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Djoser
03-04-2007, 04:15 PM
It is way beyond time for clubs to start implementing better hiring standards. As a DJ, a great deal of my effort, in the past, was spent trying to balance out the effect the less desirable and less talented dancers will invariably have on the stage show. Then there are the innumerable problems brought on by the mentally defective types who cause scenes and fights in the dressing room or even out on the floor. It would be much easier to run a great show with less dancers of greater appeal, something that is sadly lost on most managers, it seems.

Polish is a good thing. Arrogance is not. If there is one thing I cannot stand and will not tolerate in a dancer, it is the attitude that if a bunch of customers will line up to kiss her ass, I ought to follow suite. No fucking way, lol...

But the OP did not strike me as being arrogant, rather she seems extremely confident, and knows exactly why. This is might be the most useful attribute to have, in order to prosper in this business. Actually, a truly polished dancer will not waste time or emotional energy being arrogant--all it does is piss people off, or fool the dumb ones (customers, other dancers, DJs, managers, whoever).

Alaska
03-05-2007, 01:18 AM
I Actually, a truly polished dancer will not waste time or emotional energy being arrogant--


Yup...

AlexxaHex
03-05-2007, 05:52 AM
For some reason (like a lot of other newbies seem to), I thought that strip clubs were more glamorous than they really are. I remember being really nervous at my first job dancing and then realizing, "Hey I'm not on meth or continuously drunk; I'm intelligent and I have good business ethics. I have the upper hand here.". In that way, I will say that my crazy-haired tattooed ass is more polished than TanBlondeBarbieBAwhatserface with the coke straw hanging out of her twat on stage.

Such an alarmingly huge and disgusting percentage of dancers have some kind of drama which is counterproductive to how the clubs work as a whole. Bad management is condoning this by hiring and keeping dysfunctional girls among us truly hard workers. Whether they are rude, unethical, thieving, drugged out, violent, immature or certifiably insane, they chase customers away and cast the few good dancers in a bad light by association. I agree that there are far too many of them. Clubs need to stop this!! And this is not at all an elitist way of thinking. If that's the case, then we need to be fair and hire Crackhead Joe who screams religious sermons in front of 7-11 to work in a nursery school.

ViolaStrings
03-05-2007, 12:36 PM
TanBlondeBarbieBA

Other than the coke reference, this is pretty much me. Don't hate on the fembots. It's just the kind of marketing that works for me.

ViolaStrings
03-05-2007, 12:38 PM
But the OP did not strike me as being arrogant, rather she seems extremely confident, and knows exactly why. This is might be the most useful attribute to have, in order to prosper in this business. Actually, a truly polished dancer will not waste time or emotional energy being arrogant--all it does is piss people off, or fool the dumb ones (customers, other dancers, DJs, managers, whoever).

Thanks. I was a geek in school and was great at figuring out how to be #1 at anything. I've transferred this into dancing. It works! You have to know your market (the guys) and your product (you) and promote non-stop. So many girls show up with the attitude that they're entitled to cash and adoration simply because they get naked for money.

idreamofaislin
03-05-2007, 11:19 PM
Other than the coke reference, this is pretty much me. Don't hate on the fembots. It's just the kind of marketing that works for me.

I think she was just saying that, although she appears less marketable on the surface, she's a better worker than many stereotypically marketable girls. I don't think it was a jab to ALL fembots. Just the druggie ones.

sunnie
03-06-2007, 01:20 AM
As a DJ, a great deal of my effort, in the past, was spent trying to balance out the effect the less desirable and less talented dancers will invariably have on the stage show. Then there are the innumerable problems brought on by the mentally defective types who cause scenes and fights in the dressing room or even out on the floor. It would be much easier to run a great show with less dancers of greater appeal, something that is sadly lost on most managers, it seems.

Polish is a good thing. Arrogance is not. If there is one thing I cannot stand and will not tolerate in a dancer, it is the attitude that if a bunch of customers will line up to kiss her ass. Actually, a truly polished dancer will not waste time or emotional energy being arrogant--all it does is piss people off, or fool the dumb ones (customers, other dancers, DJs, managers, whoever).

I agree so much with you.

You know, most dancers have enough complexes about their weight/breast size, etc. And we all know perfect 10 does not necessarily equate with top earner. And yes, girls should be toned, proportionate...but I don't think I should lose my job over 5 lbs...or a b-cup.

The point I am trying to make is we do not all have to have the same look.

But this is not really what I wanted to comment on. About being ruthless...yes it is ok up to a point...that point is when two girls are pinning your arms down while a third is kicking your ass. You gotta know where to draw the line.

