View Full Version : Clenbuterol - progress and side effects
genesia
06-11-2007, 10:23 AM
I was checking this thread out (i know its old) but i have to interject that my personal experience w/clen was NOT favorable. Yes, i lost weight.. but like someone said early in the post.. i gained MORE than i started off with when i came off. SUCKS. Plus, i recently read that it can permanently enlarge the left ventricle. I have done my fair share of a variety of steroids.. and i can offer this alternative: if you can get your hands on ephedrine, do your own ECA stack. Take Ephedrine, Yohimbie, & Caffeine in the morning, then do Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin before you work out. That;s what i started today. It works really well, and you don't gain when you come off. Just don't do it too long at a time (8wks max)
I TOTALLY feel you Darcy.. it took me THIS LONG (since my last post) to get my ass outta bed & stop being depressed..now i got alotta un-doing to do & my weight has been a thorn in my ass for a GOOD MINUTE.. but here we go..Genesia is back in da Game Ladies!!;D
ahmeerah
06-11-2007, 10:28 PM
I just went to the bodybuilding.com and found this regarding taking E/C plus Yohimbine:
ln a study held in 1998, when overweight and obese people were given a combination of Ephedrine, Caffeine and Yohimbe stack, and asked to exercise, the doctors that did the study found that the addition of Yohimbine (10mg/d) increased blood pressure and heart rate while decreasing the heart's efficiency of pumping blood! This increased the load on the heart during work or exercise that could potentially lead to a heart attack or stroke! But Ephedrine (50mg/d) + Caffeine (400mg/d) alone, had no such effect on heart function. So forget any supplement product on the market that has all of them at the same time, and forget any combination like that, for your own good. Reference: "Cardiovascular effects of Ephedrine, Caffeine and Yohimbine measured by thoracic electrical bioimpedance". Clin. Physiol.1998
I like ephedra plus guarana the best.
NinaDaisy
06-11-2007, 10:52 PM
I'm sorry you had to have a bad scare to figure out this was bad for you. :hug: I'm glad you're okay.
Ditto. I really didn't mean to sound judgmental in my early replies, I was just worried because I've heard so many bad things about clen and didn't want you to cause severe irreversible damage.
The most important thing is that you're okay. :)
Darcy Foxx
06-11-2007, 11:04 PM
lol that was all months and months ago.
i'm fine, i just went a little skitzo and took waaay too much clen and worked out waaay too hard and started blacking out while driving home from the gym. it scared the crap outa me at the time.
I was checking this thread out (i know its old) but i have to interject that my personal experience w/clen was NOT favorable. Yes, i lost weight.. but like someone said early in the post.. i gained MORE than i started off with when i came off. SUCKS. Plus, i recently read that it can permanently enlarge the left ventricle. I have done my fair share of a variety of steroids.. and i can offer this alternative: if you can get your hands on ephedrine, do your own ECA stack. Take Ephedrine, Yohimbie, & Caffeine in the morning, then do Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin before you work out. That;s what i started today. It works really well, and you don't gain when you come off. Just don't do it too long at a time (8wks max)
I TOTALLY feel you Darcy.. it took me THIS LONG (since my last post) to get my ass outta bed & stop being depressed..now i got alotta un-doing to do & my weight has been a thorn in my ass for a GOOD MINUTE.. but here we go..Genesia is back in da Game Ladies!!;D
Remember, Clen is not a steroid but a beta agonist. EC works well, better than Clen in the long run, and is safe for most people. Mixing EC and Yombine, can be dangerous and is not generally recommended. Ephedra was banned as a diet supp, but ephedRINE was not, and can be found in any CVS pharmacy. Still very easy to make an effectice EC combo. What steroids did you do? Any long term side effects?
Erika_FL
06-12-2007, 06:15 PM
How much Ephedrine is ok too take? I just ordered some because i need some energy while working out , I feel like I'm gonna fall over and fall asleep in the gym lol so I want to try it but dont want to get all hyper to the point I'm shaking, and dont want to take too little so I dont get more energy. The one I got is 25mg per pill. Thank you.
ahmeerah
06-12-2007, 10:21 PM
Erika
That sounds about right!
flickad
06-12-2007, 10:26 PM
How much Ephedrine is ok too take? I just ordered some because i need some energy while working out , I feel like I'm gonna fall over and fall asleep in the gym lol so I want to try it but dont want to get all hyper to the point I'm shaking, and dont want to take too little so I dont get more energy. The one I got is 25mg per pill. Thank you.
