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LilyLove
03-15-2007, 06:33 AM
I'm a lil' worried about the foster home too. Its not your fault tho!!

britt244
03-15-2007, 09:49 AM
yeah, when we go to the vet tomorrow he's getting totally checked out. he still isn't coming out, it's going to be interesting trying to get him out tomorrow... :-\

Djoser
03-15-2007, 03:51 PM
Give yourself a bit of time to catch him. Remember, animals can pick up on emotions even if they can't understand the words you are using, so try to remain as calm as possible even if your first capture attempt doesn't work.

The vet will hopefully be able to advise you, but you have already gotten some great advice here.

Odds are he will always be a shy kitty, but they can be so sweet when they do open up and trust you!

Bobcat
03-15-2007, 10:01 PM
Just wanted to add...when you go to catch him for his vet appointment, it might be obvious, I don't know, but don't call him/use his name or anything...if possible, just calmly and quietly snatch him up, or perhaps corral him into a carrier... It'll be better for later on so he doesn't relate you calling his name/talking to him with getting locked into a carrier and heading off to the vet.

britt244
03-18-2007, 07:28 PM
so, to update...

getting him out to go to the vet was AWFUL. my furniture was moved all over the room and if anybody saw me they wouldve laughed probably. but the vet said he's super healthy, he got shots and retested and he's good to go :)

my mom has been spending a lot of time with him while im at work, and now he'll let us take him out and hold him and he purrs all the time. he wont *stay* out, if you take him out sometimes he'll sit for a half hour then go hide again, and you have to take him out, but he's letting us take him out. he'll also sit on my lap or with me without being held after i take him out. im so happy!

he's getting nutered on thursday, so hopefully he'll be happier after that, too. its easy to find him and get him out because im at my parents and he's being shut in my bedroom all the time, and we moved or blocked anything he could get under. im not sure how it'll be when we get back to my apartment, but we have to stay here now because the vet is here and that way he gets human contact while im at work so hopefully he'll get used to it.

thank you guys soooo freaking much for all your help!

UtahMike
03-18-2007, 07:43 PM
I'm glad your kitty is doing so well and is so happy. As far as neutering, none of my cats acted like anything had happened. Has kitty told you his name yet?

Djoser
03-19-2007, 02:17 AM
That's fucking great! Before I was a bit worried (though not too much since I had a similar kitty). I felt bad for you because you were obviously at a total loss and were very worried.

Now I'm jealous, lol! I want a kitty...

phairestofthemall
03-19-2007, 03:43 AM
Glad he came up healthy, phew!

If you have time though, you still might have a talk with the foster's org, because I just find it ridiculous you weren't provided with vet records when you got him. Even if she's not scamming them, they should be made aware that she's not socializing her charges sufficiently. Hopefully not because she's a dirtbag, she may just have taken in more animals than she can properly tend- then it's their place to suggest she cut back and save another person your difficulties.

britt244
03-19-2007, 11:32 AM
well, i didnt go through an ogranization. im sure *she* does, but we found an ad on our dog's vet's bulletin board. so im not sure what we can do about that. she just gave him to me, no charge or anything. i just want to forget about how rotten she was! im not sure if there would be a way to tell anybody.

his name is jasper. sorry, i forgot to mention that before.

NatalieFRPhilly
03-19-2007, 11:53 AM
Yay Im so glad jasper is coming out of his shell! You will be a great mama.

mina loy
03-19-2007, 11:44 PM
jasper is a great name for a cat. now i want to see the pictures!

toomuchhomeworklately
03-20-2007, 12:54 AM
I'm so happy for you!! ;D That's awesome that he's purring on your lap. You're a good mommy & he finally realized that. So cute!

britt244
03-20-2007, 10:32 AM
i'll put pictures up soon! im an idiot and i dont know how to get them from my phone to the computer haha.. and i left the cord for my camera to the computer at my apartment. boo.

britt244
03-25-2007, 06:44 PM
ok, me and jasper are back at my apartment. i blocked off my dresser with towels so he cant go back there, and i did the best i could to block my bed with pillows and things but i'm afraid he'll get under them! i'm scared now that we're back here and he can go to his hiding place, he will again. hes letting me hold him and everything but hes tried to go under the pillows already. right now hes sitting on my lap but if i put him on the floor i know he'd try to hide. boo.

edit: i have pictures now :)
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o221/alysepictures/kitty003.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o221/alysepictures/kitty002.jpg

Djoser
03-25-2007, 09:19 PM
...i'm scared now that we're back here and he can go to his hiding place, he will again. hes letting me hold him and everything but hes tried to go under the pillows already. right now hes sitting on my lap but if i put him on the floor i know he'd try to hide. boo.



