View Full Version : Does making $200+ make u feel a bit greedy?
mermaidnz
04-11-2007, 04:54 PM
Actually for what us strippers have to deal with and what we do and hear I think $200 for a shift is being underpaid. We have to deal with alot of shit to get that $200 while people at their office jobs tapping away at the keys with all their clothes on not having to swat away the grabby sweaty hands of strange men are being paid just fine is ya ask me.
At $200 I strive to make double and if I still have time in my shift make even more. I dont feel guilty at all.
but we get paid directly as a result of the number/time of dances we have done.
if we only make $200 in one shift, we have generally done far less dancing and being groped then we would have on a $800+ night.
Misha, your right about that, its so wrong when people bitch about our job, then want us to pay for shit :( *thats* rude!!
Miss Jessica
04-11-2007, 04:58 PM
Hell no, but I will take care of restaurant bills, bar tabs and such every-so-often. Even though most of my friends don't make as much as me, they take care of me when they can too (food, drinks n' stuff) and I appreciate that.
shakti
04-11-2007, 05:03 PM
Interesting that some of us have only hot friends, who could be strippers but for some reason are foolishly choosing not to. I have all kinds of friends and some just couldn't be strippers despite working out and getting boob jobs and hair extensions. We already complain about dancers at our clubs that aren't physically up to par and really shouldn't be there. If anyone at all could make money stripping, they'd probably be doing it right now, and we'd all be crying from the competition.
Yes, I have a lot of compassion for people who could use some sort of financial way out like we have. That doesn't at all mean we don't deserve what we make, or that we're greedy for using this opportunity to give ourselves the very best.
britt244
04-11-2007, 05:14 PM
somebody else said it, but i totally agree that me making less money wouldn't leave it for someone else. why should i have less because other people do?
Dancing isn't easy, but neither is the 9to5 grind. I have done them both and prefer the perks of dancing.
I have a heart and feel for the people that I know that are struggling financially and it's mind boggling to me that I can do what I do and be more successful financially in such a smaller amount of time, but it is what it is.
I can't feel guilty or even greedy for being profitable in a business that will stop at nothing to tear you apart. I can't be made to feel anything but less than glorious to be blessed to work in an occupation with so much flexibility. I answer to no one and only disappoint myself. It works for me and I can sleep at night and during the day and during the afternoon!
GoldCoastGirl
04-16-2007, 09:04 PM
Dont feel embarressed - I feel pretty much the same as you Mermaid. Not all of my friends because some are doing very well for themselves and are happy but I think alot of people deserve to get payed more for what they do. Like all of the carers in our community for instance - where would we be without them yet why are they paid so low?
Child Care Workers especiall Child Care Assistants! The ONLY reason I didn't persue being a Child Care Assistant and working in the Child Care Industry is because of the shit pay. I made more working in a cafe (in Hospitality not including tips) than I would have as a Child Care Assistant. Alot of Child Care Workers are burnt out by the time they are 25 years of age after starting the profession/industry at 18-20 years of age.
It's such a shame. I really didn't mind the work. I just couldn't see myself doing it for such a pittance.
Umm, how can everyone "always be strippers" - not possible for everyone, and definatly not practical (-:
I agree 110%! Whilst "stripping" may be seen as a whole as something "anybody can do"... not everyone CAN do this and do this WELL... that's the difference. Anybody can do what we do for work just not everyone can do it well and we all can attest to the lack of quality control can't we?
8)
madmaxine
04-16-2007, 09:18 PM
Guilty? F*ck no. I could tell you poverty stories from my life that would make you cry. I feel like I never make ENOUGH! Especially with the things men do in SCs.
xoxoGracexoxo
04-17-2007, 11:27 AM
Not really, it may seem easy, but dealing with assholes and pricks can be draining.
Exactly. I think the idea of "feeling guilty" about making more than other people implies that what we do isn't worth the money that we make. But if men will pay it, then obviously it "worth it" to them.
krchab99
04-17-2007, 11:30 AM
not to be rude but this is the dumbest thread in sw history I don't feel an ounce of guilt i went to make money as long as I make it clean what do i have to feel guitly about. Like I tell my custys that can't decide if they want a dance don't come to the game if don't want to play. what i am saying is they know what they are getting into when they walk in they came to spend on naked girls.