Personally, I wouldn't touch ephedrine with a pole. It's an ingredient in amphetamines, which can cause brain damage, psychosis and heart problems, among other things.
ahmeerah
06-12-2007, 10:29 PM
Actually I don't touch ephedrine either. I take ephedra. Similar but different. Ephedrine made me sick.
IvyLee
06-13-2007, 02:32 AM
I just started Clen. Took it for about 7 days and right now im cycling off, cuz i had some important interviews i didnt want to be all whacked out at. I'm going to follow this pattern starting next week: Example of a Clenbuterol Cycle for a Woman
Week 1: 1,1,2,2,3,3,4
Week 2: 4,4,3,3,2,2,1
Weeks 3-4: ECA stack
If your Clenbuterol is in liquid form, first find out the concetration per ml. Suppose that the liquid is 100mcg/ml, then 1/5 of a ml is 20 mcg = 1 20mcg tab. A syring can be used for accurate dosing. Draw a couple of cc's of liquid into the syring, then two lines = 2 IUs = 1/5 cc = 20 mcg. Squirt the liquid into some juice and drink.
Some side affects I had were accelerated heart rate and shaky hands. I got really hot and thirsty. Result wise I definently sweated out a lot of water and i felt more toned.
I got it in a vial in liquid form from one of my meathead friends. He also gave me a insulin syringe to measure it with and he gave me some potassium tablets too cuz he said clen would take away a lot of electrolites from my body. He takes it himself and orders it off the internet. His advice was to eat simple carbs if i got too jittery.
Workout wise I take a trapeze class once a week and go for a jog when the fancy strikes, which isnt often LOL.
It's not five pounds, it's thirteen. I had my conversions all wrong before... I'm currently 138lb and I want to be 125lb (I'm 5'9"). And yes, I'm willing to risk my health over it. I'm fucking sick of customers calling me a fatty and telling me I have a fat ass and I'm sick of being bigger than all the other girls at work. It's easy for people to bitch and say it's not healthy, but unless you know how it feels to always be known as "the bigger girl" you can't understand why I'm so desperate to do anything to get rid of the weight.
And hey, I used to regularly use Ketamine for recreational purposes, and that's a veterninary anisthetic, so it's not like this is the first time I've injested animal medication.
I feel you girl!! People don't understand what it is like to be called "thick" or have a waitress come get you because her table wants a girl with a big ass!!! I know how you feel, but honestly, i took clen for about a month, and no difference!!!! i lost the most weight cutting out carbs and drinking a shit load, and I mean a shit load of water a day! Thats just my two cents. I would go for phentermine over clen any day of the week!!!
How much Ephedrine is ok too take? I just ordered some because i need some energy while working out , I feel like I'm gonna fall over and fall asleep in the gym lol so I want to try it but dont want to get all hyper to the point I'm shaking, and dont want to take too little so I dont get more energy. The one I got is 25mg per pill. Thank you.
For fat loss, studies used 20mg X 3 and 200mg of caff X 3 (60mg of E total and 600mg of C total per day). For pre workout energy type thing, 25mg is about right.
Darcy Foxx
06-13-2007, 07:13 PM
i took clen for about a month, and no difference!!!!
really?? i had dramatic weight loss from it. when i first started taking it, i lost over 6lbs in the first week. the first few days i didn't notice much difference, then the weight just suddenly started falling off.
i actually started on a 2 week cycle of it again last week (yes, you all can bitch at me all you want, because i just don't learn), but i've found it really attacks my immune system. both times i've started taking it, i've ended up coming down with a really really bad flu/cold just over a week into it. i was only taking it this time for 2 weeks leading up to a competition, but i'm not sure i'll bother now, because i don't want to get sick again and have to pull out. it especially sucks because now i haven't been able to go to the gym all week, as i've been to sick... so i've taken a backwards step.
i think once i'm over this flu i'll just go the no carbs/crazy workouts route for the next week up til the comp.
ahmeerah
06-13-2007, 08:06 PM
If you EC stack, I wouldn't take it any more than twice a day and never after 4 PM unless you want to stay up for 24 hrs. Three times in one day is hell.
