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Simone NinaNin
04-11-2010, 09:14 PM
^^ the advice you are giving is encouraging girls to do what is essentially on par with extras in several clubs. And while the veterans can be selective and know where/when/what is appropriate, the newbies are a lot more naive.

There is a reason why mostly the newer girls appreciate the advice. Those of us who have danced in a variety of clubs consider this to be bad, and rather dirty for that matter, advice.


If it's cool in your club, more power to you. But it is NOT cool in the majority of clubs across the states.


I am out of my league. I surrender.::)::)::)bah

Simone NinaNin
04-11-2010, 09:31 PM
PS New girls are NEW, not stupid and I am confident that they can weed through the good adivice (yours, of course) and the bad (mine, of course) and make up their own minds. Even more radical, they can ask questions (gasp!) and deal with the answers whether they agree with them or not.


"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

^I guess this applies to everyone in the world except for strippers, right? Of all people who should be squashing civil liberties! ha! All in the name of vanity. Shame on you!

Grow up little girl. This is a job. You are a stripper, not a UN ambassador.

Athenathefabulous
04-11-2010, 09:34 PM
Where did I squash your civil liberties? I agree this is a public forum and you can say whatever the fuck you want to say.

As can I. And I think advice like this encourages more nasty dancers. And we already have enough of those in this industry.

Simone NinaNin
04-11-2010, 09:39 PM
I think it is official: We agree to disagree.

jennsweet
04-11-2010, 09:41 PM
Douchebag custie: "You are far to articulate, intellligent and beautiful to be working here"
Me: ah huh *rolls eyes*
Douchebag custie: "So how much to have u for the night?"

Oh boy!!


OMG we all have this guy every night!! lolol

Firewall
04-11-2010, 09:48 PM
perv: I want to see your pussy.

me: no.

perv: no no! it's totally extra! totally!

*me thinking*: Oh now I really want to ... idiot.

ViolaStrings
04-11-2010, 10:09 PM
I think it is official: We agree to disagree.

You are aware that most cops would take your dirty talk advice as tantamount to the solicitation of prostitution, right? Even discussing sex acts in the abstract isn't wise. Seriously.

dtxgirl
04-11-2010, 10:27 PM
/\....

This.

In certain markets (yours, obviously) This talk is probably normal, and acceptable. I've got no problem with it, at all! I talk dirty IRL.

But in, say, my home market, speaking like that would get me arrested for soliciting prostitution. I'm dead serious. There are a million regional/state/city laws that vary, and in my market, you will get arrested and have a record for asking the custie to buy you a drink, much less speaking like that. I've seen it happen.

Of course, we still have pimped girls, and extras girls, and clean girls too... But it would be a shame if an otherwise clean girl got a record for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.

Zinaida
04-11-2010, 10:34 PM
I agree with Simone partly My first 'exotic job' was in the strip clubs, I never spoke during my lap dances because I figured that that's how the guys would prefer it.

Then I switched to booths full time and dirty talk is a huge part of them. And man, even a little bit goes a long way. I've thought to myself, man I bet now after my booth experience I could get a dude CRAZY in a lap dance just by dirty talking during it. In theory it would be great, but I just don't know how I could pull it off in a couch room full of other dancers, kind of a mood-killer. Or worse, in VIP where we're alone...I don't think I would be able to dirty-talk up a storm without getting raped because of it! Just seems like it would be an awfully hard line to walk.

And of course, the undercover issue like Viola said.

Harleigh HellKat
04-11-2010, 10:35 PM
I think it depends on the area... here in NC it would definitely be solicitation... because EVERYTHING is solicitation here. Say I was married, and my husband came into the club, paid the cover to get in, and hung out. I could not legally get into the car with him, even though we were married, because he was a customer of the club. Or so I've been told.

I usually talk very vaguely about sex, and use experiences that I've had to work them up, like kissing girls or what have you... never saying outright that I want to do anything with them. That's another reason I don't talk about drugs in front of custies... like the girl I was talking about earlier. Even if I had ever rolled in my life, I'd still act dumb as hell.

