View Full Version : How to make $1000 (don't ask me)
anomar
06-26-2007, 03:39 AM
Holiday, how did you sell the block? It seems like it'd be even harder when it's just the sofa area & not the back room. Do you tell the customer that if he buys you out then you don't have to go onstage, etc? (I just had an idea for selling multiple blocks... near the end of one block, maybe describe a GREAT outfit you want to change into and then propose to start off a new block in the new outfit!)
A lot of times I'll get a customer that ends up getting 8+ songs in a row, but by that time of course he's already bought the individual dances and I don't want to back-negotiate with him.
Man, tomorrow I'm totally going in around 5 or so. See if lots of coffee and 8+ hours can get me on a real roll!
holiday
06-26-2007, 08:43 AM
I don't have a real method for selling blocks. The last time it happened I think I did one dance and then he said something along the lines of "I could spend all afternoon back here with you.." and I said something like, "I love dancing for you - you seem so cool...you wanna just work something out and spend some time back here and we'll make a price, instead of song by song".
I also know that on more than one occasion I've straight up asked the guy, "How much money do you have?" :P BUT don't try that unless you do it all super cute and know you have that kind of a rapport going on! He said $!60 or something and I said "Oh great! Let's just do xxx amount of time!" I know some super hustlers are thinking "no no no - you should have taken him to the ATM, for more" But I'll just feel the situation out and play it by ear.
That couch area is sort of funny. And to keep guys from thinking it is super lame, right when we plop down I nuzzle right up next to him and while waiting for the next song I start saying crap like, "Isn't it nice back here? We're all private and get this view of the whole club... blah blah blah"
I'll be in tomorrow too, see you then!
Lola Rose
06-26-2007, 06:52 PM
Yeah, that makes a difference for sure. Portland just doesn't have a large base of high-rolling customers or visiting businessmen. They do exist but just not in a very high percentage. The South Bay area average net worth probably surpasses that of Portland by an order of magnitude. Same with VeganAvery/LolaRose's similarly no-contact club (though actually, they have VIPs there I believe).
yep, the people have to be there, and have money to spend, b/c it'd be pretty danm hard to make a G when 95% of people are only buying 1-2 dances.
But I've made a G only doing dances at my no contact club quite a few times, but there was a large % of multiple dance buyers (4-10 dances), and a high volume of people.
^^ oh, and that's in a 6 hour shift with about a 80$ tip out, and 3 stage songs an hour, making 30-50 a stage set.
ellebelle
07-02-2007, 11:59 AM
When I moved back to Brisbane, I found it daunting that the clubs take 50% of our earnings making it virtually impossible to crack the 1000 mark.
The few times I have done it, has been when I have attacked a girl + guy couple (two people = double money same amount of time/effort). If you make a special occation out of it for them, they can really make a night out of it. I've also found its easy to get in two guys at a time if theyre from rural/mining towns with very few women. These guys seem used to sharing sexual experiences with their mates *Ahem*.
CupCake
07-07-2007, 01:57 AM
Blah wish I could do this, SR takes a big-old cut of the money and marks your dances. We also don't have VIP, just lapdances and the DJ is in charge of specials:'(
paintgoddess
07-10-2007, 08:16 AM
yep, the people have to be there, and have money to spend, b/c it'd be pretty danm hard to make a G when 95% of people are only buying 1-2 dances.
But I've made a G only doing dances at my no contact club quite a few times, but there was a large % of multiple dance buyers (4-10 dances), and a high volume of people.
^^ oh, and that's in a 6 hour shift with about a 80$ tip out, and 3 stage songs an hour, making 30-50 a stage set.
I've worked at this club for over a year. Nearly impossible to do this without VIP's. Just dances only? And to make over a G more than once or twice doing this? Do the math. It's not impossible. But pretty much improbable.
6 hr shift= 360 minutes
360 minutes @ 3.5 min songs = 103 songs a shift
If you're on stage once an hour for three songs, that's 18 songs a night.
103 - 18 = 85 songs left to sell lap dances.
5 feature dances a night (usually selling merchandise or 2-for-1's) @ 8 minutes (including intro song plus exit song) is 40 minutes a night, or 12 more regular dances you can't sell.
