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BlueJeanBaby
06-13-2007, 09:52 PM
Several pimps have explained it to me that a girl is going to get a pimp because she cannot make it on her own; think about how many girls make several hundred dollars a week but don't own a motor vehicle or can't keep their cell phone on. What is the point of hustling if you have nothing to show for it? A pimp, who is something like a manager, will give you almost everything in return for 100% of your money. Don't believe the hype that all girls who get involved with pimps are runaways or strung out on dope, because there are some very intelligent women who turn to pimps to help managing their lives.

No.

Turning over your hard earned money to a man because "baby he'll take care of you" is not okay. A pimp is a scumbag...these are men who make their livings off of putting women to work and shady business like drug dealing. They view women as objects (yes..they do. anyone who would "pimp" doesn't have respect for a woman), and they have a ridiculous sense of entitlement to a womans' money and body.

One of the reasons pimps are able to get girls to go to work for them is because they convince them (much like these pimps have convinced you) that they will have a hard time doing it with out them. "These women NEED us". Bull. Shit. They also try to sugar coat it by using terms like "manager" and things. I'm sure there are a rare few pimps who treat their women "really well"...but just being a pimp IMO is not treating a woman well.

A person's money is THEIR money...and should not be turned over to anyone else in that sort of arrangement. A womans ability to be financially independent is her freedom, period.

velvet
06-13-2007, 09:53 PM
I think from the other thread on this, it was discovered that it was pretty much a Florida thing.


umm not hardley. i've worked in lots of cities in other states over the years, small towns too for that matter. they are everywhere
i'm sure you work with some girls that have pimps they just choose not to brag/talk about it.

RoseLeigh
06-13-2007, 10:41 PM
No.

Turning over your hard earned money to a man because "baby he'll take care of you" is not okay. A pimp is a scumbag...these are men who make their livings off of putting women to work and shady business like drug dealing...etc.

*applause* There is a big difference between being a bill-handler and putting a girl on the street because she didn't make a quota. My old roommate was an escort, and we would have been sans heat or cable or whatever if I didn't occasionally wait up and get the money from her when she came in at night, but I certainly wasn't sending her back out if there wasn't enough. And I helped her learn how to budget, she was a little immature and had just never learned. Sometimes you need a big sister, or mom-type person to get a hang of things, you don't need someone with a hand out telling you that you need them.

They are not helping poor women who can get it all sorted out. It's not a case of helping the lost puppy. Pimps keep these girls helpless and scared. Totally explotation.

Rose Leigh

BalletBaby
06-14-2007, 11:34 AM
We had some 'recruiters' come to my work last night. Both a manager and another girl pointed them out to me, saying they were probably from a spa. Big black guy and a couple of oriental girls. The funny thing was after tipping a girl onstage they would get all enthusiastic and start clapping. I avoided that table.

Candice
06-14-2007, 12:48 PM
Lately it has come to my attention that I work with a lot of girls with pimps.

..and last weekend some pimp was murdered and another pimp "inherited" his girls. I mean, it is pretty much slavery. It makes me so sad.

Maybe I am weird cause this is bothering me lately.

I just posted on "Club Chat" Pompano Beach.....regarding this.

You're not weird sunnie, I feel the same way. We probably work in the same club. I'm so done with working in Pompano. Not only are the men completely cheap and constantly looking for a bargain like they are in some sort of Flea Market but the Pimp/Violence Factor has scared me away for good.

Candice
06-14-2007, 12:54 PM
I have never been in a fight, and I don't want one of these girls deciding I "stole" her customer or some other infraction and picking a fight with me. I can't say I feel that safe anymore (in terms of the other girls) at the club.

I guess I'll take it up with management.

