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Melvis
04-19-2007, 12:55 AM
has anybody watched the video online? he compares himself to jesus!

That dude was seriously disturbed.

But on the real... if dude was completely that far gone, how come no one said/did anything about it? Was he the greatest actor of all-time? Or are we just an apathetic nation, looking out for #1?

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And not to sound insensitive, but I was laughing for a good 5 minutes watching his video manifesto. How can that dude sound so uncannily like Napoleon Dynamite?

PookaShell
04-19-2007, 12:59 AM
He had written some really disturbing papers and scripts that his English teacher reported to authorities in case there was a chance of a threat, and apparently the day before this happened before he came to class his english class and the professor were discussing whether he were capable of this type of event.

When she reported it nothing was done, freedom of speech or something.

manchester
04-19-2007, 04:01 AM
Even in countries that are highly regulated where citizens cannot by guns, people are murdered with guns. The Mayor of Nagasaki, Japan was killed yesterday by a criminal with a gun. Great Britain and Ireland have problems with guns imported from Eastern European countres for profit. The criminal is responsible for the criminal act. Harsh punishment should follow. I advocate old fashioned public hanging.


This is true, but please check your statistics.

according to
texansforgunsafety.org
at a rate per 100,000 people -


there are 10,828 homicides in america involving guns.
in japan? 27.

let me repeat.

TEN THOUSAND.
vs
27.




If this guy wanted to kill people he could have just as easliy done it with a knife. This guy may have been fucked up but he knew what he was doing. It has nothing to do with his weapon of choice.

I may be getting off topic here but as a gun owner I have a problem with that comment. It's not the gun it's the person who uses it.

dude. i don't care if you're chuck norris-
YOU SIMPLY DO NOT KILL 30 PEOPLE WITH A KNIFE.

at least someone or a group of persons can overthrow you when you have a knife, hell, all the students in one room could have probably disarmed him real quick if it was just a knife. pleeease. there's absolutely no argument here.

contrary to popular belief, not only do "people kill people" but, newsflash, GUNS KILL PEOPLE TOO. What was that line from Grindhouse, "You point it at what you want to die"? I shouldn't even have to argue this point, it's so obvious. Guns kill people. The more guns you have, the more people will die. Simple equation. Pardon me, "right to bear arms", but i would gladly sacrifice my upstanding citizen's right to bear arms if only to ensure that the arms never fell into the wrong hands. perhaps then we wouldn't feel like we need a right to bear them in the first place.

Please don't get me wrong - I understand even if there were a complete ban on guns, the motherfuckers crazy enough to really want to do this crap would find a way to do it, but do you honestly feel like something on this scale could have been accomplished without some sort of mass-firing, automatic weapon? murder and violence takes two factors - a motive and a means. it would not stop ALL of these incidents, but i bet our homicide rate would no longer be THOUSANDS higher than any other country in the world.

i personally, cannot wait for the political, finger-pointing backlash. oh yeah, its video games and marilyn manson (or should we update for 2007 and say "my chemical romance" made him do it?). please. i think those of us with a brain can safely call it "mental instability" rather than "rock star/video game fandom". of all the music fans and gamers running around you think we would have had a lot more of these shootings, if that was the true cause.

hey america, why don't you point your finger where the blame TRULY is? Like, perhaps, the sick mind of a twisted, disturbed individual and our country's eager willingness to give him the means by which to carry out his horrific fantasy.

Roulette
04-19-2007, 05:06 AM
I don't know if anyones already said this, I didn't read every post, but there was a girl that was either injured but not killed, or just was in the building but didn't get killed or something - but she was also a survivor at Columbine. Isn't that terrifying? I would never walk into a school again.

This is such a disgusting event.

Holy shit, Pooka, where did you find that out? That is terrible!! Yeah what's up online courses. Oh my word, poor girl!!


This is true, but please check your statistics.

according to
texansforgunsafety.org
at a rate per 100,000 people -


there are 10,828 homicides in america involving guns.
in japan? 27.

let me repeat.