Katrine
04-17-2007, 11:50 AM
Its no dumber than any of your illiterate threads. She was expressing a feeling she gets. Even in my current field, some of the newer people do feel guilt making money with financial services and products because its commission oriented.
Its not unnatural to feel guilty over being successful at times. But most people get over it. Perhaps the OP's background isn't one where financial success is common, and thus she has not seen it accoladed.
Or, perhaps some people are raised religious, and to believe that their success is equivalent to greed, which is a sin. These are just ideas. I don't know where everyone is coming from.
manchester
04-18-2007, 11:01 PM
ha are you serious?
baby we don't get paid ENOUGH for what we do
although i DO understand what you mean.
sales jobs thrive off the manipulation of others, and yes, i can see you feel guilty for that. i think there's a line though, between manipulation and hard work. that's why some girls are great at hustling and others aren't - you getting paid for the work you do and that is nothing to ever feel bad about.
if you feel bad for the money you're making, perhaps you should try volunteer dancing at the club?
i bet that'll change your mind real fast ;)
in all seriousness you seem fairly nice and humble - and if the money IS bothering you, and you feel like you have more than you need, why don't you try donating an extra 100 or so every month to your favorite charity, or some other good cause? i think that may take any guilt of excess money away, knowing that you're doing something positive with the extra $$.
BalletBaby
04-18-2007, 11:08 PM
Nope, I never feel greedy. I strive to make as much as I can. I've never forced a guy into giving me money; they've done it of their own free will.
I feel really lucky that I've had a life that has made it so easy and natural for me to dance.
I feel sad that other important types of work aren't valued as much. And lucky that dancing is.
I feel sad for my friends who work a lot and are broke, even though there are things they could do about it and don't (but a lot just couldn't be dancers) and usually I pay for food and stuff or give them things they need if they can't afford them. At the same time, peoples financial "needs" frustrate me. Like, if you make $6/hour and can't afford to fix your broken computer that you need for homework, don't go out to eat all the time.
I don't feel guilty or greedy tho.
xoxoGracexoxo
04-19-2007, 05:35 AM
I feel really lucky that I've had a life that has made it so easy and natural for me to dance.
I feel sad that other important types of work aren't valued as much. And lucky that dancing is.
That about sums it up for me, too. The work I do at my day-job, for which I get paid relatively little, is about a zillion times more important than dancing in terms of helping people and making the world a better place. In fact, I started dancing partly so I could support myself while I worked in that field.
I do think about the disparity between what I make as a dancer and what, say, an elementary school substitute teacher (my last job-- talk about thankless and stressful) is paid. Not to be aware of that would be a little selfish and a little naive. I wouldn't say we should feel guilty, though. We're not the ones who set the pay scale. A lot of difficult, valuable jobs aren't well compensated. Dancing happens to be a difficult job that *is* well compensated.
Maybe what the OP feels isn't exactly guilt so much as a desire to give something back. It's a worthy impulse. Dancing's a job that gives us a lot of money and a lot of free time. Have you thought about donating some of that time or money to a cause you believe in?
madmaxine
04-19-2007, 08:57 AM
Child Care Workers especiall Child Care Assistants! The ONLY reason I didn't persue being a Child Care Assistant and working in the Child Care Industry is because of the shit pay. I made more working in a cafe (in Hospitality not including tips) than I would have as a Child Care Assistant. Alot of Child Care Workers are burnt out by the time they are 25 years of age after starting the profession/industry at 18-20 years of age.
:rotfl:
One of my best pals is a Teacher's Aide she says the funniest things about being burned-out on the job (nothing bad, it's just funny to hear her talk...) She makes way too little for what she puts up with....I am currently trying to get her to work with me because I feel like she'd be happier & wealthier doing something else.
(Just had to add that- note to parents, tell your kids not to sass their teachers and associated caregivers- otherwise your kid becomes a gossip story later:P )
Alaska
04-19-2007, 09:19 AM
not to be rude but this is the dumbest thread in sw history
mmm hmmm
Young girls pre-college and post-college too have it the hardest imo....this is a bad economy, and I've always found walking into a new job, women have to be a bitch to get respect, we are automatically disrespected--women are sizing us up and men want to fuck us. Men on the other hand get instant respect, until they prove they're not worthy of it, and even then...