Good luck with that. Several girls at one of the clubs that i was working at in Pompano spoke to management and nothing has or will be done. Time to move on for me.

sessik86
10-02-2008, 02:11 PM
I know this is an old thread but I had a time in STL wheen I thought this girl customer was this guy's girlfriend b/c she was making out w/ him. Later in the night I saw her talking with other guys. Then she came up to my customers and started taking to them. I went and told the manager who kicked her out. I thought she was drunk. One of the bouncers told me the girl comes in with her pimp trying to hustle guys. It's one thing when the girl works there but girls coming in from outside the club trying to hustle our customers. Come on now.

venusace138
10-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Wow, old thread indeed!

So theres tonssss of pimps in Dallas, and girls at the clubs with pimps. Dudes circle our parking lot and hang out in our club, trying to recruit girls.

she sells sanctuary
10-03-2008, 11:42 PM
yeah old thread but

at my club, it's pretty common to see couples. girls can only come in with a guy. usually these girls are there as customers. sometimes it feels like they're there for business. thing is, it's so slow. anytime i see a couple come in and leave within a couple minutes, i can't help but wonder. like, you just spent 20$ just to be here, and there's plenty of hot dancers working if that's what you want...but you leave so quickly.

bustybabe312
10-04-2008, 01:17 AM
Well, pimping is something that just won't end. Why? Because what we all may feel is stupid and dumb, there's plenty of women who don't. A couple of older girls I met while on the road told me of a situation of a woman who's man is always in the midst. They said she even brags about how they're engaged but they don't believe her.

What tickles me, is when a girl will swear up and down that her boyfriend is her "fiance" or something. Well, how many more decades will pass before the damn hitching already??? lmao.

Is it just me or do any of you find it a bit odd that a "fiance" will: travel absolutely everywhere with the girl? I mean, like, a grown ass man without a job?? Unless his job is to count his "fiance's" monies, and they live off her income solely. I mean like, anytime a man keeps a detailed notebook of how many dances she does, wants to know how much each of her regular's has spent, and keep her working 5 or more weeks in a row.

I heard about an older lady who's down with that program that works in the Midwest. Perhaps her "fiance" is her traveling accountant?

Hell, I've even heard of girls being beat with hangers and burnt with cigarettes when they don't reach the pimp's quota. But yea, gorilla pimps will hunt and track you down if you try and leave him. He couldn't handle you making all that money and he's not getting his greasy hands on it anymore.

BTW: Bottom bitch is the term used for the girl who's been with the pimp the longest and also the girl that brings in the most money. Alot of pimps eventually marry their bottom girls. The bottom girl is the one who'd never run off and the one who keeps eyes on the other girls in the stable.

I was flabberghasted when I heard about that situation. Me personally, I just can't fathom the thought of anyone else controlling my money. I mean, hell, I spaz out when the bank does something janky, so I already know the lifestyle of being pimped isn't for me.

PleasureVictim
10-04-2008, 01:43 AM
I know girls whose boyfriend/girlfriend is in the club night after night- looking like they stepped out of a magazine. Wearing the hottest gear in the whole club- must be nice! LOL

I had 2 dancers hit on me but their alterior motive was to get another 'Angel' for Charlie. Not me- my pimp lives in the fucking gas pump and takes lots of money from me. I can't handle another.::)

My brother called me the other day looking for girls to 'manage', >:( wanted to know if I knew any. I didn't even get mad because I know he isn't evil enough to be a real pimp/daddy/manager whatever. He wouldn't lay a hand on any woman.

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 03:55 AM
I know girls who's boyfriend/girlfriend is in the club night after night- looking like they stepped out of a magazine. Wearing the hottest gear in the whole club- must be nice! LOL


haha...so true :) !

I know some pimps and they are good, they never hit woman and he gave me money when i needed it without demanding anything in return. I tried to get with him but he wouldn't do it becasue he said he couldn't trust me...:( ...but we are still great friends

All that stuff about pimps hitting woman and being mean is just plain lies..its no more true than stereotypes of all strippers being dirty crackheads that were abused by their fathers.

