View Full Version : If drinking is not okay on the job, is being high also as well not as good.
prettylilcarmellostrippa
06-22-2007, 12:48 PM
nah, i havent smoked yet today and its almost 1p (hooray for me)
I just say how I feel when i feel it. And if im "nonsensicle?" then fine i AM. What i said was not that 'dumb'. It could possibly be a reality in 2079 or somethin, could it not? couldn't it be a possiblity? thats all i was saying. no, do not do something or anything like drinking or smoking or snorting or shoving a needle in your vein to get away from the world, and keep doing it cause u think u can get it fixed in the end. i don't think i said that. i don't think i said "i'm cool, i don't have nothing to worry about, i'ma keep something my marijuana everyday, since science and technology is always expanding and creating something new, i can buy me a new lungs". thats not what i said. i had said this "ya, pills ruin your liver if u keep poppin them back to back. same with alcohol, ruins your liver. u can't get another of those. u can possibly in the future get a new lungs tho. hmmmm. there are also great edibles with maryJ, that never harms your lungs. Too bad wew don't know the longterm effects or maryJ really yet." that is what i said. does it say anything about me keeping on smoking cause fuck it, i'm strippin, i'll buy me another one! no its not, get it right HOE! haha! re-read what "I" wrote and it does not encourage anything like that. Drugs and alcohol are bad. I feel bad all the time smoking everyday the way i do, but i'm doing it for a reason for my own problems, feeding my addiction. that is something i have to deal with on my own. but i did not encourage that u should drink or smoke period or keep on doing it cause eventually u can proabbly buy some new organs. i was just asking in the original post "if drinking is not good, is smoking bad also?".
but every stripper here is amazingly just anti drug DRUG FREE up in here. I thought one of the stripper myths was strippers were druggy's and alkies, just ruining there lives. the world of stripping is just getting better and better with our intelligence and our own opinions.
whatever i just wrote probably don't make alot of sense to u people. sorry i'm from L.A., i guess i just talk different then how your reading it. but i can be a BITCH if u step to me, but i'm true Sweetheart, just no one wants to be friends with that really. i don't have no one anyway. oh well...
prettylilcarmellostrippa
06-22-2007, 12:50 PM
And if weed is so bad, then help your fellow stripper sisters out and search for some rehab's that treat people who have addictions to marijuana instead of putting everybody down, but then putting them on this cool pedastal that their poppin Xanax and Vicodin? why this double standard people?
TigersMilk
06-22-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm going to have a grammar reading attack here! My EYES!:eek:
Honey there are schools in LA so you can learn to properly write how to tell us to fuck off.
ExoticEngineer
06-22-2007, 12:55 PM
K, I think you may be getting way more defensive than is needed. Seriously.
No one said YOU were stupid or dumb, but you might want to be careful before you throw your own self into that catagory.
And plenty of the girls said they smoke, no one is saying you are bad for smoking. But you yourself said you have a problem with it, and that's been the point of most of this thread, girls who have a problem with "needing" to be high when working and it effects things.
But really, you need to chill out.
LuckiCharm
06-22-2007, 01:14 PM
Prettylilcarmello...what does being from L.A have to do with being able to understand what you type?
Nobody said all the members here are "Drug free", we were all just stating what works for us and what doesn't. We're not claiming to be all "drug free is the way to be" type shit...
No one called you dumb, they just said what you typed was dumb. Not everyone thinks like you do, opinions were just stated, that's all.
You're taking stuff real personal...SW is a great place to come to but getting all extra overly offended by a simple criticism and calling everyone all here "bitch this, hoe that...fuck all ya'll" isn't really gonna get you alot of respect...it's actually funny to me that you flipped out or something so simple.
nicole84
06-22-2007, 01:22 PM
Okay, this might sound bitchy, but...
I read your other post about the girls you work with, and well, if you react to everything there, they way you have to things on here, well, I'm not sure I'd want to work with you either, or go out of my way to make it pleasant for you.