For fat loss, studies used 20mg X 3 and 200mg of caff X 3 (60mg of E total and 600mg of C total per day). For pre workout energy type thing, 25mg is about right.
Erika_FL
06-13-2007, 10:31 PM
I didnt get the Ephedrine pills yet but I went to GNC yesterday to get my vitamins and the guy told me to try redline drinks for energy, I had half of the bottle (its 8oz bottles) yesterday afternoon so I can actually have the energy to work and it was great I was chatty all night lol, today i had half in the morning after breakfast , well morning for me is 1pm and the other half about 1 hour later b4 I went to the gym, I think it was too much, it felt great during the cardio but I couldnt do much weights because I felt hyper and I was scared I will drop something heavy on my toes. I will do half from now on when I need some pick me up to be able to work out and when I feel too lazy to work.
Anyone used redline? i know it comes in pills too, I just dont want to get used to this stuff and not be able to get up without taking it. Its 1.28am and I'm still so hyper i feel like going for a run, I guess I take my dog for a walk, why did i have to drink the whole thing. :O
naughty_princess
06-13-2007, 11:41 PM
^ a lot of guys i know drink redline. i dont really think to work out, but they all say it works good for giving them a ton of energy. actually that its the only one that actually does anything
i dont drink anything but water though...
Lysondra
06-14-2007, 02:44 AM
What's with the updates on all the steroids threads this week?
genesia
06-14-2007, 05:17 AM
really?? i had dramatic weight loss from it. when i first started taking it, i lost over 6lbs in the first week. the first few days i didn't notice much difference, then the weight just suddenly started falling off.
i actually started on a 2 week cycle of it again last week (yes, you all can bitch at me all you want, because i just don't learn), but i've found it really attacks my immune system. both times i've started taking it, i've ended up coming down with a really really bad flu/cold just over a week into it. i was only taking it this time for 2 weeks leading up to a competition, but i'm not sure i'll bother now, because i don't want to get sick again and have to pull out. it especially sucks because now i haven't been able to go to the gym all week, as i've been to sick... so i've taken a backwards step.
i think once i'm over this flu i'll just go the no carbs/crazy workouts route for the next week up til the comp.
LOL Darcy i guess i don't learn either.. i'm back on too. :-\
This is my 3rd day.. let me know how you're doing progresswise, and i will keep you posted as well!! I did 20mcg 1st day, 40mcg 2nd day.. dunno if i will go up to 60 today or not.. how much you runnin?? I don't have alotta sides... but my nerves are fuckin SHOT anyways, so i prolly wouldn't notice, even if i did/:O
Erika_FL
06-15-2007, 08:37 PM
Got the Ephedrine today, I'm kinda scared to take it, it says on the box its for asthma. Does anyone know when should I take it b4, during or after a meal? I have to lose my muffin top I grew over the past year or so, I cant get rid of it /:O , so I'm gonna try this thing and hope I dont kill myself, i'm not going to drink redline while taking Ephedrine, should I take it for 2 or 4 weeks? Thanks.
ahmeerah
06-15-2007, 10:10 PM
As long as you don't have any health issues (including mental) -
You're supposed to take it first thing on an empty stomach w/ 200 mg of caffeine (I prefer guarana).
READ THE DIRECTIONS. And do not take too much. Start with only one does. Eventually if you're still taking it you MIGHT want to take it first thing in the AM and then 30 mins before lunch.
Drink extra water while you're taking it so you don't dehydrate yourself. Take some type of multi-vitamin too so you don't simply deplete your body of minerals and other nutrients.
Clen is that shit. If your jaw isn't clenched, you aren't taking enough!
FYI, ephedra is not a break from clen. They both inhibit the same receptor(clen as a sniper, ephedra as a shotgun, hitting several).
