View Full Version : Clenbuterol - progress and side effects
cameronfl
03-01-2007, 06:16 PM
I took ephedra for years before they banned it..in fairly high doses(the stuff I took was made my VPX sports and had over 300mgs of ephedra in it)I had great results from it and would still be taknig it if I could find it. The little bit of ephedra I have seen available in places(mostly from other countries)isnt more than 25 mgs. Bummer
If you do take it..be sure to cycle on and off it. I took it 3 weeks on, 2 weeks off. People tend to not do that because they are seeing results and want to keep losing fast. THATS when it can get dangerous. Your system NEEDS that break.
believe me..if I could find my precious Clenbutrx I'd take it again in a heartbeat. I've put on 15 pounds sine I stopped taking it that I cant get rid of. Nothing else works anymore.....so beware that you could screw up your metabolism taking this. Mine is pretty well fucked.
NinaDaisy
03-01-2007, 06:52 PM
believe me..if I could find my precious Clenbutrx I'd take it again in a heartbeat. I've put on 15 pounds sine I stopped taking it that I cant get rid of. Nothing else works anymore.....so beware that you could screw up your metabolism taking this. Mine is pretty well fucked.
That's something else about Clen that concerns me. You really can't keep taking it all the time or forever, but from what I've been told when you do stop taking it you gain more weight to weigh more than you did before you started taking it!
If there's a "safer" way of taking it and it works, that's definitely a good thing. My only concern is that a Clen user can get so hooked on the fast results that even if she notices something is a little "off" with her health that might result in a dangerous or deadly side effect, she would just ignore it or postpone treatment until it was too late.
That's where my "is it worth it?" comments come from.
On a personal note, I've lost almost 20 lbs. since my breakup months ago (I'm guessing because I almost never weigh myself) and so many people have told me how "great" I look. :O I'm trying to gain some of that weight back, but haven't been doing it as quickly as I could because I have to admit that as fucked up as it sounds it's good to hear the compliments on my appearance, even though I know that eating so little (and being sedentary, to boot) just hasn't been not good for me.
For some women, they hear they look great after losing a little weight and rationalize "I guess I'll look even better if I lose another 5 (or 10, 20, etc...)".
It absolutely is your body and you can do with it as you choose, just take care of it. It's the only one you've got and it needs to last you the rest of your life. After that it's all just dust or worm food. ;)
cameronfl
03-01-2007, 07:05 PM
That's something else about Clen that concerns me. You really can't keep taking it all the time or forever, but from what I've been told when you do stop taking it you gain more weight to weigh more than you did before you started taking it!
If there's a "safer" way of taking it and it works, that's definitely a good thing. My only concern is that a Clen user can get so hooked on the fast results that even if she notices something is a little "off" with her health that might result in a dangerous or deadly side effect, she would just ignore it or postpone treatment until it was too late.
Yeah..that is a problem. Your metabolism gets used to the "boost" and its difficult without it. I dont eat much, try to eat healthy(most of the time!) and work out like crazy and I have a VERY hard time losing weight. I think my metabolism is really off from so many years of diet pills and eating disorders(I was borderline ana/mia for years...still struggle from time to time)
Thats why I would take it again...I'm already screwed so anything that gives my metabolism a boost(well...almost anything) I'll take the help. I dont know if i would recommend it to anyone to start though. I'd hate to see someone end up like me with 20 pounds of fat that they cant get rid of to save their life.
Ugh...I feel so fat today...:'(
Darcy,
I dont know where you dance, but those guys are assholes. You are a beautiful girl. Holy shit, you are 5'9 and 138? Thats NOTHING.
Just be careful ok? (I had my share of "wanting to take Clen" but decided against it as I know someone who died) Dont take more than you should
pinupgurl2k6
03-01-2007, 08:10 PM
Pinupgurl,
I thought it was because 11 people (or some small number) of people died taking ephedra incorrectly. They make c.meth out of ephedra? or ephedrine? I take ephedra (the herb). Ephedrine is supposed to be synthetic.
Sorry for bogartting the thread!
I'm sure the 11 people dying didn't help but you even have to sign a sheet
to buy the ephedra, the natural ephedrine which makes me uncomfortable.
I just work out 3x a week and watch what I eat and make sure to
portion control. I don't need 3 pbj sandwiches.
Darcy Foxx
03-02-2007, 12:09 AM
So after 4 days on Clen I've definitely noticed a small change. My lovehandles seem a lot firmer and my stomach is flatter. I haven't taken it today and won't be taking it again til Monday, but that's just because this weekend at work is our busiest weekend of the year due to a huge car racing event on in our town, so it's the one week of the year that I let myself use speed at work so I can cash in on it as much as possible. And I really don't think that Clen and speed would be a very safe combination, hah.
