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hardkandee
02-26-2007, 05:32 PM
I am so intrigued about this! I thought I'd heard it all when it came to plastic surgery... ;D (For the record, I'm not interested in doing this.)

Has anyone felt these things? I'd be afraid something that's used as a substitute for glass would be hard. :-\

Oooh. I found a link. http://www.internationalsurgery.com/body_fillers.php

Sirona
02-26-2007, 05:36 PM
Myself I just have a zillion question about it for no other reason the general curiosity. I would love-love-love to see hard facts about it and some before and after pictures! I'm not trying to be the voice of doom here. :) I understand that implants tend to feel fake or hard (although I met a gal who had them and you'd never know it) and wanting to find a better alternative. I just can't find ANYTHING factual anywhere... just anecdotal "I know a girl, my cousin said, I heard it's this" stuff.

Know what I mean?

hardkandee
02-26-2007, 05:37 PM
Myself I just have a zillion question about it for no other reason the general curiosity. I would love-love-love to see hard facts about it and some before and after pictures! I'm not trying to be the voice of doom here. :) I understand that implants tend to feel fake or hard (although I met a gal who had them and you'd never know it) and wanting to find a better alternative. I just can't find ANYTHING factual anywhere... just anecdotal "I know a girl, my cousin said, I heard it's this" stuff.

Know what I mean?

Me too. I guess I'm just nosey. ;)

Miami
02-26-2007, 05:46 PM
Bear with me, I have a bunch of questions and none are meant in a mean pissy manner, they're sincere.

So how do you go about finding someone "legit" as you put it?
With plastic/cosmetic surgeons, you can easily look up what thier statistics are as far as complications and deaths go as well as malpractice suits. You can't so that with the folks doing these injections. All you have to go by is what they say and general word of mouth. That means you have to just trust that what they say is truth. By all means, if you or anyone else is ok with that, that's your business but it seems rather irresponsible.

Another thing, where are all these people who are happy with thier results because the only person on this board who's ever posted on the subject that had it done personally recommended AGAINST it. Where are all the pictures? I couldn't find any at all anywhere. Isn't that a huge red flag?

As for PMMA and the argument that it's legal overseas, I agree that it's most likely safe to use... BUT...

It's used to fill lines etc on the face. Small areas. It isn't used for large areas. The fact is that injectible fillers used over large areas come out lumpy/uneven and the migrate.

I know someone mentioned you can have it removed if you don't like it... I'm sure you can but if it supposedly stays put and doesn't migrate,as was argued, how do they take it out? They have to dig it out along with surrounding scar tissue. Ever see the aftermath of someone who's had migrated silicone removed?

And why not travel to where it's legal to get it done? Why opt to have it done in a place where not only is it not legal but god forbid something bad happens you are left with no real recourse?

In the end it's your choice and if you feel safe doing it it's your decision. Just remember, there are a LOT of people out there who decided to have cheap/quick/easy procedures done that are now permanantly disfigured or dead.

You only get one body folks, you should want more for yourself.
Just my 2 cents.


I posted a few links...you should look thru them as well as what I've posted so far because you'd probably be able to find 99% of your questions, if not more, and to be honest I feel like I'm being very repetitive. This thread was not meant to be a whole debate on whether someone should or shouldn't get them. It was suppose to become a source of information about buttock injections and since I'm researching them..not trying to recommend or push anyone to get them I went ahead and posted what I've learned. They're are women in america who have done this...like the person on SW who seemed like she mainly regretted getting her butt done so big because she didn't list any major health problems...Her problems mostly consisted of jeans not fitting, not being able to hide it and a few other things.. that's just one case


but anyway...yes it can be done but it is risky...like I said many women in cities like new york, Atlanta, and places where big butts are popular get them...

Sirona
02-26-2007, 05:53 PM
I looked through the links when you initially posted them.

They're all surgical centers overseas correct? How's that apply to the ones being done here? I'm confused.

***Edit***

Sorry, wanted to clarify....

It answered the general "how it looks" thing but not in reference to the ones being done in the US below the radar. And i'm not trying to debate anything at this point i'm just curious about it in general.

If it was supposed to be a source of information about it then why is it bad to ask questions about it? And are we only discussing positive information?

Miami
02-26-2007, 06:09 PM
I looked through the links when you initially posted them.

They're all surgical centers overseas correct? How's that apply to the ones being done here? I'm confused.

***Edit***

Sorry, wanted to clarify....

It answered the general "how it looks" thing but not in reference to the ones being done in the US below the radar. And i'm not trying to debate anything at this point i'm just curious about it in general.

If it was supposed to be a source of information about it then why is it bad to ask questions about it? And are we only discussing positive information?


I doubt the PMMA lady who travels around giveing "under the table" butt injections would have a website. In one of my posts I said to go to www.makemeheal.com. There's a ton of women who had it done but they aren't open about it anymore. There's also a couple of pics. And if you search the web for pmma and HIV patience you'll find lots of info. It's real popular amongst them so you'll find a bunch of stuff.

Sirona
02-26-2007, 06:15 PM
I did search for PMMA being used with HIV/AIDS patients, all I found was info on how it was used on thier faces to give them a less gaunt look.

Whatever. Apparently my whole point has been missed....
If you want it done why wouldn't you go to a legal reputable doctor?

Anyhow never mind, it doesn't matter in the long run really.

seraya
02-26-2007, 06:38 PM
I just had to chime in here real quick even though I have more to add, but i'm on strict bed rest and shouldnt even be on here lol

Okay anyway.......