85 - 12 = 73 songs left a night.
You might have to pee, drink water, towel off, reapply lipstick, or eat a snack. You do one of these once an hour. That's 6 more songs.
73 - 6 = 67 songs left in a night to sell a $20 dance.
Taking into account that our club is NOT a wanna-dance kind of club, lets say that you spend two songs an hour for a sit-down hustle. Which even on busy nights you ARE going to do. That's 12 more songs you don't sell a dance.
67 - 12 = 55 songs left to sell a dance.
Let's say that you get rejected once an hour. It happens to all of us. Even the lucky ones. Let's be realistic. It might cost you a song. We get rejected for one song an hour (we should all be so lucky). That's 6 songs.
55-6 = 49 songs left to dance.
Okay. So let's calculate the earnings now.
$180 for six stage sets. You said 30-50 a set which is not realistic for the whole shift. We both know that it's not busy AT ALL until 11pm. So i calculated $30 a set, which I think is inflated anyway. But I'll give you that if you say so. The hottest girls in our club often make less than $10 a set, especially early on in the night.
$90 for features. That's three 2-4-20's and two 2-for-30's where we only keep 15 of the 30. And I'm assuming you were so lucky to sell all of them.
$980 for selling 49 lap dances. In six hours. Which we who work where we work know it's a joke. The club is dead between 8 and 10 and halfway dead between 10 and 11. And with 30+ dancers on saturdays?? Were you the only one selling dances between 8 and 11 to the 15 customers we had?
So 980 + 180 + 90 = $1,250
Then your tipout for this night = $90
$10 house
$5 housemom
$12 manager
$10 floormen
$50 DJ (it's customary to give 10% but let's screw the DJ anyway...)
$3 valet
After tipout, you are walking home with $1,160 if you can sell this much in our club. No one at our club does. Not even the uber-hustlers. The environment is just not conducive to big bucks this way. If you'd said it happened to you once, I'd have to give you that and truly believe that lady luck had paid you a visit and sprinkled magical glitter in your stilettos. Multiple times? Mmmm…. Although the numbers may work out on paper, you have to look at the customer flow from hour-to-hour, the club environment, and take into account the number of girls working the floor.
We're assuming that no one paid you in funny money where they take $10%
We're assuming that you had a fantastic night on stage, even in the first three hours. Even on this multiple-dance-selling busy night when they run three to four girls on each stage. We don't really have that many tippers feeding that many ones to three to four strippers on every set. Not nearly. Not ever. (But damn them!!!)
We're assuming you sold all of your feature dances.
We're assuming that the selling momentum is similar in the first three hours as it is in the last three. It SO is not at our club. That's why we call between 1-2 the hour of power. The first three hours is typically around 20 dancers to 10-25 customers.
In an hour, you're on stage for at least 11 minutes, plus you need at least one song in the dressing room an hour. Plus those damn feature dances take up another 8 minutes an hour. So... that's 22 minutes you can't sell a table dance. You have 38 minutes and 11 songs left per hour, darlin'. For a $1000 table-dance-only night you must consistently sell 8 out of 11 songs EVERY hour. No one at our club does that. Not even on Saturdays, which is our busiest night. We don't have a private dance area, so it's not like you take him back there to do multiple dances. It's primarily a 1-2 dance environment because you're dancing out on the main floor where he can see other dancers/stages/custies/etc. To sell more than a couple dances, you have to completely monopolize the custie's attention in spite of the distractions, in a no-contact situation. Do-able. But not consistently. Even for a phenomenal dancer. It's not you… it's the environment.
I don't want to be a hater. But I'm all about being realistic. Dancing and earning money is not a science, but you really can look at the numbers and see what is realistic, and not inflated or bogus earnings.