The whole dirty talking thing really sucks because I think customers want to be talked to in a naughty way, because we're adult entertainers. But it can be sooo dangerous depending on where you live. I know a girl that had a prostitution fine slapped on her in GA for not wearing pasties.

Usually if it's a big issue the club will state it in their rules or a meeting. If they don't say anything, it may not be that big of a deal in your area. Then again, I'm half asleep so I'm probably talking out of my head. :D Kinda like grinding on the floor is a big issue here so it's stated in the rules.

Either way, let's all just agree to be careful and make lots of money!

saphire123456
04-11-2010, 10:39 PM
hmm, maybe i'm just slow, but i don't understand how this could be possibly construed by anyone as solicitation. (and i have worked in like 20 states) As long as we make a very clear distinction between "imagine xyz" and "go jerk off in bathroom" versus "i'm gonna do xyz".
i will admit that the dirty talk approach isn't really used in most markets around the country, but i don't see any legal issue with it, not anymore than asking a guy for a dance

Otoki
04-12-2010, 12:08 AM
She also told me she was on suicide girls and made 3 grand a month working there. o_O I laughed. I know a few SG's and I know how their contract and set approval works, unless they've changed drastically in the past few months.
Funny. I work with a fake SG right now, too. I've never found her anywhere on the site. She claims that it's because they took her pics down, but the only ever did that once, and it was because of some fucked up shit on the model's part.

I mean, I don't have them announce that on stage because I don't want every guy I dance for to look for me on there, but it also fucking annoys me that she would lie about being an SG. Shit, it's not even that cool anyway. I mean, I love the community, but the modeling? Eh. Not that important.

Anyways, yes, back on topic. Your night sounds fucking crazy:O

Lexi_Girl
04-12-2010, 12:44 AM
hmm, maybe i'm just slow, but i don't understand how this could be possibly construed by anyone as solicitation. (and i have worked in like 20 states) As long as we make a very clear distinction between "imagine xyz" and "go jerk off in bathroom" versus "i'm gonna do xyz".
i will admit that the dirty talk approach isn't really used in most markets around the country, but i don't see any legal issue with it, not anymore than asking a guy for a dance

Yea, I'm kind of confused too... As far as I can tell, Simone isn't DOING extras, she's just talking dirty.

Regardless, I was just curious how the overtly sexual hustle worked in regards to guys thinking they might get extras, and just looking for sexier ways to defend against the extras question while not spoiling the mood. Didn't mean to thread jack.

Athenathefabulous
04-12-2010, 02:43 AM
PS New girls are NEW, not stupid and I am confident that they can weed through the good adivice (yours, of course) and the bad (mine, of course) and make up their own minds. Even more radical, they can ask questions (gasp!) and deal with the answers whether they agree with them or not.


"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

^I guess this applies to everyone in the world except for strippers, right? Of all people who should be squashing civil liberties! ha! All in the name of vanity. Shame on you!

Grow up little girl. This is a job. You are a stripper, not a UN ambassador.

Alright now that i have a computer as opposed to my phone...

New girls are new. they are not necessarily well versed in the laws. many of these new girls work in areas riddled with vice, and as VS and dxtgirl said, what you are doing is illegal in several areas across the country.

you are right... this is a job. and most of us want to do this job without ending up in jail. if a newbie takes your advice and works in an area where vice is active, they might end up with tickets, legal issues, and god knows what else.

also, your club as you mentioned is one where the bouncers keep a close watch. some of the other girls might not be so lucky. a newbie who uses dirty talk like this to get a custie into a champagne room without cameras might end up in a world of hurt.

