View Full Version : pros and cons of incall vs outcall escorting
Kalligirl
06-28-2007, 09:29 AM
^^^ Yeah, definately not for the timid, but I mean, its a mindset. A lot of guys, assume you are a retarded slut and will try to get over on you. I'm 4'11" and look 16 so guys think I am some baby lamb... thats when the claws come out. But like I said earlier, I'm an escort, not a prostitute. Big diff.
I think you women are brave I would be scared.
AmberHoney
07-03-2007, 08:42 PM
If a woman gets anxietal going into unfamiliar territory, she shouldn't be in the buisness. You have to be a shark and go after what you want and be smart about it. Can't be shaking like a leaf when you are trying to work someone.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a pussy who is too scared to get out there and hustle up money or work someone out of their cash. It's just that an extra $100-$200 + travel time for an outcall isn't worth the risk.
I mean, I don't count stacks of money at the gas station, either. It's not because I'm AFRAID, it's because it's just not worth it to make sure that that $1500.00 is still in my bra, and it hasn't gone down to $1480.00 due to a wayward $20.00.
There's just some stuff that you just don't have to do, and you're not a pussy or scared or out of your element because you choose not to do it. You're not more of a badass because you do choose to do it and you're not indecisive if you do neither.
It's a personal choice. Me, I choose not to do it.
I'm not the typical escort. I just wanna get paid, and fuck. 90% of the time I orgasm as well.
I'm not out there hustling every single dollar out of someone, irritating my clients by adding extra $50 for 10 extra minutes on their hour and $100 when I get to the door "Cuz there was traffic and the drive was long" and changing my rates on them. I'm not getting out of bed at 3am for a 2 hour call, etc. I know so many girls who do that.
I don't need to make $500,000 a year off my pussy...I'm happy just under six figures. It's just less stressful and less drama and just safer. I work when I feel like it and thankfully have some long time regulars...one of whom supports my day-to-day living with a monthly allowance.
I don't have kids, I don't have a drug problem, I don't live beyond my means, I'm not supporting a deadbeat boyfriend, etc...all the things that sometimes lead women to step outside of their comfort zone for SO LONG that the abnormal becomes normal and comfortable to them.
I just do this because the money is so fast, so quick and I make sure that it's easy money. I'm not gonna be up in someone else's house that I'm unfamiliar with in their bathroom after sex and wiping myself with babywipes, rushing home to shower or standing in a shower with someone.
Unless a guy has like, a problem (out of control spending/sex addiction/need for a thrill or something).... they already know what they are gonna spend the minute they contact you/meet you. They already have their game plan in mind. Like "I'll start with a 2 hour call...that's only $500.00. If I like her, then I'll use my 'party hard money' all on her."
The guy already knows what he is gonna spend. Whether it be at a strip club, on an escort, at a casino, shopping, etc. Now, you can definitely make sure he spends it all on you instead of spreading the money around.
This is why at my incall location (where I do my GFE), I have a fully stocked bar of great liquor (all given as gifts), I usually have fresh baked breads and cookies and things like chicken wings, I *ALWAYS* have cheese cubes, fruit, bottled water etc...I have a jacuzzi tub, etc. There is no need for them to get a hotel room, give me that money. There is no reason for them to stop off for a bite to eat. Give me that money. There is no reason to stop and buy a bottle of wine or liquor. Give me that money. I don't want them to spend money on anyone or anything besides ME. But am I working them for it? No. I'm just making it more convenient for them to spend it on me, instead of elsewhere in the marketplace.
Since I provide GFE...incalls work best for me. Kudos to someone that works outcalls safely, legally, and works them well. But I like keeping my clients for YEARS...not just a few hours.
AlexxaHex
07-03-2007, 09:09 PM
If I were going to escort, I'd probably do things the same way, AmberHoney. I think you have a great system worked out for yourself.
thegreatdame
07-09-2007, 03:36 PM
AMBERHONEY!!!!
I wanna come work with you!
At this point in my life I wouldn't mind making 500k/year from selling pussy.;D if I could. I've met women making 1000 or better everyday just from escorting and here I am shaking my ass in hopes of making 200plus a night in some bullshit ass club. Sheesh, I want to hook up with the broads you know who are making that crazy money. All bullshit to the sideline.
It's rough out here for a sista.
Kalligirl
07-15-2007, 09:30 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with being a pussy who is too scared to get out there and hustle up money or work someone out of their cash. It's just that an extra $100-$200 + travel time for an outcall isn't worth the risk.
I mean, I don't count stacks of money at the gas station, either. It's not because I'm AFRAID, it's because it's just not worth it to make sure that that $1500.00 is still in my bra, and it hasn't gone down to $1480.00 due to a wayward $20.00.