Susan Wayward
07-10-2007, 09:02 AM
^^You're not allowing for VIP sales or tips?
mollyzmoon
07-10-2007, 10:01 AM
This thread makes me wanna try hard for a 50 dance night again, but it's just too exhausting I think. I can never make myself stay longer than the minimum, and I actually get too worn out dancing more than 25-30 songs. Reinforcing the rules, keeping the non-lapping, but still kinda contacty schtick working out...Oh well. I could never sell a VIP where I used to work either because the mileage was too high for me. I used to have such drive and motivation, but it's gone now. It was pretty great opening the purse when I got home and seeing all that cash swell out! I miss that.
bellasera
07-10-2007, 10:37 AM
My club doesn't have a VIP or CR, so it's not an option.
paintgoddess
07-10-2007, 12:51 PM
^^You're not allowing for VIP sales or tips?
She said she made it lap-dancing only, and more than a few times. I beg to differ. Tips. That would make a small difference. Forgot to take into account. Thanks. I'd say it's pretty uncommon in our club to get more than the minimum $20. Probably happens 3-4 times a night. Or we'll get $40 for the $30 feature dance, which means you clear $25 on that one. I still think it's impossible to make a G or more in my club on just dances, esp when the dancer is claiming that most custies buy more than a couple dances, when that is extremely uncommon for the way it is set up in my club.
You really do need to stack VIP sessions at my club, which are minimum 1hr, and get hefty tips on top of that. We clear 180 an hour before tips if they pay cash, and 162 an hour if they pay with a credit card. I'd say if I could get a guy in a room for the first three hours when it's pretty dead for lap dances, and do laps the last three, I could do it.
A lot of it is luck. My top night there, still under a grand, I worked an extremely drunk trust fund kid with a friend of mine, and the stupid idiot brought an envelope full of $50 bills. So... we got $50 each per dance and left him with enough for a cab ride home, then found a group that was paying $100 for each dance, and the last 15 minutes of the night, I found a guy with $120 funny money bucks that needed to get rid of them. But I walked with $785 then. But that was THREE lucky hits in one night. Yep. Luck. Being in the right place at the right time with the right people.
Taylorlila
07-24-2007, 07:36 AM
I DID IT!!!! Saturday night I hit my 1st grand!!!! With no CR! I was just a lil hustlin lap dancin machine all night long. Thats how I did it...I just didnt stop...and I got dances and dances all night long! I was so excited when I counted my money when I got home.
miss marina
07-24-2007, 08:29 AM
^ GOOD JOB! posts like this make me wanna get into work asap lol
vidadiva
07-24-2007, 10:05 AM
I made $1000+ again a week ago. I did 3 CRs and one lapdance with heavy tippers. 2 half hours and 1 hour CR rooms.
holiday
07-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Taylorlila, did you work a longer shift? I can't bring myself to stay past 6-7 hours. I get worn out.
I'm frustrated right now. I made almost $800 the other night but then went home. And now it's slowed down a little for me. I keep making mistakes it seems, hustling wise. :( I need a change. I need a club with more customers and less girls. Especially less dirty girls.
But, I'm in a rotten mood - congrats Taylorlila and vidadiva though. I'm sure you earned every penny!
Taylorlila
07-24-2007, 01:35 PM
^^
yeah it was a 10 hour shift. I usually work 8-11 hour shifts. We also stop serving alcohol at 1, so from 1-3 you usually do dance after dance after dance.
scoobydoo7513
07-25-2007, 08:59 PM
I notice that even though I make great money when I do dances, regular or VIP, I make my best money, my $1000+ nights when I do very few or no dances at all. When I go to work I go with a goal and when I am there guys can tell from how I carry myself that while I am very friendly and approachable, I am there to make money. I also have a lot of post-its in my locker and around my house, one that says "Money comes to me easily and frequently. I am so happy and grateful that I attract quality customers. I consistently produce at least $2500 each and every week." What is amazing is that once I put this up in my locker, my income skyrocketed and somehow even when I don't go into work, somehow the money still shows up in some form or another. Now other girls are putting similar messages in their locker and they are getting the same results. It is all the law of attraction. If you only see yourself making $1000 from doing dances then that is how you will make it. If you just know you are going to make $1000 and don't worry about how, even if you don't hit $1000 you will make more money and it will come much easier.