Relax...he's just a shy kitty. But if he's purring when you hold and pet him, you have nothing to worry about.

My cat, as I said before, would never sit in my lap at first. If I picked her up and put her there, she would jump down immediately. Finally I would hold her there gently (you don't want to force it as it just scares them), and feed her kitty treats. After a month or two of that, she'd jump up there when I called her and patted my hand there, trust me!

As far as wanting to hide--that's actually a healthy cat thing--they love finding little lairs and dens that no one can get at, where they feel snug and comfortable.

If he's shy he'll want to stay there longer, and be more reluctant to leave, though. You could try arranging for a very comfortable little kitty hidey spot, complete with a blanket and kitty treats, maybe--one that you can get at if vitally necessary. They tend to love boxes, so maybe a box with a blanket in it in the corner behind a chair or something. If you want to get him out of there approach slowly and calmly, saying his name very quietly, that way you aren't violating his sense of security there.

But if he has been purring and happy when you hold and pet him, he will want more, trust me. Maybe try being hard to get, lol.

He really looks like a perfectly healthy and content little kitty, especially in the first picture. I am so jealous.

britt244
03-25-2007, 09:25 PM
haha, i think he looks mean in pictures! im just sad because all week at my parents there wasnt anyplace he could hide that i couldnt get to him and pick him up and pet him so he'd get used to me. i had a week of a snuggly kitty and now he's back to hiding where i cant reach him! tomorrow i'm going to the pet store though to get some kitty climbing things (i dont know how to describe them, you know though.. the scratching post ones with like the compartments in them so they can hide and play). im a little concerned because he just got neutered and declawed and he has to have medicine twice a day and i cant reach him! hopefully tomorrow morning he'll come out so i can give it to him, he already got it tonight.

UtahMike
03-25-2007, 11:10 PM
He looks a lot like my Micro.

http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11181&d=1172036836

Everything will be fine now. He purrs when you hold him, so he is a happy cat. He just likes his old den because he feels safe and comfortable there. Don't worry about it.

LilyLove
03-25-2007, 11:43 PM
I have a cat that I got from the Humane Society when he was already an adult. I spent weeks lying on the floor a few feet away from where he was hiding before he finally crept out to sniff at me. It took weeks after that for me to be able to touch and pet him without tearing up my arms with his claws.
Now, he can't get enought love. He follows me around rubbing himself on my legs and trying to block the computer screen.
He was a poor abused kitty when I got him and now he's my lil cuddlebug.
I think your kitty will come around, especially since you seem to have been so sweet and patient with him. Don't worry about wrassling him out of his hiding place to medicate him though. Sometimes kitties need tough love too!

Djoser
03-25-2007, 11:54 PM
Now, he can't get enought love. He follows me around rubbing himself on my legs and trying to block the computer screen.
He was a poor abused kitty when I got him and now he's my lil cuddlebug.


Please, you are fucking killing me here, lol...

I miss my kitty! She was very shy too, but what a sweetheart.

Britt: I know cats--trust me, the first picture is that of a happy kitty, there's no doubt about it. He's just being cool about it. They don't sit like that if they are stressing. You are doing fine. The second one, he is wondering what you are up to with that stupid clicking box thing again, when he is trying to take an important nap.

LilyLove
03-26-2007, 12:20 AM
Djoser: I swear the shy kitties break my heart, make me fall in love, and tear down my defenses more than the friendly ones. Yup, I tear up just thinking about my baby. Sounds like ya need some pussy! Do you not have any kitties now? Maybe the place you live won't let you? If so, my kitty sends you purrs and love!

Djoser
03-26-2007, 02:20 AM
...Sounds like ya need some pussy! Do you not have any kitties now? Maybe the place you live won't let you? If so, my kitty sends you purrs and love!