You seem to take things waaaay too seriously, and get an attitude extremely fast. No ones claimed their way was the only way, and no one here is claiming to be an angel, so chill.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and no one has to agree with anyone if they don't want to. Being entitled to your own opinion however, includes being allowed to think/say that you think something someone said was dumb.
velvet
06-22-2007, 01:27 PM
Drugs make you age quicker. Girls who take E regularly (e.g., once a month) look haggard in a couple of years (sometimes in less time than that).
well that sure isnt true for me. i have been doing E for over ten years. i still look the exact same.
that said i dont do E at work. i do drink and in the past i have done coke at work.
i couldnt smoke weed before work, i would be to lazy.
Bridgette
06-22-2007, 01:49 PM
well that sure isnt true for me. i have been doing E for over ten years. i still look the exact same.Now don't go encouraging all these young girls - you know how younguns will take one example to think they can get away with it the same way...
:P
Windy
06-22-2007, 02:06 PM
well i guess everyone has their own opinons and limits and prefences on what and what not should be "used" at work.
however, weed...is such an easy drug to handle. its a middle schooler drug! i mean maybe not everyone can handle it that easy, but it s really not that bad. however i dont smoke anymore like i used to, but if i did now, i dont think id do it at work. id get lazy so fucking fast i would just wanna lay down the rest of the shift!
but on the other hand, being stoned makes me really "into" something...so maybe stoned dancing would be nice...haha.
Somebody said doing E like once a month maks u look like a "haggard" soon..is that true? haha. i mean i do E alot...but not at work. but i cant see how E would be harmful at work. when im on E, i have control of what im doing. sure im a little woozy but still.
of course coke is the "perfect" drug to do at work cuz it makes you all confident and talkative...haha. however, i hate the feeling i get after the high goes away after 20-30 mins. besides, coke is an expensive habit.
i dont tink its bad to drink or do drugs at work..i mean yeah ordinary jobs you arent' "allowed" to - so thats the fun in stripping..more freedom!
however, just as long you dont get out of control to the point where you let others take advantage of you, you get lazy and dont make any money, or depend on it to "get thru" your shift, then i think its OKAY. (my opinon).
i mean yeah "normal" jobs people get fucked up too..i used to get stoned all the time before working at this deli back in high school. (then i would make AWESOME sandwiches!)
but this job it is more FUN to get buzzed or something cuz its in a different enviroment, yanno?
NinaDaisy
06-22-2007, 02:18 PM
One of the reasons I retired from dancing is because after over 5 years I felt I "needed" a drink before my shift and a Xanax after. That was at Penthouse Executive Club. I only worked there for a few months, but had a hard time getting through a shift sober and even then I'd get home with this weird, drunk/anxious combo that "required" the Xanax to chill me out.
Prior to that, I would maybe have a few drinks at work now and then, got drunk maybe a handful of times, but avoided it in general because I didn't want anything to fuck with my hustle.
My first year dancing though, I did do E at work once, and it was a stage-dancing only club. I made $600 that night as opposed to the usual $200-$300 I'd typically make there! ::) That was the only time I ever did that at work though.
I smoked pot at work once and got so paranoid that I couldn't go out on stage or on the floor. One of the other dancers covered for me and told the manager I had hellacious cramps.
I'm such a pussy... :P
Kaylinn
06-22-2007, 02:29 PM
Prettylilcarmellostrippa:
Reread what I said. I never called YOU dumb. I said it was the dumbest thing I ever READ. And it was. Ok...you didn't mean you can go get some new lungs right now. But do you really want to justify your drug use by saying that medical advances are growing and by 2079 you'll be able to get some new organs. Do you really thinkthey are just gonna start handing out lungs to the pot smokers and livers to the alcoholics?
No..I didn't call YOU dumb. But keep talking like you have been and I'll change my mind on that.
And I do not appriciate the name calling in your post.(HOE) Getting so worked up and defensive and resorting to name calling not only makes you look"dumb" but it also makes you look very immature and silly. So grow up.;)
I am drug free. I haven't smoked weed in years, and I've never tried any other drug.
However, I do not care what others choose to do, as long as it is done in a responsible manner that does not affect my own life. Bringing drugs into work can affect my life, so I'm not cool with it.
