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NinaDaisy
08-19-2007, 07:53 AM
I kinda feel ya, since I'm Latina and and often told I don't "look" it, so once in a while I've been around people who talk about "spics" and referring to any Latin person as a "Mexican". It's, uh...enlightening.
I've been to various parts of the country, and I've found the "N"word to be used among various demographics, everyone from your Deep South Bubbas to Gotti-kids wannabe Long Island Italians. But it's not something I hear that often regardless.
london
08-19-2007, 03:18 PM
I grew up in a fairly mixed suburb outside of Los Angeles and there was a fair amount of integration in middle school, and less so in high school but most of my closest friends in the later years were white (I'm black.) One of my white male hs friends went to the same university as me and thought it was okay to refer to young black kids as "nigglets" because it was just a joke. Fast forward a year or two later and Im back in my hometown visiting old friends and a guy I';ve known since 5th grade decides in a drunken stupor to spout every racist black joke he;d ever heard with me less than 2 feet away. Even after several friends of ours told him he was being inappropriate and what the hell was his problem, he continued....So, um, yeaahh...might I add that I had known all these hs friends for many years, had never seen anything like this be uttered (I guess it wouldnt be expected in my presence, at least!) and was usually one of at the most 3 black people ever 'in' the group. I was the lone black person at this party and luckily a few of my other friends all tried to get him to shut the hell up but it was too late....
ahmeerah
08-19-2007, 03:41 PM
I despise racism. I don't understand it. And I hate when I hear anyone of any race saying the N word. It's an ugly word. I've never used N-er or N-a. What's the point?
I'm black but grew up "white."
The N word is a word that I have never used. I think it's ok for black people to use it if they want to but not for white people because coming from a white person it seems derogatory.
I hate racism. I hate it when the occasional customer says something awful about one of the other dancers because of her race, it's just wrong.
greenidlady1
08-19-2007, 03:55 PM
No, it's not common. Unfornuately, in the town I am from there are quite a few rednecks. If I am in conversation with one them I am quick to correct them when they say the N word. I typically try to stay away from people of this nature.
Optimist
08-19-2007, 04:13 PM
However. When I started dancing in working class/blue-collar bars, in New England and Alaska, I started to hear all kinds of blatantly racist shit spewing from the mouths of people I had thought were okay up until the moment that ugliness crossed their lips. I was horrified--It made me feel sort of tainted for having liked someone who could think it was even remotely okay to say such things. To be honest, it made me kind of wary of white folks in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That's the reason the Black people clump together. It may seem counterintuitive but when you're at a party you'll meet closet racists that spring their abusive demeanors and attitudes on your non-white guests. And sometimes we just want to have a good time after work and not open ourselves to attack. White people who are racist will show you a different face than they'd show us. Just like men who are sexist show their male friends a very different face than the women they date. Why complain? The others won't believe you--they'll think you're playing a card and being hypersensitive or even being racist yourself.
Optimist
08-19-2007, 04:38 PM
What I find interesting, ironic, and tragic, as a fellow midwestener, is that few of these people would actually admit, to a black person, one on one, that they are racist. They would claim that racism magically died 40 years ago and then proceed to make ridiculous statements like blacks are actually perpatrating racism by bringing it up and the biggest problem is black on white racism.
That's it in a nutshell. You can't solve a problem you won't acknowledge. A midwestern coworker (white) said as much to me so I wouldn't be continually bewildered by seemingly nice Midwesterners who'd sooner have a white crackhead dance for them than me.
Nicolina
08-19-2007, 05:01 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That's the reason the Black people clump together. It may seem counterintuitive but when you're at a party you'll meet closet racists that spring their abusive demeanors and attitudes on your non-white guests. And sometimes we just want to have a good time after work and not open ourselves to attack. White people who are racist will show you a different face than they'd show us. Just like men who are sexist show their male friends a very different face than the women they date. Why complain? The others won't believe you--they'll think you're playing a card and being hypersensitive or even being racist yourself.