Yeah, I got some pussy a while back (see below), but I think I'm due again...

http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85184

I like the shy ones, too--but these days, in my present situation, I've been going for the brazen, slutty kitties, since I don't have time to coax out the shy ones too often.

drewcifer
03-26-2007, 06:59 AM
My cat was hiding under my bed until I bought him a scrathpad filled with catnip. Cats LOVE catnip. Maybe see if this will help. Also, cats love a high place that is comfortable where they can observe what is going on.

britt244
03-26-2007, 08:58 PM
djoser, you so need a cat. i expect to hear that you've gotten one soon! :P

i got some toys with catnip, but he cant have it right now because he's on medicine because he got declawed. no scratching post, either, because his paws still hurt. i wasn't gonna declaw him, but when we were at my parents, he went under the bed, tore a hole in my box spring, and climbed up in there to hide. i mightve posted about that already.. but i didnt want him getting stuck up there if he did it to my bed here, so thats why i did it.

Katrine
03-26-2007, 09:12 PM
Whoa, after all of that initial trauma, you had him DE-CLAWED?!? Wow, just wow. Cats won't get stuck, they'll find a way out. I'm glad he's feeling better though. Its not my cat or my life, so I'm not going to lecture you....

britt244
03-26-2007, 09:14 PM
yes, at the same time he was neutered. he's fine now, and i'm convinced that the "initial trauma" was from being closed away in the room where he was kept at his foster house. he's perfectly happy now :)

mina loy
03-26-2007, 11:02 PM
jasper is a pretty kitty!

i threw a fit when my mom wanted to get my cat (he was 12 at the time) declawed. she went ahead and did it. i have heard stories about how awful it is for cats. he struggled at first but 5 years later he seems to be fine. he goes outside a lot and is okay. still, i worry about it. i asked the vet at his check-up if it's true that declawing cats hurts them forever. he said that at first, but then the pain goes away. my kitty doesn't seem to be in pain.

britt244
03-26-2007, 11:05 PM
why thank you :)

he's a totally indoor kitty, so he doesnt technically need his claws. i had second thoughts about doing it, but it'll be better in the long run. right now, he has some medicine, but he only has enough for tomorrow and then he's done. i might only give him one dose tomorrow and one the next day instead of both tomorrow. he'll be fine soon since he's so young. he'll be fine :)

UtahMike
03-26-2007, 11:14 PM
A declawed cat should be kept indoors as it has lost its defenseive weapons and can no longer climb trees as well to escape danger.

britt244
03-26-2007, 11:54 PM
i have another question.. i'll probably have tons, so i thank you guys again for all your help! is there a way i can retrain him to be a daytime kitty? when he was in the foster house, the woman came home from work at 2, 3, 4, 5am. so in the day he wants nothing to do with me, but around 1 or 2 am he gets in such a playful mood. that's when he eats, usually, too. he snacks a little during the day, but he eats the majority at night. i have school in the morning though, so when i get home from work i dont have much time to stay up late playing with him. any way i can reverse this?

oh, btw.. he came out from under teh bed and jumped up to lay with me! he wants to play, but im super happy he came up and snuggled against me.

Djoser
03-27-2007, 12:10 AM
...is there a way i can retrain him to be a daytime kitty? any way i can reverse this?

oh, btw.. he came out from under teh bed and jumped up to lay with me! he wants to play, but im super happy he came up and snuggled against me.

Told you so, lol...

I could tell right away from that first picture he's fine, that's 'contented kitty' body language for sure. And if they are purring when you are petting them as you described before, they are bound to want more.

Changing the schedule, well to some extent, sure--but cats are nocturnal creatures to a large degree--they will kind of just sleep/eat/play off and on, day and night. But basically, he will look to you for companionship, so he will eventually learn to come to you when you are awake for affection and playtime. Try giving him his food during the middle of the day--and if you give him wet food as a special treat or whatever, do it then for sure.

One thing I learned right away, though, it is possible--contrary to popular opinion--to break a cat of waking you up for food or attention. Some cats try this, and their owners give in to it. Don't do it, or they will never stop, lol!

Katrine
03-27-2007, 02:57 PM
Meh, I'm my cat's bitch. I will get up whenever she wants and do anything for her. I suck as a parent. ;)

britt244
03-27-2007, 10:47 PM
ok, i just wanted to post a few more pics of him.. hes such a good cuddler :P

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o221/alysepictures/kitty005.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o221/alysepictures/kitty004.jpg

mina loy
03-27-2007, 10:55 PM
awwwwwwwww!!!!!! he's so beautiful!

LilyLove
03-28-2007, 12:02 AM
Soooo freakin' cute!
His eyes look gorgeous!

