View Full Version : Paris Is Out Of Jail
sc0101
06-07-2007, 03:22 PM
yes we do...$$$
Proof please. Kthx. Other than that if you can't show proof don't say you know why.
yogibear179
06-07-2007, 03:33 PM
she gets to stay home...
i wonder how huge her house is
PookaShell
06-07-2007, 03:40 PM
My main point in saying that we don't know her was that although we can speculate, we don't actually know WHY she was really released from jail.
The point is - she was released. She got special priveleges. The day I spent in county jail I watched a woman gushing blood from both of her eyeballs get thrown a wad of toilet paper and told to clean that mess up. So "medical concerns"...right.
sc0101
06-07-2007, 03:43 PM
The point is - she was released. She got special priveleges. The day I spent in county jail I watched a woman gushing blood from both of her eyeballs get thrown a wad of toilet paper and told to clean that mess up. So "medical concerns"...right.
How do we know she doesn't have cancer or something very serious? We don't know anything. I hate speculation.
PookaShell
06-07-2007, 03:44 PM
Haha. Okay. Well if she does that would have been some might-ay convenient timing.
sc0101
06-07-2007, 03:46 PM
My point is who knows, why act like you actually know anything? We're all just people behind our computers with no idea what has happened or goes on in her life. I don't agree with the way she lives with her life but I'm not going to pretend I know what the fuck is going on with her when I don't.
Since when is being famous a medical condition? Perhaps I missed something?
cherryripeboyII
06-07-2007, 03:50 PM
YOu know what they should do? Lock her up in the Big Brother house! With a Big Brother cast! That would be torture. "The Simple Life: House Arrest"}:D
Hey, Lohan and a few others could join in on this celeb big brother! Oh and they can't be voted off, only voted into an isolation room with a copy of 1 book... humm :D
PookaShell
06-07-2007, 04:00 PM
My point is who knows, why act like you actually know anything? We're all just people behind our computers with no idea what has happened or goes on in her life. I don't agree with the way she lives with her life but I'm not going to pretend I know what the fuck is going on with her when I don't.
Its a common sense thing. They have medical staff onhand at jails. If she were sick, and were any other person in jail, she would have gotten care there and carried on with her sentence.
sc0101
06-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Its a common sense thing. They have medical staff onhand at jails. If she were sick, and were any other person in jail, she would have gotten care there and carried on with her sentence.
Again, who knows. I never will. You never will. Who cares.
Weren't there people in that same jail who had staph infections? Were they sent home? Nooooooooooooooooo.
space_Cadet_28
06-07-2007, 04:10 PM
The point is - she was released. She got special priveleges. The day I spent in county jail I watched a woman gushing blood from both of her eyeballs get thrown a wad of toilet paper and told to clean that mess up. So "medical concerns"...right.
It is very possible this is normal treatment. Due to overcrowding many, many people served 10% of their sentences in LA city jails.
PaigeDWinter
06-07-2007, 04:25 PM
Unless she had a super contagious disease and they were worried about the welfare of the population and staff (in which case they wouldn't send her home, they'd send her to a special facility to be quarantined), I'm not buying that she was sent home due to health. Anyone else in jail would be stuck there, health reasons or not. Worst case scenario, she was ill beyond the jail's medical staff's capacity...? She'd be shackled and taken to the ER. But no, this is Paris. There is almost certainly more to the story.
Cyndi08
06-07-2007, 04:26 PM
oh, yeah! when people have mental breakdowns, that's just what we need is to have them back in mainstream society!!
let's let all the crazies in prison out! how about the ones who pleaded insanity for murder??? just let em all go!
^^for the record, I do believe that insanity is a valid defense, but one should NOT be released on that basis... moved to another facility perhaps
They should have thrown her in a mental hospital.
PookaShell
06-07-2007, 04:33 PM
If it was overcrowded, she wouldn't have had a double cell to herself in the high security section.
Mr Hyde
06-07-2007, 05:00 PM
CNN news says with extensive consultation with medical professionals they decide to let her out. And her privacy was compromised.
So I have to assume that ALL jail inmates are given the same opportunity to consult with medical professionals about their condition, and if their medical conditions warrant, they're given a release too?
Yeah, I'm sure that's the way it works, and I'm even more sure that Paris was suffering from something to horrible, medically, that she couldn't stay in her own isolated cell for three weeks.
Uh huh.