TEN THOUSAND.
vs
27.





dude. i don't care if you're chuck norris-
YOU SIMPLY DO NOT KILL 30 PEOPLE WITH A KNIFE.

at least someone or a group of persons can overthrow you when you have a knife, hell, all the students in one room could have probably disarmed him real quick if it was just a knife. pleeease. there's absolutely no argument here.

contrary to popular belief, not only do "people kill people" but, newsflash, GUNS KILL PEOPLE TOO. What was that line from Grindhouse, "You point it at what you want to die"? I shouldn't even have to argue this point, it's so obvious. Guns kill people. The more guns you have, the more people will die. Simple equation. Pardon me, "right to bear arms", but i would gladly sacrifice my upstanding citizen's right to bear arms if only to ensure that the arms never fell into the wrong hands. perhaps then we wouldn't feel like we need a right to bear them in the first place.

Please don't get me wrong - I understand even if there were a complete ban on guns, the motherfuckers crazy enough to really want to do this crap would find a way to do it, but do you honestly feel like something on this scale could have been accomplished without some sort of mass-firing, automatic weapon? murder and violence takes two factors - a motive and a means. it would not stop ALL of these incidents, but i bet our homicide rate would no longer be THOUSANDS higher than any other country in the world.

i personally, cannot wait for the political, finger-pointing backlash. oh yeah, its video games and marilyn manson (or should we update for 2007 and say "my chemical romance" made him do it?). please. i think those of us with a brain can safely call it "mental instability" rather than "rock star/video game fandom". of all the music fans and gamers running around you think we would have had a lot more of these shootings, if that was the true cause.

hey america, why don't you point your finger where the blame TRULY is? Like, perhaps, the sick mind of a twisted, disturbed individual and our country's eager willingness to give him the means by which to carry out his horrific fantasy.

you said everything I wanted to and better. Wow. I applaud you!!

thefrog
04-19-2007, 07:00 AM
guns--knifes--guns--knifes.... wtf----

-- 32 people are dead-- can we talk about that another day.

drewcifer
04-19-2007, 07:28 AM
I have watched "Bowling For Columbine" and the rest of Michael Moore's documentaries. I suggest them to everyone, especially now. There is a stark contrast in our gun control laws in the US and that of other countries, and hence, shocking statictics of murder rates in the US compared with other countries. When I heard of this shooting, I was in the post office with at least 30 other people, and while I was crying, no one else really seemed to care. The 2 men in front of me were saying how the victims were so stupid not to have jumped out of a window or knocked the guy down. I was so pissed, they actually laughed at me because they saw me crying and asked if I knew someone at Virginia Tech. I have watched the videos he sent to NBC, and yes, he seems mentally disturbed, but no one who should have been singled out and sent to a mental institution before this incident. I don't know what his motives were, but I am so sad for the people who lost their lives and their families.

Susan-Va
04-19-2007, 07:35 AM
I've been reading all the post and there's so much to say. A friend of mine left this comment on myspace and I think he sums it up pretty well, IMO.

Thoughts on VT from a UVA Grad: Body: First off I am very proud of the way the entire state (especially other state schools UVA/W and M/U of R/VCU etc.) have supported VT. Proud but not at all surprised.

Secondly I think it is admirable the way the VT students have for the most part resisted the prodding by the media (CNN, Fox, NBC, ABC etc.) to dump blame on President Steger and the VT Police for the handling of this event. There will be plenty of time for blame and retrospection of this tragedy. It is almost sickening to see reporters attempt to turn a time of mouring into an occassion for advancing an agenda Left or Right-wing.

Finally, this was a selfish act by a selfish person that would not have been prevented by more Gun Control (Left-wing) or armed faculty members (Right-wing). This person decided that he didn't like his life and wanted to end it, and as many others as possible before any other individuals with guns (the Police) could deal with him. If he didn't get a gun from a store he could have used his 5-weeks of waiting/plotting and found some thug in some alley to sell him the guns out of the back of a Cadillac.

I hope all of us will pay closer attention to people who seem distressed, bothered and disturbed and take ALL threats seriously because they are.

God Bless, Go Hokies, Go Hoos


G.

britt244
04-19-2007, 08:51 AM
guns--knifes--guns--knifes.... wtf----

-- 32 people are dead-- can we talk about that another day.

THANK YOU.

and yes, if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?

shakti
04-19-2007, 08:59 AM
guns--knifes--guns--knifes.... wtf----

-- 32 people are dead-- can we talk about that another day.

