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Chrissy68
04-13-2007, 03:26 AM
cally that was great advice.

AvaAdore
04-13-2007, 11:07 AM
As fruity as this is gonna sound, I am a very visual person (artist type) so I pictured the hustle floor as a giant rainbow and there were little pieces of gold (the customers) sprinkled throughout the colors.


The visualisation thing is doing something for me...since I haven't been earning any more, but since we've had dead (AND I MEAN, LIKE 10 GUYS DEAD) nights the two times I've worked since this thread started , I think the important thing is that I haven't earned any less!!

But instead of visualising rainbows with gold, I visualise that each guy is an ATM machine, and I need to find the secret code for it. There may be $4 in it, or there may be $400..it just depends on the 'machine'

Thank you so much ladies and gentlemen for your contribution to my plight!! Without your input I'd have thrown my heels at someone by now!

Emily
04-13-2007, 11:16 AM
But instead of visualising rainbows with gold, I visualise that each guy is an ATM machine, and I need to find the secret code for it. There may be $4 in it, or there may be $400..it just depends on the 'machine'


with experience, you'll realize it's less random than that. You will pick up on cues that he will spend. I think the biggest newbie mistake is that they don't know how to get the money even if it's poentially available to them. So watch the girls that know what they are doing.

Phil-W
04-13-2007, 11:53 AM
The visualisation thing is doing something for me...I visualise that each guy is an ATM machine, and I need to find the secret code for it. There may be $4 in it, or there may be $400..it just depends on the 'machine'.

Nice to know life is looking rosier.

The visualisation thing might have more to it that you think.

I think a lot of guys who walk into a strip venue have a general idea of what sort of dancer they're looking for.

The first point from this is that some of the guys who are in the club are never going to to buy a dance from you because you're too different from their 'ideal'.

If you get a 'no' in this case it's more down to you not assessing the guy correctly than anything due to you personally.

However, a large percentage of the customers who walk into the club will find you fall into their spectrum of what they consider to be an 'ideal' dancer.

This is where the visualisation thing comes in, because instead of a 'one size fits all' approach it now sounds like you're beginning to think "what's this guy looking for and how closely can I match it?"


Eye contact and a smile are key.

Some of the best advice you're going to get.

Look at things through a customer's eyes - what is he looking for?

Amonst other things he wants to think the dancer likes him. When we like someone we make eye contact and smile at them.

AvaAdore walks up to customer, makes eye contact and smiles at him. Customer reads body language (probably unknowingly) and thinks "AvaAdore likes me".

One step closer to selling a dance.

For all the other advice in Hustle Hut, the best advice I can give you is treat the customer to as much warmth as you can - we all like to be liked.

As you say every guy has a secret code.

Us males probably make up our minds in the initial minute as to whether we like your face and figure - the question from then on is how well we get on with you personally. Showing a genuine interest in someone is a good way to get the rest of the code that unlocks the ATM.

OK - you'll meet a number of anal retentives while you're working, but most of us'll react to a nice smile and a warm personality.

Phil.

mollyzmoon
04-13-2007, 12:05 PM
It's been said, but I think the 'having the right attitude' thing cannot be emphasized enough. Pretty helps, there is no denying that. But I was kinda chubby when I started (or at least, I didn't know how to dress in a way that flattered my body) and I really didn't have a clue about hair and makeup...I danced like a drunken robot... but I still left with $300ish on average for my few weeks... Seriously. My area is such that you can definitely make money, but it won't walk right up to you...You Have to Hustle to make money selling dances. Period (we have no VIPs here, so those $1000+ nights I've had, I was doing 50+ lapdances to make that money). It was because I hit the floor like a perky, cutesy beast. I talked to every customer I could, and I smiled and giggled my face off.

My earnings went up and up as I got in better shape, but also as I learned to avoid the manipulators and the BSers...It does take time to perfect your game. And I have worked in a club where the money just hit the floor, at least for the shifts I liked to work, so I moved on...

But be charming, always. It will make you look pretty and confident, even if you feel so royally fug. It's all about the customer you're talking to...it's all about making him feel like he's having the coolest time BECAUSE OF YOU! Guys like a girl to laugh at their jokes and be interested in their life...five-ten minutes of that flirty, ego-boosting banter, and then offer him some more fun...And if he turns you down, offer to come back a little later, and if you're not busy, then go back! Worth a try.

That's my hustle, in a nut shell. Just hustle, hustle, hustle. Don't get drunk and party and 'not worry about it'. Don't listen to what other girls make, because it is bound to either demotivate you ("oh, I guess tonight just sux, what's the use?") or else discourage you ("oh hell, I SUCK! How did she make twice as much?!").

Best of luck, in any case. Niagara Falls is excellent money, but you'd have to try working over the border, and you would have to deal with the boob-and-butt touching lapdances we do here in dirty Ontario. There are also girls selling more, but I know plenty of dancers who bank in this big ol' province doing less...

AlexxaHex
04-13-2007, 06:25 PM
That is so weird about the ATM/PIN number visualization, because I used to do the same thing! It didn't work for me that well either, and I haven't done that since I was a newbie. I think Emily is right. Sitting with him trying to "decipher his code" might take too long. It might help if you choose to visualize that you already know the PIN (the hustle/sales techniques you are learning), but you have to enter it in such a way that turns him on (smile, flirt, touch his leg, etc). There are so many visualizations we use - pick any 'money' theme and incorporate it into your setting. One dancer here pictures dollar signs above everyone's head and this helps her to feel like she is going around 'collecting' money from them. A mild sense of entitlement to the money is useful to dancers (usually new ones) who have a slight guilt, hesitancy or fear about asking for it.

Another thing to remember is that you can control a man to some extent once you are aware of his fetishes.

xcuzmylife
04-14-2007, 12:56 PM
If you just started a few weeks ago it is probably a slower time of year for you up there. There are a ton of New Yorkers in FL still. Since winter was unusually warm this year both up north and down south, season started later here. Stripping can be a VERY seasonal business. I just took a day job (yawn) because summer is approaching fast.

You are very pretty. It is not a looks issue. When I first started I talked waaaayyyy to long. If I could have deposited phone numbers in the bank instead of the trash, I'd be a wealthy girl!!! Remember, "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free". If you are giving them free attention they will not be inclined to pay for it. If it is slow, by all means stay a little longer. When it is busy, make sure you circulate.

Try to not say "wanna dance". It seems some guys are programmed to decline a "dance". Try wanna play, wanna see my boobs, can I molest you, etc.. If they ask what you are gonna play, say (Whatever name you use) says (Simon says)or twister. Sounds silly, but it works for me.

I have noticed that just as some girls need to unwind with a drink, so do some men. Wait until they've had a drink or two if they are drinking. Don't bombard them when they walk in the door.

I am also of the opinion that men who flaunt their cash are less likely to part with it. For all you know, Daddy Warbucks just took a cash advance from his credit card to appear as if he had money. Perhaps he planned on putting all that cash into his bank acct and writing a check to the credit card co the next day to pay it back. Meanwhhile, he has gotten attention from pretty girls, who believed he had money and maybe gotten to bruise an ego or two.

Keep your head up beautiful. It does get better. Failure (not saying you've failed) usually happens before success. How many thing are you a natural at? Stripping can be an acquired talent like most other things.

Cheers!!!!


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