Lola Lee
03-02-2007, 08:32 AM
Darcy, are you suffering from dry mouth on Clen? Needing to drink tons of water? Just curious about that side effect and the physical changes you have noticed so rapidly.
But yeah, please no speed and clen combo...
cameronfl
03-02-2007, 09:01 AM
Where did you get it?
Darcy Foxx
03-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Darcy, are you suffering from dry mouth on Clen? Needing to drink tons of water?
Not really, no. I mean, I have been drinking a lot of water but it's not from dry mouth, it's just that my body temp is so high that I think it's probably a good idea to keep myself hydrated.
Tonight at work one of the girls whom I hadn't worked with since I started on Clen said "Holy shit! How fucking flat is your stomach!" when she saw me, and commented on how much weight I've lost. Another girl said to me tonight, "You're looking really slim tonight", and she doesn't even know I'm on Clen. So yea, I guess it's definitely working. And I've only taken it for 5 days.
Still had some customers yelling "She's got a fat ass!" at me when I was on stage tonight tho, so I guess it hasn't worked enough.
Didn't take my Clen today like I said, as I would not be silly enough to mix it with speed.
Darcy Foxx
03-02-2007, 12:44 PM
Another interesting thing to note, is that so far, I haven't lost any weight from my boobs. That's usually the first place it goes, but with Clen I've only lost it from my hips and stomach.
Also, according to the scales, I haven't lost any weight at all. I'm not sure if that's because Clen has some kind of effect on muscle mass? Looking at me, I'm noticeably thinner, but there's not even a pound of difference on the scales.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-02-2007, 12:52 PM
I would really love to try this, what I found was and this is from Sweeden I think. But I've never bought any drugs online, not even vitamins, so I'm concerned about the quality. However, I think I'm willing to give it a shot. You said you got yours in powder form at the vet, right? I figure I'll do better with pills than measuring out a powder. Let me know if anyone's got a better deal than the one I posted!! ;D
Darcy Foxx
03-02-2007, 12:59 PM
I couldn't get the pills. Clenbuterol isn't an illegal substance in Australia, it's just a controlled substance, which means I can't get into any trouble for possessing it, but it's damn hard to get your hands on it. It's illegal to import it into Aus without permission, so I was unable to buy anything online. If you're gonna buy it online, make sure you're not going to get in any trouble by having it shipped to you.
It's hard to know about the quality of products from drug websites...
And yeah, mine is a powder called Ventipulmin which is what vets give to horses.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-02-2007, 01:08 PM
hmmm, I just don't really know how to research it. Initially I googled "clenbuterol" and this site is what I found. There are only two reviews on the site, one good and one bad, and a lot of customers who haven't reviewed anything ... and where exactly would I find the laws about getting drugs shipped to me? .. maybe if I get enough info, I'll just become a columbian drug lord, lol...
Darcy Foxx
03-02-2007, 01:12 PM
Not sure if that helps? By the looks of it, it's not legal to import it.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-02-2007, 01:16 PM
damn! .. i hate that this has to be so damn difficult.... like now, i can get ephedrine at local convenience stores, but i'm VERY limited in the amount i can buy at any given time, and per month (i have to sign this stupid book for records) ... well i guess there's a black market for everything, huh??
Silky
03-03-2007, 11:02 AM
Hey Darcy, I am sure you already know, and you want to get thinner all around for your own personal confidence, but just incase you didnt...the term having a " fat ass" is not an insult. I know in the U.S., guys use it to describe a nice ass with a little something to it. Yea, not the best way to give a compliment but what can ya do. ...By your looks I do not see how it possibly can be an insult.
I dont even know if you do, i just saw the pictures on your post, but I wish i had a little something extra to my butt!
Good luck
mollyzmoon
03-03-2007, 11:21 AM
Ventipulmin?! I used to give that stuff to horses all the time (in a syrup...I remember pumping it into grain). Shit. Now I want to go back to farm work and score some awsome diet drugs. I wish there were a way I could convince a vet that my horse's cough requires something stronger than steamed hay...hummm. So close, but so far. I'd be so bad to fraud my vet, but I could like, share it with my horse. He *does* have a chronic cough, and he is a fatty.
How did you get it from the vet, Darcy? Did you get a script for an animal, or just sneaky ways?