Taylorlila
07-26-2007, 07:02 AM
I notice that even though I make great money when I do dances, regular or VIP, I make my best money, my $1000+ nights when I do very few or no dances at all. When I go to work I go with a goal and when I am there guys can tell from how I carry myself that while I am very friendly and approachable, I am there to make money. I also have a lot of post-its in my locker and around my house, one that says "Money comes to me easily and frequently. I am so happy and grateful that I attract quality customers. I consistently produce at least $2500 each and every week." What is amazing is that once I put this up in my locker, my income skyrocketed and somehow even when I don't go into work, somehow the money still shows up in some form or another. Now other girls are putting similar messages in their locker and they are getting the same results. It is all the law of attraction. If you only see yourself making $1000 from doing dances then that is how you will make it. If you just know you are going to make $1000 and don't worry about how, even if you don't hit $1000 you will make more money and it will come much easier.
I'm all for that stuff, thinking positive and positive messages, but how, may I ask is this money coming to you at work without doing any dances or VIP?Are guys just paying you well for your time? I know youre saying its all the law of attraction, but the money has to come to you somehow at work, so I'm very curious.
miabella
07-26-2007, 09:11 AM
no, even better, she said the money comes to her when she ISN'T at work.
mollyzmoon
07-26-2007, 09:22 AM
Maybe all those affirmations hypnotised her into robbing banks in her sleep?
Taylorlila
07-26-2007, 09:25 AM
I still wanna know how to make a grand at work without dancing!!!
vidadiva
07-26-2007, 09:48 AM
$40 short of a grand night...oh so close. Maybe I can do it tonight. Gotta stay positive.
Taylorlila
07-26-2007, 10:09 AM
^^
hell yeah you can do it! Last saturday when i hit my mark....i didnt even have a clue til i counted my money! I felt like I worked harder the weekend before when I made 800$!! But when I hit 800$ I just said to myself...a grand is only 200$ away....and in your case its only 40$ away!
vidadiva
07-26-2007, 10:24 AM
I was just so tired that I skipped the last stage set of the night to catch my bearings in the dressing room. After counting my money at home and seeing I was just $40 away, I wanted to kick myself for not doing that last stage set. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Thursdays are usually my best night though so who knows.
scoobydoo7513
07-26-2007, 02:37 PM
Guys will just pay me well to sit and talk with them. Here is an example:
I was on stage during a weekday day shift. I was doing my stage show and a guy came up and tipped me $20 on stage and asked me to come over to him when I was done. When I got done with the stage there was another girl on his lap so I just kept walking. After a few minutes of not getting dances the other girl got up and left and I went over to thank him for my tip and he asked me to sit down, gave me $200 right off the bat and offered me a drink. Every 30 minutes or so he would hand me another couple of dollars and I offered dances and he just said that he prefers to sit and have the company rather than get dances. He stayed for about 3 hours.
I get guys like that all the time and I really do believe that it has to do with expecting it and knowing it will come. The thing is, if I am off doing dances with guys, yes I am still making money, but I have found, and this is my personal experience, that the guys that spend the most money on me are the guys that are more interested in paying me to sit and talk than the guys that get dances.
And yes, I notice that money shows up even when I am not at work and I don't mean from customers, even though sometimes it works out that way too. I will randomly get a check in the mail for something I forgot about. Just the other day the insurance company sent me a check for $800 because they changed some of their guidelines on my policy.
It really is law of attraction. It is not just thinking positive, it is knowing and expecting. It took a while before I figured out the difference. My first year or so dancing I would hope for and wish for x amount and rarely get it. It was when I knew that I would make it that I did. And no, it is not 100% of the time, but it is pretty damn close.
LilMissSophie
07-26-2007, 07:48 PM
It's nearly impossible to make a grand where I work. Once I made $1060, it was just luck though, some guy bought me and my friend for the night. The most I've ever made was 600-700, on a double shift.
