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TigersMilk
05-24-2007, 07:39 PM
I never read the child free thread ( or whatever the hell it was caused. ) I'm assuming this entire thread has spawned from it.,judging by the amount of times it's been mentioned during.

At any rate, My question is why is ANYONE bothered by a message board for fucks sake.

Who fucking cares about cliques?! seriously . This is a website that you can either go to or not go to. You can either be apart of discussions or NOT be apart of them. No one is forcing anyones hand.

And while it would great if all threads stayed on track, does it matter at the end of the day?

ITS THE INTERNET! fuck I swear. I don't get why a lot are rilled up over it. Because they don't get a degree of attention ? Or answers to specific questions? I can't figure it out.

I take the entire " it's not that fucking important" I actually had someone msg me and ask if I was pissed that on my birthday no one started a happy birthday thread to me but did for pooka. Dude seriously...lol why would I get upset?

UGH
Ya damn right! :worship::great:

LatinaRose
05-24-2007, 07:40 PM
I don't see a pack mentality. I can only speak for myself but what I post I actually mean. I'm a grown-ass woman (Steve Harvey reference) so I post what I think. May be you should pm the members you don't believe. Put 'em to the test! I've done it. At least you'll know for sure where they're coming from!:)

^^I would if I cared more. But I don't. Like Tart said, it's just a forum. I would only pm someone if they really, really offended me.

BTW, Tart, happy birthday! Can't believe someone actually pm'd you to find out if you were bothered tho.

xBlackBettyx
05-24-2007, 07:46 PM
I, too, still feel "out" of the cliques, despite over 1000 posts! :P

Go figure. Maybe I'm smelly. :(

Omg, I can smell you through my computer screen.
:P

PookaShell
05-24-2007, 08:30 PM
I never read the child free thread ( or whatever the hell it was caused. ) I'm assuming this entire thread has spawned from it.,judging by the amount of times it's been mentioned during.

At any rate, My question is why is ANYONE bothered by a message board for fucks sake.

Who fucking cares about cliques?! seriously . This is a website that you can either go to or not go to. You can either be apart of discussions or NOT be apart of them. No one is forcing anyones hand.

And while it would great if all threads stayed on track, does it matter at the end of the day?

ITS THE INTERNET! fuck I swear. I don't get why a lot are rilled up over it. Because they don't get a degree of attention ? Or answers to specific questions? I can't figure it out.

I take the entire " it's not that fucking important" I actually had someone msg me and ask if I was pissed that on my birthday no one started a happy birthday thread to me but did for pooka. Dude seriously...lol why would I get upset?

UGH

Ack! We missed Tarts birthday? They forgot mine too, till I posted my own. Happy birthday to tart though! :party:

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 08:40 PM
People always forget mine; I have no problem reminding them ;)

Tart
05-24-2007, 08:43 PM
^ Yah i wasn't too concerned with it lol I was in Florida having a vaca with my other half. It's just funny to me how people depend on this board, and want to create havoc with it.

Esco!
05-24-2007, 08:43 PM
People always forget mine; I have no problem reminding them ;)
You never got me anything for my birthday!!



*stars pouting* :toldoff:

TheSexKitten
05-24-2007, 08:52 PM
^ Yah i wasn't too concerned with it lol I was in Florida having a vaca with my other half. It's just funny to me how people depend on this board, and want to create havoc with it.

LOL forreal. People need to remember to put things in perspective. ;D

LilyLove
05-24-2007, 08:57 PM
^ I totally agree. People are always saying that SW is addictive- and it is. I think one of the reasons that this board thrives so much is because people in our industry often have a lot of time on their hands. We can work fewer hours for more pay.

I don't think that any "cliques" or whatever are the reason for the recent bitchiness though. I think it has to do with a lack of moderation and with people being judgemental. The fake i.d. thing was the one that made me the maddest, because when I did a search for other people who had asked that question, I found one from a "Goddess" member who recieved nothing but positive, even helpful replies.

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 09:00 PM
With me, I'm just a tad bit jealous of the "cliques". It's hard for me to open up enough to make friends, so I don't do it easily and am jealous of those who can.