Thanks for the response. I totally understand about the closet (and not-so-closet) racists, and the desire to protect yourself. And I absolutely believe that it happens way more often than most white people believe.
I came to feel the sort of the same way: I didn't want to get too close to white people before I knew what their attitudes on race were. Because it was painful to like someone and then learn something about them that was basically a dealbreaker as far as a close friendship was concerned.
Which is not to say that I am holier-than-thou. We all want to think that we don't have a racist bone in our bodies. But growing up in the U.S., you really can't avoid having certain racist notions pounded into your psyche, whether you like it or not.
At the risk of upsetting people, I'll give you an example of my own unconscious, unbidden racism:
I'm shopping at a Ralph's in a fancy, rich neighborhood that is predominantly white and Asian. I see a very tall black man, dressed casually, shopping with his two young daughters. The first thought that pops into my mind, completely unbidden, just kind of automatically, is: "Basketball player."
That's fucked up. But apparently, the message I've gotten from this culture (despite my conscious knowledge to the contrary!!!) is that a tall black man living in an upscale mostly-white neighborhood must have gotten rich through athletics--like, a tall black man couldn't possibly have gotten rich being, say, a lawyer, doctor, chemical engineer, CEO, or other accomplished white-collar professional.
I'm ashamed of this, of course. But I think that the most important way to fight racism is to recognize this kind of unconscious, "soft" racism in ourselves, and acknowledge it and confront it consciously, without getting defensive about it.
I'm a little scared to post this, but I think I will.
scarlett_vancouver
08-19-2007, 05:11 PM
I don't hear conversations about the "N" word very often, and never in my circle of friends they know I would never tolorate it. Most of them know that my mother was raped and murdered by 8 black men and most cannot figure out why I am not racist. I feel like it was not the color of their skin, but the type of person they were.
If it had been 8 white men would I have hated all whites? NO, So why judge a whole race on 8 people. My aunt is married to a person of color and I am one of the few that actually except him, he expected less. Meh...
Holy shit. I'm sorry.
In situations like the above, it's very easy for a person to assign blame to something abstract like race...scapegoating- you know, you need a 'reason' that it happened, some sort of logic, but there isn't any, so you blame the obvious distinguishing factor.
Kudos to you for being wiser and more mature than most people.
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It seems apparent that a lot of it has to do with what people feel threatened by...like I mentioned, it seems like there is relatively little (overt) racism against black people in my area of the world, but that's probably because people of African or Carribean descent don't seem to move here for some reaosn. But between whites and asians..hoo boy. People I think don't even notice they're doing it. I often think it's not rooted in hatred so much as in ignorance.
madmaxine
08-19-2007, 05:17 PM
At the risk of upsetting people, I'll give you an example of my own unconscious, unbidden racism:
I'm shopping at a Ralph's in a fancy, rich neighborhood that is predominantly white and Asian. I see a very tall black man, dressed casually, shopping with his two young daughters. The first thought that pops into my mind, completely unbidden, just kind of automatically, is: "Basketball player."
That's fucked up. But apparently, the message I've gotten from this culture (despite my conscious knowledge to the contrary!!!) is that a tall black man living in an upscale mostly-white neighborhood must have gotten rich through athletics--like, a tall black man couldn't possibly have gotten rich being, say, a lawyer, doctor, chemical engineer, CEO, or other accomplished white-collar professional.
I'm ashamed of this, of course. But I think that the most important way to fight racism is to recognize this kind of unconscious, "soft" racism in ourselves, and acknowledge it and confront it consciously, without getting defensive about it.
I'm a little scared to post this, but I think I will.
Don't beat yourself up. I had a similar incident in which I second-guessed my 1st impression by inwardly telling myself, That's bigoted! But later my 1st impression was corroborated by people who knew for sure what was true. (It pertains to the owners of a particular strip club in the Pacific Northwest & that's all I want to say...)
Many of us make non-malicious assumptions to get through the day. The sign of a good person is someone who stops and thinks after they have a mental check of an automatic thought.