Don't be so fast to point the fingers at others as being bad unless your hands are clean...I would trust a pimp before alot of the catty dancer girls out here that will lie stab you in the back in a heartbeat.

pimps are lovers and very kind if you're lucky enough to get the right one...its just like picking the right club or the right car...girls who make the best choices in life get the best results

pinkpvc
10-04-2008, 05:40 AM
:o Although most dancers do not meet the stripper stereotype, there are some who most certainly do. Therefore just because you personally have experience with one nice pimp, doesn't make all pimps across the world angels who treat women nicely.
I just cannot fathom ever wanting to search for the right pimp for me as it were. I can take care of my own finances.

Kalligirl
10-04-2008, 08:21 AM
WOW, so a guy doesn't hit you that makes him okay? Let me tell you something......

THESE MEN ARE MASTER MANIPULATORS. I've dealt with one emotionally (NOT financially) for four years.

I would rather have my ass beat day in and day out then deal with what I have endured based on naivity and greenness. They are narcissistic, clever, OUT FOR THEMSELVES pieces of shit and you will get NO WHERE if you plan on growing as individual or evolving to better yourself or humanity.

If you want to live in a materialistic bullshit world of competition, pettiness, greed and full of scumbag men and women you can't trust, then, I got like 5 pimps #'s I can give you.

-- i dont mean to sound rude, its just that... you are so much better than a pimp. him saying he cant trust you was probably just a way to get in your head and make you feel like an untrustworthy person. WOMEN who make the best choices do go places in life. And the best choice is to remain indepedent and do not let some man RUN you cause thats will what happen!!

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 08:50 AM
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If you want to live in a materialistic bullshit world of competition, pettiness, greed and full of scumbag men and women you can't trust, then, I got like 5 "strippers"#'s I can give you.



that's funny, ...just take out the word "pimp" and substitute it with "strippers" and thats the same thing people say about us...

All pimps aren't bad and all strippers aren't good...it is these type of generalizations that hold us back from growing and being all that we can be..thats like saying that a car is a car and there is no differance between an old beat up Toyota and a new Mercedes Benz...we all no this isn't true

i'm sorry you had bad experiences, maybe you picked the wrong pimp, or maybe you just picked the wrong people in general to socialize with,,alot of girls do that, i see it everyday

I'm just sharing my personal experiences...I can't give you the info of good pimps because thats strictly forbidden, but i really do appreciate your concern

just know that i am very healthy and happy and i hope that you are the same :)

-CR

misspthesweetesttaboo
10-04-2008, 09:02 AM
lol to each his own

Kalligirl
10-04-2008, 09:06 AM
you are wrong my dear. PIMPS AND DANCERS ARE NOT THE SAME.

A man steps into a strip club knowing what is going to happen. Dancers are there to entertain him.

A woman steps into a pimp's life and has no clue how it will consume her, its a lifestyle, you live it 24/7.

A dancer doesn't suck a man dry, making him emotionally crippled to rely on her and make him depedent on her like a pimp.

And I am starting to think that you are p i undercover cause you just contradicted yourself and said that you had never been with a pimp and now your acting as if you got game from one.

All pimps are poisionus. Even Iceberg slim talks shit about the lifetsyle.

CKXXX
10-04-2008, 09:08 AM
Yes honey..all pimps are bad. Even if they dont hit you...and I've seen PLENTY that do...they are still profiting off you and controlling and manipulating you....be a strong independent adult and you have no need for a "daddy" figure to control you. You arent going to find any pimp supporters on this site!

Kalligirl
10-04-2008, 09:14 AM
Yes honey..all pimps are bad. Even if they dont hit you...and I've seen PLENTY that do...they are still profiting off you and controlling and manipulating you....be a strong independent adult and you have no need for a "daddy" figure to control you. You arent going to find any pimp supporters on this site!

