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Jenny
04-22-2007, 04:31 PM
Well she can just hire a massage therapist who will bring her to orgasm with his fingers, with no coital penetration though, right?

FBR
04-22-2007, 04:33 PM
Well she can just hire a massage therapist who will bring her to orgasm with his fingers, with no coital penetration though, right?

hahahha

touche'

I am out-ironied :)

FBR

xdamage
04-22-2007, 05:16 PM
I think it goes with the territory FBR, but FWIW, what we don't know often doesn't hurt us.

Katrine
04-22-2007, 05:24 PM
Kat, define a "few". I mean if its..like..3..thats a commensurate payback but beyond that I'm gonna fight it

FBR

Why fight it? Are you going to man up to the challenge if yourself if her sexdrive suddently takes off?

Hypocrisy.

FBR
04-22-2007, 05:41 PM
Why fight it? Are you going to man up to the challenge if yourself if her sexdrive suddently takes off?

Hypocrisy.

Kat, I know you think I'm a hypocrite...clearly. I'm not saying I would like it if she banged the pool boy but if she did I would hope that she wouldn't write him into the will even if the sex is incredible for her. I mean, we have the kids to consider and their righteous indignation would be understandable. I doubt they would want to sit around a table at the lawyers office and wonder who the fuck is this dude?

FBR

xdamage
04-22-2007, 06:04 PM
Who knows these days FBR, for all we know our women are already banging the poolboy, the pizzaboy, the paperboy, the mailboy, we just don't know, and probably we would never know unless they want us to know. As long as they don't bring home anything to infect us with, it's probably all we can hope for. My guess is women screw around as much as guys, and it only hurts if we find out.

Katrine
04-22-2007, 09:47 PM
Kat, I know you think I'm a hypocrite...clearly. I'm not saying I would like it if she banged the pool boy but if she did I would hope that she wouldn't write him into the will even if the sex is incredible for her. I mean, we have the kids to consider and their righteous indignation would be understandable. I doubt they would want to sit around a table at the lawyers office and wonder who the fuck is this dude?

FBR

WTF? Who is talking about integrating your fucksontheside into the family's estate plan? Is Miss D in your will? That is neither here nor there.

jaybo10572
04-23-2007, 02:04 AM
With all this talk about pool boys, pizza boys, and mail men, why don't we all just have a career change and sooner or later we might beable to actually come to a place where sex is enjoyable with just one partner, the one we married

Katrine
04-23-2007, 09:32 AM
With all this talk about pool boys, pizza boys, and mail men, why don't we all just have a career change and sooner or later we might beable to actually come to a place where sex is enjoyable with just one partner, the one we married

What does this have to do with our respective careers? Most of us are in a diverse range of careers that have little to do with our sex lives.....

Did you even read the thread?

Vyanka
04-23-2007, 09:52 AM
I have this theory that who we want to fuck and who we want to settle down with are often not the same thing.

My SO was like this - bored with most guys. The way to get her attention? Act like a narcissistic asshole. Fortunately she outgrew it, but hey, as long as women flock to guys like this they are going to be around (and it's not really a big deal to a younger guy that the relationship only lasts for a few weeks - there is always another girl who is going to be attracted to the overtop narcissist).


I wasn't attracted to his personality at all, he was a really good looking male model. I was 21 yrs. old, and use to be shallow as hell back then that I tried ignoring it, lol. Yeah, I def. knew he wasn't going to be settling down materials, but def. fling worthy.

I'm older and wiser now. ;)

Vyanka
04-23-2007, 10:00 AM
BTW, women are more slicker than men will ever be. If she's not in the mood and you're not giving her sex, chances are she's def. getting it some where else. ;) :P

xdamage
04-23-2007, 10:23 AM
I wasn't attracted to his personality at all, he was a really good looking male model. I was 21 yrs. old, and use to be shallow as hell back then that I tried ignoring it, lol. Yeah, I def. knew he wasn't going to be settling down materials, but def. fling worthy.

I'm older and wiser now. ;)

Guys do it too of course, get attracted to the hot looking girl, even if her personality sucks. But it was just an observation when I was younger that a lot of women seem to be terribly attracted to the over-the-top narcissist type. I do think that they grow out of it, just when they are young and looking more for thrills, that type of male attracts a lot of females. Some guys really are that way. For me it was more of an effort, but as little sense as it made to me at the time, it seemed that the worse I'd treat some women they more attracted they were. Crazy.

As for your other comment about women being slick ... could well be. I really doubt I'd be able to tell if she was cheating if she didn't want to me know.

Vyanka
04-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Guys do it too of course, get attracted to the hot looking girl, even if her personality sucks. But it was just an observation when I was younger that a lot of women seem to be terribly attracted to the over-the-top narcissist type. I do think that they grow out of it, just when they are young and looking more for thrills, that type of male attracts a lot of females. Some guys really are that way. For me it was more of an effort, but as little sense as it made to me at the time, it seemed that the worse I'd treat some women they more attracted they were. Crazy.

