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Yekhefah
06-01-2007, 08:58 AM
Fifteen pills a day? For what??

cameron_keys
06-01-2007, 09:06 AM
Fifteen pills a day? For what??

I have a malformed pancreas and gallbladder. My diet is fairly strict and I take several scripts to combat the problem. To stop the formation of gallstones. To help my pancreas break down the food I eat and to stop it from spontaneously seizuring causing the most unimaginable pain I've ever felt.
Add to that my birth control pills, asthma meds, pills i take on an as-needed basis like sleeping pills for insomnia and pain pills for the times my pancreas seizes in spite of the meds, and non prescription pills like vitamins and Tonalin and it can be even more then 15 in a day.

Yekhefah
06-01-2007, 09:12 AM
Damn. That sucks. I'm sorry. :(

cameron_keys
06-01-2007, 09:21 AM
Damn. That sucks. I'm sorry. :(

Yeah....but I'm used to it. And it's better then the alternative which is to spend a great deal of my life doubled over screaming in pain. It took over 15 years to FINALLY find a doctor that correctly diagnosed me. I've had this pain sinec I was a kid...getting slowly worse to the level of intolerable as I got older. Every doctor told me something differant...colitis, ulcers, etc.... Finally a few years ago I found a gastroenterologist that had me do an endoscopy and found what tha actual problem is. We tried a few combos of meds before we found the one that keeps me fairly healthy and pain free..at least 90% of the time. So for the first time in my life I can actually live with relatively little fear of suddenly being hit with wracking pain through my body.

So considering the differnace in my life now...i'm perfectly happy to take these pills!

Hatshepsut
06-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Thanks Cameron... suddenly my problem isn't so bad.

It looks like I'm going to order from the Canadian website after all, as soon as we can get a prescription for the 20 mg pills.

gingerlee
06-01-2007, 06:37 PM
Yep..as Chris Rock so eloquently out it.."the money's in the comeback..."
I take 15 pills a day. I will have to do so for the rest of my life or face daily bonecrushing pain. And I'm facing the very real possibility of being put on psych drugs. Also likely for the rest of my life. Somebodys yacht is being financed by my illnesses.

I will burn down that yacht in your honor. Well, it would make me feel better about them screwing me over too (because lord knows they will never be able to cure me), so I'll do it for both of us. ;D

Optimist
06-01-2007, 09:29 PM
Usually Jenny and I are at opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I'm with her on this one. Nobody's saying they shouldn't turn a profit, but there comes a point when capitalism becomes racketeering. Big Pharm has passed that point.


It's a simple matter of ethics. Remember when they used to teach ethics?

Thank you for saying succinctly what I've been trying to say!! They're holding the fucking medicine hostage with those prices!

Yekhefah
06-01-2007, 10:00 PM
Seriously. When my grandfather was a young man studying business and economics, they had a class called Business Ethics. Every well-educated businessman (my grandfather has owned several businesses and holds a Master of Economics) of his generation had to take that class. Anyone ever heard of such a class these days? The very phrase "business ethics" is a total joke now.

We know this, but I still say Big Pharm has gone way beyond the pale. They are more insidious than Big Oil or any other special interest that gets scapegoated. It's completely disgusting.

Hatshepsut
06-01-2007, 10:18 PM
Pfft. Business and media ethics aren't jokes, they're freaking oxymorons.

Kaylinn
06-02-2007, 04:23 AM
Usually Jenny and I are at opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I'm with her on this one. Nobody's saying they shouldn't turn a profit, but there comes a point when capitalism becomes racketeering. Big Pharm has passed that point.

I am completely and utterly revolted at the pervasiveness with which they have infiltrated our society. My 80-year-old grandmother is constantly feeling like hell but they don't know why; well, I know why! It's because they've got her on a zillion drugs just because of her age, and the side effects and interactions are ruining these years when she should be enjoying her home and family. More than 75% of the children in this country - CHILDREN, mind you, self included when I was 13 - have been on psychiatric medication. More than half the adult population is taking psychiatric medication right now. You are not going to convince me that we all need to be drugged just to get through life.

Meanwhile, we have a zillion new allergy meds and a zillion new antidepressants hitting the market every few months - which coincidentally need to be taken every single day for the rest of your life, hmm - and we haven't had a new antibiotic since the 1970's, even though the bacteria that sicken us have become increasingly resistant to all our antibiotics. When a serious mutation hits, we are going to be completely unprepared, and why? Because you only take an antibiotic for a week or two and then you're better. They make more money pushing Ritalin on fidgety little kids every single day.

I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Anybody think we'll ever actually find a cure for anything, like cancer or AIDS? Of course not. There's no money in cures, just in long-term daily treatment. And while we're at it, let's convince the entire population that they're too weak to get through life without dope, and then charge them through the teeth. And if a few thousand teenagers kill themselves due to the medication, or a few thousand moms and dads die because they'd rather feed their kids than drop several hundred a month on pills they need... ah well. Now they sleep with the fishes.

