View Full Version : Exteeeeeeeeended VIP
laurcon
02-10-2010, 02:34 PM
many many of the 6hr rooms going on in manhattan, vegas or miami involve the guests partaking in cocaine. obviously i'm not saying all of them by any means, only that i wouldn't get down on myself for not having them happen constantly. i've had customers do coke back there and i really don't give a fuck cause it keeps them longer and they aren't trying to get off cause they can't, just talking forever.
hope this isn't taken the wrong way, i'm just being honest.
KS_Stevia
02-10-2010, 03:09 PM
This is also what I heard about the VIP rooms in Manhattan, specifically at PEC back in the day.
saphire123456
02-10-2010, 03:51 PM
i had custies do coke off my ass....
Athenathefabulous
02-10-2010, 07:43 PM
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luvbuniz
02-11-2010, 03:14 AM
The longest VIP I've ever had is 4 hours and all we really did was chat and laugh. In fact, he sat me down and said he'd rather talk. Having really good chemistry helps. We have twister in our champagne room, I played it once, and then realized I needed to be more flexible! :O
The best advice is too get him talking and not go overboard on the dances. Get him to 'fall in love with you'. Getting him a little tipsy helps, not too much as he needs to sign the bill.
audrey_k
02-11-2010, 03:33 PM
many many of the 6hr rooms going on in manhattan, vegas or miami involve the guests partaking in cocaine. obviously i'm not saying all of them by any means, only that i wouldn't get down on myself for not having them happen constantly. i've had customers do coke back there and i really don't give a fuck cause it keeps them longer and they aren't trying to get off cause they can't, just talking forever.
hope this isn't taken the wrong way, i'm just being honest.
I've had so many guys agree to VIPS if I promise to do coke with them, it's pathetic how many guys just want someone to do drugs with them. Of course I just do a bump and breath out instead of in so it goes on the floor, but I've sold tons of dances this way.
saphire123456
02-12-2010, 07:50 AM
yeah, i've done that too, there's prolly a whole mountain of coke behind the couch in the cr thanks to me
Athenathefabulous
02-12-2010, 09:08 AM
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laurcon
02-12-2010, 09:27 AM
you breath out so all of the customers blow goes on the floor? or you just have it so the line for you goes on the floor.
because if you are doing something that causes a bunch of coke to go on the floor, this might be dangerous. If you have a coked up customer notice you breath out so a lot of really expensive pure coke ends up on the floor, you might be in for a violent reaction.
really.
im one of the more lax people on this board when it comes to drugs, but you dont want to piss off coke heads by doing something like that-- coked up guys who are also bent on feeding their egos are not the most stable people, and will be more likely to lash out violently than the average joe. i have seen some pissed off coke heads do some DUMB things in a moment of rage. So, if you choose to do something this risky, i hope your club has cameras or bouncers nearby. Be careful.
yes this is the same reason i don't pour out champagne into the bucket. i feel like if a customer saw you do that which isn't far-fetched, how are you gonna pretend that was an accident? wtf are you gonna say when he says "you just begged me to buy that $500 bottle, said it was your favorite and makes you really tipsy and fun, and you're pouring it out??"
what i do instead is try to get the drinks mixed up and just keep handing him the most full one. doesn't work as well but i'm a big baby and wouldn't just wouldn't risk dumping it out. it might totally be worth the risk to other girls, but i just hate having people mad at me or even being deceitful.
Athenathefabulous
02-12-2010, 09:36 AM
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ViolaStrings
02-12-2010, 09:41 AM
I feel the same way about girls who promise more contact than they're actually going to give. I was in a room last night with a girl who promised all sorts of stuff, then the guy was PISSED she was a no-contact dancer. I told her afterwards she might not want to do that, guys can get violent, and she was like "Good, let them hit me! I have their money!"
M3wlove
10-07-2010, 01:15 AM
lets resuscitate this thread!i did a 2 vip and would love to do more. honestly, i dont give a shit if the guy wants to do coke in the room with me, i'd just be annoyed if he wants me to do some with him, like with most drinkers. i don't mind drinking a little, but the last time i got a room the guy expected me to to drink half the champagne bottle with him! i managed to pour a glass into the bucket before i got paranoid he'd see me.
i think what works for me best is trading stories, both sexy and not sexy ones. if you're good at steering conversations you can make the guy talk more about himself and act fascinated. he'll think there's a great conversation going on (and sometimes it is!) but really it's mostly him doing the talking. you can toss in tidbits about yourself so he'll be more into you as well, but make them distinct and want to spend more time with you.