Darcy Foxx
03-03-2007, 12:00 PM
A friend of a friend of a friend knows someone who is a vet and managed to get it for me. It's popular in the body building scene and the people I know are all into that so yeah. But it took me weeks and weeks to find it.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-06-2007, 04:18 PM
no updates in a few days .. how's the progress??? :)
scorpio
03-06-2007, 08:07 PM
Clen is a steroid. Not only do you have to be extremly careful with it, but it can induce some of the nasty side effects in women that you all read about. Proceed with caution. Do not over do it.
mermaidnz
03-06-2007, 08:29 PM
cant ba assed readind the whole thread, bbtw, omfg. did you seriously say in the first post you brought it from the VET!?! as in, for animals?
babe, thats not cool.... i dont see how it can be safe for human comsumption. please be careful- and fyi, you not freaking fat!!!! :)
Darcy Foxx
03-06-2007, 08:33 PM
no updates in a few days .. how's the progress??? :)
I've stopped posting updates since this thread totally derailed from "information about Clen" to "lecture Darcy about her decision and tell her how fat she isn't", so if anyone wants any info on Clen or my progress, feel free to PM me.
VaVaVoom
03-06-2007, 08:40 PM
I took ephedra for years before they banned it..in fairly high doses(the stuff I took was made my VPX sports and had over 300mgs of ephedra in it)I had great results from it and would still be taknig it if I could find it. The little bit of ephedra I have seen available in places(mostly from other countries)isnt more than 25 mgs. Bummer
If you do take it..be sure to cycle on and off it. I took it 3 weeks on, 2 weeks off. People tend to not do that because they are seeing results and want to keep losing fast. THATS when it can get dangerous. Your system NEEDS that break.
believe me..if I could find my precious Clenbutrx I'd take it again in a heartbeat. I've put on 15 pounds sine I stopped taking it that I cant get rid of. Nothing else works anymore.....so beware that you could screw up your metabolism taking this. Mine is pretty well fucked.
i just ordered a bunch of the brand of ephedra i used when the FDA ban was first lifted a few years ago. i had great success with it but i didnt know to cycle it at the time so i had some unpleasant temporary side effects after a while.
i plan to only take them monday-friday for 3 weeks on and 2 weeks off. the first week im only going to take 1 pill and add a pill a week to work up to the 3 pill maximum. should i continue this method of adding 1 pill a week for every cycle I do? do you think that would be a good idea?
TigersMilk
03-06-2007, 08:42 PM
^^depends on what the dosage of ephedra is and how you react to the dosage. They say you shouldn't take more than 100mg of ephedra a day or thats at least what my bottle says.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-06-2007, 09:49 PM
I've stopped posting updates since this thread totally derailed from "information about Clen" to "lecture Darcy about her decision and tell her how fat she isn't", so if anyone wants any info on Clen or my progress, feel free to PM me.
Alright, I can dig it .. I'm just always curious to find out about new stuff since my ephedrine is so freaking "regulated" these days. :-\
VaVaVoom
03-06-2007, 09:52 PM
^^depends on what the dosage of ephedra is and how you react to the dosage. They say you shouldn't take more than 100mg of ephedra a day or thats at least what my bottle says.
the website says each capsule has 10 mg of ephedrine alkaloids.
so taking up to 30 mg a day shouldnt be too bad.
IvytheStripper
03-06-2007, 10:08 PM
Strength/Weight training is not a way to lose weight. It's a way to gain muscle, which may actually cause you to gain weight because muscle weighs more than fat. The combination of strength training and cardio may help you become leaner though not neccessarily lighter. The female body is designed to store fat. That weight around the hips, abdomen and thighs is there as an energy reserve for pregnancy. The breasts are more likely to shrink before the gut area.
Don't take any shit from anyone, especially customers. If they have even an ounce out of place, then they have no room to talk and I have told customers so. You're there to entertain, not to be a whipping post. As for all of the girls at work saying that you're just fine, believe them. The grass is always greener. While you're comparing your figure with theirs, odds are they're comparing themselves with you. For every body type there's a zillion and nine guys who'll think it's hot. The male animal is programmed to like looking at naked females. The plain and simple truth is that men just don't scrutinise women the way women scrutinise themselves and those that do, bag them because they're freaks.
Darling
03-06-2007, 10:43 PM
This is one of the first posts that I am really pissed off about! Is it not just me, but doesn't anyone think that it is just plain retarded to fuck with you body like this!?
Darcy, I have to really wonder about you. Throughout all of your posts, and the pics that I've seen of you, I have always thought that you are beautiful and have respected your opinions. As of now, I have little to no faith.