Back to the OP topic, well, I used to feel hurt and offended by racism but now I look at real racists with contempt & almost pity, like , Wow, you're pathetic. You're going to get left behind. The world is moving forward quicker and quicker...Someone who doesn't want to assimilate cultural changes is going to miss out.
scarlett_vancouver
08-19-2007, 05:20 PM
I'm shopping at a Ralph's in a fancy, rich neighborhood that is predominantly white and Asian. I see a very tall black man, dressed casually, shopping with his two young daughters. The first thought that pops into my mind, completely unbidden, just kind of automatically, is: "Basketball player."
That's fucked up. But apparently, the message I've gotten from this culture (despite my conscious knowledge to the contrary!!!) is that a tall black man living in an upscale mostly-white neighborhood must have gotten rich through athletics--like, a tall black man couldn't possibly have gotten rich being, say, a lawyer, doctor, chemical engineer, CEO, or other accomplished white-collar professional.
I'm ashamed of this, of course. But I think that the most important way to fight racism is to recognize this kind of unconscious, "soft" racism in ourselves, and acknowledge it and confront it consciously, without getting defensive about it.
I'm a little scared to post this, but I think I will.
I think there's a lot to be said for being as honest as you're being.
Nobody escapes racism, mainly because its not a hard line that one crosses, but a gradient.
Imo.
My friends and I have talks...you know how dependign on your area, there's often one race that the majority of girls dont want to dance for, for whatever reason? Well, of course that's friggin racist and ignorant. In my area, it's Sikh men. You see a turban, you know that guy is going to have trouble getting dances. Beign a money-whore who really really tries hard not to be racist, I always approach. 9/10 times, I have problems during the dance. Its a pattern, and I know it will likely happen, but I can't avoid everyone in a turban- I'd feel like an awful racist. But, I'm still extra careful with these men. That's one of my little bits of racism, but you know, I don't know how else I could react, or what else I could do. So.
Nicolina
08-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Don't beat yourself up. I had a similar incident in which I second-guessed my 1st impression by inwardly telling myself, That's bigoted! But later my 1st impression was corroborated by people who knew for sure what was true. (It pertains to the owners of a particular strip club in the Pacific Northwest & that's all I want to say...)
Nah, it's not that I'm beating myself up. It's just that I think it's important to be aware of it. I mean, maybe the guy really is a pro basketball player; he is about 7 feet tall. And our culture being as racist as it is, it probably is more difficult for a black man to become super-successful in corporate America than in professional sports. But that's not really the point.
The point is, like you said, to check yourself. Don't be afraid to acknowledge and confront your own racism.
And these cultural messages are beaten into all of us, not just white folks. That's why there's such a huge difference between institutionalized white-on-black racism and other forms of prejudice.
Farrah_Holiday
08-19-2007, 07:20 PM
I don't think you can ever know what someone's racial views are until they decide to show you. My older sister married a white guy from Grand Rapids..He has many friends of many different races. That didn't keep him from calling my sis a nigger, he called my mom a wetback chink ( she's Cuban, Hungarian & Chinese), he even went so far as to tell their infant son that his mother is a nigger ! I thought the shit was stupid because his son is part nigger, wet back, chink..But he's ignorant and using hurtful words. ( Wanted to add she ended up divorcing him )
Also, I don't subscribe to the socio-economic argument
...Some of the customers I mentioned in my earlier post were extremely well off. One worked for a major
investment company but, that didn't keep him from telling me how he was related to Robert E. Lee & other nonsense. I also wanted to add that after I told him about my racial background he apologized for his comments. He became a very good regular of mine.
I prefer to know the way people feel about race, that way I know what to expect and can prepare myself for it. That's one thing I liked about living in the South, it was right out there in the open..Here is Northern CA we are so blended, that its almost shocking when someone says an off the wall remark.. But the fact of the matter is there is just as much racism here as there is anywhere !
Racism is a part of life, as sad part but, still apart.