VegasPrincess
06-22-2007, 02:43 PM
Personally, I drink at work. It's part of what makes me like this job. I do very well because I'm "having fun!" all night, most of the time. I don't ever get wasted though (okay, I have before but never on purpose) because then I couldn't dance, talk to people, or whatever very well.
I don't think there's any difference between being drunk or stoned. Either way you're fucked up. I personally don't even smoke pot so I can't even imagine what it feels like to be stoned at work, but either way you're impaired. I don't see the difference.
When it becomes a problem is when you have to drink/ do drugs at work. I don't really drink much outside of work, and I don't work every day by any means, so I think there is nothing wrong with me having a few cocktails or some champagne at work.
Katrine
06-22-2007, 04:04 PM
well that sure isnt true for me. i have been doing E for over ten years. i still look the exact same.
I can attest to this!
In my experience, anything I did during work aside from light drinking killed my hustled. I smoked pot: got paranoid and sat in the corner with one guy not spending money. I dropped E: made out with a cute guy then sat around taking shots with a bunch of russians, occasionally giving dances. Coke: sat around drinking with the dealer. Ya'll get the drift.....drugs can be bad for your hustle. For those who use during, try it sober, you might make more money. Plus, guys will take advantage of wasted girls in either pushing the limits or trying to get free attention. But I can't speak for anyone but myself.
TheLioness
06-22-2007, 05:42 PM
Thank You!!!
The know-it-alls who swear they can tell when everybody is high (weed) kill me! How the hell do you know? For all intents and purposes, I'm always high! (just different levels of it)}:D
I'm sure that everyone acts different when they're high. But I work with a guy that smokes weed all the time and I can ALWAYS tell when he's fucked up. If I have to call him after work for something I can tell whether he's been drinking or smoking. If he's been drinking he'll slur his words and act kinda loopy. If he's been smoking, it'll take him like 30 seconds to answer a simple question I just asked. And he will use "uh" and "um" as space fillers because he thinks that if he does that I won't be able to tell.
The funny thing is, when I ask him how much he's smoked or how many beers he's had, he'll always say "how did you know" lol. It's only annoying when I'm in a hurry because he'll turn a 5 minute conversation into 30 minutes. But honestly I just think he's entertaining when he's high or drunk :)
rdwwet
06-22-2007, 05:48 PM
I can smoke weed at any lazy job but not one where my momey depends on me staying on my toes, same for drinking.
E however makes me feel sooooooo sexy and happy so I dont know how I will be able to resist popping an hr before I go into the club.
rdwwet
06-22-2007, 05:49 PM
I'm sure that everyone acts different when they're high. But I work with a guy that smokes weed all the time and I can ALWAYS tell when he's fucked up. If I have to call him after work for something I can tell whether he's been drinking or smoking. If he's been drinking he'll slur his words and act kinda loopy. If he's been smoking, it'll take him like 30 seconds to answer a simple question I just asked. And he will use "uh" and "um" as space fillers because he thinks that if he does that I won't be able to tell.
The funny thing is, when I ask him how much he's smoked or how many beers he's had, he'll always say "how did you know" lol. It's only annoying when I'm in a hurry because he'll turn a 5 minute conversation into 30 minutes. But honestly I just think he's entertaining when he's high or drunk :)
LOL Customers would have NO fun talking to me if I was fun at work. My boredom with them would probably be sooo obvious and I wouldnt bother trying to be flirty.
TheLioness
06-22-2007, 05:49 PM
now as for the quote i quoted above, prettylilcarmello, there are MANY MANY MANY tests and studies that have been done to show the long term affects. one study shows the brain (cat scan) with little and moderate smoking, another shows it with heavy/daily usage. and there is definitely an effect on the brain, where you aren't capable of cognitively remembering (we all knwo that one), where you aren't capable of fully understanding and digesting thoughts/ideas, where you aren't capable of emotional understanding and instead get very angry very quickly. there is also a lack of kidney function that is related to smoking pot, a lot of potheads from the 60s, if you did a quick study, are on dialysis (read this somewhere but where i cannot remember). so, in essence there are a ton of studies you can find done by doctors, psychologists, teachers and researches alike who have found that the long term affects of daily usage is very negative on the body and cognitive reasoning goes out the window.