AlexxaHex
03-28-2007, 01:04 AM
Hmm well I personally believe that declawing cats is inhumane and unnecessary but what's done is done - you adopted him, not me. But it does hurt them for a while and leave them defenseless forever. It is more for the human and has no benefit to the cat whatsoever. Is there a particular reason why you did it or did you just think it was a standard procedure? Some vets can pressure people into getting certain things done even when it's unnecessary or optional. Sometimes these things may not be best. I am not trying to yell at you about it, but maybe this can help someone else's kitty if they are reading this thread.

I hope the vet suggested that you use a paper-based (non-clay) litter while his little paws are healing.

For me, a part of my good memories of Pogo and Siren as kittens is all the battle scars I received! lol You wouldn't think so, but I'm glad they were strong and healthy enough to inflict wounds and have play battles with me and each other. That's part of what cats do, and we need to honor their true nature as predators if we want to share space with them. Cats do calm down a lot as they get older - mine are now 6 and 7 and starting to get random health issues - nothing serious but just little things that come with age. Enjoy their kitten years while you can because everything after that becomes expensive - plus you start to sort of miss being pounced on from the top of the refrigerator at 6am. Once that vibrancy is gone you can't get it back. It's hard to watch their little lives pass such faster than ours. It's hard to imagine that mine will die someday. We've grown so attached I consider them better than most of my family!

Your little Jasper is adorable! If you take good care of him, he can bring you almost 20 years of unconditional and pure love...longer than the majority of relationships last. You will really come to appreciate all the little quirks and nuances of his "personality". Cats make such wonderful companions. Don't try to change their behavior too much - he will sleep when he wants, but I think eventually he will change to spend as much time with you as possible. Felines are often unpredictable and regal creatures. I always joke that cats are the only creatures that tame and train US.

I also want to take the time to speak out AGAINST grocery store brand foods like IAMS. There is really no difference between that and Purina. Both are made of animal by-products (heads, feet and other body parts humans would not eat) which can cause major health problems down the line. I feed my cats , which is holistic and contains no fillers or by-products and also has really healthy things in it like acidophilus. You can read the ingredients for yourself - I think people could eat it if they wanted to (not that you would - lol). It's expensive and I have to drive about 45 minutes away to get it but my cats LOVE it and they don't shed hardly at all anymore. Trust me, as someone who foolishly fed my cats mediocre food for years, I see a huge difference in their appearance and behavior with the holistic food.
Another similar brand is (ingredients are at the bottom), which I have seen at Petco but I am already feeding them Artemis so I don't want to switch.

Also, try to stay away from feeding too much tuna fish. It has high levels of mercury in it which is very bad for kitties. Trader Joe's makes an alternative called "Kitty Tuna" which is a little better but try sticking to wet food if you want to give something other than dry food.

Djoser
03-28-2007, 02:17 AM
I no longer have any sympathy for you whatsoever, lol. I am utterly and completely jealous.

That last picture, especially, shows a very happy kitty indeed--after you learn kitty body language, you will recognize it yourself. Were these pictures taken after the declawing?

I am opposed to declawing on general principle (it's tantamount to cutting off the last joints of our fingers), but from the evidence of the photographs it hasn't traumatized him. He appears quite content and relaxed. He's also a very handsome kitty. You are doing very well--just never let him get outside, whatever you do--he'll be helpless.

The pictures are killing me, lol!

britt244
03-28-2007, 08:55 AM
yup, i took the pictures right before i posted them :) i was having 2nd thoughts about getting him declawed the morning we dropped him off, but i really do believe that it is for the best. i know everybody has their own opinions about it, and i know there isnt a real benefit for him, but i think it's made it easier for me to get him out and cuddling! haha, well, i know it has. but thats just my opinion.

alexxa, i'm feeding him proplan kitten food. it's made by purina, should i switch to something else? i'm giving him both wet and dry food because that's what the vet recommended (she said too much wet will cause tooth problems and too much dry can lead to kidney problems later). im just listening to her because i dont know any better! should i try something else? i thought the nutro was part of the recalled foods, too. i'm not giving him tuna anymore, i only gave it to him right at first when he wasnt eating because i was desperate. also, how you said you cant imagine them not being there anymore, last night i was thinking about how what if i have a baby one day and the baby is allergic! haha, im thinking way too far ahead already, but i'm so happy i got him, even though i was having serious second thoughts in the beginning :)

oh, and about me wanting him to play more in the day.. i just feel guilty because if he's only in a playful mood at night, i'm not here because of work and then i cant stay up all night playing with him, as much as i want to! i just want to give him all the attention he wants. haha, he is going to be a very spoiled kitty.

