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Out where I work it's different. Some of the rural clubs have quite a few black girls from Milwaukee, and the majority of the Milwaukee girls who come to the small towns to work use the clubs to line up dates. Guys are tapping on their doors all night long at Super 8's. The guys complain that the girls are rush jobs.
I usually try to avoid working in the clubs that hire a majority of black girls out here because most of them make their money dating. And lots of guys who are used to those girls hound every black girl they see about dates. A higher percentage of the Milwaukee black girls date compared to the white ones. The word from the white whore mongers is that the black gals are a lot of fun.
On the bright side, these girls buy quite a few costumes from us as they have extra money from their out of the club escapades. ;D
Bridgette
05-30-2007, 10:29 PM
Well, in that kind of situation it's obvious why white guys might automatically think black girls are more likely to put out - if, percentage-wise, they actually ARE, then the guys are going to ask more black girls because they figure that's their best chance.
Good for you for taking advantage of the situation in your way ;D
lunchbox
05-31-2007, 06:52 AM
FWIW - I see black girls get ignored on stage in Houston all the time, however, the bigger the club, the better they seem to do. Like St. James and T's, I rarely see them snuffed.
virgoamm
05-31-2007, 10:53 AM
I found a blog about this. It's kind of old, but has some lively debate on it:
http://blogs.chron.com/cityhall/archives/2007/04/sex_business_is_1.html
I worked at St. James for over a year several years ago including during the Super Bowl. That club gets a very racially diverse clientele, and customers from every income level, hustlers to very wealthy. Some guys of course turn their head when a woman of color comes around, but most people in H-town are used to diversity so everyone has a fair chance there. Plus you get a lot of out of town money through there which helps.
ascifilullaby
05-31-2007, 05:57 PM
well, i work in houston and i've noticed that very light-skinned black girls make very good stage money, while dark-skinned black girls will sometimes make men walk out. and this is regardless of body; i've seen chubby light-skinned black chicks bank on stage while a really hot dark-skinned chick will not recieve a single buck when she's on stage in the same night.
miabella
06-01-2007, 12:43 AM
when i worked at legends, the white dancers would be upset if i made more in a stage set than they did, because i wasn't 'supposed' to get tipped decently onstage. and of course there were all the accidental-on-purpose pop-ins on any private dances i did (all dances are done in private or semi-private rooms in nude clubs in houston, with a couple of exceptions), because a black dancer wasn't supposed to make more money than they did without extras being involved. but of the nude clubs, at the time i worked there it was pretty much highest earning potential. so i tipped management to keep the girls off my back and carted home my wheelbarrows of 100s until business started to slide there. current now in top earning, unless it's also suffered with the LE issues, might be club exotica down south.
that said, at the extremely mixed (often but not always skewing towards black dancers) xtc north, i was often one of the top stage draws. also at the same club i was pretty much the only black dancer not doing extras in the back rooms. it was known for never getting raided, but last i knew of it, money was unreliable as too many friends-of-staff were in attendance rather than paying customers.
heartbreakers down in galveston was the only club i ever worked where they hired based strictly on hotness (or big boobs, heh) and just had a potpourri of every color and ethnicity of girl that was hot (or big-boobed, but always slim/average in build of course) they could find. but they had such irregular customer traffic that girls shared round the quality regulars in rotation.
what killed me about legends was that even on nights when my stage tips were zip or low, i would make the same or a bit more in dance sales as on nights when i made a lot onstage. the same guys who wouldn't tip me a dollar, or 5 or 10 would slap 300 for dances on a credit card. i have no idea how it's changed in a year (apparently earning potential has dropped by half or more, owie), but except for the chick drama, that was both the most money i averaged and some of the least stressful money to earn. and it was a club where black girls got sent home if there were more than 5 signed in (4 if the owner was feeling twitchy).
redhothoney
06-01-2007, 02:20 AM
one of my regulars is friends with the general manager at a club the gm said no more hiring black girls, every time he hires a new black girl more and more non tipping non dance buying black guys come in. I thought it was mean, couldn't tell you if it was true i don't work there, and don't plan on working there no need to deal with managers that stay on it!
Katrine
06-01-2007, 10:34 AM
Yup, the hiring managers at Caligula were instructed not to hire any more black girls. I was close w one of the floor guys who almost got into a physical fight w the retarded day manager who refused to hire a really pretty black girl, then turned around and hired two fat slobs who came in after (either white or hispanic, not sure). Its alive and well, sadly. :(
It seems like the towns with larger black populations seem to discriminate against hiring us women of color more than towns where we are only a small percentage of the population.
If a club has momentum, and is run properly you can make ANYONE feel obligated to tip and buy dances. It doesn't matter what race the customers are. Most strip clubs sadly just open the doors and run on automatic pilot. AND they are all white owned. As I always say, proper integration won't occur until professional people of color take over many of the businesses owned by staunch conservative white males.
