View Full Version : girl at my club got fired for being fat!
A.n.a.l.a.
04-27-2007, 09:43 PM
/:O ok, was the heavy girl actually fat or just kind of thick? did she look 6th months pregnant like an average person or like 6th months pregnant the way heidi klum and denise richards did when they were pregnant (like they just ate a couple good meals but didn't look obviously pregnant)? regardless of your industry, public humiliation during the firing process is wrong. from what i understand by reading these threads and boards, even if you aren't the most glamorous or gorgeous you have to at least look as pretty and presentable as you can. so as sweet, charming, cute, etc. that you are- if you're like 5'3" and 230 lbs., you'll have some problems working at a good club at least. and being on the opposite end (6'0", 120 lbs. of skin and bones, no curves at all) should be difficult to get good gigs as well. you have to take care of yourself; be healthy and good looking. so being on crack, anorexic, obese, whatever isn't going to make you look as presentable as you can be. that's my opinion anyways.
gingerlee
04-27-2007, 09:59 PM
I'm sorry, but if you look 6 months pregnant and you aren't, then you should not be stripping. I work my ass off dancing and modeling, so why should girls who don't take care of themselves be allowed to do it?
ViolaStrings
04-28-2007, 12:22 AM
You know, this whole thread can be summed up with the wisdom of a bumper sticker:
NO FAT CHICKS.
jaizaine
04-28-2007, 02:06 AM
^^^^ hehehehe
Im surprised that girls that are way fat have the confidence to strip. i mean wouldnt they feel self conscious. i have heard customers talk about larger girls really loudly before.
i like the fact that even if someone doesnt find me attractive they cannot ever say i am not in shape and toned. i wouldnt be able to get up on that stage with rolls.
PrettyCurlieQ
04-28-2007, 02:28 AM
idk .. was she always fat, or did she let herself go after she was hired? if they hired her like that, then they shouldn't be firing her unless they're really cleaning house. but, as many posts point out, this business is highly looks-oriented. nobody wants to pay to see an ugly, fat girl dance around naked. well, maybe SOMEONE, but that's not the majority.
Now, mgmt doing this in front of everyone, that's not cool. In fact, that only shows how unprofessional your mgmt is. I'd hate to have a real issue and have to talk to THEM about resolving it. Good for you for looking for another club. (Did I just use 'for' three times in one sentence?!)
flickad
04-28-2007, 03:24 AM
^^^^ hehehehe
Im surprised that girls that are way fat have the confidence to strip. i mean wouldnt they feel self conscious. i have heard customers talk about larger girls really loudly before.
i like the fact that even if someone doesnt find me attractive they cannot ever say i am not in shape and toned. i wouldnt be able to get up on that stage with rolls.
I was stripping at one point when I was chubby. I was in deep denial about my body at the time, however.
Cally
04-28-2007, 03:27 AM
Hell I was chubby when I started.. but I knew it and worked my ass off to lose what I needed to lose..
christian211
04-28-2007, 04:07 AM
i've gotten put on "probation" for being "too big"... which means I couldn't go on stage (BIG DEAL) and i continued to make hella money. i don't think i'm big, i'm thick... but sometimes people have different perceptions of beauty and take it out on girls like me. I don't, however, look pregnant... so I could see where a girl looks pregnant that she would need to get the boot.
Corgan, w/ you, I think your face;) more than makes up for a couple of lbs you gotta lose. You're flawless.
I do agree, though, about the standards in SC these days. That level has to be brought up again.
mollyzmoon
04-28-2007, 09:02 AM
I dunno...I'm a curvier dancer, but I don't consider myself fat...Well, BMI has never been over 22, so it's not like I'm technically fat, but throw me in a sea of coked out eighteen year olds (like one club I work at), and yes I look thick.
Me? I don't care what anyone else who's dancing there looks like. And I remember once sitting with a guy who often got dances from me...he pointed to the girl on stage and said "god, where have your standards gone?". I said that I don't do the hiring. Then one of the thinnest girls there came on, with her fake boobs, and i said "there you go. Skinny." and he was all "she's got no ass. Gross..."
I mean, I can see where a lot of you are coming from, but a part of me does feel that if a girl is making money selling dances (not bjs), then well, maybe she really isn't so ugly or whatever.