Unfortunately, this is the time things like this need to be discussed. When things are calm we just glaze over, which would be fine if it didn't keep happening again, and again, and again. Out of respect for your thread, this will be my last post.

sc0101
04-19-2007, 09:01 AM
Humans are violent. To act like this is actually something new is naive. Guns just make death more fast and less painful. Taking away pieces of metal isn't going to stop the problem, it's a problem ingrained in humans. Just think back to when we didn't have guns, we were fucking brutal. So brutal it makes being shot down with a gun seem like a pleasant death. Violence will never stop, if someone is mentally disturbed enough to do this, he'll pick up a chemistry book and make a home made bomb, or something of the like. That could kill a hell of a lot more people than a glock. We're a violent, senseless species, ruled by emotions and ego. We won't ever change.

seraya
04-19-2007, 09:13 AM
Unfortunately, this is the time things like this need to be discussed. When things are calm we just glaze over, which would be fine if it didn't keep happening again, and again, and again. Out of respect for your thread, this will be my last post.Yes but not in THIS thread there are umpteen threads all over SW on gun control, gun violence etc... besides political arguments do not belong in this forum.

Please guys can we just stick to the topic at hand - the tragedy that occured!

it is just so fucking disrespectful.

ResQ
04-19-2007, 10:43 AM
Humans are violent. To act like this is actually something new is naive. Guns just make death more fast and less painful. Taking away pieces of metal isn't going to stop the problem, it's a problem ingrained in humans. Just think back to when we didn't have guns, we were fucking brutal. So brutal it makes being shot down with a gun seem like a pleasant death. Violence will never stop, if someone is mentally disturbed enough to do this, he'll pick up a chemistry book and make a home made bomb, or something of the like. That could kill a hell of a lot more people than a glock. We're a violent, senseless species, ruled by emotions and ego. We won't ever change.

Great post. Fire bombs could have easily killed many more in a much wore way. A single sword could have done more damage even.



contrary to popular belief, not only do "people kill people" but, newsflash, GUNS KILL PEOPLE TOO. What was that line from Grindhouse, "You point it at what you want to die"? I shouldn't even have to argue this point, it's so obvious. Guns kill people. The more guns you have, the more people will die. Simple equation. Pardon me, "right to bear arms", but i would gladly sacrifice my upstanding citizen's right to bear arms if only to ensure that the arms never fell into the wrong hands. perhaps then we wouldn't feel like we need a right to bear them in the first place.


hey america, why don't you point your finger where the blame TRULY is? Like, perhaps, the sick mind of a twisted, disturbed individual and our country's eager willingness to give him the means by which to carry out his horrific fantasy.

It would be impossible for you to contridict yourself any more. You blame guns and then say you have to blame the person. When a killer intentionaly runs someone over with a car we dont blame the car. It has no brane and cant drive itself. Much like a gun cant fire itself or aim itself.

A sick person decided to kill a bunch of people. the only thing to blame is him. No matter if we banned every gun every thing with an edge, and everything with an engine he would have found a way.

Roulette
04-19-2007, 10:52 AM
Great
It would be impossible for you to contridict yourself any more. You blame guns and then say you have to blame the person. When a killer intentionaly runs someone over with a car we dont blame the car. It has no brane and cant drive itself. Much like a gun cant fire itself or aim itself.

A sick person decided to kill a bunch of people. the only thing to blame is him. No matter if we banned every gun every thing with an edge, and everything with an engine he would have found a way.

I think she's just trying to say that the ease with which we are able to obtain guns makes it a hell of a lot easier for this sort of thing to happen, not that guns kill people, oh wait no people do. I think the point was it is in human nature to be violent and when people are messed up enough to act out these violent thoughts it is made a lot easier due to the availability to obtain the weapons needed. Be it guns, knives, whatever.... I dont think it was contradictory.

Also a car is made to get someone to point B from point A a gun is made specifically to kill or injure. There is a huge difference between the two and to compare the deaths of someoen hit by a car and someone hit by a bullet is comparing oranges to apples. i mean anything can be a weapon if you want it to be. There are people who've been killed by frozen sausages... we're not trying to make them harder to obtain because they are not made with the sole purpose of harming others in mind.