Farrah_Holiday
07-26-2007, 09:44 PM
I notice that even though I make great money when I do dances, regular or VIP, I make my best money, my $1000+ nights when I do very few or no dances at all. When I go to work I go with a goal and when I am there guys can tell from how I carry myself that while I am very friendly and approachable, I am there to make money. I also have a lot of post-its in my locker and around my house, one that says "Money comes to me easily and frequently. I am so happy and grateful that I attract quality customers. I consistently produce at least $2500 each and every week." What is amazing is that once I put this up in my locker, my income skyrocketed and somehow even when I don't go into work, somehow the money still shows up in some form or another. Now other girls are putting similar messages in their locker and they are getting the same results. It is all the law of attraction. If you only see yourself making $1000 from doing dances then that is how you will make it. If you just know you are going to make $1000 and don't worry about how, even if you don't hit $1000 you will make more money and it will come much easier.
Thank you for posting this !!;D
I used have post-its in my closet, bathroom mirror & sunvisor.
I never thought to put one in my locker, don't ask why.
But, like you said the $$ would just come to me out of nowhere.
God, I miss that.. I haven't had a $1000 night in the past 2 years.
Not because I can't do it.. I just haven't been motivated.>:(
Now, I'm pissed completely at myself for not taking advantage of whats available to me!
Time to break to out the post-its and up the confidence level again.;)
scoobydoo7513
07-27-2007, 05:32 AM
People crack up at me. My husband and I have post-its all over everything, mirrors, the cars, doors, medicine cabinet, every where you can think of. Our friends laugh but they see the life we have and start to post-it and before you know it they have their friends and family doing it. It is catching!! ;D
Lysondra
07-28-2007, 12:12 AM
Dude, the secret of life is actually Post-Its.
holiday
08-25-2007, 09:14 AM
Bleh. A grand is just a number. I came so close again last night, but I just can't bring myself to stay longer than 6 or 7 hours right now. I was giving a guy a lap dance (my billionth one) and he actually asked me, "why is your leg shaking?" I was just physically tired. I mean I could make $950 and if I was tired, I'd just pack up and go. :-\ But there isn't anything wrong with that.
I also know the answer is getting tips, tipped on top of dance prices and tipped for time, like some of you have said, that's just harder for me to hustle, but definitely what I should work on I guess.
I also wonder if I had a few drinks right when I started to feel like going home, if that would help. I work sober, so I'm thinking having a buzz may get me threw the last few hundred dollars.
Anyway, I guess I just don't really care about hitting that number all that much.
sun child
08-25-2007, 12:17 PM
^ Honestly I think it just has to do with luck, finding that wealthy, drunk or infatuated customer who just spends and spends and spends. The only times I've made 1K in Portland I had some guy who was infatuated with me and kept buying dances, sometimes until the very last song is played. Also, the semi-rare times that I've gotten close or almost there, said guy would also tip well on stage, at least 20 dollars per stage set. Seven hours at a strip club is a long time, so don't feel bad. Without VIP, champagne rooms, etc., I'd say even getting close to 1K on a seven-hour shift is an amazing feat!
holiday
09-12-2007, 08:49 PM
Finally!;D ;D Yay! Oh it feel so good!
AND on a day shift. That's right bitches. 1 o'clock to 7 o'clock. One customer gave me $400 another gave me $200 and the rest was just pure hustle hustle hustle.
Ooooh I'm a happy stripper!
Samba
09-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Congrats! You've really been working hard and you deserve it!
Picaresque
09-12-2007, 10:42 PM
I get guys like that all the time and I really do believe that it has to do with expecting it and knowing it will come. The thing is, if I am off doing dances with guys, yes I am still making money, but I have found, and this is my personal experience, that the guys that spend the most money on me are the guys that are more interested in paying me to sit and talk than the guys that get dances.
And yes, I notice that money shows up even when I am not at work and I don't mean from customers, even though sometimes it works out that way too. I will randomly get a check in the mail for something I forgot about. Just the other day the insurance company sent me a check for $800 because they changed some of their guidelines on my policy.
It really is law of attraction. It is not just thinking positive, it is knowing and expecting. It took a while before I figured out the difference. My first year or so dancing I would hope for and wish for x amount and rarely get it. It was when I knew that I would make it that I did. And no, it is not 100% of the time, but it is pretty damn close.
