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pacman
06-06-2007, 10:51 AM
k first, that is absolutely sickening...wow...who knew..I guess it takes all kinds to make the world...MEssed up!
Second...how did you stroll upon this sort of thing? Just curious.

Jenny
06-06-2007, 10:54 AM
I can kinda sorta almost wrap my brain around why they might, but it's still rather shocking.
Yeah, I can't - like I absolutely can't - view this as anything but a severe disorder. Although, if you identify as part of a group that is so defined by disease - getting it, avoiding it, etc., the constant fear and the sort of subliminal cultural understanding that somehow it is "deserved" there might be a drive to just get it, and get it over with that could become fetishized. It's like then there is nothing left to be so scared of, and you've "paid up" as it were.

southstbabe
06-06-2007, 11:07 AM
Jeeze Louise, WTF is this world coming to?

teeth_of_the_hydra
06-06-2007, 11:15 AM
^^^ I kind of figured it was something like that... that is, HIV being the worst that could possibly happen, so once you're infected everything else is like, "so what?" But it still horrifies me that these people are boasting about not just their infected status, but their active SYMPTOMS. Did you (or anyone) look at the thread with the pictures of their genital warts, their syphilis chancres, or their oral/anal gonnorhea? I simply don't understand how a human being-- a species who has an understanding of life and death and a characteristic drive for self-preservation-- could possiby make the switch from "I want to live a long (and therefore healthy) life" to "I want to suffer in a variety of miserable, painful ways before I die at an early age." I can't even begin to understand HOW that happens to the mind of an individual, much less to a group of people comprising a subculture. (BTW, I'm not arguing with you, Jenny... I just realized it sounded like maybe I was. I'm just so deeply disturbed that I'm babbling to sort things out in my head. On the bright side, a grad degree in Public Health sounds so much more purposeful today than it did yesterday. And lifelong monogamy sounds completely excellent.)

Tart
06-06-2007, 11:17 AM
I came across this via a friend who always finds fucked up shit. We have this "thing" where we try to out do one another in finding something that is completely shocking. Usually I win. I think he might have just won forever with that link.

xdamage
06-06-2007, 01:01 PM
... the constant fear and the sort of subliminal cultural understanding that somehow it is "deserved" there might be a drive to just get it, and get it over with that could become fetishized. It's like then there is nothing left to be so scared of, and you've "paid up" as it were.

That might well be a good insight into the underlying fetish here. I don't know if it is, but that sounds like a good possibility to me (and if nothing else, a good example of trying to put oneself in another persons shoes, no matter how twisted this is). I admit I find it curious, sickening, but curious as to what's going on their brains.

Embyr
06-06-2007, 01:28 PM
Well, the way it was explained in Queer as Folk, was as a type of empowerment. A bridge-crossing... an acceptance of an almost "inevitable" fate that was surrounded by so much fear, hush-hush, politics, and stigma, that to go ahead and EMBRACE the disease willingly was the biggest FUCK you to mainstream (and hetereosexual/homophobic society) possible, as well as a huge fuck you to living in constant fear and "over-careful" protection. It is a sick-twist on the "in-crowd."

xdamage
06-06-2007, 01:33 PM
Well, the way it was explained in Queer as Folk, was....It is a sick-twist on the "in-crowd."

Weird stuff, but I can buy that. I'm too much of a survivor type to want to give the fuck up, but that explanation makes sense (however twisted ;))

Embyr
06-06-2007, 01:37 PM
^^^ you also must put it in the context of a mostly gay male subculture... read tart's link again... these guys are "pigs," "bears," "barebackers" of all sorts... you are a straight male, a parent... you're not off partying and doing "poppers" all weekend sticking your dick in random holes in a wall hoping/not caring to catch something... just a LEetle bit of a different lifestyle. :-\ to them it's not giving up... it's bucking up... literally.

xdamage
06-06-2007, 01:40 PM
^^^

All (very) valid points Embyr.

Lola Rose
06-06-2007, 02:01 PM
"My boyfriend and I love to spread diseases. We shoot our poz seed in every unprotected hole we can get. "

"poz parTy pig in sarasota here...."

"party pig in ft laud. I get over to Sarasota/ft myers monthly...like to party n play n get piggy.. "



THEY"RE IN MY TOWN!!!!!

Tart
06-06-2007, 02:02 PM
^ hahah they are all OVER chicago. like down the street...

cameron_keys
06-06-2007, 02:07 PM
"My boyfriend and I love to spread diseases. We shoot our poz seed in every unprotected hole we can get. "

"poz parTy pig in sarasota here...."

"party pig in ft laud. I get over to Sarasota/ft myers monthly...like to party n play n get piggy.. "



THEY"RE IN MY TOWN!!!!!

Oh there are a ton here in FL. I dont know about THESE actual type of people(sick as fuck..but sadly, nothing surprises me any more) but I believe not long ago Broward County Fl was listed the highest percentage of HIV+ cases in the country.
I know that it is super prevalant in the gay community here. When I was shooting the gay series I did..we had to cancel MANY times because our top came up positive in his quick test. SCARY.