ResQ
04-19-2007, 11:15 AM
This will be my last post in this thread about guns.

They are absolutely NOT made for the sole purpose of injury or death. Not by a long shot. I suggest you go to some shooting events and do some research to learn something about them prior to making such a bold claim.

The post i said was contridictory IS. She says "GUNS KILL PEOPLE TOO" By that statement so do cars, rollercoasters, airplanes, toaster ovens, fast food joints. The list is endless.

thefrog
04-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Unfortunately, this is the time things like this need to be discussed. When things are calm we just glaze over, which would be fine if it didn't keep happening again, and again, and again.
Out of respect for your thread, this will be my last post.

discussed yes but maybe in a different thread?? i dont know i just think a different thread would be better.

No please dont stop posting in this thread. Sharing are thoughts and feelings with each other is why we are here. right ??

just a thought should i change the title to this thread ? something like 32 students killed . ??

Emily
04-19-2007, 11:19 AM
you can't change the thread title....only the mod can and she's away

Pamela
04-19-2007, 11:25 AM
discussed yes but maybe in a different thread?? i dont know i just think a different thread would be better.

No please dont stop posting in this thread. Sharing are thoughts and feelings with each other is why we are here. right ??

just a thought should i change the title to this thread ? something like 32 students killed . ??

I agree talking about it, helps bring closure to us too. Damn, he could have went more hi-tech and walked in the college with numerous bombs on him and took out hundreds of people. Guns are easier. He wanted to kill, he would have gotten what he needed off the street just as easy.

People kill. A gun does not walk in a college. I own and love guns. More guns are bought for hunting (last i heard) than personal protection.

Anyway. May he NOT rest. He was a selfish FUCK.

That is the difference between people who don't have sick minds owning guns, (we wont go on a shooting spree) and the sick fucks who do, HIM.

He did not want fame. He wanted revenge, against society. >:(

thefrog
04-19-2007, 11:36 AM
you can't change the thread title....only the mod can and she's away

ok thanks Emily. i didnt know.

snoopy
04-19-2007, 11:51 AM
He did not want fame. He wanted revenge, against society. >:(i disagree. i think he wanted attention and the infamy, hence the video.

that's one of the reasons why i refuse to listen/watch his video garbage. why does a sick fuck like that get to air his manifesto while the innocents and heroes he gunned down are silenced? they should've burned that tape and denied him his chance to speak just like he's denied his victims their chance at life.

fuck the little pos and his juvenile narcissistic rantings. yeah, he was probably mentally unstable and life dealt him harsh. eff 'im.

i've seen much more hurt just on this forum than that little pansy has "endured". wimp. he should've eaten his bullet first and saved everyone a lotta of grief. selfish prick.

Pamela
04-19-2007, 12:18 PM
i disagree. i think he wanted attention and the infamy, hence the video.

that's one of the reasons why i refuse to listen/watch his video garbage. why does a sick fuck like that get to air his manifesto while the innocents and heroes he gunned down are silenced? they should've burned that tape and denied him his chance to speak just like he's denied his victims their chance at life.

fuck the little pos and his juvenile narcissistic rantings. yeah, he was probably mentally unstable and life dealt him harsh. eff 'im.

i've seen much more hurt just on this forum than that little pansy has "endured". wimp. he should've eaten his bullet first and saved everyone a lotta of grief. selfish prick.

I agree with what you say as well. We will never know. But some (very little) "taunt" the system not for fame, but because they hate, and want to hurt, (mass killers). I would think he hoped that video got played for the world just as a last fuck you. He was a mass killer, they don't normally want fame, they just want the last word and to kill. I highly doubt he was thinking of fame, he was very very angry. Unlike Serial Killers who "play" with us over a long period of time. Mass killers go off quick and hate all even themselves, they feel wronged by society. Serial Killers love what they do, and many seem to love themselves. It's a game.
This sick prick played no game, i belive even with that video, he wanted us all to know he had enough, and damage was going to be done. Mass killers usually kill themselves as well. Serial killers want fame, it's rare they will kill themselves, they talk to the media, and request a nice cell etc. They write books, or have many interviews (thier request) for a book to be written about them.

That is a difference. This was a kid who went wrong. Serial killers, are highly clever people, IQ,s ubove average.