For me, a few hundred dollars may come and go, but the feeling of dread from going to work because the other dancers hate me or want to jump me lasts a lot longer. So I stay off other girls' toes. But the trouble makers make life hell for the pain in the ass dancers who are toe steppers and they don't last long at the club.

redhothoney
03-06-2007, 02:34 AM
nothing is more annoying than hearing sob stories in the dressing room at the end of the night over half the night the same girls have been moping in the dressing room the whole night mean mugging busy girls that are only stopping in to do their makeup.

AlexxaHex
03-06-2007, 03:42 AM
Other than the coke reference, this is pretty much me. Don't hate on the fembots. It's just the kind of marketing that works for me.

I'm not hatin'. At ALL.
Just saying that this look is the antithesis of me...and the usual of what most straight, middle class American men prefer. My point is that a lot of these girls are not what they seem.

Sunshine73
03-06-2007, 03:54 AM
I asked for it at the end of the night and he gave it to me.

Would you mind clarifying HOW you asked him to give you that much money? I would love to learn how to do that!!! :)

ExoticEngineer
03-06-2007, 07:59 AM
One Big Mac, one large fry, and one Booty Shake. That'll be $800! ;D Would you like to super size that?

ViolaStrings
03-06-2007, 09:32 AM
I'm not hatin'. At ALL.
Just saying that this look is the antithesis of me...and the usual of what most straight, middle class American men prefer. My point is that a lot of these girls are not what they seem.

I'm not naturally this tan. I'm not naturally a blonde. My boobs were definitely not this big from the factory. And I'm not as stupid as I look and act at work. I am definitely NOT what I seem.

The reason? Exactly what you stated - it's what the largest possible audience (at the strip club) wants so I give it to them and take their money. It's just clever packaging. I'm a lap dance juggernaut. They put in tits and took out my heart ;) There's way more here than what meets the eye.

ViolaStrings
03-06-2007, 09:34 AM
Would you mind clarifying HOW you asked him to give you that much money? I would love to learn how to do that!!! :)

I sat with him all night, and when he asked me what I wanted at the end of the night I said "$1000!" and he said "$600" and I was like "Alright, $800" He was spending money like he had something to prove.

LatinaRose
03-06-2007, 10:38 AM
I don't think you did anything wrong either. You were just doing your job, if he wanted to give that girl money, he would have.

Emily
03-06-2007, 10:58 AM
I'm not naturally this tan. I'm not naturally a blonde. My boobs were definitely not this big from the factory. And I'm not as stupid as I look and act at work. I am definitely NOT what I seem.

The reason? Exactly what you stated - it's what the largest possible audience (at the strip club) wants so I give it to them and take their money. It's just clever packaging. I'm a lap dance juggernaut. They put in tits and took out my heart ;) There's way more here than what meets the eye.

Pretty much described me to a "T". It's all marketing based on what I saw worked, but it doesn't change who I am.

Just like you can't judge the tattooed, pierced goth girl by how she looks, you can't judge TanBlondeBarbieBAwhatserface by how she looks. As a TanBlondeBarbieBAwhatserface, I know people assume I have no depth, which is fine in a SC. Preferable, actually.

And to answer the original question. No. Hell no. I was flattered last night when I read a comment on SCL that was obviously written by a dancer about how I use the VIP to solicit OTC business. It's not true, but jsut the whole, "what is she doing that I'm not doing?" thing gets me excited.

mollyzmoon
03-06-2007, 04:08 PM
Just on the topic of letting all sorts of unscheduled riff-raff in the club, versus a club with 'standards' that caps the number of dancers on shift: I worked at the latter kind of club for four months, and the money was only so-so. Some nights it was fantastic, other nights really terrible. No consistency. And it's a nice club. The best anywhere around here (cleanliness, lighting, sound system, gorgeous women...). The management is strict about number of girls per shift, etc. But the money was just not that great to me...

So I started again at another place where the standards are (apparently) more slack, and you can work whenever you want (no scheduling at all). And I make more than I did at the other place. There are more customers. The rules of contact are stricter than the pretty place (which was unexpected). Even though it could theoretically be flooded with girls, it doesn't seem to get that way. I don't know if that is symptomatic of a free market, but whatever...The fact is, this place is a free for all, and the girls are quite friendly to one another. It could be an isolated example...I don't know much about business, but I just stay where I make more money. Why did men stop going to the ostensibly better club? Who knows. It's not for want of extras or pretty, polished dancers. The mysteries I suppose.

Sunshine73
03-07-2007, 01:57 AM
I sat with him all night, and when he asked me what I wanted at the end of the night I said "$1000!" and he said "$600" and I was like "Alright, $800" He was spending money like he had something to prove.

Good girl!