Someone from this thread PMed a while back asking for the contact number for the PMMA women. I PERSONALLY have no idea who she is and even if I did I wouldn't give out her info because I don't agree with promoting or advertsing some some random person who travel's the country, illegally, injecting acrylic or god know's what in to people's arse's.

Question? Why would you allow somebody you don't know from ADAM with no way of contacting - god forbid if anything went wrong, with no credentals and no medical practice to inject a chemical substance in your ARSE? How the fark do you know what EXACTLY she is injecting in to your butt? how do you know that is it 100% PMMA? and what happens if something terribly goes wrong? Also if you have an allergic reaction or your body reject's the substance how the heck are you gonna get that gunk outta your arse. PMMA is not like sillcone which is contained in a capsule and can be easily removed... PMMA is an injectable gel which dries to acrylic, that shit is tougher than glass. I'm just thinking about the trouble I have to go through removing acrylic from my nails let alone my backside.

I agree with sirona if you are going to go that route at least seek a reputable medical professional, even if it is abroad. At least that way if any problems should occur there is somebody to go back to.

Miami
02-26-2007, 06:40 PM
some pics of HIV patience who recieveved PMMA treatments in mexico..

http://www.facialwasting.net/photogallery01.html

nothing dramatic since it wasn't cosmetic...

Sirona
02-26-2007, 06:57 PM
some pics of HIV patience who recieveved PMMA treatments in mexico..

http://www.facialwasting.net/photogallery01.html

nothing dramatic since it wasn't cosmetic...

Ya. I SAID I saw and read about it being used that way.

Once AGAIN... I have NOTHING against the use of PMMA.

AGAIN i'll point out the link you posted is for a place OVERSEAS.

Miami
02-26-2007, 07:08 PM
A couple of females that had them done in the US ....


http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/viewAlbum.php?albumid=2550

http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/viewAlbum.php?albumid=2535



This was done at international which is in Venezuela but I love how her butt turned out...

http://www.internationalsurgery.com/gallery.php?pageNum_Recordset1=12&totalRows_Recordset1=13&procedure=Body%20Fillers&idp=10

seraya
02-26-2007, 07:24 PM
^ You're MISSING THE POINT.

I don't believe that anybody is disputing the use of PMMA just the fact that some of you are prepared to allow some tom, dick or harry inject any ol' shyt in to your bum. It's not as if you can even have a consultation with this woman. The women on that site and other internet site's who claim to have had work done by this women aren't what you would call reliable sources or verifiable refrences.

I don't think that there is anything wrong with what you are wanting to do, I just don't see why you wouldn't prefer to go a safer route. The whole mysterious "PMMA lady" thing is shady.

Miami
02-26-2007, 07:37 PM
^ You're MISSING THE POINT.

I don't believe that anybody is disputing the use of PMMA just the fact that some of you are prepared to allow some tom, dick or harry inject any ol' shyt in to your bum. It's not as if you can even have a consultation with this woman. The women on that site and other internet site's who claim to have had work done by this women aren't what you would call reliable sources or verifiable refrences.

I don't think that there is anything wrong with what you are wanting to do, I just don't see why you wouldn't prefer to go a safer route. The whole mysterious "PMMA lady" thing is shady.

My above post had no point...they were just pictures

seraya
02-26-2007, 07:40 PM
Ok my bad! sorry miami.

I need to shut up and go back to bed.

seraya
02-26-2007, 07:45 PM
Btw the pics in the gallery on internationalsurgery.com are nice. WHy don't you go there? They are widely known for their buttocks augmentations. They just started doing the PMMA shots.

At least if god forbid anything goes wrong you have somewhere to go back to.

smartcookie
02-26-2007, 08:11 PM
The center has an abysmal reputation. In addition, "bioplastia" as it's called in South America, is something done by unqualified non-medical personnel, such as estheticians. The complications have reached epidemic levels, so much so that :



You don't need to speak Spanish to understand this, do you?

http://www.cirugiaplastica.com.ve/images/PhotoArticuloBiopolimeros2.jpg

/\ That's a necrotic, ulcerated ass that has been filled with biopolimeros, or bioimplantes as they're called. Pretty, isn't it?

PMMA is intended for small areas like the cheeks in patients with HIV anti-viral caused lipoatrophy. It is not intended in amounts as large as the ones that these unqualified individuals are blindly injecting into their victims. Furthermore, it's doubtful that it's PMMA that's being injected. It's most likely industrial grade silicone. There are dozens of these operators across the US at any given moment, but this is the most brazen operation I've ever seen or heard of.

I suggest that women who are interested in fat injection or buttock implants by qualified medical personnel at a reasonable cost register for . Interestingly enough, the MMH group of women touting "butt injections" were censored on PSJ after they tried to start their little scam (which they get referral fees for, BTW) and became hostile when people starting asking basic questions. Their ringleader has admitted off the record that the Peruvian "pmma lady" fills her syringes from empty soda bottles with the product she calls both "hydrogel" and "pmma" inside (actually, those two substances are not the same thing at all) so that she can clear Customs undetected. It's a real class-act operation.

seraya
02-26-2007, 08:16 PM
^ Obviously these ladies didn't do their research like they claim they did. That shit is disgusting.

I'm happy that you posted this info SM, I hadn't read about this (but then again I haven't really looked into the matter) I know that hydrogel was banned in the UK.

I knew the "PMMA lady" was shaddy.

hardkandee
02-26-2007, 08:18 PM
Whaaa??!?!