Melonie
06-07-2007, 05:33 PM
this is a simple case of those who live by the law dying by the law. In other words, if the truth were known, I would bet that Paris was gearing up an army of attorneys to sue the city / county for mistreatment plus pain and suffering damages because the city / county was forcing her to remain in a penal facility against her will where she was being exposed to a known antibiotic resistant staph infection health risk. Had her lawsuit been successful, it's distinctly possible that some judge would have ordered the city / county to shut down the penal facility and relocate (or release) all of the prisoners until the staph infection was eradicated. In the absence of empty jail cells in some other facility (and with the exception of the VIP wings ALL California jails are full to bursting), this would have potentially translated into 2000 criminals being released in the LA area. The precedent could easily have extended to other California jails as well that undoubtedly also harbor staph, forcing the release of even more criminals in other California cities !
TheSexKitten
06-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Hmm. Interesting perspective, Melonie!!
xdamage
06-07-2007, 05:42 PM
I'm surprised she spent as much time as she did in jail. Fairness = haha
space_Cadet_28
06-07-2007, 05:42 PM
Well the news analysis concluded it is very unusual to get out of jail for a medical condition and it's also very unusual to get a 45 day sentence for a probation violation.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3255960&page=1
http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=a4dd0a7f-3ead-4ad6-b8f0-b5d47d7c1406&k=10432&p=2
Cyndi08
06-07-2007, 05:44 PM
I definitely think the justice system was threatened by the possible consequences of irritating such a wealthy family!
virgoamm
06-07-2007, 05:51 PM
This just in: she may be going back.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070608/ap_on_en_tv/paris_hilton;_ylt=AuVvpi31KGeH2s6moWGWkVPMWM0F
Cyndi08
06-07-2007, 05:53 PM
^^ with luck!
BrunetteGoddess
06-07-2007, 05:56 PM
There's no fucking medical illness being suffered by Paris Hilton that's so bad she needed to leave. if she can party constantly, she's not that sick.
I don't know what to say...I'm sick of hearing about her and Lohan. I just don't care anymore. ::)
virgoamm
06-07-2007, 06:32 PM
Yeah, I'm tired of hearing it too-but this is really a slap in the face to ordinary citizens. Just goes to show you how corrupt our legal system is and if you have money the laws don't "really" apply to you. There are people in jail with AIDS, cancer, hepatitis-you name it, and they don't get to leave. >:(
PookaShell
06-07-2007, 06:37 PM
45 day sentence might have been kind of long, but its supposed to be punishment? Doy. Sposed to kinda suck. My brother got sentenced 60 days for violating his probation. My best friends mom got sentenced to 6 months for violating her probation. I don't think they were over-harsh on her.
jaizaine
06-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Ok I like Paris Hilton, I am a fan.
I did not think she should have gone to jail in the first place BUT
this illustrates the fact that we are not all equal in the eyes of the law.
Money and fame = above the law and no one should be above the law.
I would like the same treatment if I was in her situation but I am a nobody so I would not get that treatment. This world sucks sometimes.
Alaska
06-07-2007, 07:17 PM
Lol, my friend returned from a flight from L.A. the other day and had the misfortune of sitting in front of 3 Long Island girls who had flown out just to see her get locked up...but they had put her away a day early instead...and now she's out again...I wonder if they feel accomplished
ArmySGT.
06-07-2007, 07:17 PM
Who wrote the check? What was the amount?
Yeah, I'm tired of hearing it too-but this is really a slap in the face to ordinary citizens. Just goes to show you how corrupt our legal system is and if you have money the laws don't "really" apply to you. There are people in jail with AIDS, cancer, hepatitis-you name it, and they don't get to leave. >:(
Yeah...this is just really fucked up. It really doesn't surprise me, though. It's all about the $$$....
AlexxaHex
06-07-2007, 07:30 PM
Ok I like Paris Hilton, I am a fan.
I did not think she should have gone to jail in the first place BUT
this illustrates the fact that we are not all equal in the eyes of the law.
Money and fame = above the law and no one should be above the law.
I would like the same treatment if I was in her situation but I am a nobody so I would not get that treatment. This world sucks sometimes.
I'm sorry, but the woman was caught driving DRUNK and therefore YES she should have gone to jail.
Ya know I like Lil' Kim but I do think she got what she deserved for committing perjury.
jaizaine
06-07-2007, 07:32 PM
^^
Well that's your opinion.
As I have said in this thread, and yes I am coming from an Australian perspective on things, we have rapists in my country who get 2 years or less and then get out early for good behaviour. That's why I dont think she should have got jail time.
xdamage
06-07-2007, 07:35 PM
^^
Well that's your opinion.
As I have said in this thread, and yes I am coming from an Australian perspective on things, we have rapists in my country who get 2 years or less and then get out early for good behaviour. That's why I dont think she should have got jail time.
Two wrongs don't make a right and all... rapists should be locked away until their dicks and balls are shriveled up, but hey, I don't get to make the laws. Personally I think 45 days or so would have been appropriate, even 22 days, but 3 days??? Doesn't seem right.
jaizaine
06-07-2007, 07:40 PM
Well I know two wrongs don't make a right but that's irrelevant.