rozz
03-28-2007, 09:12 AM
Hmm well I personally believe that declawing cats is inhumane and unnecessary but what's done is done - you adopted him, not me. But it does hurt them for a while and leave them defenseless forever. It is more for the human and has no benefit to the cat whatsoever. Is there a particular reason why you did it or did you just think it was a standard procedure? Some vets can pressure people into getting certain things done even when it's unnecessary or optional. Sometimes these things may not be best. I am not trying to yell at you about it, but maybe this can help someone else's kitty if they are reading this thread.


There are alternatives to delcawing if you don't want to end up with the battle scars Alexxa loves. I adopted my little freak about 2 years ago and she loved (and still loves) to scratch everything. I use Soft Paws claw covers, available online or at a groomer's. She wigged out the first time I put them on, but now it's routine and doesn't seem to bother her (and my couch and arms are still intact).

britt244
03-28-2007, 11:33 AM
I hope the vet suggested that you use a paper-based (non-clay) litter while his little paws are healing.

i'm using stuff called yesterdays news. its IMPOSSIBLE to scoop but that's what they recommended. how long before i can go back to regular litter?

britt244
03-28-2007, 11:38 AM
and just to say it again, ive said it before and i'll probably say it a million times more.. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH! i wouldnt know what to do with a kitty at all without you guys, ive only ever had dogs!!! :puckerup:

toomuchhomeworklately
03-28-2007, 12:57 PM
They told you to use yesterday's news? That's what my mom uses in her bunnies litter box. That stuff doesn't absorb any of the stink. Yuck! Maybe put less in the litter box (like only an inch an a half deep) & dump it every other day. My grandma bought me a Persian kitten (I named him Cream Puff) when I was 5 & had it declawed (so it wouldn't hurt her sweet grandbaby!) They do bounce back fast from declawing when they're little. But I don't remember how long they have to have special litter. It was a surgery, so 2-4 weeks seems right. Check out his paws daily. When you check out his paws also look at his teeth & in his ears - since he's young this will train him to not freak out when he goes in for regular vet checks. Pet him & maybe give him a treat after. When his feet look totally perfect, switch to regular litter.

Did you get all of his feet declawed or just the front? Be VERY careful that he never gets outside. I was out of town with my aunt & cousins for 2 weeks when I was 7 & my 4 year old sister left a door open. My sweet little Persian kitten went outside & met our Alaskan Malamute (which was an outside dog). He was a very friendly dog. My parents assume that he went to sniff this little ball of fluff, the cat couldn't climb the tree to get away & bit the dog on the nose because he was scared. The dog then bit my Cream Puff on the head & broke his jaw. I came back from vacation to find my cat in intensive care at the vet. He died 3 days later. I hated my little sister for months afterward for leaving the door open. Damn, writing all that down makes me so sad now. He was such a sweet cat. Don't let yours outside.

britt244
03-28-2007, 01:04 PM
awww im so sorry to hear that :( i'm being super careful to make sure he never gets out, even when i'm here and sitting right next to the window i only open it a crack because im so paranoid!

you said check his paws, what exactly am i checking for? to see when they seem healed to go back to normal litter?

i only got the front 2 done.

Djoser
03-28-2007, 01:08 PM
...ive only ever had dogs!!! :puckerup:

I kind of figured that from your posts. Cats are definitely a totally different ballgame--but they can be loyal and affectionate companions as well as dogs.

Hint: raise the cat the same way you would a dog. Teach it to come when you call it's name--a treat in the hand will mean he will do it, it just takes a lot more repetition than it does with the dogs, who are disgustingly eager to please. You have to catch the cat when it is in the right mood, lol. So many people give up on cats and just let them do as they please, which is fine--but cats ARE trainable, and it is well worth the extra effort.

I had a kitty that would fetch, it was the bomb! I still miss her, too--but she belongs to the one ex I have no desire to speak to, so I will never see her again (sigh)

AlexxaHex
03-28-2007, 03:56 PM
Britt, I would not recommend the Pro Plan food. I did a google search and found this list of ingredients:

Notice the by-products at the top of the list, and corn meal being the 3rd ingredient. It's not the best option.