When you want to cycle off clen, you can't take ephedra. Take another kind of thermogenic in the meantime or watch soap operas
Erika_FL
06-16-2007, 10:44 AM
Thanks ahmeerah, I just took it few mins ago, but just ephedrine without caffeine to see how my body reacts to it, I will have breakfast soon and I always have a coffee with it anyways, geez its almost 2pm, time to wake up :-\ , hope I can lose few pounds with this thing, I just cant do it by eating salads, I hate salads and if I go on a diet I start to pig out after a few days, i get ice cream and eat the whole bucket, so I'm just eating everything in moderation and working out, also since I saw Fastfood nation I cut all fast food out, not that I ate a lot of that but every few months I had something greasy and nasty hehe, my weakness is ice cream, 3somes with ben and jerry are the best. ;)
Less than an hour later after taking ephedrine my hart rate is 112 is that normal? I dont have heart problems, my dr always tells me my heard is strong and healthy but now I feel like it will jump out, just want to make sure its ok or is this because my body is freaking out and I shouldnt take it or maybe take half of the pill tomorrow? Thanks girls
Katrine
06-16-2007, 11:17 AM
Dammit, dammit, dammit!! I have a stash of mini-thins with Ephedrine in them. I'm actually having some breathing problems from a respitory infection that wouldn't go away and needed to cough some shit out of my lungs. But I was also looking for the energy I used to get when I combined 3-4 pills with green tea or coffee. Nothing. I could have just gone right back to sleep. No extra energy or motivation.
I think I've ruined myself from the cocaine and adderrol. Forget about it, just have to learn coping mechanisms while my metabolism and energy plummet....
ahmeerah
06-16-2007, 08:18 PM
Erika
If you're nervous about taking it, maybe it's not a good idea. Sometimes nerves can make the heart pound like it's coming out of your chest. It might not even be the ephedra/ine.
You could always just do caffeine/guarana. Caffeine pills (and ephedrine pills) make me sick and nauseus. I stick with the herbs.
I hope it works out for ya!
Erika_FL
06-16-2007, 11:47 PM
Erika
If you're nervous about taking it, maybe it's not a good idea. Sometimes nerves can make the heart pound like it's coming out of your chest. It might not even be the ephedra/ine.
You could always just do caffeine/guarana. Caffeine pills (and ephedrine pills) make me sick and nauseus. I stick with the herbs.
I hope it works out for ya!
I was fine after about an hour of faster heart rate it started going down, I kept counting it to make sure it wont go up to high, it felt like I was working out for a few hours, had a lot done today and I wasnt tired and sleepy, didnt go to the gym yet, I take the weekends off so I will see on monday how it feels during some cardio.
My boyfriend took one too since he saw me doing everything like a little energizer bunny, he wants to lose some weight too so I'm curious to see how that will work out for each of us, he didnt get his heart rate too high, but he had more energy, he drinks coffee like it was water so his body is used to it. Thanks for all the info, I feel much better about taking it, not scared about it anymore.
twisterinAZ
01-16-2008, 02:52 AM
God. I have been looking fo this thread for days. I'm so glad I found it. I just picked mine up today and am getting ready to start it tomorrow. I heard you are supposed to take it every day for 2 weeks and then take 5 days off and start again. I'm a little nervous because I'm high strung and hyper anyway. I wonder how this will affect my insomnia. Who cares..I'll keep you all updated.
cameron_keys
01-16-2008, 11:09 AM
God. I have been looking fo this thread for days. I'm so glad I found it. I just picked mine up today and am getting ready to start it tomorrow. I heard you are supposed to take it every day for 2 weeks and then take 5 days off and start again. I'm a little nervous because I'm high strung and hyper anyway. I wonder how this will affect my insomnia. Who cares..I'll keep you all updated.