Embyr
06-06-2007, 02:22 PM
^^^ THAT actually is scary.

teeth_of_the_hydra
06-06-2007, 07:09 PM
Oh there are a ton here in FL. I dont know about THESE actual type of people(sick as fuck..but sadly, nothing surprises me any more) but I believe not long ago Broward County Fl was listed the highest percentage of HIV+ cases in the country.

Yeah I went to get HIV tested today... admittedly because this thread spooked me so much (but in a good, proactive, health-happy way) and the guy here told me that Key West has the highest per capita rate in the nation, but all of south FL is really, really high.

Lola, I noticed the SRQ guy's thread and I got the same heebeejeebees as you.

Oh, and my test came back negative, as expected. But yikes, AIDS is so fucking scary.

miss marina
06-06-2007, 07:47 PM
^ it made me want to go too =/

cameron_keys
06-06-2007, 07:48 PM
Yeah I went to get HIV tested today... admittedly because this thread spooked me so much (but in a good, proactive, health-happy way) and the guy here told me that Key West has the highest per capita rate in the nation, but all of south FL is really, really high.

Lola, I noticed the SRQ guy's thread and I got the same heebeejeebees as you.

Oh, and my test came back negative, as expected. But yikes, AIDS is so fucking scary.

Yeah thats why, every 28 days when I have to get tested, I hold my breath until the test comes back. I'm always negative..but it's so freaking scary...

hyzenthflay
06-06-2007, 10:02 PM
I read about this in Rolling Stone a few years ago. I couldn't believe it!!

BalletBaby
06-06-2007, 10:24 PM
WTF!?:O That is some crazy shit. Not to mention some of the reasons they give because you're going to die anyway.

"As for HIV going to kill me? Well breathing Earth air is just about as dangerous these days. And for that matter so are the idiot politicians in control of my life and yours. It's not as complicated as you think. "

"why would anyone do any of the following things as it will eventually kill them. Smoking, drugs, eating tasty foods, what else? Oh yeah, driving in a car lots of people die there every year. "

This kinda makes sense:

"partly its about control. by fetishising the virus we're rising above victim status and turning the situation into something we've chosen. partly its what i call the marquis de sade syndrome; the more sexual partners you have the more bizzare and twisted you become to achieve sexual satisfaction."

But, yeah, really really scary.

redhothoney
06-06-2007, 10:36 PM
has the world always been this sick or is it getting worse

Samba
06-06-2007, 10:54 PM
That night the board got invaded by the bodybuilding guys, I went over to the forums and did a "stripper" search to see if they were posting about the trolling and a thread came up about other websites. It had links to SW and to that shit, and some bestiality site.

Every day I lose a little faith in humanity.

Dottie Rebel
06-07-2007, 02:12 AM
has the world always been this sick or is it getting worse

It is my personal belief that this level of fucked-up-edness has always existed, but the current situation of the world has blown this type of thing up exponentially.

Just look at Hitler, Elizabeth Bathory (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/bathory/countess_1.html) (who killed young women for fun and bathed in their blood to keep her looking young), or, fuck, Christopher Columbus. It is a known fact that he abducted native girls as young as 12 to present to his admirals as "presents"--to rape and do with as they pleased. Granted, these are not tantamount to behaviors that are purely self-destructive, but my point is that they's always been some crazy ass sumbitches in the world. For reals.

Only now there are almost 7 BILLION of us and we can get all up on the internet and find every other person in the world who is crazy in the exact same fucked up way that we are, validating our behavior and actually encouraging us to use it to form our identity and give us a sense of belonging.

xdamage
06-07-2007, 03:45 PM
^^^

That's pretty much exactly the way I look at it too Dottie Rebel. Extremes of behavior, size, intelligence, strength, health, and more have always existed. Like you said, there are now a lot more of us, and several technological advances that magnify the extremes, advances that didn't exist but in the last 100 years. Near instant communications around the world; fast travel; medicine and food that has prolonged average lifespans from around 40 years to nearly 70; the self destructive and sick tended to die off faster as well as travel less and spread diseases and screwed up genes more slowly in the past, etc.

LuckiCharm
06-07-2007, 07:51 PM
They're literally "congradulating" eachother on catching HIV...Whhooaaa....

carolina6
06-08-2007, 01:53 AM
I think once you hate yourself enough, you'll do whatever you can to harm yourself, especially if you can't bring yourself to just commit suicide.

I know a lot of HIV positive people don't take their drugs for one reason or another, but these guys seem to be having a competition. I wonder what they do when forum members die. Are they happy or sad?

Thanks for giving me a website I can use to shock my friends though. Nothing seems to get them anymore.

KentuckyMysteryMan
06-08-2007, 02:01 AM
That website if just disgusting. I can't believe ppl actually do that.

I saw that beast forum also. I can't figure out why someone would wanna have sex with an animal. I mean, how is someone sexually attracted to an animal? There were even some very attactive women on there into that beastality stuff. I don't get it.