SportsWriter2
08-19-2007, 07:21 PM
I'm shopping at a Ralph's in a fancy, rich neighborhood that is predominantly white and Asian. I see a very tall black man, dressed casually, shopping with his two young daughters. The first thought that pops into my mind, completely unbidden, just kind of automatically, is: "Basketball player."
That's fucked up.
You think? If I saw a very tall white man in the same place, I'd think "Basketball player." Professional/executive impact peaks at 6'1" and falls off on either side of that height. So basketball would be my first guess.
I've been called out by black guys as "Yo Niggah" in a club. They liked what I was doing with a white dancer. You have to consider context, tone and intent.
Nicolina
08-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Also, I don't subscribe to the socio-economic argument
...Some of the customers I mentioned in my earlier post were extremely well off. One worked for a major
investment company but, that didn't keep him from telling me how he was related to Robert E. Lee & other nonsense.
oh, i think middle- and upper-class white people are no less racist than anyone else overall, they just tend to be sneakier about it, less likely to use overtly racist language like that referred to in the OP...
Nicolina
08-19-2007, 07:29 PM
You think? If I saw a very tall white man in the same place, I'd think "Basketball player." Professional/executive impact peaks at 6'1" and falls off on either side of that height. So basketball would be my first guess.
i dunno. when I see a freakishly tall white guy in a grocery store, my first thought is usually "stockboy." :-\
ahmeerah
08-19-2007, 08:03 PM
Farrah,
What's a "wet back"?
Farrah_Holiday
08-19-2007, 08:14 PM
Farrah,
What's a "wet back"?
It refers to an undocumented Mexican.
Like ND said in her post some people group all Latinos/Hispanics together and refer to them as Mexicans. That's what my ex-brother-in-law was basically doing.
Farrah_Holiday
08-19-2007, 08:16 PM
oh, i think middle- and upper-class white people are no less racist than anyone else overall, they just tend to be sneakier about it, less likely to use overtly racist language like that referred to in the OP...
Exactly ! I can agree w/ you on that.
JustJayda
08-19-2007, 08:20 PM
You think? If I saw a very tall white man in the same place, I'd think "Basketball player." Professional/executive impact peaks at 6'1" and falls off on either side of that height. So basketball would be my first guess.
I've been called out by black guys as "Yo Niggah" in a club. They liked what I was doing with a white dancer. You have to consider context, tone and intent.
I'd love to know the context of that comment. I can't imagine why a group of black guys would have "called out" anyone White (correct?) with that phrase in a strip club because of something you were doing with a dancer....
Are you sure they were talking to you, and not about you?:-\
Cyndi08
08-19-2007, 08:22 PM
I. Hate. Racism.
No, not everyone is like that. It comes with "fear and lack of education" syndrome.
BlackSheEp3
08-19-2007, 09:24 PM
As some of you may already know:
Nigger = racial slur
Nigga = friend
As for the white people tossing around the word nigger...now thats just racist.
Lysondra
08-19-2007, 10:07 PM
So a white person can say Nigga now but not Nigger....? I am so confused.
How about I just don't say either?
BlackSheEp3
08-19-2007, 10:28 PM
So a white person can say Nigga now but not Nigger....? I am so confused.
How about I just don't say either?
Nigger = In my opinion only black people can use this word with the exception if your cool enough with your African American friends to toss it around freely. Nigger is the "bad word" though.....
Nigga = from one black man to another meaning to say; homie, brotha, etc
*although ive known non black people to use this version with no problem cause they are good friends with the other party.
But best rule of thumb if your not black...just dont use either.
aviendha
08-19-2007, 10:32 PM
I despise the word and people who use it. I can remember a moment back in HS when I said something without thinking that was pretty racist and ever since then, I think, "OMG. How could I say that?" since I grew up in a progressive family who looked down on racism. And I admit, sometimes I catch myself passing some guy on the street and thinking, "Hmm, gangbanger?" or something along those lines, but I try to examine my own thoughts when it happens and note that it doesn't make sense or isn't justified, and at least make my actions better than my thoughts, if that makes sense (and not in a fake, overcompensating way).