Yea I just feel lucky to be using what I got, glad to have it, and vindicated for all the bullshit disrespect I've gotten in the past for being a chick, a hot chick, female, young, etc.
Circe
04-19-2007, 10:24 AM
Umm no. Maybe if I were president of Disney or Exxon...
There's a lot of people that get paid lots and those doing more important work that don't. I feel blessed and appeciate the chance to make money this way, but I'm not exploiting others or ruining the environment so I don't feel terrible about it.
I also agree with what MadMaxine wrote. When you've grown up really poor, when you do get money it feels like a balance is finally being struck.
scarlett_vancouver
04-19-2007, 12:29 PM
It's not a dumb thread at all.
I do think about the disparity between what I make as a dance and what, say, an elementary school substitute teacher (my last job-- talk thanklessness about stress) is paid. Not to be aware of that would be a little selfish and a little naive.
Exactly. But not a little- very. And not naive, ignorant.
BalletBaby
04-19-2007, 01:05 PM
not to be rude but this is the dumbest thread in sw history
No, that would be Dick Pics:P
missjzone
04-19-2007, 01:14 PM
why would we feel greedy. Keep in mind of shelf life is short. we wont be able to do what we're doing for a long while unlike a person who works a 9to5er and can do their job till they retire. we have to bank now.
sun child
04-19-2007, 02:26 PM
Very good point. We HAVE to bank now. There's no point in feeling bad. Our survival depends on our income!
thegreatdame
04-20-2007, 10:06 AM
LOL I looooooooooove the responses to this girls!!
I personally don't like making less than 200/night. Our jobs are far from easy. The stress levels of dealing with bitchy women, cheap men and the constant acting we do should all be a reason for us being nominated and receiving oscar, tony and even grammy awards.
I wanted to read some of your views in relation to my some of my feelings when I see associates of mine struggling. Not to undermine my struggle one bit. Every dollar I make is accounted for 3 times over.
So, when stars holler about "More money, more problems", I say bring the more money on. Hell, I'll handle the issues associated with that.
flickad
04-20-2007, 06:34 PM
Not at all. I made my choice, just as others have made theirs.
gingerlee
04-20-2007, 07:07 PM
I don't feel guilty from making good money at work. I work my ass off for that money!
dangerousdiva
04-22-2007, 03:31 AM
No! I've worked more than a few 9-5's and you can never compare the two. The mental pressure you can get from a dayjob isn't nothing like the mental pressure of being a dancer and vice versa.
That's like saying a person who make $250,000 in his dayjob does he feel guilty for the man who only makes $28,000/year? Of course not
I totally agree!
mollyzmoon
04-22-2007, 07:08 AM
I think also that this job isn't really doing anything for us besides the pay-off. I mean that there are some jobs of intrinsic value, where you can feel that you are doing something of human value and worthiness...that doesn't mean that these jobs are not criminally underpaid, but it does offer some kind of alternate compensation. Working as a nurse, in this country anyway, is more of a humanitarian act than 'for the money'. Lapdancing, not so much. I think that often, even highly paid doctors wouldn't continue on in their field of work unless a part of them genuinely felt they were 'giving something back'.
So maybe there is a feeling something akin to 'selfishness' insofar as this job isn't really for the benefit of other people...I mean, the guys are probably happy to be entertained in such a way, but to say that dancing is contributing to the 'greater good' is a stretch.
That's always been my theory of why some jobs happen to have so much of a pay-off...People wouldn't be drawn to do some of this work unless it did happen to pay so much money. People are drawn to worthy social causes because they care. Adam Smith's invisible hand, very crudely put, or something.
I mean, I feel guilty as hell about the world wide distribution of wealth. It sucks that some people are starving after working themselves into the ground, whereas others have more money than they know what to do with...and it's all really a matter of luck and circumstance. That is pretty shitty, and I'm not a communist either. Like I said before, nothing alleviates my guilt (that I live where I do, and that I've had the life that I've had) like donating to Unicef and Oxfam. Just my two cents.