As for your other comment about women being slick ... could well be. I really doubt I'd be able to tell if she was cheating if she didn't want to me know.

Yeah, girls like that challenge no matter what other qualities or attractive he is. I personally find that shit ghey, but with that guy I let that slide. He was sweet with me at first anyway.

Yeah, I wasn't speaking from experience just observation. ;) Some females have thier shit on lock.

yoda57us
04-23-2007, 12:36 PM
With all this talk about pool boys, pizza boys, and mail men, why don't we all just have a career change and sooner or later we might beable to actually come to a place where sex is enjoyable with just one partner, the one we married

One partner? At a time? No problem. Forever? You're kidding right?

mr_punk
04-26-2007, 04:52 PM
BTW, women are more slicker than men will ever be. If she's not in the mood and you're not giving her sex, chances are she's def. getting it some where else.someone else to take up the slack? <shrug>sounds convenient. i mean, i'm careful not to spread myself too thin, but there are moments it does happen. still, one can't very well come out and say, "uh..no sexy time tonight, baby. the tank is dry. i had two cups of coffee this afternoon with a FBSM and before i came home. i stopped by the sc for a quickie with my favorite fellatrix..er..dancer".

Nicolina
05-28-2007, 01:15 PM
A lot.

Sh0t
06-06-2007, 10:11 AM
Pussy isn't the currency girls think it is.

Mostly, we just want a hot girl to show off to people with. How good or bad you are in bed is just as irrelevant as what job you have or your education. You're a status symbol.

yoda57us
06-07-2007, 06:28 AM
Pussy isn't the currency girls think it is.

Mostly, we just want a hot girl to show off to people with. How good or bad you are in bed is just as irrelevant as what job you have or your education. You're a status symbol.

Nope, Uh Uh, sorry, not me... I want a hot woman in bed, a woman who challenges me intellectually, loves to have fun and who isn't high maintenance. I don't really care what she does for a living as long as she isn't viewing me as a meal ticket.
I could care less what others think of her or me.

xdamage
06-07-2007, 07:11 PM
^^^

Personally I think guys struggle with this. Pussy, aka sex, is a major motivator in so much that we do. Guys spend a whole lifetime improving their financial and social status to improve the odds at getting some. Some guys like Sh0t deal with it by writing it off as show-piece as a way of dealing with the slavery that sex can be. Others are totally pussy whipped. Others romanticize it, and more. I look at sex is the crack that makes the world go round.

Women do actually have a lot of power over men when it comes to pussy. But in the end, pussy is just pussy. It contributes little to the quality of life for everyone, and a guy that is completely pussy whipped or too focused on it risks not spending time on other things that are, in the long run, more important.

In some ways nothing is more sad then a dude who gives up his personality and potential to contribute to the future generations because he is obsessed over pussy. Like being obsessed over food, or taking a crap, or other biological drives, these things have their place, but there is more to life then fucking (if we want to use our brains for more).

Smart guys know, pussy is fun, pussy is good, but a guy that obsesses over it can end up being a slave to a biological function.

Sh0t
06-08-2007, 02:51 AM
The biological urge for sex is strong, but once you get a lot of it, it doesn't matter much. "There's no pussy like new pussy" so the draw of one woman(as in the TOPIC) is not a big deal.

Most guys obsess over it because they aren't getting any. But once that is remedied, women who walk around cunt first just seem childish.

It's not a matter of writing it off. It really isn't. Personally, I don't think most men enjoy sex that much, but they enjoy the validation from another conquest. The validation from banging xyz chick lasts a lot longer than the 5 second orgasm.

I'm obsessed with chasing pussy, but no pussies in particular. I'm pretty content to stop after I slide the panties off. Every time I have sex, the woman is getting the better end of the deal by far.

Men aren't slaves to sex or the physical act of intercourse. Masturbation easily relieves a lot of that pressure. They get addicted to the woman they are investing in and her approval. A woman giving you sex is the second highest form of approval she can give you, following birthing your child.

More specifically on the TOPIC, I think guys would hang a fat chick who is a great chick out to dry if some very hot woman told him to. Whether said hot girl or not is humping our poor chode, the validation from hot women is worth more than great sex from fat women or Texans.

xdamage
06-08-2007, 06:13 AM
Men aren't slaves to sex or the physical act of intercourse. Masturbation easily relieves a lot of that pressure. They get addicted to the woman they are investing in and her approval. A woman giving you sex is the second highest form of approval she can give you, following birthing your child.