I am sure that your hustle is awesome for your club. and i am sure that you have many hustle tips that are relevant to other clubs. but encouraging graphic dirty talk or jacking off in the bathroom etc is stupid. and naive. and that is coming from a "little girl".

also, im a stripper. not a graphic novelist ;).

dtxgirl
04-12-2010, 05:25 AM
hmm, maybe i'm just slow, but i don't understand how this could be possibly construed by anyone as solicitation. (and i have worked in like 20 states) As long as we make a very clear distinction between "imagine xyz" and "go jerk off in bathroom" versus "i'm gonna do xyz".
i will admit that the dirty talk approach isn't really used in most markets around the country, but i don't see any legal issue with it, not anymore than asking a guy for a dance

I get where you're confused, because it ISN'T soliciting. Obviously, it's not illegal IN HER MARKET. In MY market, it is illegal to:

- Take my shoes off
- ask a custie to buy me a drink.
- my knees touch the floor during a dance.
- if both feet come off the floor during a dance.
- give out a phone number, or any means of communication.

And those are just the main ones. There are hundreds more. But any of those will get me ticketed, or arrested depending on the cop.

Remember the thread not long ago about the girls from "hot lap dance club" in NY? They joked about a threesome with an undercover agent and then went through a horrendous very public legal battle to clear their names of prostitution.

I saw a girl I'm friends with get ticketed for ordering a drink and paying for it herself while sitting with an undercover. If they want to get you, they'll get you. But in a conservative market, why give them more reason?

saphire123456
04-12-2010, 07:24 AM
also, im a stripper. not a graphic novelist ;).

ha, well it can also be argued that "i'm a stripper not a shrink" and "I'm a stripper not a salesperson"- but part of being a good stripper (imo) is having many tricks up your sleeve, so talking dirty is a useful thing to know even if you choose to not use it that much. But i think you hit the nail on the head why it could be a problem.(about it depending on the safety of the club) so talking dirty tips should prolly come with a caution statement since 80% of the girls on here are better off not doing it.


I get where you're confused, because it ISN'T soliciting. Obviously, it's not illegal IN HER MARKET. In MY market, it is illegal to:

- Take my shoes off
- ask a custie to buy me a drink.
- my knees touch the floor during a dance.
- if both feet come off the floor during a dance.
- give out a phone number, or any means of communication.

And those are just the main ones. There are hundreds more. But any of those will get me ticketed, or arrested depending on the cop.

Remember the thread not long ago about the girls from "hot lap dance club" in NY? They joked about a threesome with an undercover agent and then went through a horrendous very public legal battle to clear their names of prostitution.

I saw a girl I'm friends with get ticketed for ordering a drink and paying for it herself while sitting with an undercover. If they want to get you, they'll get you. But in a conservative market, why give them more reason?

Also very true, - so we should encourage the newbies to find out the laws of their city before taking any advice on here- cause yeah there are some crazy regional rules out there

saphire123456
04-12-2010, 07:30 AM
oh and a stupid custy comment from sat
after a dance for a cop i ask if he wants more, custy looks at my right hand and starts freaking out that i shouldn't be dancing cause i'm married. So I'm like" thats not the right hand"- but he's like "no, i know you're married anyway , you just moved it over, you can't fool me"-
me- "huh? it's silver and it doesn't have a diamond..."
him- "no, you can't hang the wool over my eyes,- you're married"
"me (finally getting fed up)-"well thank god you're not a detective"

Juliette25
04-12-2010, 08:31 AM
"well thank god you're not a detective"

:laughing:

Harleigh HellKat
04-12-2010, 09:45 AM
wait... who are you talking about...? I was talking about the chick that overdosed that night. I have no clue what her name is.

Oh wait, I just reread your quote. Oops. :) I was momentarily confused.


Funny. I work with a fake SG right now, too. I've never found her anywhere on the site. She claims that it's because they took her pics down, but the only ever did that once, and it was because of some fucked up shit on the model's part.

I mean, I don't have them announce that on stage because I don't want every guy I dance for to look for me on there, but it also fucking annoys me that she would lie about being an SG. Shit, it's not even that cool anyway. I mean, I love the community, but the modeling? Eh. Not that important.

Anyways, yes, back on topic. Your night sounds fucking crazy:O

chris91
04-13-2010, 05:47 AM
PS New girls are NEW, not stupid and I am confident that they can weed through the good adivice (yours, of course) and the bad (mine, of course) and make up their own minds. Even more radical, they can ask questions (gasp!) and deal with the answers whether they agree with them or not.




