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Yekhefah
05-16-2007, 10:16 AM
^^^ Moreover, he did it all for profit.

The world is a better place without him in it.

kittenkat
05-16-2007, 12:12 PM
He was a bigot for profit in life. I have no sadness for a man that preached hate- I'm happy Hitler's dead, and I'm equally happy that Falwell's dead. He supported apartheid. He supported bigotry. He supported sexism and homophobia and racism. He wasn't just some crazy-ass preacher on a street corner- he founded universities, influenced people and courted politicians and made millions off the process. I'm supposed to be sad that someone that wanted me dead is gone? You must be kidding me. I honestly believe that if you're a fucking bigot in this life, you shouldn't suddenly be sanctified and your image cleaned up once you're dead.

I'm sorry that his family has lost someone on a personal level, but on a bigger level, I'm glad he's gone.

xdamage
05-16-2007, 12:51 PM
He twisted religion, politics, spirituality, the judicial system, and the media to send his warped message of hate and intolerance to as many as would receive it. He preached SYSTEMATIC, ABSOLUTE, and UNFORGIVING hatred toward those different than him, and is responsible (directly and indirectly) for hate, hatecrimes, and the warped ideas instilled in young impressionable minds all over.

I've recently read a couple of books, "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris, and "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. I realize there are readers on this board that will find these books to be at best controversial, at worst, hateful from their own point of view, but a key point of both of these books focuses on abuse, and message of intolerance, and hate spread in the name of religion. That's not to say that those with great faith don't think they mean well, but basically both authors separately argue that blind faith, that ignores reason, ignores information (in particular scientific information), and that divides people into good and evil groups is key to most human caused suffering. I'm sure in Falwell's own mind he was doing the "right" thing, but yes, he basically has spread and perpetuated a message of hate.

Embyr
05-16-2007, 03:26 PM
^^^ I believe I've heard of the first, but I will definitely look these up...

For a definition of someone like Falwell, I think we can narrow a nebulous concept like "faith" into smaller categories: spirituality (within which most of our board members would fall), religion (celebrating holidays and holding up some traditions of religious faiths) religiousity (a more conservative version of the religious groups), and blind faith. Falwell was a LEADER of the latter group, which I believe would also cover destructivism, hate, intolerance, and the warping of religious concepts into the realms of the political.

I read a book for my Women and Violence class (Killing for Life: The Apocalyptic Narrative of Pro-Life Politics) that put SO much of the "moral majority" and other conservative groups' hate-rhetoric into some VERY interesting context... I wish I had it with me to quote, but I shipped it to my mother in NY.... :P

Lysondra
05-16-2007, 04:10 PM
I believe it's perfectly okay to be happy someone died. I don't care if 'they're a person, too'.... there's 8 BILLION of us. A person is not a very important thing, in my opinion.

xdamage
05-16-2007, 04:19 PM
For a definition of someone like Falwell, I think we can narrow a nebulous concept like "faith" into smaller categories: spirituality (within which most of our board members would fall), religion (celebrating holidays and holding up some traditions of religious faiths) religiousity (a more conservative version of the religious groups), and blind faith. Falwell was a LEADER of the latter group, which I believe would also cover destructivism, hate, intolerance, and the warping of religious concepts into the realms of the political.


I liked your break down, and agree. Very well put.

aussiepunkshocker
05-18-2007, 04:57 PM
Me too :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/Jowanna/tombstone1.jpg




I believe it's perfectly okay to be happy someone died. I don't care if 'they're a person, too'.... there's 8 BILLION of us. A person is not a very important thing, in my opinion.

Esco!
05-19-2007, 01:32 AM
People (mostly towards our Americans), you shouldnt rejoice in the misery of those that are fallen.

MrChristopher
05-19-2007, 01:48 AM
P.S.: Thanks, please send for Phelps ASAP.

I said nothing bad about Falwell, only that I was in no way saddened. I am still not. Human or no, he made me sick to my stomach.

Someone told me today that Phelps has cancer, and ...I have no idea if it's true, but OMG that actually made me do a little happy dance. I hope it's cancer. I hope it hurts. Yes. Yes I do.

Esco!
05-19-2007, 06:37 AM
P.S.: Thanks, please send for Phelps ASAP.

I said nothing bad about Falwell, only that I was in no way saddened. I am still not. Human or no, he made me sick to my stomach.

Someone told me today that Phelps has cancer, and ...I have no idea if it's true, but OMG that actually made me do a little happy dance. I hope it's cancer. I hope it hurts. Yes. Yes I do.
Sorry, but now you've become Phelps!!

Lets make the world sicker even still by wishing cancer on the very people we
despise our freedom of speech upon.

*shakes head*

BlackSheEp3
05-19-2007, 07:35 AM
R.I.P.

Embyr
05-19-2007, 10:11 AM
^^^ .... meh. >:( man doesn't deserve to "rip"
man deserves cockroach reincarnation...

MrChristopher
05-19-2007, 11:12 AM
Sorry, but now you've become Phelps!!

Lets make the world sicker even still by wishing cancer on the very people we
despise our freedom of speech upon.

*shakes head*

I've become Phelps? Hardly. I meant it mostly in jest. Plus, I think I'd have to do far more despicable things to truly deserve the comparison. If Phelps had cancer, I'm sure you'd think "Oh. That's terrible. That sweet, sweet man", right? I'm going to change my SN to MrShadenfreude, I guess. So be it.

On a Falwell note, I didn't see any public quotes from Larry Flynt about it. Didn't they end up being friends after the whole legal debacle?

AlexxaHex
05-19-2007, 02:36 PM
Sorry, but now you've become Phelps!!

Lets make the world sicker even still by wishing cancer on the very people we
despise our freedom of speech upon.

*shakes head*

Fuck that!! I'm HAPPY and I don't need to feel your beliefs about the matter, tyvm.

Hail Satan.}:D

Embyr
05-21-2007, 03:59 AM
interesting article on the evangelical movement post-falwell from the nytimes...

sorry the link will probably only work for a day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/us/21evangelical.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin