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one voice
05-11-2007, 01:29 PM
Agreed(the HH part), and of course w/Jenny.

IMO, that's (the HH) the travesty right there.

Anywho, as long as Mast stays around....;)

About Hustle Hut, I had wanted to post my experience in this drama spiked thread (http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78093) but it was closed. I would like to say something about the credibility of the DancerWealth moderator.

I took his teleconference years ago when I was a newbie. My testimonial is on his website. I was stupid and naive to think that his "techniques" made me a power earner. If anything, his suggestions HURT my earnings, especially about what to wear, who and how to tip, what to say, all those cheezy salesy lines people see through. Once I dropped the bad habits he taught me, I began making $1000+/night. There are SW members who can vouch for my earnings.

I sell because I'm cute, confident, and get to the point. I'm always smiling. I play damsel in distress. It's that simple.

As a newbie, I was a $500/night earner. Why? Not because of the course but because I was hot. I didn't ask for VIPs. People asked me. Now that I cut to the chase about VIPs in cute feminine "save me" ways, I break $1200 fairly regularly. In a club where girls average about $300, I earned $1020 on Monday, $1100 on Tuesday, $1700 on Wednesday, $1105 on Thursday. I say this because I want you to know that I do well and I mean business. I work for it. I practice. And guess what? Some girls don't belong in the industry. I'm not saying that you must earn a G every shift, but you have to have an amount of decorum, professionalism, reliability, presentability, and the confidence to ask, "Wanna dance?" to earn an acceptable income.

DancerWealth has repeatedly stated that boobs don't matter. Yes, they do. Your physical attractiveness and stripper appeal matters. What you don't have in looks, you better make up in personality or in mileage. If I had bigger boobs, I'm hella certain that I'd make much more than I do now.

I am tossed out of VIP rooms because my tits aren't big enough for the guy whose paying for the group. It happens more than I'd like.

He also has said not to play dumb. Fuck that. Playing dumb makes money.

Your race does matter. I'm white, but I hear very often in passing conversation, "I don't like black girls," and "She's pretty for a black girl." DancerWealth disagrees that you can sell yourself 100% time, no matter what.

uuuuuhhhhh ....... no. Men have types.

What I find most insulting is that he wrote this:


There are, however, many top income earners who are just that because of me.

here (http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51727). I am not a top earner because of him. I am a top earner DESPITE HIM. He taught me a bad hustle. I earn $850+/night consistently. I'm saying his advice is bad. These are my words. My testimonital on his website is not my current opinion.

The girls on Hustle Hut are better. During these years lurking, I have learned an imcomparable amount from fellow strippers, more so than a man who has never been a regular customer, DJ, floorman, owner, manager, or significant other of an exotic dancer. In other words, I believe he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Furthermore, all this customer service follow-up and coaching he says he does is a bunch of hot air. A friend of mine and I took his teleconference together. I am f-ing testimonial. He has not once initiated contact with me or her. Another friend took his live course and she has not heard from him at all. Then there is another who bought his home study course. She hasn't heard from him either.

BTW, ask him about his Ferrari. He likes talking about it. IndustryMan had an earfull of it too. It's probably why the teleconference I took ran over 2-3 hours. The presentation seemed absurdly disorganized and tangential.

That laplover dude is a jerk. This is what I dislike about nonindustry men on this site. They act like know it alls. Like they know anything about being a stripper and what we go through.

hardkandee
05-11-2007, 01:49 PM
While it doesn't bother me that men read or post in most sections, hell, nothing will ever stop them from reading, I do think there are gobs of men (and a few ladies too) who shouldn't post as often as they do. They have nearly nothing to contribute, especially in areas that are work related. Really, I think they are just on the pink side vs. the blue side because they want to be friends with all the pretty girls.

Which is fine, but isn't that what strip clubs are for? For dudes to think they're hot shit because I hot dancer is talking to him. That is not what this board needs to be about.

Also, I don't find it necessary for any non-industry males to begin new threads outside of customer designated areas at all. But there isn't much to be done about that.