I just want to say that I seen nothing wrong with your dirty talk. I don't think it encourages extras. In fact, I think it's a good way to get around the topic of extras with a customer.

Either way, I don't think that the possibility of it being illegal in some places is a good reason to tell people that they shouldn't talk about something. Asking for tips is illegal in some places, as is giving out your number. Girls talk about those things on this forum all the time and nobody even blinks an eye.

saphire123456
04-13-2010, 06:24 AM
Either way, I don't think that the possibility of it being illegal in some places is a good reason to tell people that they shouldn't talk about something. Asking for tips is illegal in some places, as is giving out your number. Girls talk about those things on this forum all the time and nobody even blinks an eye.

yup..

fantasiarene
04-22-2010, 11:12 PM
okay gotta add to this. This one's from Sunday night while I was waitressing. Someone had overflowed the sink in the women's restroom and I had to clean it up with the shopvac. Some custie comes by and says: "Hope that's not too complicated for you."

Monday night guy comes in and I ask if he would like a drink and he pops off with "don't talk to me. I'm broke. It's been fucked up." He said something about bloods, crypts and vicelords. He was creepy. I avoided him while I waitressed.

I don't know if this would count but I wasn't even working and this was said to me. I was at KFC/Taco Bell waiting to get the guy I've been dating something else to eat and this crazy guy comes in. He says some crazy stuff then turn to me and says "what's up sis?" I tell the guy "nothing much" hoping to end it there. He then proceeds to tell me "you must be pregnant." I'M WHAT?!!!!! I know I've gained some weight but I'm not fat! I was so pissed and shocked I hollered I'm leaving this store. I wanted to deck him so bad but with how crazy some people are I'd be afraid of being charged with assault.

Harleigh HellKat
04-23-2010, 01:40 AM
Bloods and Crips are gangs... you did well to leave this alone. Just like the 70 year old man I tried to have a conversation with who started telling me about how he was going to murder someone over a cocaine deal. o_O (Seriously, people that old do coke?!?!?) I have no clue what the heck a 'vicelord' is though.

When I worked in WS we had a lot of crazies. A LOT.

I got the preggo remark once, I was wearing one of 'those' shirts, and my hair client, an elderly fuddy duddy rich trashy woman with too much plastic surgery, grabbed my arm and made me turn to the side. Look lady, I said I wasn't preggo. I don't even like kids. Why do you have to add insult to injury by physically forcing me to turn so you can see??? ::)

fantasiarene
04-24-2010, 01:50 AM
I know they're gangs. Vicelords are also a gang here. I couldn't hear what he said about those three. I'm thinking it was that he'd had to deal with those gangs all day at that point. I don't know. I left him alone because he didn't have money to buy drinks on top of that.

J.D.
04-24-2010, 07:25 AM
How about a homeless guy came in, my friend and I danced for him, then he couldn't pay us. He was living out of his backpack! This job is SOOO glamorous sometimes! ::)

Juliette25
04-24-2010, 08:49 AM
How about a homeless guy came in, my friend and I danced for him, then he couldn't pay us. He was living out of his backpack! This job is SOOO glamorous sometimes! ::)

LOL we should probably get the money from homeless dudes up front.

Harleigh HellKat
04-24-2010, 12:39 PM
Panhandling is lucrative. :D

Athenathefabulous
04-25-2010, 04:20 PM
idiot: "This is embarrassing, but i cant get a dance because I just did a whole bunch of coke over there and now i cant get my dick up."

:banghead:

jennsweet
04-25-2010, 04:35 PM
"your ass isn't the best ive seen, but its one of the better ones here tonight...."


~GEE THANKS

Simone NinaNin
04-26-2010, 10:22 AM
"your ass isn't the best ive seen, but its one of the better ones here tonight...."


~GEE THANKS

What a backhanded compliment. How did his wife get so lucky???::)

Juliette25
04-26-2010, 11:23 AM
idiot: "This is embarrassing, but i cant get a dance because I just did a whole bunch of coke over there and now i cant get my dick up."

:banghead:
LOL.... Jesus.