Heh. I remember passing a black guy sitting in a parked car in a grocery store who looked like he erred on the gangbanger side of the spectrum. When I came out about 20 minutes later, he was still there, and I asked him if he needed help--it was a pretty hot day to be sitting in a parked car for that long so I wondered if he might have had car trouble. He replied that he was waiting for someone, in the most beautiful Senegalese accent I have ever heard in my life, it was like music listening to him talk. Damn! I'm gonna start asking people if they have car trouble more often!
I think that word is used commonly among certain groups of people.
I personally do not hear that word very often at all, but I choose to not associate with people who would use thoes kinds of words.
I have to second that. The people that I hear say it in the club, and there have been a small number, have almost completely been the lower class idiots from bfe with no social skills and very little education what-so-ever... in otehr words, guys with hardly any money and no conversation skills, only good for extreamly slow days when there are like 4 other people in the club.
LoveComesFromWithin
01-05-2008, 04:22 AM
when i hang out with my white friends, they always seem to catch themselves saying the word. even if its real small.. like my friend said i hate when i nigger-lip when i smoke? i was like wtf? he was so embaressed and red and told me what he meant by that.
Budai
01-05-2008, 10:02 AM
... like my friend said i hate when i nigger-lip when i smoke? i was like wtf? he was so embaressed and red and told me what he meant by that.
Love CFW:
IMO, with the current popularity of lip augmentations/implants, that tired term should be updated for 21st Century vocabularies.
These days, "collagen-lip" seems more appropriate...:)
SundayMorning
01-05-2008, 10:09 AM
I'd never heard that before and I'd be offended too even though I'm hardly PC. We always refer to it as DSL.
Budai
01-05-2008, 10:15 AM
I'd never heard that before and I'd be offended too even though I'm hardly PC. We always refer to it as DSL.
SM:
I'm probably dating myself (without lotion), but I remember "n-lip" from pot smoking circles of the 1970's...
Dumb Q: WTF is "DSL"?
virgoamm
01-05-2008, 10:31 AM
Okay, my pervy side is coming out here. Dick sucking lips?
SundayMorning
01-05-2008, 10:38 AM
^Bingo bingo!
lgrant98001
01-05-2008, 10:53 AM
When I lived in Pontiac, Michigan (an auto town near Detroit) in the '70's and '80's, a lot of people used the N-word aggressively. By that I mean someone would be loudly using it in a discussion in a restaurant, and all the other tables would stop and look at the guy. And he would look back at them and say "That's right...that's what I said." I hope it's gotten better, but I escaped from the Detroit area 25 years ago, so I'm not sure.
I don't hear it from a lot of white folks these days, but I still hear racism. My girlfriend is Black, though a lot of people think she is Mexican. We were in a cab in St. Louis, and the White driver was telling us about the subdivision he lives in, and how great it is because they don't have any Blacks there. My girlfriend was really tempted to get ghetto on him and see what his reaction would be, but she behaved and kept quite. Very weird, though.
But what is truly scary is this. We have a Black friend from NYC who is a middle-Eastern dance instructor, and from time to time he visits Egypt. Apparently the kids there have started listening to American gangsta rap. Now, Egyptian pop music tends to be very silly and romantic bubble-gum sort of stuff. For example, my gf dances to one whose title translates into "I like girls." And the lyrics are mostly variations on how he really likes girls. And in these songs, they are always referring to their friends or loved ones as habibi (female) or habib (male).
So, they start listening to our gangsta rap, and they don't speak English, but they hear the rappers referring to people with these words, ho, bitch, nigga, and they figure that must be how Americans say habibi. So our friend says he has Egyptian kids walking up to him and saying 'Hi, bitch!" or "Hi, nigga!".
It is truly frightening that that is what we are exporting to the rest of the world.