Where did you find it?
twisterinAZ
01-16-2008, 02:51 PM
I was searching under cleMbuterol, and then under Darcy's posts but I was mis spelling cleNbuterol. I also PM'd her but I didn't hear anything back. I might have been searching the lounge. I have never been very good with the search function:-[
cameron_keys
01-16-2008, 02:55 PM
I was searching under cleMbuterol, and then under Darcy's posts but I was mis spelling cleNbuterol. I also PM'd her but I didn't hear anything back. I might have been searching the lounge. I have never been very good with the search function:-[
No..not the thread...where did you find the actual clenbuterol?
twisterinAZ
01-17-2008, 08:26 AM
Oh.. DUHHH:-[
Through a friend. I assume that it is foriegn because it is a very tiny pill.
That's the kind I took. A tiny white pill in a bottle with an asian label. I've heard the liquid form is much better.
twisterinAZ
01-18-2008, 08:58 AM
Maybe I'm hallucinating but I think I am a little thinner. Sweet.
thickienikkie
03-04-2008, 09:24 AM
Yes darcy
Please be careful! I heard some baadd things about clen. It works, yes but it DANGEROUS for your heart. Those men in there know we have to watch our weight and they're probably just fucking with your head.
I weigh waaaaay more than you and I'm 5'0. I've never been called fat. I'm not frankly. People don't even think I weigh as much as I do but I have a really flat tummy, yes my thighs are thick, ass rotund, but it's firm like a mug. I have tried to lose them because I wanted smaller thighs, but these fuckers will not budge. Just be careful I don't want to read any threads about you being in the e. r . or wut not
A face that beautiful must have a hott body to go with it...
Man as long as I'm cashin in at the end of my night I'll be dragging my "FAT" ass all the way to the bank.. shiiittt
Darcy Foxx
03-04-2008, 09:41 AM
I was searching under cleMbuterol, and then under Darcy's posts but I was mis spelling cleNbuterol. I also PM'd her but I didn't hear anything back. I might have been searching the lounge. I have never been very good with the search function:-[
hey, sorry bout that, i'm hopeless at replying to messages... so damn forgetful :(
anyway. clen nearly killed me. came very close to having an overdose while driving and it was without a doubt the scariest thing that has ever happened to me in my life. whilst i don't think i did any permanent physical damage, the mental ramifications it has had are enormous. i can basically attribute the beginning of my problems with anxiety and panic attacks to the near OD, as the reason they started was because i became terrified that i'd done damage to my heart and was going to start blacking out whilst driving again, which turned into full blown acute anxiety and panic disorders, which have basically fucked up my life for the last 8 months.
that being said, you're probably not as completely fucking crazy as i was back then, so you're probably less likely to be stupid and overdose. there's absolutely no doubt that it'll make you lose weight, but whether it's worth the potential risks or not is up to you.
PuertoRicanPinup
03-10-2008, 09:16 PM
I got Clenbuterol in Mexico and it made me soooo sleepy. and hungry. No bueno for me.
omfgbarbie
05-26-2008, 05:45 PM
isn't this what nicole richie took to get skinny? i also heard that its a horse tranquilizer lol...
VegasPrincess
05-26-2008, 06:09 PM
^^^
Really? That sounds like it could be fun actually....
omfgbarbie
05-26-2008, 07:25 PM
I didnt get the Ephedrine pills yet but I went to GNC yesterday to get my vitamins and the guy told me to try redline drinks for energy, I had half of the bottle (its 8oz bottles) yesterday afternoon so I can actually have the energy to work and it was great I was chatty all night lol, today i had half in the morning after breakfast , well morning for me is 1pm and the other half about 1 hour later b4 I went to the gym, I think it was too much, it felt great during the cardio but I couldnt do much weights because I felt hyper and I was scared I will drop something heavy on my toes. I will do half from now on when I need some pick me up to be able to work out and when I feel too lazy to work.
Anyone used redline? i know it comes in pills too, I just dont want to get used to this stuff and not be able to get up without taking it. Its 1.28am and I'm still so hyper i feel like going for a run, I guess I take my dog for a walk, why did i have to drink the whole thing. :O
I'm telling you right now that redline is liquid speed
Lysondra
05-26-2008, 08:24 PM
isn't this what nicole richie took to get skinny? i also heard that its a horse tranquilizer lol...
No, its a horse asmatic medicine.
aviendha
05-26-2008, 11:16 PM
The horse tranquilizer is Ketamine.