AlexxaHex
05-24-2007, 09:07 PM
I don't have a great "big picture" answer to any of this, nor can I place total blame on any one person or specific group of people. Yes, I see some posters are more friendly with each other than with others. That's to be expected when you make friends anywhere. But to pick out who belongs in what clique and clearly define those "borders" would be really difficult for me to do.
I think that there are posters here who are more popular and revered than others. I think of SW as an internet version of a really cool and big strip club, and the politics of SCs are generally pretty high school-ish. You have your popular girls and the not-so popular ones, then the ones who float around back and forth between the two. I kind of think of myself as the latter, but I have always been and always will be a loner at heart. I am used to most people not agreeing with me and I'm okay with that. It's just the manner in which they disagree that sometimes gets to me.

There has been a lot of "group thinking" here and I can sense and even attest to the feelings of fear of saying things and getting bashed to shit because of ONE simple word or sentence that wasn't intended to be harmful but taken the wrong way. Some people have a tendency to be "yes-men" and enjoy unscrewing a jar lid that someone else already loosened so that they can take credit for someone else's thoughts inadvertently. Then it becomes an all out flame-fest because people like to feel validated in their opinions. That's human nature, but it gets really gross sometimes.
Where are the Lounge mods anyway? Can mods from other sections intervene over here?

I thought about apologizing for something here just to get the ball rolling, but I'm not quite sure what to apologize for honestly. I feel like all my thoughts have been pretty valid and I feel justified in typing them out here. I guess all I can say is that if I've unnecessarily contributed to a flame war against anybody, then I am sorry. I will still continue to post my opinions, even if they go against the grain...ESPECIALLY if they go against the grain and you can all be forewarned that I never intend for my posts to be flamey in nature, unless it is directed at Sophiemarie. :P I honestly don't post just to flame and I feel like my thoughts contribute to intelligent conversation. If people are offended by how I think, then I just ask that they don't respond to what I have to say because I am not a malicious sort of person for the sake of it, especially on the freakin' internet - jeez. People have to pay me to experience real degradation anyway. LOL


Soooo.....while I am here:

Happy Birthday, Miss Tart of Fabulousness!


*cough*
Just so everyone knows, mine is June 8th. ;)

PookaShell
05-24-2007, 09:08 PM
*yanks CF onto her lap* I'm not exactly the coolest kid in school or anything but I'll love me some CF!

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 09:12 PM
*cuddle Pooka*

*is not used to such friendliness and runs away*

Tart
05-24-2007, 09:12 PM
People have to pay me to experience real degradation anyway. LOL
)

^ high five!

Mily
05-24-2007, 09:17 PM
^ high five!


I don't have a great "big picture" answer to any of this, nor can I place total blame on any one person or specific group of people. Yes, I see some posters are more friendly with each other than with others. That's to be expected when you make friends anywhere. But to pick out who belongs in what clique and clearly define those "borders" would be really difficult for me to do.
I think that there are posters here who are more popular and revered than others. I think of SW as an internet version of a really cool and big strip club, and the politics of SCs are generally pretty high school-ish. You have your popular girls and the not-so popular ones, then the ones who float around back and forth between the two. I kind of think of myself as the latter, but I have always been and always will be a loner at heart. I am used to most people not agreeing with me and I'm okay with that. It's just the manner in which they disagree that sometimes gets to me.

There has been a lot of "group thinking" here and I can sense and even attest to the feelings of fear of saying things and getting bashed to shit because of ONE simple word or sentence that wasn't intended to be harmful but taken the wrong way. Some people have a tendency to be "yes-men" and enjoy unscrewing a jar lid that someone else already loosened so that they can take credit for someone else's thoughts inadvertently. Then it becomes an all out flame-fest because people like to feel validated in their opinions. That's human nature, but it gets really gross sometimes.
Where are the Lounge mods anyway? Can mods from other sections intervene over here?