WiseGuy_TX
06-02-2007, 08:03 AM
...getting back on topic. Here is the letter customers are being asked to fill out at several clubs.
Bridgette
06-02-2007, 11:31 AM
^Image too small to read.
WiseGuy_TX
06-02-2007, 02:26 PM
...its a 220k file, click thumbnail to enlarge, or use a better viewer or zoom in. It looks fine at 8x11 inch in my viewer.
Bridgette
06-03-2007, 10:30 PM
The thing is, when you upload images to posts, the board automatically resizes them to save bandwidth. So when I click on it to enlarge (duh), I get an image that's 400 pixels wide by 520 pixels high. Faaaaar from 8.5 x 11. People will be more likely to read it if you upload it to someplace like imageshack and link to it so we can see the full size.
WiseGuy_TX
06-04-2007, 05:46 AM
...ok
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3949/letterzz9.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3949/letterzz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Bridgette
06-04-2007, 09:23 AM
Hmm. I think the wording is a bit over-dramatic if it's meant to appeal to the city officials. Makes me wonder who the target audience really is. I would think that something with more hard facts and numbers would get more attention from city council, instead of all that emotional appeal.
Who wrote this??
Katrine
06-04-2007, 09:58 AM
I really wish that the city counsel would grandfather existing business, and not allow more to open. THEN, they need to add some language to the ordinance both repealing the 3-ft law AND making club owners/managers liable for acts of prostitution, not just the dancers.
Plus, another thing about Houston clubs is that they are horribly understaffed with bouncer types. Just a couple of monkeys in suits walking around every once in a while. Clubs need to hire big, brawny bouncers to walk around and keep guard.
Will this piss off the aspd'ers. Sure. Who cares. They brag about how little they spend in the clubs as is. Plus, they can just go to the fucking spas and executive retreats. Assholes.
But that's my pie in the sky idea. I have no faith in the city doing something smarter like that.
Bridgette
06-04-2007, 10:23 AM
^Agreed 100%.
virgoamm
06-05-2007, 12:40 AM
Hmm. I think the wording is a bit over-dramatic if it's meant to appeal to the city officials. Makes me wonder who the target audience really is. I would think that something with more hard facts and numbers would get more attention from city council, instead of all that emotional appeal.
Who wrote this??
Eek, no joking.... What, was that written by a seventh grader?! If nothing else, it'll give the city council something to laugh at and to further justify their reasoning. Shut those fuckers down and drag those folks back to school! :P
WiseGuy_TX
06-05-2007, 04:54 AM
...despite the wording it provides a supportive signature for the SOB's cause. I have witnessed customers signing it at the front desk.
Surely the SOB lawyer, John Weston, is aware of it. He has been involved with legal issues in Scottsdale, L.A., Treasures in Vegas, Adult Film Association, etc... I agree with Katrine. Needed changes to the stripping business in the eyes of experienced strippers is typically different than in the eyes of City Councils with their moralistic agenda.
Bridgette
06-05-2007, 08:24 AM
They'll need to get more than a few customers' signatures to sign it, I think. Seems to me they'll need at least as many signatures as local policies would require to get an issue on public ballot. THAT will get city council's attention. A few (or even a few hundred or thousand) customer signatures won't do squat to sway city council.
When this issue hit in Los Angeles, I think they got like 56,000 public signatures. In Houston given the type of people that live there, I'd be willing to bet a LOT of public signatures could be had against this ridiculous SOB bill.
WiseGuy_TX
06-05-2007, 03:34 PM
Harris County won't warmly welcome strip clubs (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4861865.html)
Commissioners to discuss whether a mass exodus of industry is possible
By BILL MURPHY
"Worried the city's crackdown on sexually oriented businesses could drive some clubs to relocate to unincorporated areas, Harris County officials said they won't be any more welcoming than their Houston counterparts.
County Judge Ed Emmett said he applauds the city's tough stance on the clubs but wants the county to be ready to prevent them from setting up outside city limits. "I want to make sure all of them don't move out of the city into the county," he said. Commissioners Court today will discuss whether such a mass exodus is possible."
redhothoney
06-10-2007, 12:02 AM
I wonder how many signatures they've gotten by now?...
liberator
06-11-2007, 12:28 PM
So we now see the true motive of Mayor White is to force the clubs to shut down. His motives have nothing to do with so-called secondary effects which is nonsense anyway as numerous studies exist now to refute the secondary effects claims of government. Sounds like a prima facie case for striking down the ordinance now!
redhothoney
06-15-2007, 12:08 PM
This adult store got busted for selling dildos (penis shaped objects are supposedly illegal now?!... oh wow) this happened yesterday and the general manager got arrested wtf!!!
redhothoney
06-15-2007, 12:12 PM
I think that they should be stricter about the age limit in clubs, and adult stores. You should be atleast 21, not 18. For peace sakes I was 18 when I was a senior in high school.