Two different types of killers. But all sick just the same.

snoopy
04-19-2007, 12:26 PM
I would think he hoped that video got played for the world just as a last fuck you. He was a mass killer, they don't normally want fame, they just want the last word and to kill. I highly doubt he was thinking of fame, he was very very angry.agreed, i wasn't thinking fame as much as the "last word" issue like you brought up.

i just don't want to give the pos the last word. to paraphrase my VT friend, i'd rather piss on his grave than give him the attention/satisfaction. although she was much more graphic regarding her defilement of the prick's body at the morgue. }:D

PookaShell
04-19-2007, 12:27 PM
It would be nice to say, hey lets get rid of all the guns.....but it would never happen, it would just take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. Look how easy drugs are to get.

DB Cooper
04-19-2007, 12:34 PM
This is true, but please check your statistics.

according to
texansforgunsafety.org
at a rate per 100,000 people -


there are 10,828 homicides in america involving guns.
in japan? 27.

let me repeat.

TEN THOUSAND.
vs
27.



10,828 homicides per 100,000 people would mean 30 million homicides a year in the US. 10,828 is the total, the rate per 100,000 is listed as 3.97. For more recent stats see http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html about 3/4 of the way down the page.

Roulette
04-19-2007, 12:39 PM
This will be my last post in this thread about guns.

They are absolutely NOT made for the sole purpose of injury or death. Not by a long shot. I suggest you go to some shooting events and do some research to learn something about them prior to making such a bold claim.

The post i said was contridictory IS. She says "GUNS KILL PEOPLE TOO" By that statement so do cars, rollercoasters, airplanes, toaster ovens, fast food joints. The list is endless.

you're right. I will look into it, but not now, I dont have the patients. From my view point as of right now, having not looked into it guns are for killing and injuring. If your argument is that they are also for protection I still consider that someone has bought it with the intent to use on someone else in case of extreme emergency, which is injury. I am torn but mostly I agree with the right to bear arms. But I think that the type of weapons that should be legal needs to be drastically reviewed. Who needs a semi automatic hand gun? I think that everyone who owns a gun (legally) needs to have a minimum of X hours of training in using the gun. I think that if you are going to own a gun checks should be done to ensure that it is being kept in a safe place. I mean there are a lot of things I think need to be done to reform the ownership of guns and gun control. And I agree that I do not know much about the subject. I don't think it's fair to say that felons cannot own guns. Not all felons are violent people. I know some very violent people who have served many years in jail but not prison and were never convicted of a felon, but I do not think they should ever own a gun. I think who was it? Chris Rock had it right when he said we need to make bullets hella expensive. This is a country founded on the idea that everyone has a right to bear arms. That law is not changing any time soon, I see that, but I do think reform is desperately in need.


It would be nice to say, hey lets get rid of all the guns.....but it would never happen, it would just take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. Look how easy drugs are to get.

I heart you. And I think most drugs should be legal, just like I think prostitution should be. It would be safer for most everyone involved.

Pamela
04-19-2007, 12:47 PM
agreed, i wasn't thinking fame as much as the "last word" issue like you brought up.

i just don't want to give the pos the last word. to paraphrase my VT friend, i'd rather piss on his grave than give him the attention/satisfaction. although she was much more graphic regarding her defilement of the prick's body at the morgue. }:D

Highly agree! And i will piss on his grave with you! >:(

Susan-Va
04-19-2007, 09:35 PM
THANK YOU.

and yes, if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?

What about the guy that put cyanide in the tylenol bottles in the 80's, and don't forget, Jim Jones killed over 900 with "kool aid".

ArmySGT.
04-19-2007, 10:07 PM
From the texansforgunsafety.org website the half assed and incompletely quoted statistic.


Homicides Population (in millions) Rate per 100,000

United States
10,828 272 3.97
Canada
183 31 0.59
Germany
103 82 0.13
England & Wales
73 52 0.14
Australia
65 19 0.34
Switzerland
36 7 0.51
Sweden
33 9 0.37
Austria
27 8 0.34
Japan
27 127 0.02
New Zealand
3 4 0.15

Whats missing? Nations that are not part of the first world and the G8 summit. Eastern European Nations such as Russia and Poland. Heck I am curious about Taiwan and China. What about Thailand?