Otoki
10-25-2010, 08:19 PM
I do best with guys who want me to be either goofy, politically educated, or REALLY into stories. I've never gotten extended VIP's by just dancing.
kitinboots
11-07-2010, 02:38 PM
I had 5 1/2 hours with a guy once and we barely talked. He bought the time 30mins at a time, so I'd chat a little, sip my drink, giggle, dance, drink, smoke, dance, wait while he paid by card again, wait for our new drinks to arrive, run to the toilets/wait for him to run to the toilets and start again.
I was sooooo exhausted by the end I was hoping he'd stop and go home. He came back a month later but only took 30mins the next time...
anouk.oui
11-16-2010, 07:15 PM
i always build a rapport with them and have grat conversation, start a story just before times up but a lot of the time they still wont extend.... i had long shows happen for me before but its not as frequent as id like it to be
Emanuelle
10-18-2011, 07:41 AM
I worked at a club in Vegas with the twister board! It was so much fun, especially with groups of guys & we'd pull it out after a couple hours when the guys were ready to leave. Who can say no to "if you stay another hour we can get a naked twister game started". I tried to get the manager in my first manhattan club to allow one but it was always no. Too bad.
Here are some of the things I do. First of all when I'm not at work I read magazines, newspapers & listen to podcasts about things that wealthy men are interested in. Even if you don't have the time or money to travel, go to fancy restaurants & drink expensive wine you can read about it and say "oh I was just reading about vacationing in Mallorca. It sounds so fun, have you ever been there?" or "I just found out about this wonderful chef who's opening a new restaurant in town. What are some of your favorites?" if they're talking about the things they love & you're both fascinated by it and educated enough about it to have some input they'll want to keep hanging out. Most guys don't like to talk about work, but some do and either way you should know have some understanding of what they do so perusing the wall street journal, the Washington post, etc won't hurt.
I also memorize a lot of drinking toasts and jokes to tell. These are really good for when you have a whole group in VIP. At least learn how to say cheers in as many languages as possible. That can get the conversation started.
So I totally agree with spending a lot of time on the wine menu. You can talk about your favorites, which ones you'd like to try, tell a little story about visiting one of the wineries, mention an article you read about an auction for one of the wines on the menu...... and then choose one together. I don't like to dance until after the wine is served. The waitress doesn't want to walk in on that. When it's served do your special toasts or make a contest of who knows how to say cheers the most ways.....
before you know it half an hour has passed and you can start dancing. Do some dances and then sit down to drink a little more & talk a little more. I think the smartest thing a dancer can do is befriend the VIP waitresses and ask them to come in every half hour or so to check on your needs. They are almost always super fun and nice and they'll shoot the breeze with your customer, tell a few jokes, suggest a round of shots... then you start dancing again & the first hour is up so if he's having a good time he'll probably stay if you say something like things are just getting good & he needs more dancing before he leaves.
Within the last 15 minutes or so of the second hour I'll usually excuse myself to the restroom & ask the host to call up a friend of mine. If she sits and talks and laughs with us for 10 minutes or so and we're all having a great time we'll say he needs double trouble, the royal treatment & he should treat himself to a two girl show for another hour. The more the merrier, right? They almost always want to stay for that.
The key is to keep them entertained with something new every so often so they can't wait to see what's next. I knew a girl who could do card tricks, and others who had unlimited trivia knowledge about certain things so they could make a game of it.
Disclaimer: I work in a legal brothel (but I feel that the methods I use to get guys to extend VIP sessions could work for strippers, also)
If I'm doing a multi-hour session with a guy, I'm obviously not having sex the whole time. So.. how to fill the time in-between the intimate moments? Well, I will do massages, tell animated stories, play drinking games, keep on my feet and be laughing and moving around the room to keep the guy entertained. As far as conversation goes, I have always gone by this rule: to be interesting to others, just be interested in them. You can do this by asking them questions about themselves and creating a deep conversation that lets them feel connected to you and like they are getting to know you.
I love people, (though I do get jaded by some customers at times.. ) and I have always been a very enthusiastic and energetic person. I know (at least for myself this is true), that people will match your mood/energy level/attitude. If they are a little shy or bored, and I am the same, then we're both just shy in bored. But, if they're shy and bored, and I'm animated, lively, and silly, they they start to loosen up, also! It just takes that little extra effort to be excited and energetic, and the customer seems to adapt to that.
