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Lapaholic
06-12-2007, 04:22 PM
I agree w/ GenWar ... there must a spot in between.
I like F&F but Ill go back for more from the same dancer. But I generally dont like to get personal which sounds like many of the long term regulars enjoy. I dont go back for the life story but for the great lap dances. So for me if a woman gives me a great lap dance ( by my high standards of course ), Ill come back for many more. But I dont need to sit with her all night or even extended periods of time chatting about our personal lives. I like it best when a dancer I like provides the dances I crave then moves on to make money in the club but will come back to check on me if she can. That way if I want to get more from her I will - or if another dancer peaks my interest I can get a dance from her. I like the freedom. Seems that when u become a regular, u r kind of shackled to that dancer for the entire evening. Thats the aspect of Long term I dont like.

doc-catfish
06-12-2007, 04:26 PM
I can understand how people can see my attitude as being a self-entitled or sanctimonious one, but I don't mean to project it as such. What I was thinking with these other two women was that they would do as I'd be done by, i.e. not doing things to me that I would never do to them. As it turned out, I was incorrect.

I (arrogantly) felt at the time that these girls had a responsibility to keep me coming back to them by any means necessary, even if it meant sacrificing a little of their self-expression.
As far as your spending preferences go, you can be as self-entitled as you wish. The problem is a customer that selective would be a very lonely one in most US clubs. Your exclusion list would knock out about 99% of the dancers I've ever seen. I tend to rather think that some positive attributes can balance out some negative ones, and perhaps make me overlook the latter.

And while I do have to agree with Jenny and Darcy that ultimately what a dancer does to her body is her own business, a dancer's body is also her primary piece of business capital. Too much "self-expression" could end up being very costly in the long run.

It amazes me how many gals will spend $5K or more on a BA to make themselves "more attractive", then go down to the local tattoo parlor and spend a couple hundred to make her body more "expressive", effectively negating any improvements the boob job may have made.

FBR
06-12-2007, 04:28 PM
Jenny. OK. And your point was clear to me after I went back and actually read what you said. Guess I was still thinking about getting thrown down on the couch :P

Well, if the customer you mentioned as a "perfect example" is typical of the guys that want to be your regular, I can see why you would say no thanks. I suppose technically he didn't do anything "wrong" since he apparently didn't try to violate your boundaries but, still, his words were distracting and annoying at best. I would have just smiled and enjoyed the dance and then tried to schmooze you at the table for contact info and so forth }:D I mean, the end result likely would have been the same but somehow, to me, that approach seems less lame.

FBR

Docido
06-12-2007, 05:20 PM
It's not easy doing the long-term stripper relationship. Both sides must agree to or negotiate compatible physical and emotional boundaries. On the flipside, neither the custie nor dancer should entangle the other with sob stories or emotional/monetary blackmail. Save that for your “real life” affairs. :P

I tend to agree with Jenny about the emotional neediness. Asking a dancer to provide therapy is above and beyond the call of duty. You're there to have fun, not work out your childhood emotional traumas. Though some might claim laps can cure anything! }:D

Sorry, I'm feeling just more than a little cynical this evening.

xdamage
06-12-2007, 05:44 PM
....and who have rewarded me for it greatly. One of them has now changed clubs... who I thought would reciprocate my loyalty to them - actually did the opposite. They put their body modifications before my business, and I felt let down, therefore I had to stop having them....

Wow, you do use a lot of terms suggesting you think that the world (or the others in it) somehow revolve around you. I assume you know, or are learning, that this is a twisted view of the world and others?

As for your preferences in the club - vote with your wallet.

FBR
06-12-2007, 06:05 PM
Back 6-7 years ago, my Indy ATF decided come hell or high water she was getting a boob job. She had nice Sporty type tits which worked fine for me and apparently for other customers as she made an ass load of money. I admit to trying to talk her out of it but her husband was paying for them (on his credit card no less) and she was determined so I gave up. I thought the resultant DD's on a barely 5' tall slim body was an overkill. During the months after her BA and before we parted company, I didn't pay much attention to them. I just focused on her green eyes, curly hair, nice white smile and her ass. I mean, her coochie felt the same to me when I banged her but somehow I gleaned that the new boobs had given her a sense of entitlement. Which proved to be true in the end.

FBR

Jenny
06-12-2007, 10:32 PM
I dont need to sit with her all night or even extended periods of time chatting about our personal lives. I like it best when a dancer I like provides the dances I crave then moves on to make money in the club but will come back to check on me if she can. That way if I want to get more from her I will - or if another dancer peaks my interest I can get a dance from her. I like the freedom. Seems that when u become a regular, u r kind of shackled to that dancer for the entire evening. Thats the aspect of Long term I dont like.Dude. I want you so bad right now.