Sentencing has to be based on the gravity of the crime.
Maybe I have a different perspective coz I'm Australian. People here dont get jailed for that. Maybe they should.... There are some shocking repeat offenders here that constantly loose their licence for drink driving and they just get warning after warning.
Kaylinn
06-07-2007, 07:40 PM
I am disappointed she didnt last, however....
We don't know the whole story, she may have really had a medical issue. Yeah....thats a reach, and probably like, 99.999% untrue, but I will not judge until I have all the facts.
I dont knwo why if she had a medical issue so bad she had to get out of jail for..why didnt she go to the hospital until she was better, then go back to jail??
yeah...probably just a way out, but still.....
Even lasting 5 days or whatever, is still more than I could handle. Im SCARED of jail. That's why I never been there.
sc0101
06-07-2007, 07:41 PM
They're saying it was a mental issue, nothing physical.
jaizaine
06-07-2007, 07:46 PM
I think it's unfortunate that some people take delight in Paris being punished just because she is rich and famous.
If u think she should have got jail because of her crime then fine, that's fair enough. But if the reason you thought she should go to jail or the reason that you took so much pleasure in it is because she was born into a life of priviledge and wealth then that's sad.
Who wouldn't want that sort of wealth if they had the opportunity?
xdamage
06-07-2007, 07:46 PM
Well I know two wrongs don't make a right but that's irrelevant.
Sentencing has to be based on the gravity of the crime.
Maybe I have a different perspective coz I'm Australian. People here dont get jailed for that. Maybe they should.... There are some shocking repeat offenders here that constantly loose their licence for drink driving and they just get warning after warning.
I guess it's because I tend to divide crimes up into what I think of as mostly as harmless (e.g., an escort and a customer both agreeing to something; a buyer and a seller of a recreational drug both agreeing to something), and then crimes of one party clearly violating another human beings happyiness/freedoms (rape being an example), and then a 3rd category which I'd place Paris in, engaging in behavior that puts others at serious risk (though not intentionally malicious). In my mind the weighting for punishment should be:
Two adults agreeing = minimal punishment
Putting others at serious risk without their consent = moderate punishment (e.g., Paris = drunk puts others at serious risk)
Harming others with intent to do so = maximum punishment (e.g., rape)
Unfortunately the law and punishment to me often seems schizophrenic :-X
But it does seem to me that more then 3 days would have been appropriate - drunk driving puts others at serious risk of injury, death, major expensive. Not cool.
Yekhefah
06-07-2007, 07:46 PM
She got to go home because jail was too upsetting. Pffft. I'm not usually supportive of inmate lawsuits, but I REALLY hope that every single inmate in that prison files to have her sentence commuted to house arrest on the same grounds. Presumably they are ALL upset and suffering some distress - it's fucking prison, after all - and if Paris Hilton gets to go home because she's upset, then they should be able to petition for that too. I would like to see the whole damn prison do a class-action suit and I'd like the ACLU to pick it up. Maybe if they make a big hoo-haa over this and it costs a few politicians their jobs, we might actually start holding celebrities to the same laws the rest of us have to follow.
Of course, I'm starting to think my dad is right. This is a big distraction scheme; they released Paris Hilton so that everyone would be too busy paying attention to her to keep track of what's going on with the amnesty bill.
jaizaine
06-07-2007, 07:47 PM
Have to agree with u there Xdamage.
Kaylinn
06-07-2007, 07:54 PM
I think it's unfortunate that some people take delight in Paris being punished just because she is rich and famous.
If u think she should have got jail because of her crime then fine, that's fair enough. But if the reason you thought she should go to jail or the reason that you took so much pleasure in it is because she was born into a life of priviledge and wealth then that's sad.
Who wouldn't want that sort of wealth if they had the opportunity?
Yeah....I agree here. So many peopl bitch abtou how she is a spoiled little rich girl.....
But how many of us woudl kill to be born into that life?
And the ones that say I wouldnt are the ones who have never had to go hungry, even for a day.
xdamage
06-07-2007, 07:55 PM
^^^
I have nothing against Paris as such, but yea, you know nobody wants to see themselves, their kids, their parents, have their lives fucked up due to a drunk driver. And it's not like Paris can't afford a cab ride. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect drivers to understand this, alcohol and driving don't mix. I'm not saying make Paris an example. I am saying, it's a sad message to the rest of the would-be drunk drivers that they put others at risk and come to expect no more then a minimal punishment.
xdamage
06-07-2007, 07:58 PM
Yeah....I agree here. So many peopl bitch abtou how she is a spoiled little rich girl.....