And while I'm at it, I don't think you should be able to post ANYWHERE if you can't select a gender in your profile. That freaking irks me.

ETA: Can we please make sure this thread does not become one of those DancerWealth fights? They never get anywhere.

LilyLove
05-11-2007, 02:01 PM
^ Seriously. I'm suspicious of who exactly this OneVoice person is. Sounds like someone who might have been banned or something before and should not be posting.

PaigeDWinter
05-11-2007, 02:05 PM
ETA: Can we please make sure this thread does not become one of those DancerWealth fights? They never get anywhere.





Seriously!

Minette
05-12-2007, 12:29 PM
I think if we kicked guys out from all these threads we'd miss out on the odd useful or entertaining posts. Sure, some of the posts are pointless or annoying, but that's not a gender-specific thing. Trolls aren't exactly going to be worried about the finer points of posting rules anyway, so why get all super-strict on valuable members of the community in an attempt to stop the trolls? This site is a STRIPPING community and that's a large part of it's value, but really the main thing that makes it awesome is the people that are on it, and I think that there are some male members that contribute to part of the feel of the site. Personally, I'd miss 'em.

Elizabeth729
05-12-2007, 02:00 PM
Um, question. Sorry to be ignorant but what is this pink side/blue side that everyone keeps refering to?

hardkandee
05-12-2007, 02:23 PM
Um, question. Sorry to be ignorant but what is this pink side/blue side that everyone keeps refering to?

You are on the pink side now.

The blue side is here: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=167

LuckiCharm
05-12-2007, 08:51 PM
I think the blue side is for strip club customers. Pink side is for strippers.

StrayStripper
05-13-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm changing my stance in part. A few blues are really fantastic. I like their contributions. The downfall is that out of the hundreds of blues, only about 5 are stripper-supportive. Perhaps every blue could be restricted to the blue side, customer conversation, body business, dollar den, the lounge, and other off topic non stripping sections until it is demonstrated that he is truly dancer-friendly.

Minette
05-13-2007, 05:13 PM
I'm changing my stance in part. A few blues are really fantastic. I like their contributions. The downfall is that out of the hundreds of blues, only about 5 are stripper-supportive. Perhaps every blue could be restricted to the blue side, customer conversation, body business, dollar den, the lounge, and other off topic non stripping sections until it is demonstrated that he is truly dancer-friendly.

That's not really practical - who decides they're really 'dancer-friendly'? And how do they prove it - an application, an audition, a pound of flesh? Or just a lot of sucking up and ass kissing? And why would they want to got through that - we're fun and all, but not that fun. Besides, that sounds like a "We won't talk to you until you're cool" kind of system, not to mention kind of authoritarian, and, personally, I'm too damned old for that kind of social scene.

DylanAngel
05-13-2007, 05:15 PM
Or just a lot of sucking up and ass kissing?

Now that sounds like fun!!;D We should just make them do that anyway!!

StrayStripper
05-14-2007, 08:07 AM
That's not really practical - who decides they're really 'dancer-friendly'? And how do they prove it - an application, an audition, a pound of flesh? Or just a lot of sucking up and ass kissing?

By not speaking until spoken to. ;D

I dunno. The blues who are baller have been here for a very long time. Maybe we could restrict the new blues posts to customer conversation and the blue side until we see that they are not trolls.

BrunetteGoddess
05-14-2007, 08:31 AM
Only problem with that idea is trolls who want to take the low road actually behave themselves for a while and THEN start trolling out of the blue.

braxley
05-15-2007, 03:16 PM
honestly when i first came here, i was very surprised to be able to read all the forums without any sort of verification or even just registration. with the popularity and receding anonymity of the internet, i am not used to being able to access such resources with no cost or proof of person. i have liked many of the models of pay-forums that i have used, and even just a dollar is enough to turn many a troll or prying eye away. i'm not necessarily suggesting it be a pay forum, but merely that i am indeed surprised there is no discrimination to viewers here previously.