:thanx:

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 09:21 AM
Even Iceberg slim talks shit about the lifetsyle


uhhh Kalligirl... iceberg slim is "fiction" that means "un-true"...maybe you girls watch to much TV because all your descriptions of pimps seem like a bad episode of "Law & Order" ;D

Kalligirl
10-04-2008, 09:26 AM
thats funny, since ice-t is on law and order.

but whats not funny is my real life experience with one and the fact you are mocking it.

i'm putting you on ignore so you wont see me responding to your spew of shit.

oh and p.s., iceberg slim is a fictional character based on the authors life.

xsomnambulist
10-04-2008, 09:29 AM
Actually, Iceberg Slim was -not- fiction. He was, indeed, a pimp.

http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/21/ice.html

tlove0113
10-04-2008, 09:39 AM
I rarely participate in threads like this, but I have to say something.

1. Iceberg Slim was written by Robert Beck, who was indeed a pimp in real life.

2. Condoning having a pimp is some straight up bullshit!

Telling you that you are untrustworthy is his way of trying to make you prove to him that you are, by giving him your money and earning his trust.

tlove0113
10-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Ice-T was also a pimp too. You can look all of this up. Just Google it.

tlove0113
10-04-2008, 09:49 AM
Why so much hostility? If you want to have a pimp thats fine, but why come on a site where everyone clearly disagrees with you and try to argue and convince us that there is nothing wrong with it. I'm sure there are some pro-pimping sites out there for you.

saphire123456
10-04-2008, 09:49 AM
haha...so true :) !

I know some pimps and they are good, they never hit woman and he gave me money when i needed it without demanding anything in return. I tried to get with him but he wouldn't do it becasue he said he couldn't trust me...:( ...but we are still great friends

All that stuff about pimps hitting woman and being mean is just plain lies..its no more true than stereotypes of all strippers being dirty crackheads that were abused by their fathers.

Don't be so fast to point the fingers at others as being bad unless your hands are clean...I would trust a pimp before alot of the catty dancer girls out here that will lie stab you in the back in a heartbeat.

pimps are lovers and very kind if you're lucky enough to get the right one...its just like picking the right club or the right car...girls who make the best choices in life get the best results

wow, we should all be so lucky to get the right kind of pimp. :O
Really, How dumb do you have to be to give all your money to a pimp?

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 09:52 AM
Ice-T was also a pimp too. You can look all of this up. Just Google it.

I don't give carap about google...you can't find me one woman that ICE T ever pimped because they don't exist....he never had any girls out on the track...get real ::)

do some real reasearch...ICE T was origunally a breakdancer/poplocker that created his gangste rap image to sell albums (which all suck)

any woman ICE-T ever got with of signifigance he got from being an entertainer and NOT from being anything even closely resembling a real pimp ...FAIL !

saphire123456
10-04-2008, 09:53 AM
Why so much hostility? If you want to have a pimp thats fine, but why come on a site where everyone clearly disagrees with you and try to argue and convince us that there is nothing wrong with it. I'm sure there are some pro-pimping sites out there for you.

ditto

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 09:57 AM
Why so much hostility? If you want to have a pimp thats fine, but why come on a site where everyone clearly disagrees with you and try to argue and convince us that there is nothing wrong with it. I'm sure there are some pro-pimping sites out there for you.

I'm not hostile, i just don't like to hear people say dumb stuff...I've been on this site along time even before i officially joined...so if you hate pimps so much and want to tell dumb misinformed lies about them then maybe you should go back into the quiet ignorant lurker status from whence you came :)

peace sister !

-CR

saphire123456
10-04-2008, 10:00 AM
Sweetie, I don't know why you keep pushing the pro-pimp bullshit, this really isn't that kind of site, and you aren't going to get any supporters for women giving their money to a pimp

tlove0113
10-04-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm done. Why waste energy trying to reason with crazy people.

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 10:10 AM
I'm done. Why waste energy trying to reason with crazy people.

bye sweetie :) !...