LuckiCharm
06-08-2007, 07:48 AM
Where the hell are ya'll finding these forums?!

One guy on that HIV forum was talking about how he didn't have to even use lube on his partners ass anymore because there was so much slime from his ghonnerea....that's when I stopped reading it EW EW EW EW EWWW

Mr Hyde
06-08-2007, 08:28 AM
You know the most disturbing thing about that site?

That many of them are fucking with their meds to try to create drug-resistant strains.

I don't give a fuck of these freaks want to kill each other. Good riddance.

But fucking with other people...

Other than kiddie porn, this is perhaps the most disturbing thing I've ever heard of.

Tart
06-08-2007, 04:14 PM
^ True

cherry_sin
06-08-2007, 05:16 PM
Tart.... you said you wanted to find people eating forums.... check out the dolcett girls website.

Don't ask how I know, I'm not even getting into it.

TheSexKitten
06-08-2007, 06:29 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ zomg.

I am reading it right now! O.O

Casual Observer
06-09-2007, 05:35 AM
Just when you think you have some dark motives of your own, this sort of thing comes along.

smartcookie
06-09-2007, 01:54 PM
And who is paying for the healthcare for these individuals, I wonder? People like this shouldn't be eligible for any sort of health care coverage or benefits.

StevieStar7
06-09-2007, 08:02 PM
7 words: Gene Police: YOU! OUT OF THE POOL!!!

StevieStar7
06-09-2007, 08:08 PM
This is one of those instances where you'd like to invite all of these lunatics to a single place under the auspices of some sort of HIV positive gangbang, and then once they're all inside, just blow the fucking building up.


No Shit!!!

FrustratedBunny
06-09-2007, 09:29 PM
wtf is wrong with people? Some dude has a pic of his bloody asshole on there. yucko. I'm all for freedom to do whatever you want, but WHY would you want AIDS?

FrustratedBunny
06-09-2007, 09:36 PM
oh, and I just came across this post when I did a search for New Orleans. Seems sort of stupid to ask if it's "safe" in New Orleans. :-\


hey, just wondering: does it feel safe these days in the french quarter?? staying for a week in july and kinda curious in light of recent news reports

Mr Hyde
06-10-2007, 09:42 AM
oh, and I just came across this post when I did a search for New Orleans. Seems sort of stupid to ask if it's "safe" in New Orleans. :-\

Yeah, god knows he wouldn't want to be killed or beat up by someone before he gets his asshole reamed out by an AIDS-ridden guy wearing a spiked prince albert stud.

TheSexKitten
06-10-2007, 11:35 AM
Dude did no one else chect out the Dolcett girls forum?!?!?!?!

That shit is INSANE!!!!!!!

Kaiyla
06-10-2007, 12:20 PM
^ I checked it out. I looked at one of the galleries and it was kinda silly. Like cartoons and stuff.

jannisary
06-10-2007, 04:58 PM
Dolcett? Are you talking about this site? http://www.necrobabes.org/dolcett/


Oh, maybe you were talking about this one http://forum.dolcettgirls.com/

The things you can find with google!

LuckiCharm
06-10-2007, 06:25 PM
I went to the Dolcett forum. Maybe I didn't look enough but I didn't see any posts on there to indicate they actually eat eachother. Most of it was just them talking shit about it being a fantasy.

cherry_sin
06-10-2007, 06:34 PM
I know for a fact that at least 2 dozen girls last year made the Dolcett thing a reality.

Again, not going into how I know this.

Mr Hyde
06-10-2007, 06:49 PM
OK you can't just throw that out there and not tell us more.

You're saying that you know of 24 girls who allowed themselves to be eaten?

I find that hard to believe.

AlexxaHex
06-10-2007, 07:04 PM
I thought about signing up but I don't know if my IP will be flagged by some FBI thing.

LuckiCharm
06-11-2007, 08:05 AM
I thought about signing up but I don't know if my IP will be flagged by some FBI thing.

I had to make an ID because it wouldn't let me in without one.

cherry_sin
06-11-2007, 08:53 AM
It's called assisted suicide, Mr. Hyde. There are some seriously fucked up people in this world.

Some of the girls were also lifestyle slaves on the very extreme end who were given a choice - that or to be released.

shirtystrumpet
06-11-2007, 10:23 AM
There are definitely some fucked up people, but, wow, 24 does seem a tad excessive.
I cannot imagine how that could happen and not attract any attention at all.

cherry_sin
06-11-2007, 10:37 AM
Dig through the forums... there's plenty of girls who are voluntarily signing away all human rights. There's also a webpage with some girls *live* pics of them holding their ID, smiling, and holding a Dolcett Girls sign, then a detailed narrative of process, and obits. Real, actual obits, girls names matching, recent dates, and findeable on the net if you dig through the papers back logs.

sounds sick. Sounds twisted.

Is sick. Is twisted.

But is very, very real.

Jenny
06-11-2007, 11:10 AM
You can't sign away human rights, voluntarily or otherwise. I mean I'm sure it is symbolic, but you can't sign a contract to have someone eat you. That is just not going to be binding.