Thick little me, I'm still a top earner...I kinda feel like my presence is justified. Firing her like that was unnecessary. It would have been nicer to pull her aside and ask her to lose 10 or 15 pounds or whatever, and then come back, if that's what they needed to do. As it stands, based on the firing conditions itself, I'm sure if she lost a few and came back, she'd be re-hired. But public humiliation is cruel...i can see why that would upset you.
I'm not saying everyone should be allowed to dance, and that clubs shouldn't have standards. Obviously they should.
But I'll say this: in all the clubs I've danced in, i have seen so many girls with so many different looks...I don't think dancing is as selective a club as some people here are saying it is. I've seen girls at supposedly the most selective club in the region who weren't all that great looking, objectively. I think almost any woman of a certain age could mold herself enough to strip somewhere. You DON"T have to be a beauty queen to be a stripper. A decent haircut, excercise, and some make-up go very far. Girls on campus at my school are, on average, far prettier than girls at strip clubs. Just my 2 cents.
Bridgette
04-28-2007, 04:37 PM
^ Um, as many have said in this thread and elsewhere on this site many times, there's a big difference between being thick and having a fat gut and/or fat rolls. If a chick looks 6 months pregnant, she's got way too much gut to be stripping. I am also a bit thick but my curves are proportionate and I have a flat stomach. LOTS of "thick" girls look great because their bodies are nicely shaped. Thick is fine and good (we need the variety); fat is bad.
This reminds me of a certain group of fat sloppy bitches I once encountered at work. Several of them had come in with ONE guy, like an after work office party. I dunno, I guess they wanted to be cool or something because they clearly weren't bi or into the strippers. Anyway, they wanted a dance from me and sent the guy to drag me from across the room to come over and dance. I danced for a couple of them and they whispered and snickered. Then one of them got really loud and yelled, "it's the black lights!! THAT's why they look so good! The BLACK LIGHTS are what makes these girls look so good!!!" At that point I quit dancing to collect my money and leave, all the while looking directly at the big fat gut and LARGE fat roll hanging over her pants. I wanted SO bad to tell her that NO hunny, it's not the blacklights you dumbass. NO amount of blacklights would EVER hide that bigass gut and fat roll hanging over YOUR pants!! ugh.
Cally
04-28-2007, 05:38 PM
Molly... YOU ARE NOT THICK OR FAT!!!!!! Holy shit girl I dont think you can pinch anywhere on your body... I wouldnt even consider you thick.. your built like I am and I sure as hell aint thick..
as_intended
04-28-2007, 07:55 PM
I only kinda half agree..... I mean if managements allowed to fire a girl for being overweight they might end u taking it to the next level like "No you have too much cellulite, um you have a stretch mark, your ears are too big, your mouth is too small" If anything management should have pulled her aside and approached her about trying to lose a bit of weight before firing her and publicly at that. All Im saying is there are a billion things that make a girl "unattractive" and the fact that noones perfect really makes me think all girls in the industry need to watch out if managers are starting to think this way.
NatalieFRPhilly
04-28-2007, 09:08 PM
I only kinda half agree..... I mean if managements allowed to fire a girl for being overweight they might end u taking it to the next level like "No you have too much cellulite, um you have a stretch mark, your ears are too big, your mouth is too small" If anything management should have pulled her aside and approached her about trying to lose a bit of weight before firing her and publicly at that. All Im saying is there are a billion things that make a girl "unattractive" and the fact that noones perfect really makes me think all girls in the industry need to watch out if managers are starting to think this way.
That's just silly. More often then not if a girl has an ugly face she won't get fired. And while faces matter alot, this is a body business, the body is what the clubs worry most about, they don't want a bunch of fatties jiggling around their poles. The girl must have gained weight, she looked 6 months pregnant!!! People's faces don't change much except if they get plastic surgery which would hopefully make them look better looking.
Cally
04-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Heh I dont think im allowed to say anything anymore.. im lookin at my pics from MNQ and I look preggo :(
jaizaine
04-28-2007, 10:57 PM
I was stripping at one point when I was chubby. I was in deep denial about my body at the time, however.
maybe thats how they get through it then. i have noticed tho that some bigger girls have a lot of confidence.
did u find that u still made good money when u were bigger?
another thing is bigger girls with bigger boobs are often very popular
Darcy Foxx
04-28-2007, 11:16 PM
My club would totally fire the showgirls if we got too fat. We have some rather large podium girls, but the showgirls are kept up to a much stricter standard. I always worry that if they have any more really slim showgirls come along to the club, I'll lose my position on stage, because I am so much bigger than all the other stage girls. I honestly think I'm borderline... so there's always that stress in the back of my mind that I'll lose my job due to my weight.