Scary ass!! :O

Miami
02-26-2007, 08:25 PM
The www.internationalsurgery.com center has an abysmal reputation. In addition, "bioplastia" as it's called in South America, is something done by unqualified non-medical personnel, such as estheticians. The complications have reached epidemic levels, so much so that the very highly-regarded Venezuelan Society of Plastic Surgeons has released an emergency bulletin warning against their use (http://www.cirugiaplastica.com.ve/CanalDetalle.asp?Id_Canal=6&Id_Cirugia=44):

http://www.cirugiaplastica.com.ve/CanalDetalle.asp?Id_Canal=6&Id_Cirugia=44

You don't need to speak Spanish to understand this, do you?

http://www.cirugiaplastica.com.ve/images/PhotoArticuloBiopolimeros2.jpg

/\ That's a necrotic, ulcerated ass that has been filled with biopolimeros, or bioimplantes as they're called. Pretty, isn't it?

PMMA is intended for small areas like the cheeks in patients with HIV anti-viral caused lipoatrophy. It is not intended in amounts as large as the ones that these unqualified individuals are blindly injecting into their victims.

I suggest that women who are interested in fat injection or buttock implants by qualified medical personnel at a reasonable cost register for www.plasticsurgeryjourneys.com. Interestingly enough, the MMH group of women touting "butt injections" were censored on PSJ after they tried to start their little scam (which they get referral fees for, BTW) and became hostile when people starting asking basic questions. Their ringleader has admitted off the record that the Peruvian "pmma lady" fills her syringes from empty soda bottles with the product she calls both "hydrogel" and "pmma" inside (actually, those two substances are not the same thing at all) so that she can clear Customs undetected. It's a real class-act operation.


Damn that's some crazy shit....lol
very valid post..thanx a lot..I knew I fealt funny about international from a few things I read..where did you find that info about MMH??

smartcookie
02-26-2007, 08:28 PM
Here's a very rough translation of the link that I posted:

Biopolymer Bamboozling

The risk of “bioimplantes” (as we’ll refer to biopolymers here) is so high that we have deemed it a public health issue. Their use is causing irreversible injury to patients, a situation that is worsened by the fact that these procedures are typically performed by unqualified personnel unaware of the risks to the client (cosmetologists, etc). The number of people willing to undergo these procedures is also increasing due the attraction to aa cheap, “quick fix” that is highly promoted.

At the moment there’s a deluge of advertising for “injectable gluteal fillers ", also called "expandibles cell fillers"....and which nothing more than microspheres of meth-acrylate in suspended in silicone. If nothing else, we hope that this bulletin will heighten awareness of the problem and redress the grave injuries being done.

The vast majority of these products are being distributed without a license, and this reality has to force the appropriate authorities to do something about it. This is what the Venezuelan Society of Plastic Surgery is campaigning to achieve.

We’ve alerted the general female public about the new practice of injecting silicone into the breasts, a criminal procedure that was thought to have been abandoned, but has reaappeared thanks to unscrupulous individuals. No type of injection to the mammary glands is acceptable.

We are fighting to end these illegal and harmful practices.
If you know of any complications by these any type of these “bioimplants”, please report them to the the Venezuelan Society of Plastic Surgery by e-mailing [email protected] or calling 0212 - 978.3886. Your report will be confidential.

Bridgette
02-26-2007, 08:42 PM
I don't think the fact that story is "international" in any indication that getting the same thing done here ILLEGALLY by people with NO CREDENTIALS is better or safer ::)

I still think this thread is nothing but a shill AD by someone trying to sell ILLEGAL and DANGEROUS procedures to our members. Ladies, PLEASE beware!!!

I don't care if you chic(s) like what I have to say or not.

Miami
02-26-2007, 09:19 PM
I don't think the fact that story is "international" in any indication that getting the same thing done here ILLEGALLY by people with NO CREDENTIALS is better or safer ::)

I still think this thread is nothing but a shill AD by someone trying to sell ILLEGAL and DANGEROUS procedures to our members. Ladies, PLEASE beware!!!

I don't care if you chic(s) like what I have to say or not.



umm okay..lol

international is a clinic btw....

And there's no reason to start suspiciously pointing fingers for no reason because so far I haven't read not one thing that advertises the shots.. I'll let you know if I do read something iffy though

I think some of us are seeing the glass half full while others are seeing it half empty....

again....There are women who have had this done and have been fine..that's a deffinate..as well as people who haven't been so lucky

I understand that the substance can be dangerous and all that...but then there's a chance that it isn't dangerous

All I know is that it can be done....as long as the person dosn't use anything crazy for the injections

And I also know it dosn't hurt to try to find more informaton on them...who knows maybe by the time we're done looking for info they'll be legit in the US

PaigeDWinter
02-27-2007, 12:43 AM
Awesome.

http://messageboards.makemeheal.com/viewtopic.php?p=132414
http://www.makemeheal.com/forum/viewThread.jsp?forum=27&thread=3094
http://www.makemeheal.com/forum/viewThread.jsp?forum=27&thread=10702

Sirona
02-27-2007, 05:04 AM
LOL Paige. Those are some glowing recommendations eh?


...
I think some of us are seeing the glass half full while others are seeing it half empty....

again....There are women who have had this done and have been fine..that's a deffinate..as well as people who haven't been so lucky

I understand that the substance can be dangerous and all that...but then there's a chance that it isn't dangerous

All I know is that it can be done....as long as the person dosn't use anything crazy for the injections

And I also know it dosn't hurt to try to find more informaton on them...who knows maybe by the time we're done looking for info they'll be legit in the US

Uh did you miss the part where it was said the PMMA chick carries it around in old soda bottles?