I think that everyone on here who gets that upset by a few customer comments is ridiculous. Especially at your weight. It's just bullshit to CARE that much about what other people think. Are these the people that will be with you (any of you that take these things) when your heart murmurs and your in a hospital bed?!
Even though I have some weight to loose, I still think that I am beautiful. I weigh 165 pounds and am just 1/2 inch more than you. I still make great money, and am costantly being told that a man (custies) would rather have a woman like myself than the stick figures. While not every man loves the type of figure that I have, there are enough that I make good money. And I feel good about myself.
Seriously! This is like the girl that said taking Meth was a good idea for weight loss (post long ago)! I'm sorry that this may sound harsh, but I am pretty riled up. Maybe instead of weight loss, one should try to improve their personality and intellectual pursuits. That can make you money as well, but noone seems to focus much energy on that compared to weight loss.
AHHHAAhhahha ahhahhahah! I am screaming to myself!
Lola Lee
03-07-2007, 08:51 AM
Seriously! This is like the girl that said taking Meth was a good idea for weight loss (post long ago)! I'm sorry that this may sound harsh, but I am pretty riled up. Maybe instead of weight loss, one should try to improve their personality and intellectual pursuits. That can make you money as well, but noone seems to focus much energy on that compared to weight loss.
You can't compare meth and clenbuterol.
As Darcy said several posts back, the intention of this thread has completely derailed. If you want to bash the experience and share your feelings about her intellect and emotional state please PM her.
Clenbuterol has been discussed many times on this board and it *WOULD* have been nice to have a point of reference for those that are curious.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-07-2007, 10:19 PM
...Clenbuterol has been discussed many times on this board and it *WOULD* have been nice to have a point of reference for those that are curious.
Thanks Lola Lee .. very good point!!
britt244
03-07-2007, 10:24 PM
darling.. darcy is beautiful. but she's also said that she photoshops her pictures that she posts on here. regardless of whether you or anyone else feels she needs to lose weight, what matters is what *she* thinks. everyone on this website does things that someone else will disagree with, but we're here to discuss those things and give the information out to others who may be interested. agree or disagree, it is completely unfair to yell at her like that. if you cant give your opinion in a calm way, maybe you should keep it to yourself.
Darling
03-07-2007, 11:37 PM
To all that it may concern, especially Darcy,
I'm sorry that I got so upset. I didn't mean to yell at her per se, just at the entire idea. Recently I had a friend that used ephedra and just about anything to keep her weight in line. Her lifestyle had some of drugs and alchohol (I don't know if Darcy drinks, but she mentioned speed) and recently this vibrant young woman got into a major major car accident (most likely due to over consumption). Her life will never be the same, as she has stiches from the top of her chest to her abdomen. It puts a lot of things in perspective
I just remember telling her over and over again to stop with the things that are fucking with her body. Beauty is not worth it. I think that when I hear about things like this, the mother in me kicks in (i don't have children). Sometimes I get sick of the way people sugarcoat things around here. Maybe I believe in a little tough love.
Everyone has issues with their bodies, but there comes a point where these thoughts become obcessive and unhealthy. That is when a maybe the help we really need is from someone who is an authority on the matter, whether it be a nutritionlist or a psychotherapist.
Darcy, once again, I am sorry and I wish you all of the best. You are beautiful! Jesus, you make your living off of it, aside from personality etc.! Just remember that.
modlgrl
03-28-2007, 09:49 PM
Darcy-
How is the clen working put? Pleeeease update.
Darcy Foxx
03-28-2007, 11:38 PM
You know what? Don't take it. I can say with complete honesty that I will not take it again. I won't elaborate, but it's dangerous and it's too easy to push it too far.
modlgrl
03-28-2007, 11:45 PM
Did u lose weight though?
Darcy Foxx
03-28-2007, 11:47 PM
Only when I worked out on it. It accelerated my weight loss when I was doing 2 hours of cardio a day, but if I wasn't working out then it really just maintained my weight rather than dropped any.
modlgrl
03-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Ok, thanks. I thought it was supposed to make u quickly lose weight regardless of working out. I 2 am looking 4 something that works.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-28-2007, 11:51 PM
...I 2 am looking 4 something that works.
aren't we all, lol
Darcy Foxx
03-28-2007, 11:56 PM
NOTHING will make you lose weight without working out (apart from outright starvation). You might lose a little bit of weight on Clen if you don't work out, but you're not going to get extreme results. If you're prepared to put in the time at the gym and think you can handle the Clen side effects and if you think you can use it responsibly and not try to take too much, then it'll work. But there's a fine line and it's not a miracle drug.