I thought about apologizing for something here just to get the ball rolling, but I'm not quite sure what to apologize for honestly. I feel like all my thoughts have been pretty valid and I feel justified in typing them out here. I guess all I can say is that if I've unnecessarily contributed to a flame war against anybody, then I am sorry. I will still continue to post my opinions, even if they go against the grain...ESPECIALLY if they go against the grain and you can all be forewarned that I never intend for my posts to be flamey in nature, unless it is directed at Sophiemarie. :P I honestly don't post just to flame and I feel like my thoughts contribute to intelligent conversation. If people are offended by how I think, then I just ask that they don't respond to what I have to say because I am not a malicious sort of person for the sake of it, especially on the freakin' internet - jeez. People have to pay me to experience real degradation anyway. LOL


Soooo.....while I am here:

Happy Birthday, Miss Tart of Fabulousness!


*cough*
Just so everyone knows, mine is June 8th. ;)

AAWWWW...this almost made me cry....:'( :)

Esco!
05-24-2007, 09:44 PM
There's bound to be some love for Esco in the air, no???


*starts jumping up and down* :D



ceases to jump up and down :mad:

Esco!
05-24-2007, 09:55 PM
*cough*
Just so everyone knows, mine is June 8th. ;)
I so *cough* never heard that *cough* :D

Tart
05-24-2007, 09:55 PM
^ dude take 50bucks and go into your strip club and ask for love. I hate desperate men when they want attention for free. desperation=money

Optimist
05-24-2007, 09:56 PM
Yeah, I got some love for ya' little boy! Just follow big Mama around the barn for a moment and let me show ya' something.......(I likes 'em young and hung).:rotfl:

Esco!
05-24-2007, 10:01 PM
^ dude take 50bucks and go into your strip club and ask for love. I hate desperate men when they want attention for free. desperation=money
No way Tart, BTW.....desperate......50bucks???? HUH???

:P

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 10:54 PM
Seriously Esco, what is the point of your presence on the pink side at all? You aren't particularly helpful, funny, or have much to offer other than horning all over the female populus for free....

Every other post from you is "It sounds like you need a ______!"

jaizaine
05-24-2007, 11:06 PM
^^
u have to admit though he has been getting a lot of attention and not just on this thread so I'm not surprised he is sticking around on the pink side - positive reinforcement.

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 11:08 PM
Ok, well here's my question:

Why?!

What the fuck is so entertaining about him? I think his excessive horn dog/whiny behaviour routine is stale.

LilyLove
05-24-2007, 11:10 PM
*cuddle Pooka*

*is not used to such friendliness and runs away*

From more of an "outsiders" perspective, you seem pretty "in" to me. But even if you didn't Corsica, you still have so much value as a contributer. Everyone needs to remember that: being a high post count member or a long standing one does not dictate the true value of you opinions. Rock it girls.

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 11:10 PM
:hug: @ LL

Thanks.

jaizaine
05-24-2007, 11:13 PM
Ok, well here's my question:

Why?!

What the fuck is so entertaining about him? I think his excessive horn dog/whiny behaviour routine is stale.

:thinking: :shrug: :noidea:

Deni
05-24-2007, 11:13 PM
So...I think we can all agree on one thing here- pretty much EVERY post that has been listed as one where things got out of control came from the Lounge. Now...for those of us that have been here long enough to really remember...were things ever like that when Rhia was around (not that I'm trying to blame it on HER or anything because I know she's busy and has WAY better things to do then mess with the Lounge...blah blah...)? Nope, sure didn't.

Threads that got flame-ish would have been edited or locked when it got to that point. Without a mod, though, these types of threads were left open and all that good stuff.

Yeah, so...I think it's obvious what the deal is...it seems at times the Lounge has become a cross between Political Poo and Member Boards. Scary! :O

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 11:15 PM
When are we going to get this issue resolved already? Obviously Rhia is too preoccupied with her babies (as she should be!) to moderate an internet forum. We need a new mod in here pronto!

If we need Pryce to do it, then that pisses me off. No offense to him, but he obviously doesn't have enough time to dedicate to SW to be the only person able to address most site issues. It's not fair to him or us.

stuckinnj
05-24-2007, 11:17 PM
I've been here two minutes, and I already don't like it here. I posted one little thread of a video, and I'm a "stupid twelve year old perv" all of a sudden. I wonder what people will call me, when I really post something offensive.}:D

Deni
05-24-2007, 11:19 PM
When are we going to get this issue resolved already? Obviously Rhia is too preoccupied with her babies (as she should be!) to moderate an internet forum. We need a new mod in here pronto!