Lynn
snoopy
01-05-2008, 11:25 AM
So our friend says he has Egyptian kids walking up to him and saying 'Hi, bitch!" or "Hi, nigga!".
It is truly frightening that that is what we are exporting to the rest of the world. agreed, it really skews others' opinion of our society and what they 'expect' to see/hear.
a great comedic example i always think of for this situation is in one of the Rush Hour movies with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker, where chan horrificly uses the "n-word" :O after watching some black people interact in a bar and gets into ahuge fight, of course. he mistakenly thinks it's a totally acceptable word to banter about because it was used by others and simply thinks of himself a fellow man vs. someone of another color/race among them. wrongo! ;D
but there are really people (a lot of them!) that really think that is acceptable because of what we "export" out of our own society just like lynn noted. so i see the arguement to not even use (or think/believe/whatever) the word at all, even by blacks themselves.
ahmeerah
01-05-2008, 11:25 AM
^^Lynn, yeah it is unsettling to a certain degree. But, they don't know any better until educated on what the terms really mean.
On another note: After seeing the pic of AussiePShocker recently, I decided that the people who couldn't see that she's a black woman are idiots.
Why do people think that black people of the lighter variety aren't Black? It's so odd to me. I'm accused of not being "black" too and it makes no sense to me. Both of my parents are black.
lgrant98001
01-05-2008, 12:15 PM
On another note: After seeing the pic of AussiePShocker recently, I decided that the people who couldn't see that she's a black woman are idiots.
(Raises hand...and dons his dunce cap...)
Actually, it never occurred to me that AussiePShocker is Black. I just looked at her picture and said, "Now there's a *fine* lookin' woman!". I don't seem to pick up on the visual cues with very-light-skinned Blacks. One of our bellydance instructors has very light skin, and I never realized she was Black until I got to know her.
Our hairdresser is Black, and my girlfriend was telling me that she said she was having trouble getting dates from Black men, because her skin is so dark. (The whole color-struck thing.) I said, "Oh, is she dark? She's really cute, but I never noticed she was dark." I looked next time I saw her, and she really is, but it didn't register at first.
I am much more likely to pick up on "sistah attitude". (That's why I think Condoleezza Rice isn't really Black, but I won't go there right now.) And, of course, a lot of Black women suppress that a bit, unless they are in friendly surroundings.
lynn
lgrant98001
01-05-2008, 12:23 PM
^^Lynn, yeah it is unsettling to a certain degree. But, they don't know any better until educated on what the terms really mean.
That's the most unsettling part--who's gonna educate them? All the education they are getting about the words is from listening to the songs.
My gf and I are involved in an online virtual chat system (IMVU) and we were talking to a woman from Spain, and having a hard time deciphering her messages. There are a lot of gangsta folks on IMVU, and come to find out that she has been learning English by corresponding with them. So she speaks Spanish and Gangsta.
Lynn
TigersMilk
01-05-2008, 12:25 PM
And, of course, a lot of Black women suppress that a bit, unless they are in friendly surroundings.
^^No we don't suppress the "sistah attitude". I'm just me and I have nothing to suppress.
I was out of town when the thread was made. Didn't even notice the thread until now.
People of any race who talk about any other race negatively addressing them in a conversation about them are just ignorant and classless.
ahmeerah
01-05-2008, 12:29 PM
[quote=lgrant98001;1352828I am much more likely to pick up on "sistah attitude". (That's why I think Condoleezza Rice isn't really Black, but I won't go there right now.) And, of course, a lot of Black women suppress that a bit, unless they are in friendly surroundings. lynn[/quote]
I hate when people think this. I know a lot of people who pretend they have the "sistah attitude" at times but you'd find that a lot of us don't have it. I don't.
Condoleeza Rice is quite black.
lgrant98001
01-05-2008, 12:34 PM
I hate when people think this. I know a lot of people who pretend they have the "sistah attitude" at times but you'd find that a lot of us don't have it. I don't.
Condoleeza Rice is quite black.