I work with, and have worked with at clubs in the past, some girls who are very very chubby, but they always have had either nice big boobs or really really pretty faces so they've been kept around.
Samantha Coyle
04-29-2007, 08:24 AM
Its just not right to fire anyone for their physical appearance.
I agree. From my perspective (as the client) it's really cool to go to a club that employs women of all body types. For me, it's really the attitude that makes someone sexy, not the lack of padding. My favorite dancers are the ones who really look like they're having a great time.
flickad
04-29-2007, 08:28 AM
maybe thats how they get through it then. i have noticed tho that some bigger girls have a lot of confidence.
did u find that u still made good money when u were bigger?
another thing is bigger girls with bigger boobs are often very popular
Yeah, I did, though it tended to be European, Latin American and Indian guys who liked me the most. I'm also a C cup when I'm a size 6-8, any bigger than that and I go up to a D-DD, so maybe the breasts helped.
ViolaStrings
04-29-2007, 08:58 AM
I agree. From my perspective (as the client) it's really cool to go to a club that employs women of all body types. For me, it's really the attitude that makes someone sexy, not the lack of padding. My favorite dancers are the ones who really look like they're having a great time.
You have to draw the line somewhere. I promise the majority of men would rather see a frowning slender girl than a gleeful 300 pounder onstage.
ViolaStrings
04-29-2007, 09:02 AM
I'm pretty sure the club the OP worked at is Solid Gold - am I right?
Optimist
04-29-2007, 09:03 AM
From my perspective (as the client) it's really cool to go to a club that employs women of all body types.
Just a side note, you're not a client, you're a customer. Client has a whole other meaning.;)
as_intended
04-29-2007, 09:18 AM
That's just silly. More often then not if a girl has an ugly face she won't get fired. And while faces matter alot, this is a body business, the body is what the clubs worry most about, they don't want a bunch of fatties jiggling around their poles. The girl must have gained weight, she looked 6 months pregnant!!! People's faces don't change much except if they get plastic surgery which would hopefully make them look better looking.
But if she is still selling dances obviously someone finds her attractive. 6 months preganant is maybe a bit overweight i agree, but she should still be given the same rights as everyone else and not be fired for her physical appearance. If she has confidence, is comfortable with her weight and is still making money for herself and the club they have no real reason to fire her. She hasnt broken the rules so really i think the club is at fault for hiring her in the first place. being told your fat in a room of (most likely size 8) women is really humilating and really unfair in my opinion.
ViolaStrings
04-29-2007, 09:24 AM
But if she is still selling dances obviously someone finds her attractive. 6 months preganant is maybe a bit overweight i agree, but she should still be given the same rights as everyone else and not be fired for her physical appearance. If she has confidence, is comfortable with her weight and is still making money for herself and the club they have no real reason to fire her. She hasnt broken the rules so really i think the club is at fault for hiring her in the first place. being told your fat in a room of (most likely size 8) women is really humilating and really unfair in my opinion.
So clubs should be obligated to keep every girl that some guy MIGHT find attractive or get a dance from?
pinkpvc
04-29-2007, 09:36 AM
i'd have to go with it was right to fire her, but it was wrong to do it in public.
I'm part of the cuddly girl brigade myself with a wee bit of squidge on my tummy, but if i had a tummy bigger then my boobs or looked pregnant then i would fire myself!
If she is making money then she shouldnt have a problem going to a club with lower standards and getting a job there. do you know if she's tried to lose any weight? I mean you hear lots of stories on here of girls who started off with a bit of extra weight and lost it all to get a tight little body. I'm certainly on a big weight loss journey myself, but if she's not even trying then it would probably be best for her to be replaced.
but yeah i can't imagine how horrible i would feel if i got fired like that.
as_intended
04-29-2007, 09:42 AM
. I was really mad at the manager that was just wrong. If she was too fat for the club the customers would not get dances form her and she would either take the weight off or move on to another club because her competition was too high. But publicly firing her in front of everyone after a shitty night is just so wrong>:(!
So basically everyone had a bad night not just the "Fat" girl and it wasnt a "MIGHT" spend money on her moment it was a "People do spend money on her just not this particular BAD night" the top earner made 500 ffs. basically what im saying IS.. she hasnt exactly been treated fairly and/or equally. If the manager wanted to fire her he should have done it discreetly not brought her down to the same level as the prostitute and if he wanted to fire her because she doesnt make money he should have fired everyone else who had a bad night not based on the kg's she is. Now some other girl will be the "Fattest" girl in the club now thats shes gone is he gonna fire her too?
NatalieFRPhilly
04-29-2007, 10:21 AM
Another girl could be the fattest girl in the club but not fat. This is a looks industry, if your looks aren't up to par either work out or your ass is canned. No one said this was a nice industry.
ETA: got two posters confused my bad.
Samantha Coyle
04-29-2007, 11:13 AM
Just a side note, you're not a client, you're a customer. Client has a whole other meaning.;)
Good for me to know! Thanks! :-[
Bridgette
04-29-2007, 03:30 PM
I agree. From my perspective (as the client) it's really cool to go to a club that employs women of all body types. For me, it's really the attitude that makes someone sexy, not the lack of padding. My favorite dancers are the ones who really look like they're having a great time.Sorry, but you don't represent "the client" here.
Oh, and you girls talking about "rights" in this context are killing me. This has ZERO to do with "rights".
LatinaRose
04-29-2007, 04:02 PM
But if she is still selling dances obviously someone finds her attractive. 6 months preganant is maybe a bit overweight i agree, but she should still be given the same rights as everyone else and not be fired for her physical appearance. If she has confidence, is comfortable with her weight and is still making money for herself and the club they have no real reason to fire her. She hasnt broken the rules so really i think the club is at fault for hiring her in the first place. being told your fat in a room of (most likely size 8) women is really humilating and really unfair in my opinion.
Clubs do not fire girls based on which dancers are making money. They generally don't give a fuck how much money the girls go home with. They do care about how many customers they have in their seats. If the customer walks in, sees a fatty on stage and leaves, they care about that. And I have seen that happen.
No one is saying she doesn't have the "right" to strip. Just do it somewhere else.
And yes, the manner in which she was fired was rude. But that's the business, so get over it.
Sunshine73
04-29-2007, 04:54 PM
My club will not hire girls if they are chubby tubbies. There are thick girls working there, and they look great, but they are thick and toned, not chubby tubbies.
Sunshine73
04-29-2007, 04:55 PM
And while it was a dick move for the manager to fire the chubby girl in front of everyone, it was prolly done on purpose...to keep the other dancers in check.
Bridgette
04-29-2007, 06:24 PM
And while it was a dick move for the manager to fire the chubby girl in front of everyone, it was prolly done on purpose...to keep the other dancers in check.
Agreed. A way to say to everyone: if you don't keep your ass in shape we'll fire you too!
JettaNyx
04-29-2007, 06:52 PM
I agree...both those girls should have been fired privatley. I'm the chubbiest girl in my club for day shift...i've seen some of the night girls and damn...i'm skinny compared to most of them. i'm 5'3" and 165lbs (no one belives me though, i'm a muscular build, with a bit of padding, so i dont look that heavy). but like it has been said before on this thread...either you quit or you loose the weight, i've been steadily loosing. i also always look good...do my hair & make up, nails are always done, etc. the manager hired another cubby girl..jsut for saturdays which we needed girls so i dont blame him. she was all roll and..wore no make up, had on the worst day dress you'll ever see in your life and combat boots! she never came back.
i do belive that custies liek varety..but up to a limit i agree with. but i can easily see some clubs fireing even just the curvy girls claiming they're fat and only keeping the 5'7" barbie dolls but thats not what all guys like.
Korina
04-29-2007, 08:23 PM
Earlier last week I posted a thread about a dancer who I work with who put on around 30lbs in about 2 1/2 months. Most of it is in her belly and it is not toned. She may be preggars. Also she doesn't really wear cute costumes.
I stated that I was shocked that she said she only wanted to lose about five of that 30 she gained. But really, it doesn't look good on her and people have said so.
My club isn't firing her. I don't think she should be fired for her weight gain, but more for the way that she doesn't carry it well or put any effort into her appearance and the gain is not firm. I don't think this woman has ever seen a gym or owned a pair of running shoes.