If we need Pryce to do it, then that pisses me off. No offense to him, but he obviously doesn't have enough time to dedicate to SW to be the only person able to address most site issues. It's not fair to him or us.

Ahem...glad you said it for me, CF. That's exactly what I was trying to get at there, lady.

AlexxaHex
05-24-2007, 11:20 PM
I've been here two minutes, and I already don't like it here. I posted one little thread of a video, and I'm a "stupid twelve year old perv" all of a sudden. I wonder what people will call me, when I really post something offensive.}:D

:wave: Bye! See you in hell!

BrunetteGoddess
05-24-2007, 11:22 PM
I've been here two minutes, and I already don't like it here. I posted one little thread of a video, and I'm a "stupid twelve year old perv" all of a sudden. I wonder what people will call me, when I really post something offensive.}:D

If you don't like it, it's really quite simple:

Ignore it. ;)

Fawn
05-25-2007, 01:22 AM
Maybe we should get rid of the post count? Or the God/ Goddess etc. Titles? That way no one knows how much you post or not, how new or old you are or how long you've been around. Maybe that'd take care of some of the negative feelings? Personally, I was looking forward to one day being a Goddess, but it's really not THAT important. Also, I think the post count helps with spotting trolls quicker. I dunno, I'm too sleepy to think.

Mily
05-25-2007, 01:26 AM
Yes...it does help with the TROLL SPOTTING....great point there, Fawn. :)

PookaShell
05-25-2007, 01:40 AM
Sometimes I think we just need a thread like this, where people can be honest - say hey, what the hell is up with _____ . And address it without biting each others heads off. We're adults, we can handle it. I dont contribute to much bitchiness around here because I don't usually feel the need - I adore almost every poster on here.

I do contribute to annoying thread de-railing sometimes, though, so - it's been addressed that its annoying - and while I'm not going to cut off closeness I have built with certain posters or stop expressing it - I will focus on what I'm typing more often and try to contribute as much worthwhile information and responses with only some occasional fluff.

I don't figure people really care whether or not I pay much attention to them because while I am hopefully somewhat well liked around here I'm not anything special - but just in case it does make a difference I will make a better effort to respond more to newer members.

I'm not obsessed with what people think - but I do think that in order to have a successful community of any kind communication and understanding without being accusatory or defensive is important.

LatinaRose
05-25-2007, 03:53 AM
I think it would help if people used a little more tact and subtlety when posting. I learned this myself as you can see in the thread I posted about pissing people off on another forum, so I am not preaching just suggesting. It's the internet, so people just post whatever the hell they are thinking with zero regard to sensitivity or common respect. I mean, if it was a good friend or even just a co-worker, would you be so outspoken or would you try to be a little nicer when disagreeing or just plain commenting? Some things are better left unsaid, IMO.

PhillyDancer1982
05-25-2007, 05:14 AM
ITA agree with everything Kaylinn said. It's not so much a clique, it's the pack mentality that outta control. A "popular" member says what they think, then everyone follows suit, in essence "ganging up" on the poster in question. I hope to see the problems get better once we get a mod in here. The overall tone of SW has changed since I've been a member and it would be nice to see a change for the better.

Oh yes I agree completely. A popular member says something and/or disagrees with someone, and then everyone follows suit. On the flip side, an unpopular member will say something and then everyone will assume the worst case scenario about it and immediately start flaming.

I have a term for this kind of behavior: THE BANDWAGON THEORY. Popularity is a very charismatic, powerful force that can inspire people to like them, agree with them, or even find the popular person to be good-looking even if he/she isn't(e.g., Justin Timberlake; plain and ugly, but because Teen People magazine parades him on their cover as "hottest guy alive," all the teens become tricked into thinking he's actually cute).