It's a simple matter of ethics. Remember when they used to teach ethics?


Sorry, Im comming in late, but I saw this and wanted to comment.

I truly believe there IS a cure for cancer, aids, whatever already, right now.
However...as you said, there is no money in cures. The pharmaseutical companies woudl never allow a cure for cancer to be released to the public. They would go bankrupt. Espicially, I think, with HIV,since thoes people need to take drugs for a good 20-30 years before they die. And HIV medication is expensive. Tha's damn good profit for drug companies. I also believbe if you have the money, you can get ahold of the cure. Like Magic Johnson ( right?)
his viral load has been zero for years and years now. Its liek his HIV is in remission. And yeah...that happens, espicially to peopel who take care of themselves, but it shoudl come back one day, and for some reason, his isn't comming back. Was he cured? WHo knows. I think so tho. How many peple die of cancer each and every year? How many are celebrities? Why is it that celebrities are always able to be cured? Sure, they have the money for the best health care possible, which I'm sure helps a ton.

I've gotten off my own topic, LOL.
Short story - I believe there is a cure for cancer and aids. The drug companies just wont allow it cause they'd lose to much money.
( aside from ethical reasons, is this another reason they wont allow stem cell research?)

Sorry to threadjac, and so late in the threadd, LOL.

Hatshepsut
06-02-2007, 07:10 AM
^I agree too. I read a medical journal that was about pancreatic implants for treating (possibly curing!) diabetes. It took place in Brazil, even though we have the cutting edge technology. The article mentioned that the project could not get funded in the US, so my first thought was, "Oohhhh big drug companies don't want their sales of lifelong drug dependence to go down."

cameron_keys
06-02-2007, 07:49 AM
I will burn down that yacht in your honor. Well, it would make me feel better about them screwing me over too (because lord knows they will never be able to cure me), so I'll do it for both of us. ;D

As long as we can burn huge stuffed BIG PHARM dummies in effigy on the boat!

I feel for you honey...I'll never be cured either. There's one surgery my doctor said...it's extremely invasive, extremely painful, has a super long recovery time. etc...etc... and only has about a 20% chance of making me ANY better...and about the same chance of actually making me worse. So..no...I'll take pills thanks.
It just sucks that, should anything happen to my insurance..I wont be able to afford to live. My one script was held up in shipping at one point...NO pharmacy on the east coast had it for days. Just a few days off it and I was literally curled up in a ball clutching my gut sobbing and screaming in pain.On vacation too...FUN! As much as I try to not take my pain pills because I never want to get addicted...I ate vicodin like freakin' Pez for those 3 days.:-[

Yekhefah
06-02-2007, 09:04 AM
Kaylinn, you're absolutely right. And that's a good point about stem cell research.

VegasPrincess
06-02-2007, 12:25 PM
That is fucked up!! Some insurance company deemed it only neccessary to have sex 5 x a month? What the fuck?

gingerlee
06-02-2007, 05:24 PM
As long as we can burn huge stuffed BIG PHARM dummies in effigy on the boat!



*Lights a match*

Hatshepsut
06-02-2007, 05:58 PM
That is fucked up!! Some insurance company deemed it only neccessary to have sex 5 x a month? What the fuck?
They must assume that we're an old married couple who only has sex that many times a month. We're horny and young, dammit!

Kaylinn
06-02-2007, 06:16 PM
Hmm....

I would go find all the research out there that says it is recommended to have sex 3 times a week, because it's good for your heart, and soul.

I've seen the research that says sex 3 times a week helps peopel live longer. It not onyl keeps yu happy, but it is good cardio!

I'd find all the credible research you can find, and petition the insurance company.

Mr Hyde
06-02-2007, 07:31 PM
Oh gosh. I haven't thought this through. Damn you with your follow up questions!
Okay, offhand - why could they not operate as a non-profit collective - still paying the researchers and administrative personnel well, but not making profit for shareholders?

In a perfect world, that would be nice, but what you describe is the way that communist countries work, for the most part, and that's why they failed.

No one is going to fund the bazillions of dollars it takes to bring drugs to market out of the goodness of their heart. It's easy to donate a little here and there to charity, but it takes a TON of money to develop new drugs, and charities can't do it. Chemists can make more doing other things than providing charity.

But let's say a charity does try this...

Can a charity compete with the salaries that a pharm company would pay them to develop drugs? Never, so they'd always get the second best people, and be outcompeted by for-profit companies.

Note-I'm not saying that this is all perfect, it's just the best way we have to make sure that we get the drugs we need.

Lysondra
06-03-2007, 06:29 PM
They must assume that we're an old married couple who only has sex that many times a month. We're horny and young, dammit!

NO LALALALLALALALA *hands over ears* ONLY OLD PEOPLE HAVE SEX PROBLEMS LALALALALALALA...