Turn off the TV ladies...its rotting your brains ;)

misspthesweetesttaboo
10-04-2008, 10:12 AM
...I can't give you the info of good pimps because thats strictly forbidden
-CR

;)

u a hoe dawg- it is what is

misspthesweetesttaboo
10-04-2008, 10:18 AM
woooow and everybody else is failin, but u handin over your ends.....


CATASTROPHIC FAIL!

:rotfl:

BB1984
10-04-2008, 10:23 AM
woooow and everybody else is failin, but u handin over your ends.....


CATASTROPHIC FAIL!

:rotfl:

LOL, :laughing: very, very true!

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 10:32 AM
;)

u a hoe dawg- it is what is

wow strippers who think the're better than escorts...classic FAIL;D !

BB1984
10-04-2008, 10:39 AM
wow strippers who think the're better than escorts...classic FAIL;D !

Personally I don't think I'm better than an escort, actually I think a lot of escorts are very intelligent, and determined. Just not the ones who give their money away to a pimp IMO.

misspthesweetesttaboo
10-04-2008, 10:46 AM
CR...

;D

I'm callin u a catastrophic failin' ass hoe through YOUR implied definition- as in passin it over, after WORKING, to another person...... a smart escort, stripper, ho whatever is gonna keep what she makes for showin'/usin'/sellin' HER SNATCH B/T HER LEGS

It's your life though, failure:)

Lysondra
10-04-2008, 11:15 AM
It's okay. We know your pimp really loves you.

PleasureVictim
10-04-2008, 11:17 AM
I think many of these guys start going after girls while they are still in their teens. How the fuck can anyone defend a grown man taking advantage of a young girl who is probably in a shitty situation to use them for their own evil purpose. Get the fuck out of here. I bet he is looking out for her best interest huh?

Kalligirl
10-04-2008, 11:19 AM
I think many of these guys start going after girls while they are still in their teens. How the fuck can anyone defend a grown man taking advantage of a young girl who is probably in a shitty situation to use them for their own evil purpose. Get the fuck out of here. I bet he is looking out for her best interest huh?

Girl, they do. There was one in my club who put a 17 year old in there. He met the girl who is still with him now (22 maybe?), when she was 16. Parents signed her over to him and everything.

He's 40 something.

Bubble
10-04-2008, 11:20 AM
This is my favourite thread of the day.

I'm certainly not dumb enough to give MY money, that *I* worked for, to anyone else.

Kalligirl
10-04-2008, 11:29 AM
^^ it honestly isn't about being dumb. its about a predator finding the weakest elements in you and capitlaizing on them until you become depedent on him.. meanwhile he will charm the shit out of you, while cleverly manipulating all your downfalls and convincing you that whatever problems you have can be fixed while being with them.

The girls with them are usually not lacking in intelligence but lacking in indepdence, but they have a personality disorder where they are considered dependent and literally need someone to make choices for them and take care of them.

No man would ever get a girls money without SOME FORM of cunning and manipulation. Lots of people look at streetwalkers and think thats a stereotypical pimp ho lifestyle. But its not like that.... if you are in a major city, especially in the south (FL,SC,GA) the girls are rampant in that circuit of clubs with dudes. And they travel to NYC, and LV too. They are everywhere, under your nose... its a disturbing subculture.

krystalpink
10-04-2008, 11:41 AM
Umm hello?? sex slavery.. plain and simple.

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 11:56 AM
CR...