CKXXX
04-28-2010, 09:33 AM
idiot: "This is embarrassing, but i cant get a dance because I just did a whole bunch of coke over there and now i cant get my dick up."

:banghead:

My first champagne room ever the guy was all coked up and kept apologizing to us(he too 2 of us girls back there)that he could get hard so he couldnt fuck us.

Being green and immediately thinking OH SHIT is THIS what goes on back here I was relieved when she laughed and said that he wouldnt have been doing that anyway.

Jasmin96
05-02-2010, 10:46 PM
"your ass isn't the best ive seen, but its one of the better ones here tonight...."


~GEE THANKS

I got a variation of that from a female customer one night... I am in the minority, but I enjoy 85% of the female customers. They seem to warm up to me most of the time when I play it right. However, one night, a big group came in, and the guys were pretty drunk and rowdy. They were flirting/teasing with me, and a girl in the group came to my defense with:

"Hey, be quiet! She's one of the hottest girls here."

Just when I was about to "aww... *blush*" She adds, "I mean, she's not all that hot, but still."

(The best part was she was probably about 50 lbs. overweight. Ha.)

Harleigh HellKat
05-03-2010, 01:46 AM
Why is it always big girls that are the most judgmental at the club? Coincidently, these are also the drunk bitches I trip over while trying to get to MY stage. Seriously, bitch... you're not a stripper. You're a weekend warrior. Take your ass to the club club. And get off the floor/MY stage/the stairs to my stage etc shaking your fat rolls everywhere and looking at me like I don't know what I'm doing... while I'm the one hanging upside down in 8 inchers from a twenty foot pole.

That being said, I like dancing for women. It's just these stupid wannabe strippers I HATE.

rubyredlipsss
05-03-2010, 02:03 AM
^seriously! i was on stage and i was wearing a push up bra, not super padded or anything and i was on my back and took it off and she's all "oh nice bra" i should've kicked in her the face. she was also probably 50 lbs overweight and fugly.

GlitterBexie
05-03-2010, 08:41 AM
Me ''Hiya, are you guys having a good night?''
Customer ''She thinks she's perfect!! Look at her stretchmarks, haaaaa, you're not all that! hahahahaaa!''
Me ''Nice.....Bye''

chitownchick
05-03-2010, 09:22 AM
im going to ignore all the arguing going on in every thread i read: i dont understand the reason for it, but go on if you must.

best customer comment:

custy: i like you alot,
Me: well your really sweet as well
custy: id really like to take you out to dinner sometime-AND ID LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU FROM THE INSIDE OUT
me: (saying something,quickly before i vomit

sananeko
05-14-2010, 04:56 PM
Please.. just give me a normal day...

Me sitting quietly again with a drink when a guy comes up.

guy: Hello little lady.

me: (thinking please help me..) Hello.

guy: Lets cut the small talk, I will give you a twenty if you show me your fake boobs.

me: (thinking Fake... thats it..) Sound like you know what you want to see.

guy: Yep so we have a deal? (pulling out a real twenty)

Me: Pay me first and I'll show you my fake boobs.

Guy: I was hoping you show me them first then get paid.

Me: I'm a business women that don't trust people in my line to work to pay afterwards.

Guy: I'm trustworthy.

me: Its my rules and anyways if you pay me its like signing a verbal contract making it so I have to do unless I want to give back the twenty.

Guy: (I guess thinking it over) Sounds like its a deal. (hands me the twenty.

Me: (smiles and pretend to pull up my top and skake my fake boobs) Have a nice day.

Guy: Hey You said you would show me your boobs if I paid first.

me: I did. You said you would pay to see my fake boobs. Fake can also mean not real or imaginary and I showed you my fake breast. So it means I finished out contract. (me getting up with the twenty and my drink) I believe next time you should work out all details before agreeing to any agreements. Oh and they are real.
(walks away feeling better about my day)

CherryBomb954
05-15-2010, 04:05 AM
Last night when I was having a drink before shift at the bar:

Guy at bar, points to one of our best dancers while she is on stage, who is also VERY flexible......