:yes: yes, yes and yes. There is such a difference between being in the wanting/wishing/hoping mindset, and knowing that you will get what you need, ask for and believe that you will recieve.
holiday
09-13-2007, 09:13 AM
ask for and believe that you will recieve I've really been focusing lately on ASKING for the amount of money I want. This last week has just been amazing. Even yesterday when I knew I wanted to leave with a grand, I just asked my customer to take care of my stage fee and tip outs and he was happy too. It is kind of an eye opener that you really can just ask for stuff. And even if they say no, it's like, so what? I've also really speeded up my hustle. I almost never drink anymore, unless it's in the private dance area, and I don't even think I spent more than a couple minutes selling anyone yesterday. BUT I will say the work you put in everyday always has a way of paying off later. I'm so into this. Not only establishing regulars, but just conducting yourself in the best way that you can each shift you work. I have had people who say they've come in before, but I've been busy, so they came back, or they were in a long time ago and remember me. And then there are all the coworkers who can help you, if only by referring to you in a positive manner. I really think that help. It pays off when you need it to later.
sun child
09-13-2007, 09:57 PM
Yes! Just saw this! Go holiday! W00t!
Susan Wayward
09-14-2007, 12:10 AM
Oh hooray! That's awesome, holiday!
holiday
09-14-2007, 09:12 AM
Thank you girls! I'm going to try to do it again today!
HustlaBustla
09-14-2007, 02:16 PM
Shit, that makes me appreciate working in California, with the VIPs and champagne rooms, etc. etc. I don't know how I would manage having to do lap dances all night. When I work in Vegas, I do well doing craploads of lapdances, but it's friggin exhausting! Have I become a lazy stripper? Lap dances are soooo hard on the knees when you're doing airdances, and have to avoid contact.
Congrats, also, Holiday!!!! Let us know if u hit it again! Woot woot
kitana
09-15-2007, 09:46 AM
Truly, i dont see it happening without a VIP. rarely, as emily said, rarely it'll be possible with just laps if you keep the whole 20. but i'd market myself for a chunk of time. i'd offer fifteen minutes for 100 bucks or 30 minutes for 150. that way it's clearly a deal to take the 30, but if they take the fifteen, you can keep him there, "im not done with you yet, that was clearly not enough time for us." then you have 200 for your half hour. jumping from songs to a half hour can be tough for some people.
It CAN be done w/o a VIP/Champagne room.
Hell my best night ever was $2,198 on a Monday in my home club (which would be considered podunk to most of you girls), in Indiana!
We only have lapdances and stage.
StrayStripper
09-17-2007, 11:11 AM
Bleh. A grand is just a number.
Yes, it is. If you don't have hours, it is nearly impossible to attain. In dance-by-dance clubs, you need a very good tip to bring you over the mark. I did it twice in two years. Once was a $1500 tip. The other was a $700 tip. Both were unexpected. Otherwise when I had a really good and really busy night, I wouldn't top $650, and again, I'd have to be really damn busy to get that.
Picaresque
09-17-2007, 05:51 PM
In dance-by-dance clubs, you need a very good tip to bring you over the mark.
...or become really good at consistently selling multiples and strings of dances. ;)
NikkiNikki
10-15-2007, 09:48 AM
I don't think the contact level has that much effect on earning potential. I used to work strictly no contact and still had many $1000 nights.
So does Tart.
A lapdance ends at a certain point but a good conversation can go all night. I think Paris said something once, tease his brain and his body will follow. or something like it.
This rings true!
Um - I WISH this rang true. Half the time I always get the guys that want to "save" me from the strip club or talk with me about school (I have a BA in Communications) or otherwise monopolize my time! When I try and parlay this into a CR they balk. "But I thought you liked me!" Yeah, and I thought you were looking for your wife - at the strip club. jackasses. :-\
NikkiNikki
10-15-2007, 09:50 AM
...or become really good at consistently selling multiples and strings of dances. ;)
This is what I'm used to doing - dance by dance. So much better, and keeps you fit too. I can carry on a conversation, but frankly I don't want to half the time - exhausting to pretend, I think. Easier dancing 1-5 dances per guy and move on. I don't understand you girls who have regulars - don't they start asking to see you outside the club after a while? Just curious. It must take tremendous patience - of which I have precious little...