I should have done a multiple quote but oh well. I just have to tell this story. My brother spent 90 days in jail for weed & drug paraphernalia several years ago. We were riding around one day after he got out of jail and I still remember our conversation word for word lol.
Him: You know how they say that smoking weed makes you dumb?
Me: Yeah?
Him: I haven't smoked in 3 months and I don't feel any smarter yet.
I still laugh about that and it's been 10 years ago!
I don't personally know any of you on here (except for buffie06) but I am very against E. A few years ago, I ended up in the hospital from E that someone had slipped me. I went into cardiac arrest and almost died. It scares me that beautiful girls are doing it! You guys that do it on a regular basis need to be careful. You don't "need" to be high in some way to work. If you get into the habit of working stone cold sober dancing will become easier, less stressful, and you'll make more money. This is just my opinion, I used to have to get drunk at work just to function....
JustJayda
06-22-2007, 07:34 PM
Here's my thing, to everyone who swears they can tell when EVERYONE is high (weed), how do you know??? Everyone does not present. Yes, there are common tells, but everyone does not exhibit them. Just like playing Poker, having HIV, being a crackhead, or a stripper etc.
There are some ppl, that you'd never know were high, unless you tested them. You are not Superman/a super hero!!!You're just observant enough to see the people that are showing something!!!!! If they ain't showing nothing, you can't tell...duh!!!!!Further, everyone doesn't smoke the same strain/grade of pot, and they definately have different effects on different folks, to include NO TELLS.
And I'm not physician, but I'd guess BMI may have something to do with this, as well as metabolism, and a few other physiological factors.
Brandy420
06-22-2007, 08:38 PM
of course coke is the "perfect" drug to do at work cuz it makes you all confident and talkative...haha. however, i hate the feeling i get after the high goes away after 20-30 mins. besides, coke is an expensive habit.
Coke may be fine till you hang upside down and your nose bleeds:-[
It'll happen sooner or later.
Windy
06-23-2007, 12:06 AM
Coke may be fine till you hang upside down and your nose bleeds:-[
It'll happen sooner or later.
yeah that sucks. well it would be perfect....lol.
redhothoney
06-23-2007, 12:29 AM
If you have to get fucked up to work then maybe this isn't your cup of tea?...
CupCake
06-23-2007, 04:30 AM
^^ahmen...
flickad
06-23-2007, 05:52 AM
If you have to get fucked up to work then maybe this isn't your cup of tea?...
Thirded.
Also, it's a good idea in general not to do something that will wind up fucking up various brain functions. Now personally, I have no vested interest in whether or not someone else wants to fuck themselves up. It's not like it keeps me up at night if some stranger wants to fill herself to the brim with toxic chemicals (says I, as I contemplate another cigarette :P). It's just sad to see the resulting destruction, is all.
LatinaRose
06-23-2007, 09:53 AM
It's just sad to see the resulting destruction, is all.
Ya know, occasional drug use does not always result in self destruction. I'd be more worried about those cigs than I would about a little bit of coke or a hit of E.
Samba
06-23-2007, 10:02 AM
^^^True, but I don't think you can do something everyday and still call it occasional.
Yes, as for me, I smoke everyday, regularly.
I'm not picking on you PLCS, just so ya know.
jasmine
06-23-2007, 03:42 PM
Here's my thing, to everyone who swears they can tell when EVERYONE is high (weed), how do you know??? Everyone does not present. Yes, there are common tells, but everyone does not exhibit them. Just like playing Poker, having HIV, being a crackhead, or a stripper etc.
There are some ppl, that you'd never know were high, unless you tested them. You are not Superman/a super hero!!!You're just observant enough to see the people that are showing something!!!!! If they ain't showing nothing, you can't tell...duh!!!!!Further, everyone doesn't smoke the same strain/grade of pot, and they definately have different effects on different folks, to include NO TELLS.
And I'm not physician, but I'd guess BMI may have something to do with this, as well as metabolism, and a few other physiological factors.