The times that I've got guys to extend a session, (the best has been for $xx,xxx) has always been when I've been in an energetic and excited mood. If you let the men know that: you are having the time of your life/never meet guys like them/this has been one of your favorite nights/etc.. then they are likely to match your enthusiasm level and the money should follow.
Also, if he doesn't look like he wants to extend the session with you alone, ask him if you can introduce him to one of your girlfriends. Grab a fun and charismatic girl and go back and suggest he stay longer with the two of you. I can't count how many times this has worked for me.
girlcakes
06-25-2013, 09:46 AM
I have one specific problem when extending VIPs..
In my city, there is no brothels.. And barely any prostitutes/escorts on the streets..
Anyways, whrn I do VIP sessions I get asked for sex like.... 70% of the time. And I always just say "Sorry no, I don't do that" but always try to be charming and with a big smile, and say we can have fun anyway, but I ALWAYS lose the customer after that..
Is there some magical line to reject sex but keep the customer to stay?! Or is it just as far as it will go, when they ask for sex? =/
Graci
01-03-2015, 06:36 PM
Bumping this thread. It's relevant to my interests.
The longest I've ever spent with a guy is three hours, and I usually end up doing one or two with most customers. We don't have couch dances at our club, only VIP, or they can book us for a private room with a spa bath.
I always seem to run out of energy by the end of the second hour. Maybe I need to take more or longer bathroom breaks? I don't know, every time I can feel my energy dropping, and they start asking if I'm having fun or whining about how I won't go home with them, or asking for extras.
CarlieStripsNaked
01-11-2015, 09:11 PM
My basic hustle in VIP:
More mileage makes more $
It's all about TnA and pussy!
The more I use him as a couch or chair the better ROI I get!
22lligm
01-12-2015, 03:30 PM
^ that sounds like selling extras or making him think you will do extras, which can only last so long
Graci
01-12-2015, 04:02 PM
I'm also doubtful I could make flashing my pussy and grinding interesting for an entire four hours. I don't know any guy who wants that.
CarlieStripsNaked
01-12-2015, 06:21 PM
It's all about presentation and communication. Create a fantasy and run with it...
MelissaRenee
01-12-2015, 10:14 PM
I work in a club that is only topless with pasties...and this is the club, surprisingly, where I've gotten the most repeat VIPs. The trick is to make him THINK he's going to get more the second time around without saying it or doing it. Even if you went up with a guy, gave him everything (all of the extras!) he still would probably not renew the time because he's already gotten what he wants so why would he spend more at that point? It's about the tease.
Luckily, my club offers champagne lounges...so getting "drunk" (that's drinking a little and making it seem like I'm a lightweight...by taking my glass to my lips or holding it then saying something and laughing instead of drinking will make it seem like I'm drinking more.) In the guys mind the drunker you are = the more likely you are to do something new, messed up, I know. But either way, you remain in control and basically don't do anything different lol. To be honest, just reminding them how much fun you're having with them, how glad you are to be spending time with them and having them all to yourself and how much you would love to spend the whole night together, telling him he's cute/handsome/funny/smart...it all goes a loooong way into getting more time. My club also doesn't make the guy buy a new bottle every CR they buy (if they choose to renew it) so it's an easy hustle to say "Awww...our time's up and we've still got half a bottle left! You're gonna stay and help me drink it right?" or something.
kaninchen
01-13-2015, 06:52 PM
To those of you who pretend to do coke to sell VIPs -- how do you work around the arrest potential here? I would be so worried about him being an undercover cop if a customer mentioned anything like this to me before giving me money!
This is actually really relevant to my hustle though because my club is strictly no alcohol (which obviously is a huge complaint amongst customers). I would love it if there were some way I could incorporate illicit drinking into my VIP hustle, of course with minimum risk though.
wednesday86
01-14-2015, 07:01 PM
Recently I extended from 15 minutes to a half hour by convincing this (young) guy that rubbing my back was turning me on and going to make me orgasm. Yep..nothing but back rubs and dirty talk and I think if he had more $ he would have easily done an hour or two. Haha
NightGoddess
06-23-2015, 07:06 PM
Anyone played Cards Against Humanity w a customer in VIP?
Selina M
06-24-2015, 04:39 PM
Anyone played Cards Against Humanity w a customer in VIP?
Oh man that would be so much fun, but you need at least 3 people to play I think.
SubSpace666
10-30-2015, 11:46 PM
BuMp! Really love these ideas! Anyone have more?!