There's just some stuff that you just don't have to do, and you're not a pussy or scared or out of your element because you choose not to do it. You're not more of a badass because you do choose to do it and you're not indecisive if you do neither.
It's a personal choice. Me, I choose not to do it.
I'm not the typical escort. I just wanna get paid, and fuck. 90% of the time I orgasm as well.
I'm not out there hustling every single dollar out of someone, irritating my clients by adding extra $50 for 10 extra minutes on their hour and $100 when I get to the door "Cuz there was traffic and the drive was long" and changing my rates on them. I'm not getting out of bed at 3am for a 2 hour call, etc. I know so many girls who do that.
I don't need to make $500,000 a year off my pussy...I'm happy just under six figures. It's just less stressful and less drama and just safer. I work when I feel like it and thankfully have some long time regulars...one of whom supports my day-to-day living with a monthly allowance.
I don't have kids, I don't have a drug problem, I don't live beyond my means, I'm not supporting a deadbeat boyfriend, etc...all the things that sometimes lead women to step outside of their comfort zone for SO LONG that the abnormal becomes normal and comfortable to them.
I just do this because the money is so fast, so quick and I make sure that it's easy money. I'm not gonna be up in someone else's house that I'm unfamiliar with in their bathroom after sex and wiping myself with babywipes, rushing home to shower or standing in a shower with someone.
Unless a guy has like, a problem (out of control spending/sex addiction/need for a thrill or something).... they already know what they are gonna spend the minute they contact you/meet you. They already have their game plan in mind. Like "I'll start with a 2 hour call...that's only $500.00. If I like her, then I'll use my 'party hard money' all on her."
The guy already knows what he is gonna spend. Whether it be at a strip club, on an escort, at a casino, shopping, etc. Now, you can definitely make sure he spends it all on you instead of spreading the money around.
This is why at my incall location (where I do my GFE), I have a fully stocked bar of great liquor (all given as gifts), I usually have fresh baked breads and cookies and things like chicken wings, I *ALWAYS* have cheese cubes, fruit, bottled water etc...I have a jacuzzi tub, etc. There is no need for them to get a hotel room, give me that money. There is no reason for them to stop off for a bite to eat. Give me that money. There is no reason to stop and buy a bottle of wine or liquor. Give me that money. I don't want them to spend money on anyone or anything besides ME. But am I working them for it? No. I'm just making it more convenient for them to spend it on me, instead of elsewhere in the marketplace.
Since I provide GFE...incalls work best for me. Kudos to someone that works outcalls safely, legally, and works them well. But I like keeping my clients for YEARS...not just a few hours.
Well, I'm not GFE, never would do incalls, and once I show up at a call I have to explain to the man its no GFE, no sex, etc, if you want to get your money you have got to be a bitch about it.
AmberHoney
07-28-2007, 07:34 AM
AMBERHONEY!!!!
I wanna come work with you!
At this point in my life I wouldn't mind making 500k/year from selling pussy.;D if I could. I've met women making 1000 or better everyday just from escorting and here I am shaking my ass in hopes of making 200plus a night in some bullshit ass club. Sheesh, I want to hook up with the broads you know who are making that crazy money. All bullshit to the sideline.
It's rough out here for a sista.
500k is totally unrealistic unless you're an ex-pornstar or a celebrity who sells ass on the side *yes some of them do that* or a former Playboy Bunny or Feature Dancer who gets snatched up and sent over to the UAE or Oman to be anally pounded, suck endless dick and be ass naked 24/7 and serve oil heirs in the desert as a profession.
I know a few chicks who make about half that, though... and they are exotic dancer builds, the typical 36-26-36 bodies with the lil C cups and pretty faces. They get a lot of their business off referral work with company execs and pro athletes.
But you can make about $800 a day as an Indy, easilly. $800 translates into about 10-20 minutes of actual sex and about 2 hours of talking to your tricks. Depending on your rates you can clear that in 2-4 clients. Booking multiple hours, you could make that in 1-2 clients. Sex is expected 50% of the time and oral sex is expected 80% of the time. Once in a blue moon you'll get the handjob guys or the cuddle guys. Depends on the trick.
Before I got my hookup on a sugar daddy I used to work like 4 days a week and make a little more or a little less than $3k during those 4 days. But $3k was my goal.
Well, I'm not GFE, never would do incalls, and once I show up at a call I have to explain to the man its no GFE, no sex, etc, if you want to get your money you have got to be a bitch about it.
So you're one of those escorts who doesn't have sex with their clients?