Lola Lee
03-29-2007, 01:15 AM
^^^ I have to say...this is why this thread has been important. Thank you Darcy for your honesty despite the retribution from some of us.
Darcy Foxx
03-29-2007, 02:36 AM
Yeah, and at least now there's someone on here who has had experience with Clen who can give a very informed perspective on it for anyone who is thinking of taking it in the future. Personally, I have learned my lesson and will never take it again, and I'd never seriously tell anyone not to take it because I know that they'll probably not listen to me (just like I did to everyone else), but at least now there's someone on here who REALLY knows about it.
GoldCoastGirl
03-30-2007, 12:14 AM
Go Darcy! ;D See everyone... just let her live her life. She (just like me) needs to learn her life lessons in her own time and way ;D
Darcy Foxx
03-30-2007, 12:54 AM
Yep. It took a scare to make me see how dangerous and obssesive my behaviours had become, but I'm fine, and I think I'm done with diet drugs.
Meghan
03-30-2007, 05:35 AM
Sorry! Have to step in. Diet is the way to lose weight without exercise.. exercise is what gives shape to your body. The fastest way to lose fat is to eat very low cal, very low fat and very low carb. Unless you're obese it's not a way to eat long term (if you're obese you can last on this diet for quite a while) but it flat out works. The higher amounts of protein prevent muscle loss, or most of it anyway.. and the lack of anything else means your body has no choice except to burn it's own fat reserves. And no, it is not a way of eating for life...and no I'm not telling anyone to do it.
Off the soapbox... Darcy thanks for posting your experiment. I always think it is great when people post what they have personally gone through with products etc etc so that others can learn.
There was quite a few people interested in Clenbuterol in my 'Xenical' thread, so I thought I'd start a new thread all about it. I've just started taking it, I'm on my third day. I was unable to get tablets, I could only get stuff straight from the vet, in a granule/powder form, called Ventipulmin. I mix a teaspoon in with orange juice and drink it, once a day.
Anyway, I'm in day three. So far the side effects I've had are nausea, extremely high-energy, shaking, laughing randomly at nothing, headaches, slight anxiety, and high body temperature (due to Clen raising your core temperature to burn fat). Did a kickass workout at the gym yesterday, I was so energetic and pumped... I sweat a lot more than I usually do though, so had to drink LOTS of water. The shaking isn't too bad, and the nausea only happens in the 5 mins after I drink the stuff, because it tastes like crap and the granules don't completely dissolve in the juice so drinking it down isn't exactly pleasant. It completely suppreses my appetite, I haven't felt hungry at all when I've been on it. I've still been eating as normal, though. To be completely honest, it feels a lot like being on meth.
No weight loss yet, but it's only day 3.
Do you know what the actual dose is? What is the dose per teaspoon?
gingerlee
03-30-2007, 11:49 AM
Darcy, I'm proud of you. Knowing that the clen isn't a miracle drug, and honestly telling others that is wonderful, especially since you were working out.
There are no magic pills/drinks/etc. ya'll.
Lola Rose
03-30-2007, 03:41 PM
I'm sorry you had to have a bad scare to figure out this was bad for you. :hug: I'm glad you're okay.
PrettyCurlieQ
03-30-2007, 03:59 PM
Darcy, I'm proud of you. Knowing that the clen isn't a miracle drug, and honestly telling others that is wonderful, especially since you were working out.
There are no magic pills/drinks/etc. ya'll.
WORD.
cinammonkisses
03-30-2007, 05:30 PM
Strength/Weight training is not a way to lose weight. It's a way to gain muscle, which may actually cause you to gain weight because muscle weighs more than fat. The combination of strength training and cardio may help you become leaner though not neccessarily lighter
Strength/weight training can be a way to help you lose weight. You're right, muscle does weigh more than fat BUT the muscles you gain from strength training also helps burn fat while your body is at rest.
The problem is so many girls are focused on what a scale says. Scales do not dictate how "fit" you are. When I was strength training, w/ little cardio my weight dropped a bit BUT my clothes/inches was where I saw the biggest change.
cinammonkisses
03-30-2007, 05:31 PM
Yep. It took a scare to make me see how dangerous and obssesive my behaviours had become, but I'm fine, and I think I'm done with diet drugs.
I'm glad you came to understand just how potentially harmful this drug is Darcy. I'm also glad that you only had to experience a little "scare" before something much more detremental happened to you. I'll keep an eye out on you. I'm very proud of you!