Ya.

That's sterile.

Look anyone who would preform illegal medical procedures is morally corrupt and doing it for money. If you think going to someone like them rather than a real doctor (in a country where it's legal) is a good choice than maybe you need to rethink your decision making process.

And one more time, because it still hasn't been answered...
Why would you choose to have it done here where you can't verify what the substance is that they're injectiong you with, aren't having it done in a sterile environment and can't verify the persons medical credentials instead of where it's legal by and actual doctor?

Bridgette
02-27-2007, 05:15 AM
And one more time, because it still hasn't been answered...
Why would you choose to have it done here where you can't verify what the substance is that they're injectiong you with, aren't having it done in a sterile environment and can't verify the persons medical credentials instead of where it's legal by and actual doctor?
Answer: She's not trying to buy the injections. She's trying to SELL them ;)

Miami
02-27-2007, 07:35 AM
You two are obviously extremely egocentric....

What I'm wondering is why you continue to misinterpret my perspective and repetitively ask questions that I've already answered

I've explained my perspective endlessly but this isn't about perspectives or even ethics or morals or whatever title you decide to put on it

If you have decent reading skills you'd know that I'd prefer to go out of the country....BUT this thread isn't suppose to be about why or where I'd do it....It's suppose to be about the shots period...with Good and bad info alike

I'm sure all types of.....
diet pills
miracle weight loss shit
pills for breast growth
(and some are sent from other countries and aren't even legit here)
and starving yourself to lose weight


isn't healthy and can lead to serious serious health problems and can even lead to death but there isn't an automatic objection to it on this forum...

I'm sure if the topic was a different way to make your tits grow ya'll would've been all over it and posting relevant information.....

You ladies really don't understand the perspectives of those who are interested in butt augmentation so I don't know why you make it a point or even bother to down the procedure and disrespect people who truly want to learn more about it...because if it was about that we can do that with just about anything

we can sit here and find sooo many nasty pix of deformed breasts and lots and lots of articles about leakage and post against it claiming that even though they may seem great they can kill you....or harm you in some way...when people say they are going to get a boob job they can be going to anyone or even getting something injected but we wouldn't be questioning it....would we...

I'm not saying that breast surgery is the same thing because legally it's not...but everything, whether it's done in the open or not, has it's nasty side and some become victims to cosmetic procedures no matter how common it is...Same with the injections...It has it's nasty side but also has it's good side....and of course it carries a greater risk because it's not done by a doctor...we got the point

I don't know what you chics have against large asses because when someone attempts to ask about implants or grafting ya'll are trying to push them to do squats...and when someone even mentions injections your panties get all in a bunch...

I'm sure we would've and could have found all the information without any disrespect to anyone or any bad vibes

Bridgette
02-27-2007, 07:43 AM
I'm sure all types of.....
diet pills
miracle weight loss shit
pills for breast growth
(and some are sent from other countries and aren't even legit here)
and starving yourself to lose weight


isn't healthy and can lead to serious serious health problems and can even lead to death but there isn't an automatic objection to it on this forum...

Oh yes there is. All the time. People on this site are ALWAYS warning each other of the known risks involved with anything we talk about related to our bodies (and many other things too, for that matter). Basically, if something is risky we warn each other about it. Why wouldn't we? Our bodies are our very livelihoods.

I assume you either don't know what you're talking about and are talking out of your ass on this one, OR you are just flatout lying to promote your own agenda.

Miami
02-27-2007, 07:43 AM
LOL Paige. Those are some glowing recommendations eh?



Uh did you miss the part where it was said the PMMA chick carries it around in old soda bottles?

Ya.

That's sterile.

Look anyone who would preform illegal medical procedures is morally corrupt and doing it for money. If you think going to someone like them rather than a real doctor (in a country where it's legal) is a good choice than maybe you need to rethink your decision making process.

And one more time, because it still hasn't been answered...
Why would you choose to have it done here where you can't verify what the substance is that they're injectiong you with, aren't having it done in a sterile environment and can't verify the persons medical credentials instead of where it's legal by and actual doctor?


"The PMMA LADY" Isn't just one lady...I'm sure there's a few people who do them because if there wasn't I'm sure all the women who have got them wouldve had problems...and not all of them do

Miami
02-27-2007, 07:54 AM
Oh yes there is. All the time. People on this site are ALWAYS warning each other of the known risks involved with anything we talk about related to our bodies (and many other things too, for that matter). Basically, if something is risky we warn each other about it. Why wouldn't we? Our bodies are our very livelihoods.

I assume you either don't know what you're talking about and are talking out of your ass on this one, OR you are just flatout lying to promote your own agenda.

No...in these subjects there hasn't been an automatic objection to a topic.....warnings maybe...I know exactly what I'm talking about hun...I may not post much but I do come here to get informed on thing's like weight and fitness since my body is also my livelihood....and I have seen endless post on pill and and how to loose 10 pounds in a week::)

Bridgette
02-27-2007, 09:52 AM
Perhaps the nature of this topic evokes a bit stronger response from people? Maybe YOUR attitude and vehement objection to the warnings is fueling the major negativity on this??

VenusGoddess
02-27-2007, 10:01 AM
again....There are women who have had this done and have been fine..that's a deffinate..as well as people who haven't been so lucky

I understand that the substance can be dangerous and all that...but then there's a chance that it isn't dangerous

Actually, this stubstance is extremely dangerous. I think that the point you are trying to make is that maybe YOU won't react as strongly to this substance being injected straight into your body. At the same time, since you cannot verify exactly what is being injected into your body, how do you know whether the substance is dangerous or not?