BMI could affect it if you have only had a small hit of really bad weed, but none of the light users that I've known have been in denial about this. I really don't think I'm superman, but do you really think you react differently to a chemical than all the other people on the planet? Alcoholics often think this as well and they have done numerous tests that show that they only think they are not showing signs of intoxication. That being said, if you only do 1 hit or so and don't interact with anyone, I really don't believe anyone could tell, and if you aren't really messed up, I doubt most drunk custys could tell.
TheSexKitten
06-23-2007, 05:02 PM
Ya know, occasional drug use does not always result in self destruction. I'd be more worried about those cigs than I would about a little bit of coke or a hit of E.
Amen.
AlexxaHex
06-23-2007, 07:21 PM
I used to take Vicodin pretty regularly and drink at work. Sometimes I mixed the two. I felt like I hustled better when I was high on pills, and in all actuality, I did sell more dances. They made me more talkative and relaxed. My anxiety (which I do genuinely have) was greatly lessened. But that was why I had to stop. I swore that if I had to get fucked up to do my job, I shouldn't be doing it. I started only taking them outside of work and then not at all. I don't think I was addicted to the point where I would seek them out constantly, but I couldn't refuse them if they were around. And I think now that if you are a stripper and you actually pay for drugs, you have a problem. I started seeing what it was doing to me and had the mind to chill out on it.
A few friends of mine were not so lucky as to be able to see their futures with pain pills. One killed himself and another friend started doing heroin because pills were no longer enough for her. I am very grateful that it wasn't me.
I think that "hustling better" thing can actually be a really destructive excuse too. I may have turned some customers off who could tell I wasn't sober. I don't want to turn this post into some anti-drug commercial or anything. I think some people can function when they are high, but it seems as though a couple of the drug users here are awfully defensive about their habits (whether they be occasional or frequent). I understand because I felt that way too. I'd use the excuse that pills are prescription and therefore they are safe (*cough*bullshit*cough*). Then I realized it was foolish to try and defend something that is proven to be harmful, addictive and often unnecessary. There really aren't a whole lot of positive things you can say about drugs in general, even weed. In the way that they affect our lives, they are all the same, no matter if they are naturally grown, created in a lab for legal commercial sale, concocted in someone's basement or bought at the liquor store.
Picaresque
06-23-2007, 08:18 PM
^^ good points.
About selling more dances when high...the first time I ever took E at work, I made almost 2 grand on a double shift. (And no, this wasn't in the legendary late 1990's ;) ). But instead of thinking "wow, I should take E every time I work", I thought "ok, let me think about exactly how it caused me to act and feel differently, and work on duplicating that at work *without* the pills." So I took the rest of that one pill (yes, I only take 1/3 of a pill at a time...for me that's always been more than enough!)...and used those next 2 shifts as a learning experience. Paying attention to, how am I different when I'm high, what am I doing when high that causes customers to have a more positive reaction? Body language was a BIG thing, I found out...as well as not choking when asking for dances, not tensing up or placing too much importance on any one sale. When I was high I was uber-relaxed, yet still the life of the party, and I just *flowed*--physically, verbally, mentally, everywhichway. Feeling all that and paying close attention to it while high was a valuable learning experience, and when I got to the place (after a week) where I could naturally mimick that vibe and flow without actually taking the drug, it helped my hustle *greatly*.
Anyway, I've *never* felt that I *needed* to be high (or drunk, or whatever) to work. Obviously I don't...I usually work 4-5 shifts a week, and if I can do that indefinitely without any E, and make good money consistently and not feel like I need anything....then I'd say I'm okay. :) Every once in awhile, 1/3 of a pill just makes a nice treat.
AlexxaHex
06-23-2007, 08:27 PM
That's really interesting, because another dancer once told me that she pretends to roll sometimes and makes great money because of it. One night I tried it and customers were loving it. It's a hard feeling for me to duplicate all the time though.
Picaresque
06-23-2007, 08:37 PM
^^ yeah, I told another girl at one of my clubs about that, and she replied "oh yeah I do that too! actually I take my vitamin right before work sometimes and it's like a placebo thing." :P
flickad
06-24-2007, 02:22 AM
Ya know, occasional drug use does not always result in self destruction. I'd be more worried about those cigs than I would about a little bit of coke or a hit of E.
I wasn't talking about occasional use, if by occasional you mean once in a blue moon.