I feel that this thread sort of backs up my statement of being shocked that she doesn't want to work on herself.
(Sorry, if this is considered highjacking)/:O
Corgan
04-30-2007, 01:20 AM
Corgan, w/ you, I think your face;) more than makes up for a couple of lbs you gotta lose. You're flawless.
hah awe thanks babylove. :) i've lost a good amount of weight since that crappy time in my life... but still.. :(
i feel like, everyone has different tastes. if the girl has the BALLS to get naked and dance around, then let her do it. it's just more money for the club to take from her. granted, the club i'm at now doesn't let the bigger girls get on stage on weekends because they don't want custys to see "fatties" and leave.
i have to stick to my prior statement when i said that if the belly is out father than the tits, that is SC fat.
cinammonkisses
04-30-2007, 09:52 AM
i have to stick to my prior statement when i said that if the belly is out father than the tits, that is SC fat.
Shit, if your belly hangs over your thong you're to big >:( There is nothing wrong with being curvy, or thick. But compared to being 'fat' then there is a huge difference. Thick/curvy girls are toned, maybe a little softeness in some areas, but their is a 10in diff between waist/hip measurements.
There is a girl at my club who came back. I saw her getting ready (this was dayshift) and all i kept thinking was, "OMG she is fat, pale and gross" She hit the floor and no less than 10min later she walked in the back kicking and cussing. She came up to me (again I do not get into strippa business) talking about our manager, "Mark, is being an ass, he told me that I've gained to much weight and I need to change outfits, can you believe him"
The manager came in shortly after and explained to her that she still looks nice (umm no she didn't) but until she tones up, she doesn't need to wear 2pc skimpy looking bikinis..which I agreed w/ wholeheartedly.
I think there is an appropriate way/inappropriate way to talk to dancers.
I only kinda half agree..... I mean if managements allowed to fire a girl for being overweight they might end u taking it to the next level like "No you have too much cellulite, um you have a stretch mark, your ears are too big, your mouth is too small" If anything management should have pulled her aside and approached her about trying to lose a bit of weight before firing her and publicly at that. All Im saying is there are a billion things that make a girl "unattractive" and the fact that noones perfect really makes me think all girls in the industry need to watch out if managers are starting to think this way.
But sometimes losing that kind of weight doesnt fly off right away. Maybe firing her UNTIL she lost weight and then given her the chance to come back.
And some places can be too selective, but MOST are not selective enough.
Kitsune83
04-30-2007, 10:46 AM
I have a really rounded tummy, it's not flat, never will be......but I'm not very big, a little over 5'4" 122 lbs, big boobs (32D, and yes, grew 'em meself), and I have some jiggles in my posterior as well.......I've never had trouble working....but I *have* been put "on notice" when I gained a few pounds......no biggie, it was done privately in the office, with my manager offering to do yoga with me in the mornings.....that's how it should be done IMO, and warning before firing, please....chickies gain weight at weird times, for weird reasons, it doesn't mean we won't be able to take it right off, it's probably that we're preoccupied with something in our own lives, thankyouverymuch.
Silky
04-30-2007, 11:04 AM
I agree there needs to be a limit, there is a difference between being thicky/curvy/ carrying it right as opposed to full out sloppy/gross/ can tell the girl doesnt take care of herself.
This is part of the reason why guys make fun of strippers and say its not HARD to be a stripper. They see girls that really should not be stripping. This takes away our job's credibility.
I really do not like the whole "any average woman can do it." If you do not keep up with yourself and maintain some sort of of "glamorous stripper image" our job will continue to lose even more credibility.
Circe
04-30-2007, 02:00 PM
And while it was a dick move for the manager to fire the chubby girl in front of everyone, it was prolly done on purpose...to keep the other dancers in check.
Yeah, I was going to say this would be his reasoning.
I'm all for standards though. Being fat is not erotic to the majority of people. Stripclubs are for erotic fantasy experiences (heh) and...you are not doing your job if you're not keeping in shape. So, you get sacked. This should not come as a surprise to girls who look 6 months pregnant with rolls.