Whether or not you get these butt injections, I think it's important to say that you are foolish. You cannot research these things. You cannot go online and see some illegal activity site that has these people on there with glowing reviews (She injected something from a soda bottle that was kinda clear and gelatinous...with a needle that she assured me was used in the person before me, but that the person doesn't have AIDS or any other communicable disease. She knows this because she can tell by looking in their eyes. I was a little uncomfy until I noticed that she used hand sanitizer to clean off the needle. The sanitizer does kill 99% of all bacteria, you know. bwahahaha).

If you are going to invest in getting any form of plastic surgery, go where you can research the clinic, the doctor, and where--if anything were to go wrong--you have recourse. Going with a black market "doctor" only gives you two things: hope that you don't have a negative reaction and hope that the stuff they pumped into you is what they said it was.

Another aside...thinking that these injections will not cause problems with the rest of your body because they are injected into an isolated part of your body is also foolish. When the silicone implants (years ago) ruptured, they cause massive problems...and not just in the breast site...but eyesight problems, muscle and joint problems (all over the body), the silicone affected the nervous system, and caused people to have massive medical complications all over the body. Just because you inject something into one area of the body does not mean that it will stay there. Which is doubly alarming if you are getting injections from someone who has no credentials and cannot provide proof of the substance they are injecting.

As for the other topics with weight loss, etc. If you read through the entire thread, you will find people who caution against starvation-type weight loss, using pills to lose weight, etc. If you are going to do something to your body, know your body and how it really works.

Sirona
02-27-2007, 10:02 AM
You two are obviously extremely egocentric....
Oh damn. You caught us. Whatever shall we do now.


If you have decent reading skills
Says the person with abysmal grammar, spelling and punctuation skills.


you'd know that I'd prefer to go out of the country....BUT this thread isn't suppose to be about why or where I'd do it....It's suppose to be about the shots period...with Good and bad info alike
Yes, good and bad info. Except when someone posts negative info or makes an inquiry about something that you don't want to answer you go into a tirade about what the thread is or isn't about.

Incidentally where is it that you explained why seeing some hack is a better option than a real doctor? I still haven't seen anything at all explaining why anyone should go that route although you claim to have covered the topic extensively...


I'm sure all types of.....
diet pills
miracle weight loss shit
pills for breast growth
(and some are sent from other countries and aren't even legit here)
and starving yourself to lose weight


isn't healthy and can lead to serious serious health problems and can even lead to death but there isn't an automatic objection to it on this forum...
Uh ya. That's a load of crap. Do some topic searches before you run your mouth eh? Anytime someone has posted asking about starving themself or tit pills or anything else along that line the girls respond the same way. If it sounds to good to be true it is or they point out something is harmful and stupid to do.


I'm sure if the topic was a different way to make your tits grow ya'll would've been all over it and posting relevant information.....
Ya. Once again, we'd post RELEVANT info. That's good AND bad.


You ladies really don't understand the perspectives of those who are interested in butt augmentation so I don't know why you make it a point or even bother to down the procedure and disrespect people who truly want to learn more about it...because if it was about that we can do that with just about anything
How is it we don't understand? We aren't putting down the procedure. We aren't disrespecting anyone who wants it done. We ARE saying if you go to some unlicensed person and let them inject you with god knows fucking what you're not real good at making good decisions about your health and welfare.


we can sit here and find sooo many nasty pix of deformed breasts and lots and lots of articles about leakage and post against it claiming that even though they may seem great they can kill you....or harm you in some way...when people say they are going to get a boob job they can be going to anyone or even getting something injected but we wouldn't be questioning it....would we...
See here's the thing. Anyone knows when they have cosmetic procedures done they run the risk of complications. However they're smart enough to take the proper steps to do what they can to minimize those risks. They aren't going to go have it done by some person with no valid medical license operation outside a medical facility in a non-sterile under equipped location.


I don't know what you chics have against large asses because when someone attempts to ask about implants or grafting ya'll are trying to push them to do squats...and when someone even mentions injections your panties get all in a bunch...

I'm sure we would've and could have found all the information without any disrespect to anyone or any bad vibes

Uhhhhh actually grafting and implants were given as the proper alternatives for butt augmentation. In addition exercises that can help you increase your ass size are given. WTF is wrong with that!??! I mean really? WTF?

AND NO ONE CARES IF YOU GET INJECTIONS.
Did you get it this time? I put it all in caps so maybe you won't miss it this time around.

We're against illegal non-sterile performed by some scumbag out to make a buck injecting you with sink caulk bullshit. Get it?

In closing, do what you want. As far as i'm concerned if you care so little for yourself and your health, have a great time. Get all maimed/disfigured/dead. Knock yourself out!

Just don't promote it to other people as a viable option. It's a fucked up thing to do.

Jenny
02-27-2007, 10:24 AM
I'm sure all types of.....
diet pills
miracle weight loss shit
pills for breast growth
(and some are sent from other countries and aren't even legit here)
and starving yourself to lose weight


isn't healthy and can lead to serious serious health problems and can even lead to death but there isn't an automatic objection to it on this forum...