;D

I'm callin u a catastrophic failin' ass hoe through YOUR implied definition- as in passin it over, after WORKING, to another person...... a smart escort, stripper, ho whatever is gonna keep what she makes for showin'/usin'/sellin' HER SNATCH B/T HER LEGS

It's your life though, failure:)

okay now lets try not to get all ghetto with the name calling...if you strip escort or whatever thenn you are going to give money to someone...thats just how it is

the most independent might be freelance escorts who place an ad and then do incall or outcall...then you only pay for your advvertising,,.but thats dangerous for many reasons,,,you could get a bad cleint or end up in jail with noone to get you out,etc.

the girls i know who have good pimps do way better than me because they work together,,,and the girls also go on to do other things because some don't want to be escorts/strippers forever...although some do..and i know this for a fact because they are friends of mine

like i said you ladies watch to much TV or you personally just made some bad choices ...all the gloom and doom talk is ridiculous and just shows that you don't know what you are talking about

-CR

PleasureVictim
10-04-2008, 12:00 PM
Kalligirl, you make a great point. I know this was in some other pimp thread, but I'll use it here again. The top earner at one place I've worked at had it going on. She was attractive, had the best dance outifts and came to work dressed like she was about to go to the hottest clubs in Vegas no matter what night of the week she worked. Girls would suck up to her because they knew if they got her to come onstage with them she would have the guys running up there to spend money.

One night she was in the DR, talking about one of the bottomfeeder pimps that post up in the club every so often. She was laughing at the fact he wasn't a real pimp because his girl sits around and doesn't make a lot of money. Then she started going on about how she had the best pimp and how he didn't take any shit, yadda yadda. I couldn't believe it- I guessed her money motivation came from her desire to have it, not because of some creep behind the scenes.

I don't like to pass judgement on anyone calling them stupid or whatever because I don't know the whole story or what kind of enviornment they escape from. Look at how many women are sexually assaulted and how low self-esteem can stem from that. You have parents not protecting or sticking up for their daughters after things like that happen. Disgusting mothers who don't do anything when they know or suspect their daughters getting abused.

This is only one example, but that can set the stage for a woman's self-respect being fucked with. So she gets involved with a guy who she thinks cares. She's 'independent' in her eyes, and she gets to play those "I'm better than you bitch" competiton games with the other women for the pimp's approval. Who lucks out in all this? The bastard running the whole show. It is infuriating.

BTW Cherry Rain, an escort having a pimp doesn't exempt her from getting assaulted or going to jail. Independent escorts can hire security who does his job then takes the agreed upon amount he worked for.

misspthesweetesttaboo
10-04-2008, 12:06 PM
the girls i know who have good pimps do way better than me because they work together



:no:
listen to yourself

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 12:12 PM
:no:
listen to yourself

sorry but its the truth deal with it :)

-CR

CherryRain
10-04-2008, 12:33 PM
BTW Cherry Rain, an escort having a pimp doesn't exempt her from getting assaulted or going to jail. Independent escorts can hire security who does his job then takes the agreed upon amount he worked for.

first off thats someone else to pay..and if you get assaulted, security isnt going to do anything unless he's right there at the time watchiing the whole thing...because if you get beat up and Security goes in afterwards and assaults the guy, then Security is going to JAIL...and thenwhat ?! I guess you are going to pay for his defense which will be expensive as heck, plus you might lose because you are an escort and once the Prosecutor finds out what you do he is going to jump all over you and try to put you in jail too because securtiy was your agent workiing on your behalf

and if you go to jail, security isn't going to do anything to get you out..you're just screwed

there are alot of angles to cover to be succesful in this business...thats why so many "smart" girls end up broke in the long-run :-\

Ava Lee
10-04-2008, 01:10 PM
This is so sad!
i live in the north so i dont come across pimps very often
but one came to my club once(now that i think of it he was from fl)
this guy was cute, charming, and a great talker
next thing i know hes talking about talking me all over the country, how i can make much more money if i stuck with him cause he knows where the money is at.
HAHA when i realized he was talking about pimping me out i uncontrollably laughed in his face! i nearly fell out of my seat i was laughing so hard.
when i finally got a hold of myself i could see the look of shock on his face, i dont think he was used to getting that kind of reaction, then i felt really sad for the girls who actually buy into this stuff! what an awful scum bag! pimps should be locked away so they cant pray on weaker women.
YES mentally WEAK women