Narcotics, used regularly, cause problems at a far more rapid rate than do cigarettes. I don't think it's OMFG terrible to have a very, very rare does of party drugs- I don't see chemical use as being in any way a moral wrong or even necessarily especially destructive if used maybe once or twice a year under safe conditions. However, as someone who has seen (many times over) the kinds of things that happen (rather rapidly) to the minds of people who use supposedly innocuous recreational drugs on any kind of regular basis, I think it's safe to say that we're better off avoiding them on the most part.
NinaDaisy
06-24-2007, 02:38 AM
Ya know, occasional drug use does not always result in self destruction. I'd be more worried about those cigs than I would about a little bit of coke or a hit of E.
Cigarettes, over the long term, will likely kill you. And I'm saying this as someone who is still smoking since November after quitting for a while.
The difference is, I've met people who can do a bump here and there at a party and take it or leave it and I've also met people who became quickly addicted and the total cliched afterschool special where they lost their jobs, house, family, you name it.
I've met dancers who have blown everything they've earned up their nose. That hasn't been quite the case with cigarettes.
Regardless, people in "straight" jobs aren't immune to this sort of thing either. I have one friend who even though she doesn't have ADHD claims she can't get through a day of work without 40 Mg's of Aderall and know of other people who rely on Xanax and other anti-anxiety drugs as well.
I don't think it's just a stripper thing necessarily. Sure, strip clubs are definitely a bit different because the rules are more lax in many ways and most serve alcohol and encourage dancers to be "social", but the truth is that for most people work is work and it sucks and a lot of people are just trying to get through those eight hours each day from 9-5 the best they can.
Not saying it's a valid excuse, but it happens all over the damn place.
Laylas
06-24-2007, 04:45 AM
Ya know, occasional drug use does not always result in self destruction. I'd be more worried about those cigs than I would about a little bit of coke or a hit of E.
I had a manager who LOVED to rag on me for smoking weed occasionally and tanning (aka: laying outside in my bikini a couple days a week.) She would always look at my tan lines, sigh, then go off into a tangent about how BAD the sun is for you and how FAST it was making me age (and was I saving for my first face lift? Cause I was going to NEED it soon!) and how I would die of skin cancer before I was 30. And because I smoked herb, I would wake up dead one day soon with a needle in my arm (???).
As she was ranting, she was chain smoking her Marlboros and BLOWING SMOKE IN MY FACE. She was up to a three pack a day habit when I left, oh, and did I mention she was seven months pregnant? :O
People like to feel better about their own demons by saying "Well, at least I'm not xxxxxxx! Now THAT'S harmful to your health." It gets very annoying and hypocritical..."people in glass houses" and all that....
JustJayda
06-24-2007, 06:36 AM
BMI could affect it if you have only had a small hit of really bad weed, but none of the light users that I've known have been in denial about this. I really don't think I'm superman, but do you really think you react differently to a chemical than all the other people on the planet? Alcoholics often think this as well and they have done numerous tests that show that they only think they are not showing signs of intoxication. That being said, if you only do 1 hit or so and don't interact with anyone, I really don't believe anyone could tell, and if you aren't really messed up, I doubt most drunk custys could tell.
all the other people on the planet? Okayyyyyyyyy:-X My body may be having the "same" reactions on the inside.... dunno.
All, I'm saying is everyone doesn't shoe the same tell-tale signs. IMHO, for every 5 people you can easily recognize as high or stoned, there's one that shows no easily scoped indications.
This isn't personal, btw Jasmine. I just know we never knew the Reverend was high when he preached every Sunday, until he actually got busted and confessed.
Okay..I made that up:-[
flickad
06-24-2007, 06:37 AM
I had a manager who LOVED to rag on me for smoking weed occasionally and tanning (aka: laying outside in my bikini a couple days a week.) She would always look at my tan lines, sigh, then go off into a tangent about how BAD the sun is for you and how FAST it was making me age (and was I saving for my first face lift? Cause I was going to NEED it soon!) and how I would die of skin cancer before I was 30. And because I smoked herb, I would wake up dead one day soon with a needle in my arm (???).
