootings, Jones threatened to kill Cudworth. Numerous club employees have related these threats by Jones to reporters but to date, statements have NOT been taken by the LVPD. Why not ?

Item- Jones has hired the same law firm that represented Ray Lewis after he was implicated in a double stabbing murder at the Super Bowl in Atlanta.

Item- This whole mess is coupled with the effort by L.V. to get an NBA franchise. Las Vegas is due to make an arena proposal and a plan to handle gambling on NBA games in April.

Item- The Mayor of Las Vegas, Oscar Goodman is a former lawyer for the Mob.Far be it from him to encourage police pressure on a "witness" to roll over.

A few rays of hope- Gene Upshaw head of the NFLPA has not come out in support of Jones. The NFL Commissioner arguably has the power to suspend Jones for "conduct detrimental to the League " under the Hornung / Karras/ Namath suspensions by Pete Rozelle. If I were the NFL Commish I'd suspend Jones for Two Years w/o pay BUT tell him it would be reduced to 1 year IF he gave up the shooter and testified against him. Don't hold your breath.


According to Msn.foxsports.com Jones has agreed to a plea deal as have his two co-defendants. Jones will reportedly plead nolo contendre ( he's facing a major civil suit and doesn't want to admit guilt ) to one count of "Conspiracy to Commit Disorderly Conduct" a gross misdemeanor and will get a years probation , attend anger mgt. and do 200 hours of community service. Part of the deal is that he
has reportedly agreed to ID the alleged shooter and testify in all future hearings and at trial against him.

We'll see but I still say: Don't hold your breath. Believe it when you see it.

A sidenote- NFL Commmissioner Goodell refused to shorten Jone's one year suspension from the NFL.

Corgan
11-14-2007, 12:28 AM
i'm glad to hear everyone is okay!

Kaylinn
11-14-2007, 01:16 AM
According to Msn.foxsports.com Jones has agreed to a plea dea as have his two co-defendants. Jones will reportedly plead nolo contendre ( he's facing a major civil suit and doesn't want to admit guilt ) to one count of "Conspiracy to Commit Disorderly Conduct" a gross misdemeanor and will get a years probation , attend anger mgt. and do 200 hours of community service. Part of the deal is that he
has reportedly agreed to ID the alleged shooter and testify in all future hearings and at trial against him.

We'll see but I still say: Don't hold your breath. Believe it when you see it.

A sidenote- NFL Commmissioner Goodell refused to shorten Jone's one year suspension from the NFL.


I just saw this on the news...
I doubt they will ever get to the bottom of this. It really angers me.
ETA: My boyfriend just told me that on the news they said it hasn't yet been confirmed if he will ID the shooter or not.


In other Minxx news, reportedly( although I can't find proof) they have been bouncing thei payroll checks to their employees.

Eric Stoner
11-14-2007, 10:38 AM
I just saw this on the news...
I doubt they will ever get to the bottom of this. It really angers me.
ETA: My boyfriend just told me that on the news they said it hasn't yet been confirmed if he will ID the shooter or not.


In other Minxx news, reportedly( although I can't find proof) they have been bouncing thei payroll checks to their employees.

Without Jones testifying it's a LOUSY deal. I've said all along that he knows who the shooter is. The idea that someone just happened to inject themselves into a nightclub brawl that had nothing to do with them and started shooting is absurdly ridiculous. Jones is a glorified street thug with profound athletic talent.
To save his own ass from serious prison time it is credible that he'd break the "street code" of "snitches get stitches and end up in ditches".

Sindi
11-14-2007, 11:53 AM
i dont get it. this guy threw money in the air at dancers and then wanted it back? and he really thought hed get it back no problem?i heard some guy took money and fled from the club and that was another factor that started the shooting.were the other 2 people that got shot ok?


OMG , i am willing to bet that Pacman is gay . Seriously , he wanted to throw the money because he was more interested in competing with a guy and getting that guys attention that he was with anything to do with a SC and his complete lack of respect for women shows his frustration towards them , he blames women for not being able to turn him on . The thought of being gay has most likly never entered his mind .

MinahSky
11-24-2007, 10:32 AM
UGH. Only good thing out of it is that the men here in LA have learned that in order to make it rain you better throw $100 or more...and DO NOT EXPECT IT BACK!

I am glad no one here was hurt. Pacman Jones smashed some girl's head into the stage...JERK!

tmlsuperspice
12-01-2007, 03:37 AM
I worked at the minxx and it was HORRIBLE! There was too much drama going on from the get go and TIPOUT was waaay too high and stage rotation skipped you if you didnt have fake breasts and ass and lipoed tummies all the girls without these assets went on stage once or twice it simply was not worth the hassle of me going i would never go again and security was iffy i had a guy try to rip my thongs off and security stood by and looked at me like i was the guilty one while i pleaded for someone to get him away from me. It was probably one of the worse experiences I have had at a strip club. I feel bad that all star was in vegas it just was a waste of time and $$$.
I was working at Men's Club during All-Star. As a matter of fact, I left Minxx to start working at Men's Club. I wanted to go in and check out the dancers from Harlem Knights, but never made it over there.

Eric Stoner
12-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Jones pled guilty y-day to "Conspiracy to Commit Disorderly Conduct" a Gross Misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison. He is supposed to get probation in exchange for testifying against the shooter.

Optimist
12-07-2007, 01:21 PM
Yeah!!!! He should have come forward out of DECENCY! Not because his career was threatened.

Eric Stoner
12-10-2007, 08:05 AM
Yeah!!!! He should have come forward out of DECENCY! Not because his career was threatened.

It wasn't just his career although NFL Commish Goodell refused to shorten his suspension; it was his ass. He was lookinjg at 2 or 3 FELONY counts and with his record he could have faced serious prison time.

Eric Stoner
04-21-2008, 06:52 AM
Better Late Than Never.
Arvin Kenti Edwards is awaiting extradition to Nevada from Washington. He was already in custody on an assault charge and was being held on $50,000 bail.
Pursuant to his deal, "Pacman" Jones fingered him as the shooter in February, 2007 that left Tommy Urbanski paralyzed and two other wounded.

Eric Stoner
04-23-2008, 10:24 AM
The Latest Twist - Jones allegedly paid $15,000 in "extortion" money to the shooter, "Arvin Edwards" a New Orleans pimp in April 2007 but did not tell Police until September 2007. Jone's lawyer is trying to paint him as a "hero" for voluntarily coming forward.

I hope the Edwards case goes to trial so everyone can see what low-life scum ALL of these creeps are. Jones, Edwards and all their enablers.

VegasPrincess
04-23-2008, 10:07 PM
^^^

Amen. This whole incident happened the summer before I moved home and the whole thing left a very bad taste in my mouth about dancing in Vegas...

Like I have to worry about my head getting bashed into the stage for picking up my tips or I have to worry about getting shot??