To me I view the need for approval as a secondary emotion that has evolved. That is to say, fundamentally humans have evolved emotions and behaviors that exist because they work. Put another way, those with strong sex drives are more likely to procreate then those who don't, and so their genes are more likely to survive and thrive in the gene pool. However I suppose it's also valid to say that those with a strong desire to feel approved of by women via sex and childbearing are more likely to survive and thrive, so yea, whatever works to increase the chances of procreating and passing on genes is what works and what thrives.

My point was more that the biological drive to have sex is a deep seated, strongly evolved trait that drives men to do all kinds of things, like being nice, being successful, being aggressive, putting up with a lot of crap, obsessing over sex, whatever works to increase their chances of a woman having sex with them. Although we live in a funky time where birth control interferes with the natural outcome of sex, any of these behaviors that increase a guys chance to have sex increases the chances of them procreating and passing on their genes, which in turn increases the chance of passing on emotions and behaviors to future generations. The genes of course were never programmed with advanced birth control in mind, but birth control is very recent historically, and still most people in the world don't have access to BC. It will be a long time (millions of years) before our genes could adjust to BC.

Since I view human psychology as mostly a bi-product of evolved biological drives, to me it's just splitting hairs to focus on the psychological drives that we experience. I'm somewhat more interested in why/how those psychological drives exist, why did they evolve, why they are successful?? And in the biological view, women have a lot of power over men in general, because guys will do a lot and put up with a lot for sex. There is nothing really wrong with it, but ah yea, humans are capable of more then procreating if they want to use their intellect for more then getting some.

Sh0t
06-08-2007, 06:49 AM
Sure, but good enough to say, put up with her spilling milkshake all over the seats in your new car on a regular basis?

Or worse yet, spilling the discharge of some guy she has a bad habit of blowing in your car?

Katrine
06-08-2007, 04:44 PM
I somewhat agree with Sh0t, at least in the cases of most typical men. Think about how many men stick around with their average to unattractive girlfriends and spouses even though they are getting hot, kinky action on the side.

Most men don't care about the quality of the pussy enough to drop everything for it. Nor should they. Nor should women feel entitled to everything because they own one with an attractive, yet useless flap of skin surrounding it. You know, the woman. Ok, you all know that joke, I've made it a million times.

If it was all about the great sex, then baldypaunchguy would have left his plain-looking and terrible in bed girlfriend a long time ago for me. But he hasn't, and we're all friends at this point. Ultimately, it didn't matter that he couldn't last a minute with me whereas he couldn't get into it enough to come with her. That's just one example.

But instead of assuming all men want a hot piece to parade around, I'm going the opposite direction, and thinking that even average joe wants a comfortable relationship with a "nice, sweet girl" they can bring home to mom.

xdamage
06-08-2007, 11:20 PM
But instead of assuming all men want a hot piece to parade around, I'm going the opposite direction, and thinking that even average joe wants a comfortable relationship with a "nice, sweet girl" they can bring home to mom.

Or they want both if they can manage to juggle both.

Casual Observer
06-09-2007, 06:22 AM
Mostly, we just want a hot girl to show off to people with. How good or bad you are in bed is just as irrelevant as what job you have or your education. You're a status symbol.

Really disagree.

No question, I love being with the hottest chick(s) in the room--it's better than money or chemicals, but like most everything in life, this truism is appropo: while potential is interesting, performance is what counts.


Most men don't care about the quality of the pussy enough to drop everything for it. Nor should they.

Agreed. I have a long-term ladyfriend with whom sexual performance is not a problem, but if the opportunity for varied quality sex on the side presents itself in a mutually satisfying and convenient fashion, we're there. Granted, I have a non-traditional relationship (we both have occasional outside interests), but those are the key components for most men sexually in any relationship or no relationship--opportunity and convenience.

mr_punk
06-09-2007, 06:55 PM
The biological urge for sex is strong, but once you get a lot of it, it doesn't matter much. "There's no pussy like new pussy" so the draw of one woman(as in the TOPIC) is not a big deal.i have to agree on this point. there's nothing quite like a fresh piece of ass. the excitement of the unknown. the moment of anticipation before the act itself. the discovery of new sights. of course, much like the smell of a new car, eventually it wears off. you begin to notice she's a certified psychobiatch and the cycle begins anew.

mr_punk
06-10-2007, 12:55 PM
Right. After all Jay, you are a normal, well-adjusted kind human being. Remember, as Sh0t implied, the uncontrollable desire for a "new car smell" woman is driven by internal dissatisfaction and yearning for status symbol. I.E. bedwetters who can only feel happy through outside validation and are dead on the inside. Ok, perhaps I took that too far, but you know what I mean.LOL..just a tad bit. anyway, i'm not talking about an uncontrollable desire just a desire for variety. for instance, someone who would break up one serious relationship simply because they want to show off the shiny new toy. well, that's one thing. OTOH, if they discretely want to have their cake with a little ice cream on the side. well, that's something else.