I've noticed the "bandwagon theory" especially in the strip clubs, with the way customers tip. If a customer sees a girl going in and out of the couchroom, he will be more likely to also want a lapdance from her. On the flip side, if 3 guys in a row don't tip you, it's likely that the 4th guy will see it and also not tip.



ETA: Also, I think a lot more people are outspoken b/c it's the internet. The fake id thread - if you were in the dressing room and heard two girls talking about using a fake id, would you tell them off like some did on this site? No you would probably just keep your mouth shut b/c it's none of your business anyway. But since we're on the internet and no one really knows anyone anyway, it's perfectly okay for people to type their opinions as disrespectful as can be.

Again, I agree. I was telling Mastridonicus this...I'll admit to doing this(not normally; this is a very new, recent development for me). I sometimes use the Internet as an "assertiveness training" for me, and I will purposely respond to threads that I have a differing opinion on, as a way to practice asserting myself and not cowering away just because I disagree. So for me, my disagreeing and disputing on forums is actually a positive thing. But I do agree that some people take it too far, to the point where it is more than being assertive...it is being aggressive or bullying.

Also, sometimes the bigger "cyberbullies" are the very people that are weak, shy, and spineless in real life...hence they use the net as an escape from reality, a chance to indulge in a fantasy of actually being assertive/outspoken(similarly to the way that guys go to a strip club to indulge in fantasy LOL). It is easier for them to talk all macho on the net than in real life, because on the net, they can annonymously hide behind their computer, and they do not have the fear of a bigger person putting a fist through their mouth.

PhillyDancer1982
05-25-2007, 05:18 AM
LOL. I'm totally different once I actually get ot know a person and make friends with them. It's the act of getting over the "getting to know you, making friends" hump that is so hard for me.

OMG same here! I can relate 100%. I am very talkative and outgoing once people get to know me, or if I immediately feel a comfort level with certain people, but for everyone else...I'm very quiet and almost deceptive when you first meet me. Deceptive as in, my innocent look and quiet demeanor convinces people that I'm this virginal good-doing girl. Then when I get comfortable around people, I start making my off-color jokes and people are like !!!!???? "Wow she's different than I expected!" LOL.


I also used to be shy but then I kinda said fuck it here I am - BAM in yo face!! Usually people just laugh at me and we get on ok.

That's what I'm in the process of doing with my own life right now. I'm trying to break out of the mousy unassertive mold. So as a result, sometimes I tend to overdo it(unintentionally), to the point that I look TOO outspoken or snobbish or too much like the classic "stick-in-the-ass." (Hopefully I'll find a happy medium soon)

PhillyDancer1982
05-25-2007, 05:43 AM
I never read the child free thread ( or whatever the hell it was caused. ) I'm assuming this entire thread has spawned from it.,judging by the amount of times it's been mentioned during.

Yes, the child-free thread was a big one that led to controversy and chaos. But the chaos also resulted from my S. M. thread that eventually got deleted. :D


At any rate, My question is why is ANYONE bothered by a message board for fucks sake.

Hmm perhaps the people that do actually get bothered by it, are the people who don't have much of a life? For example, the geeky antisocial types that don't have friends or dates, therefore leaving them with ample time to go on the Internet and attempt to make "friends" there. For them, the Internet may (unfortunately) *be* the only aspect of their "social" life.

I think that for others, they aren't necessarily bothered by a message board itself, but more so bothered by the types of reactions they generally reap. For example, say I post something opinionated and then people on forums consistently misinterpret my words for the worst. Well, that would tell me something important: I lack good clarity and communication skills, and that I must work on that in order to get farther in social situations and life in general. In that case, I could use my interactions and forum responses as a "test" to gage how people in the real world might react. If anything, I think people on a forum are more blunt and brutally honest than people in the real world...they might criticize me in ways that people in the real world might think but not dare tell me.

Roulette
05-25-2007, 05:56 AM
Hmm perhaps the people that do actually get bothered by it, are the people who don't have much of a life? For example, the geeky antisocial types that don't have friends or dates, therefore leaving them with ample time to go on the Internet and attempt to make "friends" there. For them, the Internet may (unfortunately) *be* the only aspect of their "social" life.