I actually think you are very much mistaken. If you read posts on anorexia and bulimia, they are very much perceived as an illness, and not encouraged here - we do not hate people who suffer from it but if anyone started posting BETTER ways to be anorexic I think she would be very harshly excoriated. Illegal meds to help you lose weight - again, look for a thread that encourages girls to use meth to get thin. Illegal meds to increase breast size would have a similar reaction (although the only items I have seen on this are Bloussant and the Pill both of which are legal and unlikely to kill or disfigure you). See the reactions. We have this silly idea that illegal surgery should be discouraged and that information on how to mutilate oneself through dangerous and illegal procedure should, if allowed, be adequately balanced with the sobering reality of the danger and poor judgment associated with such procedures. You have not yet been censored or hushed on the topic - there is, then, NO justification in demanding that other people remain silent on very salient and important parts of this topic. We are, as you noted, here to help each other - but there is a significant difference between "helping" and "enabling".

PaigeDWinter
02-27-2007, 10:36 AM
BUT this thread isn't suppose to be about why or where I'd do it....It's suppose to be about the shots period...with Good and bad info alike

No, it's supposed to be about where to get them in ATLANTA. Not quite the same. Sorry.




I don't know what you chics have against large asses because when someone attempts to ask about implants or grafting ya'll are trying to push them to do squats...and when someone even mentions injections your panties get all in a bunch...




As a girl with a naturally HUGE ass.... I have to giggle here.

People suggest squats because it's a) easier and b) free and c) has a higher % of satisfaction.

smartcookie
02-27-2007, 11:00 AM
You know, this posse promoting backalley booty injections have folllowed the same pattern on PSJ, MMH, beautysurge.com, and now SW.

One new poster shows up with questions about the "hydrogel lady" or "pmma lady". Then another new helpful poster follows immediately, magically, with a wealth of information. Coincidence? I don't think so. This is a marketing ploy designed to build interest in captive audience, and those involved get referral fees from the person who administers the injections.

This individual is showing her lack of medical qualifications by injecting amounts as large as 500 cc in a single session. Even in Bioplastia clinics in Brazil, practitioners limit the amount to 150 cc per cheek, then repeat a maximum of three times spaced in 6 week intervals until the final result is achieved. If the product is "gushing out", as was reported in one of the MMH links, there's something terribly wrong.

It's also interesting to note that "Amazing Gel", a hydrogel product produced and made in China, was recalled from the market in 2006, after an enormous amount of complications and adverse reactions in patients. You can read about that here:

nia62
02-27-2007, 11:39 AM
100% correct (what you've read);) Especially the "feel fake as hell" part.

This is the only reason I pipe up, and get so frustrated everytime someone asks about the injections, and is basically told they should get implants. They are NOT the same.
As far as I'm concerned, its like me starting a thread about my new Cartier glasses, or which frames to buy, and everyone telling me to get Lasik. I don't want Lasik, I'm not asking about Lasik, I'm asking you gals if you know anything about Cartier frames, and to share your opinion on them.

Sirona, you're right, and we've been down this road b4. The info regarding the risks is relevant. There's no denying that. I can just understand the OP's frustration in starting a thread, and hearing nothing but why she shouldn't even consider it, and I don't mean that YOU did that.

When there's a thread about tanning, I don't say too much. I don't tan, and I don't put my 2 cents in about hour dangerous it is. Its already well-known.

After the first person has already pointed out the risks, why does everybody have to jump on the band-wagon and brow-beat the OP to death?

Oh thank you so much!!! I greatly APPRECIATE that kind of opinion. That other criticism stuff, i'm done with. I never came on this board to be a b**** as someone put it. Just for positive feedback and help with the info I need. How the hell does a question i ask make me look suspicious? Lmao i didn't know we had FORUM police on here. Do you have forum police DOGS too? Maybe they can sniff out whether or not i'm LEGIT or ADVERTISING. Funny. Anyway, implants are my last option because i prefer not to dance in front of a lot of men with a butt that may not possibly look AS natural as the injections. Not saying that anyone on here with implants has a bad looking butt. All the pics i've seen are great. But i also read the implant butts look more firm like a worked out butt. And that's a nice butt. But i work in the south, in a black club where its very popular to do butt tricks like "clapping" and things like that. Thats what gets us money. I can't accomplish that with implants. And i don't have any body fat for fat grafting.

Miss_Luscious
02-27-2007, 11:41 AM
So wait, has there actually been any information presented in this thread regarding where to get butt injections in Atlanta? Because all I seem to have read is 4 pages of "You're dumb for wanting butt injections because it's dangerous" and "You're dumb for telling me I'm dumb". WTH
How about this; whoever has relevent information on buttshots in Atlanta please post. Whoever just wants to say how dangerous and evil buttshots are please stop posting because we get it.

Sirona
02-27-2007, 11:45 AM
So wait, has there actually been any information presented in this thread regarding where to get butt injections in Atlanta? Because all I seem to have read is 4 pages of "You're dumb for wanting butt injections because it's dangerous" and "You're dumb for telling me I'm dumb". WTH
How about this; whoever has relevent information on buttshots in Atlanta please post. Whoever just wants to say how dangerous and evil buttshots are please stop posting because we get it.

Well gee, that seems to be the issue doesn't it?

No one is willing to post any real information on the subject in any way shape or form except to claim how fantastic it is.

Katrine
02-27-2007, 11:47 AM
You can make your booty pop and clap without having a huge ass, although it certainly looks impressive with a bigger butt. Those butt tricks are orginated in the muscles, with joints being adjusted strategically for effect. I don't know why I'm piping in, except that getting shots of implants isn't going to help you with these tricks.

If your booty isn't large enough for your taste, and you don't want to do the excercise or get the implants, perhaps you are not meant to be a "booty-clapping" type of stripper and should look into another club or another line of work. Perhaps you can get a nice civil servant job with the government.