But how many of us woudl kill to be born into that life?
And the ones that say I wouldnt are the ones who have never had to go hungry, even for a day.
I'm all for that. Just when I'm on vacation or business and plan to drink, I take a cab. So could Paris. Or hell, she could afford a chauffeur. I think the issue should be about drunk driving and the risk it represents to others, not Paris or her status. Of all of us, she can afford to pay someone else to drive no?
Yekhefah
06-07-2007, 07:59 PM
The problem isn't that she's rich. Plenty of decent people are rich. The problem with Paris Hilton is the fact that she has zero respect for anyone on the planet (including herself). She is completely oblivious to the fact that she could very easily have MURDERED someone, and even if she knows that she simply doesn't care. She's so obsessed with herself and her own frivolous wants that she has zero human decency.
THAT's why she needs to suffer. Her problem is that she's never suffered before, and it might teach her some fucking empathy. But evidently that's never going to happen, so she'll keep pinballing around and doing whatever the hell she wants to do until she kills herself and maybe somebody else. And all so a bunch of nitwits can ooh and aah over what a "fun" celebrity she is. :yuck:
Kaylinn
06-07-2007, 08:01 PM
I agree completly.( xdamage)
I never said she didnt deserve jail time. She did. I just dont think she deserves everyone laughing at her misfortune. Yes she deserved it...but no need for anyone to gloat over another person's pain.
I agree with Yek to....
Her head is way to far up her own ass.
The problem isn't that she's rich. Plenty of decent people are rich. The problem with Paris Hilton is the fact that she has zero respect for anyone on the planet (including herself). She is completely oblivious to the fact that she could very easily have MURDERED someone, and even if she knows that she simply doesn't care. She's so obsessed with herself and her own frivolous wants that she has zero human decency.
THAT's why she needs to suffer. Her problem is that she's never suffered before, and it might teach her some fucking empathy. But evidently that's never going to happen, so she'll keep pinballing around and doing whatever the hell she wants to do until she kills herself and maybe somebody else. And all so a bunch of nitwits can ooh and aah over what a "fun" celebrity she is. :yuck:
Yek, you put this in better words than I ever could have! *applauds*
xdamage
06-07-2007, 08:08 PM
I agree completly.
I never said she didnt deserve jail time. She did. I just dont think she deserves everyone laughing at her misfortune. Yes she deserved it...but no need for anyone to gloat over another person's pain.
I agree Kaylinn. I do have empathy for her as a person. I don't wish her anything but the best, and I'm glad someone rolled a pair of 6s. That's all cool. Making it personal serves no purpose. Punishment serves two purposes (IMHO).
1.) It may (and this is a big maybe) decrease the chance that the punished will commit the same offense towards others again.
2.) It probably will deter those who are wavering, and considering committing the same offense towards others. A jail sentence of 3 days makes this purpose kind of a mockery. In a sense it says "do what u want, because the punishment will be a joke"
I don't really care too much if Paris sees why her behavior is dangerous to others. I am kind of concerned that a minimal 3 day sentence sends the wrong message to others who don't quite get the drinking and driving thing don't mix. There is someone in almost all of our lives we would rather not see dead or maimed due to a drunk driver. A stronger message would have benefitted a lot more then Paris, and in my mind, that is exactly the purpose of punishment, to teach other would-be law-breakers, far more so then to punish then the guilty.
Kaylinn
06-07-2007, 08:14 PM
^^ I read that this has actualyl set a scary precedence for ALL celebs who are due to go to jail for a crime. If paris can get out of it..anyone can. All Laywers need is someone to set the precedence.
it is a bad thing. I am disappointed she managed to get out, at the same time. If I were here...I'd try my hardest to get out to. I woudl haev learned my lesson in thoes 3 days, swore to enver drink again, and tried my best to get the hell out. She probably did not learn her lesson, but we dont know for sure.
I cant blame her for getting out, if given the option, noone woudl say...Ya know, I did bad, I deserve to be punished, Id rather stay in jail and serve my due time.
Nah. Anyone woudl try to get out. She just succeeded. I only hope she learned her lesson and can be more responsible in the future. Only time wil tell.
pink_staR
06-07-2007, 08:15 PM
I love Paris.. She's def one of my favourite celebrities, but I can't help but agree that her punishment was too light..
I just think that anyone who drinks and drives should go to jail. Simple as that. I know no one got hurt, but someone COULD have. It's really sad.. I remember all of the lectures, the parents of kids and families who had lost their lives due to a careless drunk driver.. It's not fair. And then she had the audacity to drive with a suspended licence.. How stupid can you get?
Like I said, I really like Paris, but she needs to pay her dues.