I think that for others, they aren't necessarily bothered by a message board itself, but more so bothered by the types of reactions they generally reap. For example, say I post something opinionated and then people on forums consistently misinterpret my words for the worst. Well, that would tell me something important: I lack good clarity and communication skills, and that I must work on that in order to get farther in social situations and life in general. In that case, I could use my interactions and forum responses as a "test" to gage how people in the real world might react. If anything, I think people on a forum are more blunt and brutally honest than people in the real world...they might criticize me in ways that people in the real world might think but not dare tell me.

really? I am insulted. I have ample time to be on here because I am in school and am actively trying not to make make friends or get to know anyone because it inhibits my scholastics. I don't ever use the internet to "meet people" and even if I did, and as others I'm sure do I wouldn't belittle them by saying it's unfortunate. Some people just don't have social skills built up, or they dont really like people in person. I just really disagree with how you phrased that. It sounded very nasty and mean, to me.

and for the second bold thing, I totally agree... i think too many people on here get defensive and jump to conclusions... hell the above could be that as well... I am tired and not as able to see how much of what my reaction was is due to me being cranky or you actually offending me... But just because I am offended by what you said doesnt mean I think any differently about you, I still like you, I dunno... This is al just so silly, Tart had it right... it is just the internet, these are just forums!!

Callyish
05-25-2007, 06:00 AM
Hmm perhaps the people that do actually get bothered by it, are the people who don't have much of a life? For example, the geeky antisocial types that don't have friends or dates, therefore leaving them with ample time to go on the Internet and attempt to make "friends" there. For them, the Internet may (unfortunately) *be* the only aspect of their "social" life.



Im really offended by this.

For me I am on the road what... 48 weeks out of the year? I work 6 days/nights a week in different cities all over the country.

The internet is my connection to the outside world, SW is a place for me to chill out.

Maybe I am a loser then because I dont have time to go out and meet people because I work all the time ::)

Lysondra
05-25-2007, 06:14 AM
I know this is probably going to sound REALLY bad but I kinda have noticed shit too... I even had a theory that if you gave girls x, y, and z a compliment then everyone else would be nicer to you. A lot of people REALLY REALLY hated me months ago and thought I was a self-centred troublesome troll who liked to be centre of attention... The DAY I started 'jumping on the bandwagon' and complimenting Mrs. x,y and z is the day people stopped getting on my case about being an attention whore. No really. Maybe my entire personality changed *shrugged*... but suddenly it seemed like I had a lot more respect because I kissed up? I dunnnoooo.... I'm gonna hide now. And not once did I EVER lie - so every compliment and mean thing I said I at least know were true.

Roulette
05-25-2007, 06:17 AM
^^^ I think it took some guts to say that publicaly.

Callyish
05-25-2007, 06:21 AM
LM that took some serious guts to say and I <3 you for it.

I told you how I felt when we first started talking on IM... it took me awhile to warm up to you but it had nothing to do with you starting to 'kiss ass' on the forum. It was just me being a bitch *blush*

PhillyDancer1982
05-25-2007, 06:46 AM
really? I am insulted. I have ample time to be on here because I am in school and am actively trying not to make make friends or get to know anyone because it inhibits my scholastics. I don't ever use the internet to "meet people" and even if I did, and as others I'm sure do I wouldn't belittle them by saying it's unfortunate. Some people just don't have social skills built up, or they dont really like people in person. I just really disagree with how you phrased that. It sounded very nasty and mean, to me.

See? That *is* an example of people misinterpreting my intentions. So I was right...people DO always see the glass as being half-empty when it comes to my word choice. :( It's been happening all my life with parents, coworkers, and frenemies...no wonder it also happens on the net. Roulette, that isn't completely your fault, it's probably also my fault, for having such shitty communication skills.

Okay let me reclarify so that I do not offend anyone: I did not mean to be offensive. Hells, I didn't even mean the "geeky antisocial" thing towards anyone on SW(except possibly Nerdy...but even he seems to have a life, with his closet affairs and college parties these days lol). I meant the "geeky antisocial" thing in general. How could it apply to strippers anyway?...You have to have a certain amount of guts, confidence, and social skills to perform on stage and to make money as a dancer.