Don't take me too seriously when I say that. I was letting my disagreement with her politics show. My apologies.
Lynn
ahmeerah
01-05-2008, 12:53 PM
^^^ Yeah, I figured. :-)
No, I certainly don't think it's normal conversation for white people. But normal conversation for very ignorant people.
It would not be a "normal" part of conversation in any group I would be associated with.
crizgolfer
01-05-2008, 02:05 PM
I am a white guy that strangely enough hangs out with a lot of white people. I cannot recall the last time I heard the N-word in a conversation. I kind of figure it is a dying word. Or maybe it is just the people I know.
As far as being aware that AussiePShocker is black, well, I guess I never cared. Regardless of what color she is...she is a hot woman! ;)
I hate when people think this. I know a lot of people who pretend they have the "sistah attitude" at times but you'd find that a lot of us don't have it. I don't.
Condoleeza Rice is quite black.
And I thought she was Jewish ::)
AudreyLeigh
01-05-2008, 02:28 PM
I didnt read this WHOLE thread but I will say:
Where I used to live - it was a common word because it was a very low class white area. There were many racists there. And Im talking - Ill bring in another stereotype - total white trash, trailer with swasticas tattooed on their necks. And those that werent racist used the word to be "cool" around the other people.
I remember going to the river and never going back to that spot. Its where all the trash hung out. It was soo gross and I remember thinking to myself - and youre better than (some of my black friends) why? Youre totally nasty. Youre total trash. Im sure you can all picture the people Im talking about.
Its always annoyed me because I grew up in an area that was very racially diverse and had friends of all colors. When I did move to that area I was in shock for a long time.
But I will be honest and say after a while it didnt bother me. Its not a word I use but I heard it sooo much it was almost like someone saying the word "phone". Im so glad to be in a nice area now.
AudreyLeigh
01-05-2008, 02:30 PM
I am a white guy that strangely enough hangs out with a lot of white people. I cannot recall the last time I heard the N-word in a conversation. I kind of figure it is a dying word. Or maybe it is just the people I know.
It is most likely the company you keep. My old company used the word a LOT. My new company - damn, I dont think Ive heard that word in 2-3 years.
LoveComesFromWithin
01-06-2008, 04:18 AM
Love CFW:
IMO, with the current popularity of lip augmentations/implants, that tired term should be updated for 21st Century vocabularies.
These days, "collagen-lip" seems more appropriate...:)
he told me it meant when u lick your lips before you stick something in your mouth.
Budai
01-06-2008, 06:29 AM
he told me it meant when u lick your lips before you stick something in your mouth.
Okey dokey, then...
I like "Lewinsky-lip", personally...;)
Casual Observer
01-06-2008, 07:09 AM
I am much more likely to pick up on "sistah attitude". (That's why I think Condoleezza Rice isn't really Black, but I won't go there right now.)
So she's an Uncle Tom nigger because she doesn't toe the political line of the mystical Great Black Monolith? Because she wouldn't sit on the same side of the table as Jackson/Sharpton/Mfume?
That's flat-out racist, and not uncommonly so either.
when i hang out with my white friends, they always seem to catch themselves saying the word. even if its real small.. like my friend said i hate when i nigger-lip when i smoke? i was like wtf? he was so embaressed and red and told me what he meant by that.
You got some strange friends. :O
MixedBabe88
01-06-2008, 09:12 AM
So she's an Uncle Tom nigger because she doesn't toe the political line of the mystical Great Black Monolith? Because she wouldn't sit on the same side of the table as Jackson/Sharpton/Mfume?
That's flat-out racist, and not uncommonly so either.
You said that so well.
Anyways, I'm going to have to put this out there.
White guys: Dating a black woman does not make you a know it all about how black women work. Thank you. If my white boyfriends had said some shit to me about how they know how black women work, I'd probably have slapped them. That being said, I'd have done the same thing to a black guy. GUYS DO NOT KNOW HOW WOMEN WORK, period. :D