I hadn't worked in a real club that sold VIP rooms consistently until I moved to Florida and worked at Scarlett's. I must admit that my longest room(s) were 3 hours straight with one guy, and then he ended up coming in again the next night to buy two more hours. Unfortunately, I got fired for giving him my phone number bc I brought another girl in the room with us that he had met before me, the same night we met, on the second night and she was a fucking snitch. She just wanted to eliminate me from the club bc she was pissed off that he was seeing me outside the club. Anyways, I still talk to him and he is actually in vegas to see me this week LOL all the way from Hawaii. So fuck that bitch! I think it really just works best when you have a good chemistry. I have never tried playing games in VIP before, but I just bought a pack of cards tonight so I can try this in Vegas CR's. Hopefully it works!
I've thought of using a vibrator over my panties while I sit on him or he watches, but so far I don't think that would be allowed at Scarlett's, but it worked at their sister club for me when I got the OKAY from a manager.
Other than that.... I agree with learning current affairs in the news and stuff they are interested in... The guy that bought a few hours from me those two times, him and I are closer in age and we are both hippies that hate the government, so we just discussed how fucked up the world is and how we would rule the world, what we would change, atc. But I kept it light with jokes and cuddling. Lots of cuddling.
sexsells
11-01-2015, 02:47 AM
BuMp! Really love these ideas! Anyone have more?!
I've thought of using a vibrator over my panties while I sit on him or he watches, but so far I don't think that would be allowed at Scarlett's, but it worked at their sister club for me when I got the OKAY from a manager.
Wait...what...?? You can use a vibrator at work and you're a stripper? I'm sorry but wtf?! and the manager okayed that?? wow... I thought vibrators et al were for private parties only... I guess not in some places!
tempest666
11-01-2015, 04:40 AM
Wait...what...?? You can use a vibrator at work and you're a stripper? I'm sorry but wtf?! and the manager okayed that?? wow... I thought vibrators et al were for private parties only... I guess not in some places!
Jeweled butt plugs are now de rigeur. Guess the other end needs to catch up. I'm a little old fashioned. I don't need to stick things in or near my orifices to make money. ::)
Peep shows and camming are one thing. Once you start inserting things at the club, be they organic or not, you're dealing with another entity.
arielbriel
11-02-2015, 12:40 PM
I always keep track of the time and when it's nearing the end, I amp up the sexiness. Instead of talking, I'll start dancing really sexy and I'll get into a hot position and be like "we can stay,right?". I make sure to talk him into it before our time is up so the next hour or half hour starts swiftly. Then, I start talking my head off again (asking leading questions that get him to talk about himself) , drink or order some more champagne, we both have a bathroom break, take him to smoke if he smokes, etc and when it starts getting to the end, that's when I start being super sexy again. :)
Ninelives
11-02-2015, 08:32 PM
I used to do many extended VIPs in Vegas ( Rhino) and I honestly think going right into the sexual aspect is a mistake. I always approached it as a date, the first hour was spent getting to know each other and getting our drinks no dancing till the last 15 minutes. Second hour get into his head, get deep; dreams, current love life whatever. dance 2 songs then talk two songs, while topless. Third hour is when you can talk about sexual fantasies etc or if he starts getting antsy start that the second half of the second hour. Best trick, in the second hour move to a different area of VIP, if you can ( a corner) and say "now we can be more private" he will sign up to stay longer. Another good tip, have the bouncer ask to extend time, guys don't want to look like they can't afford something in front of other guys.
PS; I was always the stripper version of "the girlfriend experience " I did the opposite of what I saw other girls doing ( ie getting super sexual) I wanted them to feel a spiritual connection because a sexual one they could have with anyone. This was very draining to me, but I was a top earner. I retired at 32, so about 2010, when we had 300 girls a night. This approach really works but you need to find the right guy and you need to use your social and psychological skills.
MissKelley
02-03-2018, 10:25 PM
Oh shit! How can you make sure your custie doesn't run out? You can't follow him to the bathroom or anything, do you just keep dancing to keep him in his seat or what?
lovelace
03-31-2018, 08:54 PM
bring your stripper bestie in!
MistyGirl
05-11-2018, 04:31 PM
I agree that it's better to not start things off on a 'too sexy' note and build towards it. I have a question though (or more that I need suggestions). When you start making things more sexy so that they are interested in extending the VIP, how to go from there? I find that it's hard to then slow things down to the previous level, without them thinking I'm only looking to extend and not 'enjoying' my time with them. What's the best way to proceed once you start making things more sexy towards the end?