Miss_Luscious
02-27-2007, 11:53 AM
I think what many of you are failing to realize is that for black stripper in black clubs, the ass is all that matters. But tricks with a little ass will not get you money. It's not all about hustle or outfits or seductiveness. It's about ass plain and simple.

And I guess I'm done posting in this thread because I am not posting any relevent info either. I have no idea were to get buttshots in Atlanta!

nia62
02-27-2007, 12:01 PM
You can make your booty pop and clap without having a huge ass, although it certainly looks impressive with a bigger butt. Those butt tricks are orginated in the muscles, with joints being adjusted strategically for effect. I don't know why I'm piping in, except that getting shots of implants isn't going to help you with these tricks.

If your booty isn't large enough for your taste, and you don't want to do the excercise or get the implants, perhaps you are not meant to be a "booty-clapping" type of stripper and should look into another club or another line of work. Perhaps you can get a nice civil servant job with the government.

Ok, i have all my tricks goin very well. That wasn't the point. You misunderstood and i'm not goin to waste my time on that ignorance. If i was marketing anything i wouldn't be asking any questions... Anyway, for those of you who have any information thats helpful or even experiences, let me know. I am fully aware of risks with everything i do and things OTHER people. Crap we do every day is dangerous to our body. But i'm not gonna waste my time tellin people not to smoke cause it can affect lungs, not to tan cause it is damaging to their health, or not to do drugs cause that is damaging to their health. I came on here for helpful info and that can be positive or negative feedback. I don't have to be called dumb for inquiring about a procedure. Thats just plain childish. I'm not gonna go on anybody else's thread and bombard it with "you're dumb if you do this" and "you're dumb if you do that". Please. ::)

Sirona
02-27-2007, 01:28 PM
Ok, i have all my tricks goin very well. That wasn't the point. You misunderstood and i'm not goin to waste my time on that ignorance. If i was marketing anything i wouldn't be asking any questions... Anyway, for those of you who have any information thats helpful or even experiences, let me know. I am fully aware of risks with everything i do and things OTHER people. Crap we do every day is dangerous to our body. But i'm not gonna waste my time tellin people not to smoke cause it can affect lungs, not to tan cause it is damaging to their health, or not to do drugs cause that is damaging to their health. I came on here for helpful info and that can be positive or negative feedback. I don't have to be called dumb for inquiring about a procedure. Thats just plain childish. I'm not gonna go on anybody else's thread and bombard it with "you're dumb if you do this" and "you're dumb if you do that". Please. ::)

No one ever said you were dumb for asking about it.

You asked for info, you got it. The fact that no one here is posting anything positive isn't some grand conspiracy against anyone wanting to augment thier backside. The fact is the only person on this board to ever openly admit to having it done and discuss it recommended AGAINST it. In fact here are some of the things she said:

"...a few years ago I had injections. I don't recommend it because it is a TOTAL PAIN IN THE A*S! I don't care what you use, how you did it, or who did it--your body WILL deal w/something foreign. The person doing the procedure will tell you how it stays- don't buy it, our genetics decide this--not the doctor. Think of the icky hard boob jobs ...Sitting down - ouch. (not) Sleeping a full night--waking up 2 change positions...This is not just from my experience I have friends that have done it as well."

But hey, it's just we're all "against" it.



I think what many of you are failing to realize is that for black stripper in black clubs, the ass is all that matters. But tricks with a little ass will not get you money. It's not all about hustle or outfits or seductiveness. It's about ass plain and simple.

And I guess I'm done posting in this thread because I am not posting any relevent info either. I have no idea were to get buttshots in Atlanta!

I can't speak for anything else but I completely understand. I get that having a big ass is a major draw. I get that someone might want to augment thier ass just like someone might want to augment thier tits.

What I don't get is why they wouldn't go to the best possible person for the best possible procedure/outcome instead of someone who has no record as for results and would let them inject an unknown substance into thier body.

It makes NO sense.

I mean how much money are you gonna make if it migrates? If it becomes infected and the tissue dies and has to be debrided? If it comes out uneven?
If they die?

brazilian
02-27-2007, 01:40 PM
You know, this posse promoting backalley booty injections have folllowed the same pattern on PSJ, MMH, beautysurge.com, and now SW.

One new poster shows up with questions about the "hydrogel lady" or "pmma lady". Then another new helpful poster follows immediately, magically, with a wealth of information. Coincidence? I don't think so. This is a marketing ploy designed to build interest in captive audience, and those involved get referral fees from the person who administers the injections.

This individual is showing her lack of medical qualifications by injecting amounts as large as 500 cc in a single session. Even in Bioplastia clinics in Brazil, practitioners limit the amount to 150 cc per cheek, then repeat a maximum of three times spaced in 6 week intervals until the final result is achieved. If the product is "gushing out", as was reported in one of the MMH links, there's something terribly wrong.

It's also interesting to note that "Amazing Gel", a hydrogel product produced and made in China, was recalled from the market in 2006, after an enormous amount of complications and adverse reactions in patients. You can read about that here:

http://www.physorg.com/news68374349.html

Legal clinics in Brazil won't do this injections. I am from Brazil and people are having lots of problems because they are injecting by people that are not doctors not only for the buttocks but breasts and thighs.
This is very dangerous. I don't have a butt either and I am considering butt implants since I don't have enough fat (5'1-95lbs). Injectable silicone is a big no-no!

TheSexKitten
02-27-2007, 01:52 PM
It costs 800 dollars but their problem is that legal and safe fat grafting/injections don't last long enough.