Okay, I'm kidding. I'm drunk. I still hate men, don't worry.


I would have just smiled and enjoyed the dance and then tried to schmooze you at the table for contact info and so forth }:D I mean, the end result likely would have been the same but somehow, to me, that approach seems less lame.
Well, that kind of goes with the contact - I have more practice gracefully saying no to that - like "What for? So we can like go on a date and hold hands or something? No!"

FBR
06-12-2007, 10:52 PM
Dude. I want you so bad right now.

Okay, I'm kidding. I'm drunk. I still hate men, don't worry.


Well, that kind of goes with the contact - I have more practice gracefully saying no to that - like "What for? So we can like go on a date and hold hands or something? No!"

Damn. I've been trying so hard. And yet Lap gets the nod while I'm a lost ball in the tall weeds. He's cool and all but I really want to slice his jugular veins with a dagger and laugh as his blood spews across the room. And to think that he's a fellow Junkie and that I take pleasure in that fantasy speaks volumes.

So here we have me sucking up and getting nothing while Lap is being a mofo and apparently getting it all. No wonder I'm jaded.

FBR

Crazy E
06-13-2007, 01:42 AM
Wow, you do use a lot of terms suggesting you think that the world (or the others in it) somehow revolve around you.

Not at all. I just thought way back then - rather naively - that I could have my cake and eat it too, but instead I got a serve of humble pie.

xdamage
06-13-2007, 08:07 AM
Not at all. I just thought way back then - rather naively - that I could have my cake and eat it too, but instead I got a serve of humble pie.

Gotcha.

Jenny
06-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Damn. I've been trying so hard. And yet Lap gets the nod while I'm a lost ball in the tall weeds. He's cool and all but I really want to slice his jugular veins with a dagger and laugh as his blood spews across the room. And to think that he's a fellow Junkie and that I take pleasure in that fantasy speaks volumes.

So here we have me sucking up and getting nothing while Lap is being a mofo and apparently getting it all. No wonder I'm jaded.

FBR
Oh come on. A regular who comes in, gets dances and then not only does not demand that the dancer sits with him, but is actually like "Look, could you please just go away until I want to give you more money?" That's like.. nirvana.

Docido
06-14-2007, 12:25 PM
Oh come on. A regular who comes in, gets dances and then not only does not demand that the dancer sits with him, but is actually like "Look, could you please just go away until I want to give you more money?" That's like.. nirvana.

Sounds like nirvana to me too. If you want to stay that’s fine, but you’re not obligated to do so. You’re there to work. Unfortunately, some of them won't leave even after you drop hint after hint.

Dancer: "Do you mind if I sit with you for awhile?"
Pervert (Me): "You don't have to. Go make money. I'm fine."
Dancer: "That's cool." Settling down into her seat. "Wanna buy me another drink?"
Pervert: "No. Really you don't have to hang. I'm good for now."
Dancer: "Yeah, but you're so different than most of the guys that come in here. (SS alert! SS alert! Batten down the hatches. Incoming!) You I can really talk too, especially after my a--hole boyfriend! Did I tell you he gave me Chlamydia again?"
Pervert: "I gotta go now. Bye."
Dancer: "When are you coming back?"

This conversation really happened. :P And no, I didn't do anything in VIP to catch an STD.

Lapaholic
06-14-2007, 12:47 PM
Damn. I've been trying so hard. And yet Lap gets the nod while I'm a lost ball in the tall weeds. He's cool and all but I really want to slice his jugular veins with a dagger and laugh as his blood spews across the room. And to think that he's a fellow Junkie and that I take pleasure in that fantasy speaks volumes.

So here we have me sucking up and getting nothing while Lap is being a mofo and apparently getting it all. No wonder I'm jaded.

FBR

You can never tell what makes a woman happy ;)

( BTW thanks for calling me cool. Id rather someone younger and of the opposite sex said it but hey at this point in my life im not proud!!!)

Jenny
06-14-2007, 01:37 PM
Sounds like nirvana to me too. If you want to stay that’s fine, but you’re not obligated to do so. You’re there to work. Unfortunately, some of them won't leave even after you drop hint after hint.

I think you missed the crucial step of "giving her money." It becomes a lot less nirvey if you leave that part out.

Once I did have a customer who completely disconcerted me by saying "Look, I'm sure you're real funny and smart, but could we just skip all the cutesy stuff?"

Docido
06-14-2007, 02:29 PM
This happened after I'd already done the VIP and given the money. Sometimes it's best not to talk too much. This goes for PL's as well. If she had not mentioned STD's I would have happily done another.