Bridgette
04-30-2007, 05:13 PM
The manager came in shortly after and explained to her that she still looks nice (umm no she didn't) but until she tones up, she doesn't need to wear 2pc skimpy looking bikinis..which I agreed w/ wholeheartedly. LOL I just saw this. At one club there was this one fat girl. When I first started there she was a little fat but still had a decent shape, not too much pudge, but had a very pretty face and was a good seller. OK fine. But she just kept getting fatter and fatter, until after a year and a half, she was huge. I mean, her ass looked like one of those LARGE exercise balls inside her gown. Her gut hung over her thong, and she had so much cottage cheese even on her knees, she just looked ridiculous. Customers would walk in, see her on stage and walk right back out without even bothering to sit down.
When the owner came in one night, he saw her and commented on her weight. He did this regularly. But then she came on the floor wearing a white gown, glowing like a giant pudgy orb under the black lights. Owner just told her she wasn't allowed to wear white or even go on stage until she lost weight. The rest of us girls were stunned. Like, WTF??? She's so fat you don't want her to wear white OR go on stage, but you still let this cow work here???
I know the answer, but I'll never understand WHY they won't just get rid of girls like that because they make the whole place look bad. ugh. Just do it privately, instead of making a big scene.
LatinaRose
04-30-2007, 05:54 PM
Shit, if your belly hangs over your thong you're to big >:( There is nothing wrong with being curvy, or thick. But compared to being 'fat' then there is a huge difference. Thick/curvy girls are toned, maybe a little softeness in some areas, but their is a 10in diff between waist/hip measurements.
There is a girl at my club who came back. I saw her getting ready (this was dayshift) and all i kept thinking was, "OMG she is fat, pale and gross" She hit the floor and no less than 10min later she walked in the back kicking and cussing. She came up to me (again I do not get into strippa business) talking about our manager, "Mark, is being an ass, he told me that I've gained to much weight and I need to change outfits, can you believe him"
The manager came in shortly after and explained to her that she still looks nice (umm no she didn't) but until she tones up, she doesn't need to wear 2pc skimpy looking bikinis..which I agreed w/ wholeheartedly.
I think there is an appropriate way/inappropriate way to talk to dancers.
Now here is something I don't get - why the fuck would she even wear a skimpy bikini if she didn't look good in it? For fucks sake, look in the mirror! I think dancers should always try to wear whatever flatters them best, no matter what their body type. Yet some girls still think they can pull off they tiny 2 piece or that white gown when they clearly don't have the body for it. I don't need a manager to tell me I don't look good in something, that's what the mirror and my eyes for. Do these girls just see themselves differently than the rest of us view them??? Or do they just not care? Cuz I know if I ever gained weight like that I wouldn't even work until I lost it, much less put on a teeny bikini.
virgoamm
04-30-2007, 07:38 PM
^^No kidding, right? I am way more critical of myself than anyone else. I would never wear anything that didn't flatter my figure-especially at work. And I sure as hell wouldn't even APPLY at a strip club if I knew I was too fat much less work in one and get insulted when I got fired.
Some people just have NO shame. I remember when I went to Ozzfest one year in Seattle it was gunts, rolls and cottage cheese galore. For fucks sake, put some clothes on-my eyes, oh god-my eyes......:D
Dancers are selling a fantasy. If a guy wants to see a naked fat chick, he can go to a bar and pick one up for less. Come on now.
Corgan
04-30-2007, 08:35 PM
but everyone's perception of "fat" is different. if you put me next to your average skinny stripper with B cup tits, i look ALOT bigger than them.
proportionate = hirable and desirable.
lumpy and no shape = fat
ViolaStrings
04-30-2007, 08:37 PM
I know I personally find nothing sexier than thighs that look like cookie dough in cheesecloth. Even as a straight woman, it makes me want to spend money.
Corgan
04-30-2007, 08:44 PM
and i can't seem to find a better picture.. i'm looking, but it's not working in my favor...
http://www.design-your-life.org/files/4458c041980d0types.gif
all of these body types are acceptable. however, i think that #2 should have more breast to be called "proportionate"
Corgan
04-30-2007, 08:46 PM
I know I personally find nothing sexier than thighs that look like cookie dough in cheesecloth. Even as a straight woman, it makes me want to spend money.
even skinny girls can have gross thighs.
ViolaStrings
04-30-2007, 08:49 PM
even skinny girls can have gross thighs.
Mischa Barton is a great example.
Corgan
04-30-2007, 08:52 PM
^^ i'm not completely familiar with her thighs :) haha. i don't really care for her.