It is fine to spend lots of time on the Internet...it doesn't mean that you "don't have a life." I was basically referring to a specific type of person that DOESN'T go out into the world or to strip clubs, is afraid to face people of any kind, and actually takes forums to heart. You know the type...the type that gets bullied by the bully on his way home from school, gets his lunch money stolen daily, then goes on the Internet and takes his pain out in the form of bullying others, but then takes it to heart when people flame him back. And yeah, I'll be honest here: anyone that IS that spineless, is kind of a geek.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

PhillyDancer1982
05-25-2007, 06:48 AM
I know this is probably going to sound REALLY bad but I kinda have noticed shit too... I even had a theory that if you gave girls x, y, and z a compliment then everyone else would be nicer to you. A lot of people REALLY REALLY hated me months ago and thought I was a self-centred troublesome troll who liked to be centre of attention... The DAY I started 'jumping on the bandwagon' and complimenting Mrs. x,y and z is the day people stopped getting on my case about being an attention whore. No really.

That's pretty much what happened to me when I was in middle school. :( People would flame me, but whenever I tried to agree with the more popular people(i.e., basically every other person in my grade), they called me a "poseur". >:(

britt244
05-25-2007, 08:16 AM
Ok, well here's my question:

Why?!

What the fuck is so entertaining about him? I think his excessive horn dog/whiny behaviour routine is stale.

i'm kinda late on this one.. but anyway.. haha.. esco drove me crazy in my thread about someone breaking into my apt. he was arguing with me about what i should do and kept insisting that i needed to get a webcam that could see the door. i told him it would be really hard the way my apt is set up and that his suggestions were NOT helpful, and he kept going on and on and on and finally when NatalieFRPhilly said get a taser he was like FINE do it your way. (not exact words, but close).

and my point in bringing this up is that i feel like the reverse of LM's theory is true, too. i was hesitant to say anything to him because i know he's a friend of cally's. and instead of how LM felt like if you said something nice to x, y, or z, it earns you points, i feel like if you say anything negative to people who are friends with x, y, or z, no matter if they deserve it, it comes back to bite you in the ass.

BrunetteGoddess
05-25-2007, 08:21 AM
Well just because I love Cally does not mean I'm going to love her custy/friend. I'm sure she knows that and if she hates me for it, so be it. However I really doubt she's the kind of person to hate on you for disliking her friends/custies.

I used to try to kiss asses, but it never did me any good, and if I had a differing opinion I'd just be dying to share it, but it was different from the "bandwagon" opinion so I wouldn't say anything.

Now I just say what I think. Why shouldn't you? people ask you for YOUR opinion, so share it! How helpful is it to see the same side of things?

I've found that in threads where the opinions tends to follow the same side, when I voice my opinion that's different, people actually come forward and say "You know what, I agree, I was just hesitant to go against the general trend".

Callyish
05-25-2007, 08:38 AM
LoL Esco is a character... hes either the kinda guy you love or hate. I dont expect people to like him, and I admit I was shocked to see him on here, he found out about SW from the crazy bitch Moet posting a link on the review board Esco is from.

Anyway im rambling... my point is, I love me my CF and I love the fact shes not a kiss ass :D

I love all the girls on here... obviously there are some im closer to then others, that happens when you meet people in person and hang out with them.

Its just the way things work.

Roulette
05-25-2007, 08:41 AM
I just say what I think. Why shouldn't you? people ask you for YOUR opinion, so share it! How helpful is it to see the same side of things?

I've found that in threads where the opinions tends to follow the same side, when I voice my opinion that's different, people actually come forward and say "You know what, I agree, I was just hesitant to go against the general trend".

:yes: say what you think and mean... That's my rule of tumb, and I always expect others to do the same, but I guess that isnt always the case. I also dont must say "good for you" to anyone willing to go against the gen oppinion in a thread even if they might get pounced on for it. It does help others feel comfortable saying yeah I think so too! and then you really do get the honest answers to yuor questions and many options that you may not have even known were there...