Jenny
06-14-2007, 02:34 PM
This happened after I'd already done the VIP and given the money. Sometimes it's best not to talk too much. This goes for PL's as well. If she had not mentioned STD's I would have happily done another.
Ah... okay, then I see that I misjudged you. I will confess that I have once or twice asked a customer if he would mind if I rejoined him after dancing; but a luckluster response like that would have probably sent me scurrying away in 90 seconds or so.

FBR
06-14-2007, 04:22 PM
Oh come on. A regular who comes in, gets dances and then not only does not demand that the dancer sits with him, but is actually like "Look, could you please just go away until I want to give you more money?" That's like.. nirvana.

Well, he does the rest of the population of regulardom a disservice. I mean, what's the point in being a regular if you can't control the dancer's time...buying occasional dances but otherwise barely giving her enough money to keep her hanging on at your table? Frankly, I consider this type of guy a threat and would probably try to get him ejected by paying another dancer to lie to the manager claiming he tried to finger her in the LD room. The sooner infectious behavior such as his is purged from the club, the sooner things would return to normal.

FBR

Jenny
06-14-2007, 05:04 PM
Oh, and now it outs. It wasn't really about me at all. Anyway - I now have two choices. I could try to come up with something really mean and borderline funny (but mostly mean) about how how much it would suck to have you as a regular or I could simper and flirt a little.

I'll go to work and see how I feel when I get home.

FBR
06-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Now that I know there is a mean look lurking behind the simpering, I'm not sure that the flirting would work anyway. But you can try if you want.

FBR

Moneywise
06-15-2007, 04:50 AM
Clearly I am an entree kind of guy :P and prefer to hone in on one dancer at a time and see how things go. How do you view yourself?

FBR

I am as well sir. I like a little serving of fava beans and a nice chianti with that entree too. :P The fun for me is in the jousting of SS and CS that ultimately culminates in either me moving on or some shit happenin. I'm really picky though so more often than not the moving on takes a very long time to happen b/c I often choose wisely.

mr_punk
06-16-2007, 08:49 PM
t's not easy doing the long-term stripper relationship. Both sides must agree to or negotiate compatible physical and emotional boundaries. On the flipside, neither the custie nor dancer should entangle the other with sob stories or emotional/monetary blackmail. Save that for your "real life" affairs.LOL..yeah right. if you were a stripper and you told this to another stripper, who's getting regular money from some goo goo-eyed PL she's stringing along. she would probably say,"this biatch is trying to stop me from making money". girls are not going to easily give up the money just because she has to shed a few crocodile tears or wipe a few runny noses and asses. i also doubt customers will stop pulling a voltabianca on strippers.

Unfortunately, some of them won't leave even after you drop hint after hint.true. this one stripper must have decided to just camp out at my table until i bought some more dances. i had to tell her straight out to beat it because she's blocking the other girls, but here's the funny part. she's dropped this SOB story about not having enough money to pay her house fee. LOL...i buy two frigging dances and now i'm responsible for her stage fee. i just gave her an incredulous stare until she left.

xdamage
06-19-2007, 08:57 AM
Unfortunately, some of them won't leave even after you drop hint after hint.


Sure, but really there are no mysteries. People tend to act in ways that benefit them. Putting aside the ultimate PLs who obsesses over one girl and only one girl, most guys still check out the other dancers even if they are spending on one.

It's like asking a salesman (car salesmen are the worst) to leave you alone. They'd love to IF they knew you were coming back to them 100% for sure when you are ready to buy, but they know full well that if they leave you, chances are you will go find another salesman, or more likely, another salesman will come and find you. So it's a balancing game. Can she make more following you around, or make more with another customer and risk that you'll wander off? And if you are a good spender, and a regular, that's good money she risks losing by leaving you be. Let's face it, the worst thing that can happen is you buy a couple trial dances from another hot girl, and it turns into a good time... bye bye regular, or at minimally, a regular who is now splitting money with another girl. Your ATF doesn't benefit from that financially, so of course she doesn't want you wandering off. If that means hanging out with you for some "free time" as a way to lock a customer into a regular spending on her and only her, it's what works. And if that means locking you down and blocking other strippers ... it's what works for her, even if you don't want a dancer blocking like that.

bem401
06-26-2007, 02:09 PM
if you intend to dance with a dancer you have established a record with, you should be able to tell her to go hustle for now and you'll dance with her later. If she doesn't believe you, offer to pay her beforehand. Obviously, if you don't know her well, you wouldn't do this. After you do that once, your word should be good enough if you want her to leave you alone for awhile. If you aren't going to dance with her, tell her up front. Tonite is not your night - I promised so-and-so a dance. Next time, I'll do a dance with you. When I was frequenting the PD area at this one club, I had a small group of favorites who all got dances but none had a monopoly on my business. If they complained about having to share, they got dropped from the loop.

Howie
06-26-2007, 10:01 PM
Finger them,
Fuck them,
Forget them.