I also came up with this list for the recalled cat foods:


Nutro is on there unfortunately. Their product overall has always been good. That's really a shame.

Maybe there is another holistic food you can look for that has similar ingredients. The main thing you want to avoid is by-products. If you live in an area where you wouldn't have access to these brands of food, at least consider supplements like this one:


I wouldn't feed a 50/50 mixture of wet and dry personally. Not only does wet food tend to make for messy and stinky poo, but it can contribute to obesity. I give my cats 2-3 cans of Artemis wet food per week (with a small tablet of crushed acidophilus mixed in to aid in digestion) and leave their bowl full of dry food all the time. Allowing "free feeding" (not feeding on a human-imposed schedule) is better for their urinary tracts and also keeps the cat happier psychologically. There are cranberry supplements/treats I've seen that you can give for urinary tract health, but I'm not familiar with the results they can provide. Sometimes there is nothing you can do to prevent UTIs, as urinary crystals can form in the bladder and cause blockage in the male later in life. Their urethras are much narrower than females. Doing all you can diet-wise is the best prevention.

You can switch their diets, but do it slowly and gradually so as to not upset the tummy.

You might also want to get a bag of those "Greenie's" - they are little green crunchy treats which are good for cleaning the teeth. I started giving my cats 2-4 each every few days and their breath smells a lot better than it did before.

I'm not sure how long to use the Yesterday's News litter for - I never declawed Pogo and Siren, but you can call your vet and they can give you an approximate time frame. I guess you'd want to avoid using the clay while his wounds are still open (bleeding).

Djoser - Siren knows how to fetch too! It's so cute. I didn't even realize that I might have taught her, but if I throw her little fuzzy mouse, she runs and gets it and then brings it to me over and over for me to throw again.
Eventually she gives up or the mouse gets stuck under the couch.

mina loy
03-28-2007, 10:52 PM
I had a kitty that would fetch, it was the bomb! I still miss her, too--but she belongs to the one ex I have no desire to speak to, so I will never see her again (sigh)

i'm in the same boat. i had an abyssinian-bengal mix with my ex that i loved. then he moved to oregon and took her with him! he later had the nerve to say she was never my cat at all, even though i paid for her!

UtahMike
03-28-2007, 11:06 PM
If you want him to eat during the day, just don't give him any food to eat at night. He may not like it at first, but he won't starve if you give him food during the day.

Leaving food out all the time is not a good idea anyway, especially if you have only one cat. Castrated males have a tendency toward obesity, and they will eat more food if more is available. When they get older, they also have a tendency toward kidney stones, but you do not have to worry about that for a few years yet.

Jasper looks very happy, and if he is happy he will play with you when you are available. He is sure a cute little kitty, and I am glad that he owns you. Er, that you own him, I mean.

Djoser
03-28-2007, 11:25 PM
i'm in the same boat. i had an abyssinian-bengal mix with my ex that i loved. then he moved to oregon and took her with him! he later had the nerve to say she was never my cat at all, even though i paid for her!

Wow, sounds like a beautiful kitty! What an asshole to steal your cat--can't you take it to court and try to get custody, lol?

In my case, it was her cat, bought and paid for. I hope she and the kitty have many fine years together.

Lysondra
03-28-2007, 11:30 PM
I've had a cat for a year now that still won't let me hold her... she was beaten... thank god she's pretty... 'cause she makes a good lookin' at cat.

mina loy
03-28-2007, 11:32 PM
Wow, sounds like a beautiful kitty! What an asshole to steal your cat--can't you take it to court and try to get custody, lol?




she is very beautiful. go into the "rescued pets" thread on the picture post board. find my post--she's in the second photo.

i loved her so much. i wish i could take it to court except i paid for her in cash so there's no trail. i've fantasized about going up to oregon with my "posse" and snatching her away, though. yet, she has a good home.

Djoser
03-29-2007, 12:06 AM
she is very beautiful. go into the "rescued pets" thread on the picture post board. find my post--she's in the second photo.

i loved her so much. i wish i could take it to court except i paid for her in cash so there's no trail. i've fantasized about going up to oregon with my "posse" and snatching her away, though. yet, she has a good home.

Ruby is a beautiful kitty.

Were you trying to torture me, lol? I had to wade through three pages of beautiful kitties, doggies, cockatoos, owls, possums, etc. to see her--she's the third photo on page 3!