To be totally honest...I've never met one of those in real life.
I knew a chick that didn't sleep with a trick for over a year but she had a goal of Xdollars she needed out of him before she slept with him, so that's basically the same thing IMO.
Kalligirl
07-29-2007, 11:43 AM
Yeah, my friend taught me the tricks of the trade on how to get $$ without having to do certain shit. (I'm not judging at all or looking down at all, but it just aggrivates me when people don't believe that there are escorts out there who don't fuck or think escorts just go in and fuck for a $100 bucks)
They are paying me for a lingerie show,dance/grind session, back rub, conversation, etc.
If they want sex I give the money back and I'm gone. Normally I'll demand some sort of cash for me driving and using up gas. But where I worked, during season, I would get insane amounts of calls each night so it was easier to weed out the creepo's from the gentleman. However, Amberhoney, as I'm sure you know, even the sweetest person over the phone can be the biggest asshole once you meet them.
If you want to, PM me and I can tell you a great area to work where you can make LOADS of cash during season and where to advertise and good agencies (unless your indy) to work for!
Kalligirl
07-29-2007, 11:53 AM
I know girls who make maybe 250+ a year. But they are hard core hustlers. They work 24 hrs a day. They wake up in the middle of the night, roll out of bed, throw make up on and boom they are out the door to get some money. At one point in my life I did that and it really wears and tears on you. I'm no longer an escort, and would only escort in this one particular area because I know the hotels pretty well and agencies.
And Amber, I wasn't judging you or anything, I do not look down on any escort at all. Its just that I know tons of girls who got arrested using incall locations. And like I stated earlier, I don't think its safe to have men know where you are for extended periods of time in this buisness.
You have to understand, if you are indy, and lets say this girl getting into the buisness decides to use agencies and incall, men are going to know where she is, whom she doesn't know. So, I'm sure you do not advertise where you are going to be via internet, while some agencies will be like "Yeah, I have a girl at this hotel in this room #" bla bla bla.
Funny, i was in SC at a nail salon and a girl who was answering phones was sitting next to me, saying "Yes, i have a blonde at bla hotel in room 100, and a petite brunette in bla hotel room 320"... and I'm thinking, oh my god.... what the hell is wrong with you! You're just telling random dudes where these girls are? <sigh>
AmberHoney
07-30-2007, 08:30 PM
Yeah, my friend taught me the tricks of the trade on how to get $$ without having to do certain shit. (I'm not judging at all or looking down at all, but it just aggrivates me when people don't believe that there are escorts out there who don't fuck or think escorts just go in and fuck for a $100 bucks)
They are paying me for a lingerie show,dance/grind session, back rub, conversation, etc.
If they want sex I give the money back and I'm gone. Normally I'll demand some sort of cash for me driving and using up gas. But where I worked, during season, I would get insane amounts of calls each night so it was easier to weed out the creepo's from the gentleman. However, Amberhoney, as I'm sure you know, even the sweetest person over the phone can be the biggest asshole once you meet them.
If you want to, PM me and I can tell you a great area to work where you can make LOADS of cash during season and where to advertise and good agencies (unless your indy) to work for!
So you're more of like a private dancer type escort... that makes so much more sense then. You're not a regular "escort".
Yes, some of the nicest men who work for the biggest companies and have the most money can be the most vile, nasty, psycho people out there. The few times I've had so-called celebrity or public figures, they have been the worst.
I know girls who make maybe 250+ a year. But they are hard core hustlers. They work 24 hrs a day. They wake up in the middle of the night, roll out of bed, throw make up on and boom they are out the door to get some money. At one point in my life I did that and it really wears and tears on you. I'm no longer an escort, and would only escort in this one particular area because I know the hotels pretty well and agencies.
And Amber, I wasn't judging you or anything, I do not look down on any escort at all. Its just that I know tons of girls who got arrested using incall locations. And like I stated earlier, I don't think its safe to have men know where you are for extended periods of time in this buisness.
You have to understand, if you are indy, and lets say this girl getting into the buisness decides to use agencies and incall, men are going to know where she is, whom she doesn't know. So, I'm sure you do not advertise where you are going to be via internet, while some agencies will be like "Yeah, I have a girl at this hotel in this room #" bla bla bla.
Funny, i was in SC at a nail salon and a girl who was answering phones was sitting next to me, saying "Yes, i have a blonde at bla hotel in room 100, and a petite brunette in bla hotel room 320"... and I'm thinking, oh my god.... what the hell is wrong with you! You're just telling random dudes where these girls are? <sigh>
I didn't think you were judging me per se, but I thought you were somehow implying that I wasn't too bright or that I was int he wrong business because I had no balls or something. But I get where you are coming from, now...so it's cool.