Miami
02-27-2007, 02:06 PM
Oh damn. You caught us. Whatever shall we do now.


Says the person with abysmal grammar, spelling and punctuation skills.


Yes, good and bad info. Except when someone posts negative info or makes an inquiry about something that you don't want to answer you go into a tirade about what the thread is or isn't about.

Incidentally where is it that you explained why seeing some hack is a better option than a real doctor? I still haven't seen anything at all explaining why anyone should go that route although you claim to have covered the topic extensively...


Uh ya. That's a load of crap. Do some topic searches before you run your mouth eh? Anytime someone has posted asking about starving themself or tit pills or anything else along that line the girls respond the same way. If it sounds to good to be true it is or they point out something is harmful and stupid to do.


Ya. Once again, we'd post RELEVANT info. That's good AND bad.


How is it we don't understand? We aren't putting down the procedure. We aren't disrespecting anyone who wants it done. We ARE saying if you go to some unlicensed person and let them inject you with god knows fucking what you're not real good at making good decisions about your health and welfare.


See here's the thing. Anyone knows when they have cosmetic procedures done they run the risk of complications. However they're smart enough to take the proper steps to do what they can to minimize those risks. They aren't going to go have it done by some person with no valid medical license operation outside a medical facility in a non-sterile under equipped location.



Uhhhhh actually grafting and implants were given as the proper alternatives for butt augmentation. In addition exercises that can help you increase your ass size are given. WTF is wrong with that!??! I mean really? WTF?

AND NO ONE CARES IF YOU GET INJECTIONS.
Did you get it this time? I put it all in caps so maybe you won't miss it this time around.

We're against illegal non-sterile performed by some scumbag out to make a buck injecting you with sink caulk bullshit. Get it?

In closing, do what you want. As far as i'm concerned if you care so little for yourself and your health, have a great time. Get all maimed/disfigured/dead. Knock yourself out!

Just don't promote it to other people as a viable option. It's a fucked up thing to do.


Yeah...yeah...yeah....I think we're all big girls here and we're going to do as we please. No matter how stupid or unsafe it seems to some, it's going to be done. That's why I feel it's pointless to try to tell people they are stupid, foolish, irresponsible etc. for being interested

All we can do is post the info we have...which was going pretty well until people who probably never really looked it up and with no personal experiences started throwing around personal opinions that were taken offensively.

It's obvious that we don't have a problem with negative information, we have a problem with negative personal opinions void of any useful information which to add on are offensive and disrespectful....

And I know I'm right when I say you'd post RELEVENT, GOOD, AND bad information when it came to a procedure that interested you and 95% of the other females on this forum....

No you don't understand what it is to want a big butt...and you probably have no idea what we mean by big

and shit...I'm ALSO AGAINST NON-STERILE SHIT USED BY A SCUMBAG ... but I sure don't give a damn if it's legal or not as long as I'm more than likely to make it out okay(respected it or not I really don't care )...but then again I have no problem with weed and wouldn't tell someone not to spoke it

all in all...I can't really give all the answers because I've only met one person who got them and I've never had them done...That is why I haven't recommended them or said that they are safer then implants....

The girl wanted to know about the shots they do in atlanta...not where to get shots in atlanta....and I hope she was a able to weed out the information we've given her

Nobody was encouraging anything ... until you began to encourage people not to do it.......;D

Miami
02-27-2007, 02:17 PM
Legal clinics in Brazil won't do this injections. I am from Brazil and people are having lots of problems because they are injecting by people that are not doctors not only for the buttocks but breasts and thighs.
This is very dangerous. I don't have a butt either and I am considering butt implants since I don't have enough fat (5'1-95lbs). Injectable silicone is a big no-no!


yup...silicone is a big no no

this is what can happen....

http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/viewAlbum.php?albumid=1559

Sirona
02-27-2007, 02:21 PM
That's why I feel it's pointless to try to tell people they are stupid, foolish, irresponsible etc. for being interested

Once again...no one said anyone was dumb for being interested. It was said that it was considered stupid behavior to knowingly put yourself in a situation where the odds are hugely stacked against you when you could have it done in a better environment by an actual doctor. Maybe you ought to take your own advice about reading comprehension.


No you don't understand what it is to want a big butt...and you probably have no idea what we mean by big

I don't? And why is that? Please explain, i'm dying to know why I don't understand.


and shit...I'm ALSO AGAINST NON-STERILE SHIT USED BY A SCUMBAG ...

Do you honestly not have a grasp of the definition of sterile because if it is done outside of a medical setting there is no possible way for it to be sterile. None.

PleasureVictim
02-27-2007, 02:58 PM
I think what many of you are failing to realize is that for black stripper in black clubs, the ass is all that matters. But tricks with a little ass will not get you money. It's not all about hustle or outfits or seductiveness. It's about ass plain and simple.

And I guess I'm done posting in this thread because I am not posting any relevent info either. I have no idea were to get buttshots in Atlanta!

Woo Hoo! Ain't that the truth. Moneymakers #1 and #2 at my old club have the biggest booties in the club. They'll make 500/600/700 a night without putting in too much effort. The rest of us have to work for our cash!

Nia, I asked around for you...but no one is giving any solid answer. Like I wrote before you basically have to be 'in the know'. Whichever procedure you go with if you decide to get it- good luck.:)

NinaDaisy
02-27-2007, 06:16 PM
I'm pretty sure Miami and Nia62 are the same sketchy trolls from makemeheal.

You will no longer SPAM this forum or be rude to members here. This thread is now locked.