Guy: "Don't you hate her?"
Me: "Noooo....why would you say that?"
Guy: "Cause she is so flexible and can do such amazing stuff on stage. I bet YOU can't do that!"

Me: "No, I can't but we all have our own style" (I smile and look away)

So, even though I looked away he continues to talk:

Guy: (laughs) "I mean, if I were you, I'd be hating her soooo much" (laughs again)

Me: "Are you trying to get me to say something bad about my co-worker? Because I won't. I don't play games, sorry"

Now we all know this guy is OBVIOUSLY the type that likes to pit dancers against each other and I am not gonna go for it.

Guy: (laughs again) "Oh yeah, uh-huh, ok"

GET A LIFE.

ViolaStrings
05-15-2010, 09:06 AM
What a jack ass.

Su Su
05-16-2010, 05:06 AM
Customer: Show us your hamburger!
(referring to vagina)

Otoki
05-16-2010, 08:31 AM
Customer: Show us your hamburger!
(referring to vagina)
That my very well be the least sexy euphemism for vagina since roast beef.

ViolaStrings
05-16-2010, 10:02 AM
That is so fucking corny and nasty. BARF.

Su Su
05-16-2010, 08:25 PM
Hahah I know right :P

charlie61
05-18-2010, 10:28 AM
Last night when I was having a drink before shift at the bar:

Guy at bar, points to one of our best dancers while she is on stage, who is also VERY flexible......

Guy: "Don't you hate her?"
Me: "Noooo....why would you say that?"
Guy: "Cause she is so flexible and can do such amazing stuff on stage. I bet YOU can't do that!"

Me: "No, I can't but we all have our own style" (I smile and look away)

So, even though I looked away he continues to talk:

Guy: (laughs) "I mean, if I were you, I'd be hating her soooo much" (laughs again)

Me: "Are you trying to get me to say something bad about my co-worker? Because I won't. I don't play games, sorry"

Now we all know this guy is OBVIOUSLY the type that likes to pit dancers against each other and I am not gonna go for it.

Guy: (laughs again) "Oh yeah, uh-huh, ok"

GET A LIFE.

Ew. Who the fuck says shit like that?

GlitterBexie
05-29-2010, 09:40 AM
Genuine comment from a man who WAS NOT drunk to me last night...

''So, do you, like, get raped a lot and stuff?''

I was like''PARDON??''

He went on to say that he was sure most men wouldnt be able to control their urges what with us being sexy and naked and all and that we MUST get raped a lot...

ViolaStrings
05-29-2010, 10:03 AM
^ what the fuck?! What a sicko. He probably got off from saying something like that to you. GROSS.

Harleigh HellKat
05-29-2010, 11:18 AM
I would have been like... 'No because you see that big beefy guy over there? Well he carries a side arm and is an ex Navy Seal. He could snap a potential rapist like a twig." o_O

Me: Math isn't my strongest subject.

Stupid Nascar fan, facetiously: You should really learn that, math's important. Go to school and do something with your life.

Me: I'm not fucking stupid. I have an extremely high IQ. I just fucking hate math. I can spell circles around you, bub.

Victoria669Jones
05-29-2010, 12:40 PM
Genuine comment from a man who WAS NOT drunk to me last night...

''So, do you, like, get raped a lot and stuff?''

I was like''PARDON??''

He went on to say that he was sure most men wouldnt be able to control their urges what with us being sexy and naked and all and that we MUST get raped a lot...


Yes because it's our fault that those poor, vulnerable men can't control their 'urges'. ::) Fucking asshole.

Otoki
05-30-2010, 08:14 AM
Genuine comment from a man who WAS NOT drunk to me last night...

''So, do you, like, get raped a lot and stuff?''

I was like''PARDON??''

He went on to say that he was sure most men wouldnt be able to control their urges what with us being sexy and naked and all and that we MUST get raped a lot...

Maybe he's been reading this guy's blog:

http://eivindberge.blogspot.com/2009/05/rape-is-equality.htm

You want stupid, read ALL of the comments. This is why when someone gives me a creepy vibe I don't dance for them. I hope they don't have strip clubs in Norway. If they do, I hope they don't let this psycho in.:O