England & Wales? What about Scotland and Northern Ireland? There part of Great Britain as well or would their inclusion have mad GB look bad?

Next why is this information several years old? Does the current stats make America look better and the organization doesn't like that or are they intellectually lazy.

Manchester, If you would like to quote something to support your argument thats fine, misrepresenting the data to support you argument is reprehensible, discredits you and your argument.

ArmySGT.
04-19-2007, 10:10 PM
THANK YOU.

and yes, if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?




The actual worst slaying on a school campus in American history.

PrettyCurlieQ
04-21-2007, 06:01 PM
...if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?
excellent point, and one obviosly ignored by the media at this point..::)

mollyzmoon
04-21-2007, 07:49 PM
Humans are violent... We won't ever change.

But we have changed. We're changing all the time. We're inventing new and better ways to destroy ourselves and everything we can reach, while also coming up with relentless improvements on entertainment. I mean, now we can have our cake and pop in the "Ghandi" DVD too.

I don't think we need to be as violent as we are. We (kind of...in some places, to some extent) abolished slavery, and (kind of...working on it, some of us) improved gender/ race equality. Saying we can't ethically evolve is not true. There are groups of people who are pacifists through and through. The Amish, for instance. I believe in pacifism on principle. I would rather be shot than shoot someone, always. But change takes a damn long time, and human progress is a two steps forward, one and half steps back kinda deal. With what we've got on hand right now, including all the weapons, resource consumption, and blind race into genetic engineering, chances are we're done before we're smart enough to stop the nonsense. Neitzsche would be proud.

What I think is our most unfortunate trait: our selective empathy. This will always be our downfall.

Senseless slaughter of innocent people like this? It happens EVERY SINGLE DAY IN AFRICA...at other times Russia, Cambodia...

But right now, this week, hundreds, maybe more, Sudanese refugees are going to be tortured and slaughtered. With guns, machetes.

The difference is, and the only difference is that these people are farther away than the victims in Virginia.

But how can we live with that kind of empathetic emotion every day, for everyone? We can't. So it doesn't register unless you can get some kind of emotional hook.

That's why I find ethical psychology so interesting, but also distressing.

MojoJojo
04-21-2007, 08:13 PM
I probably wouldn't react as I would like to if someone had a bigass gun pointed at me.....but in that situation....if everyone runs at the shooter....ultimately everyone's going to be better off than if they scatter and wait to get shot. Go after the bastard. Everyone THROW something...attack his ass. You'll have a better change.

But again....I'm sure I wouldn't think that way with a 9mm pointed at me.

JettaNyx
04-27-2007, 07:13 PM
this is why i dont follow the news...they only seem to report death. i'll admit i havnt been followint the cituation too much. but my hubby was in a dr office waiting room for 1 1/2 hours and watched cnn the whole time...no comerical breaks just complete coverage the other week on this. he ws with his mom..whom was born & raised in ireland. she leaned over and told him, "you'll never see thsi in england."
"what? the shootings?"
"oh, no. the IRA does that every single day, you just won't see coverage of it."
that brings a point...we cover it non stop for as long as rating last. i promise you in 6 months we'll have another shooting and it will be worse. its liek they keep trying to one up another. but he did tell me the stoy of the teacher whom made sure his students got out of the room. he took ever single bullet for them. there are heros everyday, soem stand otu more than others. i sincerly beife this man deserves a purple heart. sadly all hell get is a heart felt thanks from hsi students and maybe...if lucky..a palque. (sorry wee drunk over ehre) but since i heard that story i keep having a poem in my mind. ihad to rememer and recite it in middle school...since its nagging at me i've decided to post it....for our everyday heros..who risk and give their lives



O Captain! My Captain!


O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done;
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won;
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,

Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.



O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills; 10
For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding;
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
Here Captain! dear father!
This arm beneath your head;

It is some dream that on the deck,
You’ve fallen cold and dead.



My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;
The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;
From fearful trip, the victor ship, comes in with object won; 20
Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells!
But I, with mournful tread,

Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

Roulette
04-29-2007, 09:21 PM
^^^ That makes me think of an Irish friend of mine. He used to sing it.