As she was ranting, she was chain smoking her Marlboros and BLOWING SMOKE IN MY FACE. She was up to a three pack a day habit when I left, oh, and did I mention she was seven months pregnant? :O
People like to feel better about their own demons by saying "Well, at least I'm not xxxxxxx! Now THAT'S harmful to your health." It gets very annoying and hypocritical..."people in glass houses" and all that....
Personally, I wasn't saying 'well, at least I'm not xxxxx', in fact, I specifically mentioned my own harmful habits so as to avoid coming off as someone who thought I was Little Miss Perfect in the health department. I don't, by any means. What I was doing was expressing concern for those who do end up with loss of brain function as a result of drug use, not saying that legal but nonetheless destructive addictions by comparison are innocuous. They are merely different. I am by no means stating that smoking is harmless- indeed, if I don't quit, I'm well aware that I will most likely suffer painful and even fatal consequences in a few decades. The difference is only that regular drug users will see consequences at a much more rapid rate and that those consequences will be different.
Again, I am not talking about those who use on a very occasional basis and can 'take or leave' their drug of choice, as NinaDaisy put it. I am talking about people who use at least every two to three weeks and who use substances to get through a shift or simply to have a good time, but too regularly. They are the people who will start seeing brain damage, and as someone who's had friends go down that route, I can't help but feel that the loss of potential is sad. I'm not moralising- we're all free to 'choose our own blues', and I've certainly chosen mine- but I am saying that any kind of regularly indulged in chemical fun just isn't consequence-free.
Laylas
06-24-2007, 06:59 AM
^^^really wasn't referring to you specifically...this whole thread just reminded me of an old manager I used to work with :)
Casey4Now
06-24-2007, 09:10 AM
Cigarettes, over the long term, will likely kill you. And I'm saying this as someone who is still smoking since November after quitting for a while.
The difference is, I've met people who can do a bump here and there at a party and take it or leave it and I've also met people who became quickly addicted and the total cliched afterschool special where they lost their jobs, house, family, you name it.
I've met dancers who have blown everything they've earned up their nose. That hasn't been quite the case with cigarettes.
Regardless, people in "straight" jobs aren't immune to this sort of thing either. I have one friend who even though she doesn't have ADHD claims she can't get through a day of work without 40 Mg's of Aderall and know of other people who rely on Xanax and other anti-anxiety drugs as well.
I don't think it's just a stripper thing necessarily. Sure, strip clubs are definitely a bit different because the rules are more lax in many ways and most serve alcohol and encourage dancers to be "social", but the truth is that for most people work is work and it sucks and a lot of people are just trying to get through those eight hours each day from 9-5 the best they can.
Not saying it's a valid excuse, but it happens all over the damn place.
I agree with this. My 9-5 job is in the legal field, I have seen many attorneys, accountants and/or legal secretaries lose more than their jobs/careers over a vicodin, cocaine/crack, alcohol and even a heroin addiction. Trust me it happens everywhere.
Katrine
06-24-2007, 10:13 AM
It happens everywhere, but it isn't generally accepted and excused. Mr. Attorney doesn't see clients and prospective clients while drinking a Godiva martini in his office.
When the office manager is drunk at the office every day for a month, she doesn't get sent home for a few days with a warning and a smack on the ass. At least not these days. She would have been fired a long time ago.
Buying drugs doesn't make you an addict either. I rarely bought cocaine for the 4 years I was actively addicted to it. We're hot chicks, we can get it from dudes.
Point is, sure drug/alcohol abuse occurs evertwhere, but we are in denial if we think its isn't more prevalent in this industry.
danijamesxxx
06-25-2007, 10:10 AM
I smoke weed every day (this reminds me of a Dr Dre song) and it never really negatively affects my money.... I become a little more spacey for sure, but I get super creative and sensual when I am high, which I find helps me make more money because I feel sexy and confident. I just like the feeling of being high.... I used to be addicted to narcotics but I have traded those and drinking for smoking herb which I think is a lot healthier than many other things.
rdwwet
06-25-2007, 11:01 PM
That's really interesting, because another dancer once told me that she pretends to roll sometimes and makes great money because of it. One night I tried it and customers were loving it. It's a hard feeling for me to duplicate all the time though.
Oh I so want to try this tho I wonder if I can pull it off. So do custies like to know your on E or something????
TigersMilk
06-25-2007, 11:02 PM
^^ Do you really want customers to know you are on E? Pretending is one thing. They can take advantage of you like date rape drug you. Thats so scary.
ExoticEngineer
06-26-2007, 01:49 AM
I thought of this thread tonight...A customer said to me tonight "Can we sit and talk, I'll still pay you for a dance...but you're sober and not all f*d up, so it would be nice to talk..."
He was upset because the first three dancers he had dance for him were as he put it "totally out of it on something...." And it turned him way off.
Just made me think about this.
burnedrose
06-26-2007, 03:30 AM
I dont drink or do drugs...its a job, and I treat it as such. Occasionally, a custy will buy me a shot from the shot girl, but thats maybe once a week, at the max.
Windy
06-26-2007, 03:53 AM
^^ Do you really want customers to know you are on E? Pretending is one thing. They can take advantage of you like date rape drug you. Thats so scary.
I duno when i take E (usualy once a month, or once every 2 months) im always in control of myself...
i also think that the dancers on here who ar all "drug-alachol free" shouldnt be all self righetous. you're not better/more responsible than anyone who does the occasinal drug/drinking at work. *cough* the poster above me *cough*
i just think, as long as you are in control yer self and it doesnt get in the way of your money or become a bad , expesnive habit, drugs are okay,...once in a while ;) lol.
i think it just is a personal prefance..if you feel as if you can control yourself, have more fun and make more money at work while 'under the influence' sometimes, then why not? but if u tottaly hate drugs/drinking, then dont do it ? simple.
i mean sometimes i jus have those bad days, where i either get at least buzzed from tequilla or sniff some coke. i wud do E at work but..i duno i dont wanna waste the high...i only like doin E with my b/f so we can stay up till 8am and have sex all night long ;)
i mean our job is a hard job..sometimes..emotionaly..so sometimes, gotta find a way to cope with it...and of course drinking/drugs shouldnt be the ONLY way to cope with it(should try to cope with it with strongness, motivation, determation, etc)...but sometimes its a fun and easy shortcut. (i think)
CupCake
06-26-2007, 04:02 AM
No one is acting self-righteous
It's a job, treat it as such.
So your always in control on yourself when your on E, let's say that E is laced with something else...will you be in control then.
I'm not saying I don't drink or smoke pot, but it's not something that should be done at work. We are there to do a job and entertain not to be partying. Not saying you shouldn't have a good time but for the safety of yourself and other leave that stuff at home.
LatinaRose
06-26-2007, 09:55 AM
I say do what you wanna do, just don't make an ass out of yourself and be discreet. I don't really give a fuck what anyone else does.
VegasPrincess
06-26-2007, 10:50 AM
I know for a fact that at my club, 9 out of 10 girls drink every night they work. Literally, not an exaggeration. Do you think this is the norm or are we drunken whores in Las Vegas? (lol)
Casey4Now
06-26-2007, 12:31 PM
It happens everywhere, but it isn't generally accepted and excused. Mr. Attorney doesn't see clients and prospective clients while drinking a Godiva martini in his office.
When the office manager is drunk at the office every day for a month, she doesn't get sent home for a few days with a warning and a smack on the ass. At least not these days. She would have been fired a long time ago.
Buying drugs doesn't make you an addict either. I rarely bought cocaine for the 4 years I was actively addicted to it. We're hot chicks, we can get it from dudes.
Point is, sure drug/alcohol abuse occurs evertwhere, but we are in denial if we think its isn't more prevalent in this industry.
You would be surprised, last year we had a Office managerr who did handfuls of Vicodin during the day and Heroin every night. She lasted about 2 years and was pulling in a salary of $67,000 while only making it to work about a day & 1/2 each week.
The reason they last so long is the Partners and Senior Attorneys are older and never suspect that this is going on right under there nose. Thanks to my "weekend career" I can spot the lies and excuses a mile away. (also, once when I mention being a little sore I was offered a handful of Vicodin.)
This particular office manager admitted it and told on herself after 2 years thus getting herself fired all by herself.