Oh, some agencies are so EVIL...like they WANT their girls to be stalked and killed. That's why I've been so leery of agencies. I was with one for a short time... both the male and female agency owners were on my constantly for me to sleep with them, they were together in an 8 year relationship and had kids together...all their family drama was involved in the agency and that made other drama...the girl was taking calls herself and would take my calls as well as several other girls calls...try to take our regulars from us...pretending to be me on the phone, it was so much bullshit I just left it alone.
I know a couple girls making that kind of money, too...and they literally have NO LIFE at all. They are literally having sex up to 10 times a day, never sleeping for more than 3 or 4 hours at a time, hustling each and every call... going on calls that they feel are suspicious, etc.
There is no amount of money that would make me live like that, I'm sorry. But they do it and are getting PAID. But a lot of them have kids.
For some reason... I think that sometimes single mothers who work in the sex industry... whether it be stripping, porn, escorting, modeling, etc... do things/take risks that they might not take (if the only person they had to worry about was themselves) to provide for their children.
I never quite understood that. My really good friend is a stripper and she started sending her kids to this Montessori school that costs as much as friggin' college tuition... and she recently started turning tricks in the club "To help her children"... I don't get it. Not only can she lose her job there, but she could lose her dance license, or worse.
How does taking extra risks benefit your children? Yeah, you might bring home an extra $1,000...but you also might bring home a hell of a lot more. Like a court case, jail time, being beaten or raped or even murdered.
It just reminds me of those men who get a girl pregnant and then decide that selling crack is a great option for additional income to help support their child.
Kalligirl
07-31-2007, 04:03 PM
Ugh. Agencies. Ugh. There are a few escorts turned agencies and I worked for them, cause they are women and more understanding. There was a couple I worked for that were SCUM OF THE EARTH. He was a little dude from Chicago and if his wife was busy (she escorted too) sometimes he would pick up the phone and pretend to be a chick. That shit was hilarious. But, they were totally out for themselves, like most agencies are.
wannadance20
10-19-2012, 07:19 PM
what do you girls think about using your home as an incall location if you are taking bckpge clients but screening them asking for check stubs i.d and work email to verify? is that enough or is it too risky i live in the south
BlkSharpie
10-19-2012, 07:38 PM
I would not use my home as an incall location. You should screen no matter where you meet a guy, so thats not really a deciding factor...more its that I value my privacy and safety waaaay too much. The only way I would even begin to consider it is if I lived in a secured building, but even then, I cant say I would. (at least not now...though Ive been doing this over a year now, I still feel too "green" to do this).
Two things come to mind...
There is a guy in my local area who is now on every ladies DNS list. On the date itself he's not a bad guy at all...really sweet and generous, always brings gifts super cool date. But then...he has an alcohol problem, and and stalker tendencies. Before all this came out, ladies who had hosted him at their incall, were harrassed by him all hours of the day and night with him showing up at their door... yelling for them to let him in cause he misses and needs them and needs someone to talk to. One girl said the morning after their date, outside her front door were a bunch of empty beer bottles, and she only knew it was him cause he later texted saying he was sorry for the mess he left behind but he didnt want to wake her, just waiting hoping she would eventually come out. So like...all night unknown to her, dude was sitting in front of her door drinking beer. Ive heard some other horror stories, but this guy was crazy.
As for my apprehension even if in a secured building...several years ago, I used to live in a highrise with secured entry. Ill admit it, I was having quite a bit of fun meeting quite a few guys back then. So there was one guy who we made tentative plans...along the lines of "I might be free sometime Tues afternoon, Ill let you know" Well, I ended up making plans to meet another guy, and when I went downstairs to meet him, the other guy was there too. I was mortified! So the guy I made plans with was understandably creeped out and left, never heard from him again :( and the other guy...when I asked him what he was doing there, said that he was just really hoping I would be free, and decided to wait around my building in case I called him. Told him to GTFO and to never contact me again. I do think that if it wasnt for it that both the front doors and the elevators needed a key card, and we had a security guard who made sure everyone walking in is either a resident or with someone, he might have snuck in behind someone and come up to my door.
Blah that.
yellowrose25
10-23-2012, 07:36 AM
Yeah there's pros and cons. Hotels are usually more expensive, and in my area there's only certain ones we can use (plus I get paranoid going to the same ones all the time), but with apartments you can't just "up and leave" when your neighbors don't have a life or you end up getting the occasional moronic client who has seen you before, just "happens to show up 45 minutes early" and thinks it's ok to start banging on your door nonstop. OMG. :banghead: