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Jenny
09-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Lap - of course there is that point as well, that some guys actively don't want to get off in strip clubs for various reasons of their own, and it has nothing to do with "settling" in any sense. Hence I choose not to assume that every customer wants as much mileage as possible (would you believe me if I told you that I started every dance by saying "Now you can tell me if I do anything that makes you uncomfortable"?


a customer might say,"hey, this bill of goods you're trying to sell me is totally unacceptable", but not in a sc. look around, this MB is filled with threads of PLs shooting themselves in the foot over and over again.I don't think you're being very clear. What constitutes either a bad "level" of service or "bad quality" service, completely divorced from mileage? I mean this conversation ALWAYS takes place in the context of mileage - we have no other frame of reference. And I have difficulty believing that you mean "she didn't say thank you after I handed her the money,and that is just rude! I will not be patronizing little miss rudeypants's lapdancing services again, thank you! I feel really sorry for all those guys who just tolerate behaviour like that." If that is what you meant - gosh, how unexpected of you.


frankly, i don't care what you do. (1) you're not a customer. (2) you haven't done anything for me. (3) there are plenty other strippers that will blow their customers.
Well. It was an example. But. 1) Yes I am. 2) How can you say that after all we've been through together? 3) It was an example of how mileage doesn't equal service and how, for that matter, "level of service" is a bit of a misnomer and "quality of service" is quite misleading. Example. As in "I.e.". Providing an illustration based on real life that anyone can easily relate to and understand even if she or he hasn't experienced it herself (or himself. Whatever).


just because you don't say, "and the next dance will be better than the last", doesn't mean i should believe the next stripper who tells me that.
No. But it does mean (as I think my point was then) that I can be held to my own standards of professionalism and courtesy and not those of some random, bottom feeding skank in the Southern U.S. that you are desperate to model all of us on because you desperately need to dehumanize your partner in order to maintain an erection. And anyway - it was an example. Meant to illustrate that mileage doesn't equal good service (and vice versa).

mr_punk
09-03-2007, 05:36 AM
Lap - of course there is that point as well, that some guys actively don't want to get off in strip clubs for various reasons of their own, and it has nothing to do with "settling" in any sense.oh, but that's not i mean by settling. for instance, take slims099 post when he's bitching about his ATF. does he tell her to STFU? no. does he seek out another girl rather than put up with behavior that's obviously upsetting him? no. instead, he complains on a MB, gets a social arm twisting by jenny and continues to give this stripper money with a bitter taste in his mouth. but hey, that's the average sc customer for you.

I don't think you're being very clear. What constitutes either a bad "level" of service or "bad quality" service, completely divorced from mileage?i just did in the example above. furthermore, i never made a distinction about the level or kind of service being good or bad. nice try though, but i think i'll leave that to you ladies can and you claw each other eyeballs out over the issue.

Well. It was an example. But. 1) Yes I am. 2) How can you say that after all we've been through together? 3) It was an example of how mileage doesn't equal service and how, for that matter, "level of service" is a bit of a misnomer and "quality of service" is quite misleading. Example. As in "I.e.". Providing an illustration based on real life that anyone can easily relate to and understand even if she or he hasn't experienced it herself (or himself. Whatever).no, you're not a customer. you're a just stripper professing to be something other than an organ grinder's monkey performing cute little tricks for $20. now, give me a smile, baby. BTW, your example sucks. hypothetically, what if you could get oral sex with your pancakes? well, that's just a restaurant thinly disguised as whorehouse. IOW, i may not be able to grab tits in every sc, but i can find a sc where i'm able to, officially or unofficially, grab tits or anything else i want.

No. But it does mean (as I think my point was then) that I can be held to my own standards of professionalism and courtesy and not those of some random, bottom feeding skank in the Southern U.S. that you are desperate to model all of us on because you desperately need to dehumanize your partner in order to maintain an erection. And anyway - it was an example. Meant to illustrate that mileage doesn't equal good service (and vice versa).LOL..oh, that's my little rabid pitbull. when all else fails. she drops the girl scout act, throws a hissy fit and ridicules my 3 incher with the hair trigger. seriously, what part of the phrase,"i don't care what you do", don't you understand? you are entitled to your own standards, but i'm don't have to be beholden to yours and vice versa. we're all free agents out here. yes, i do objectify strippers, but you seem to have no problem being objectified. after all, that is the whole point of you tarting yourself up in those ridiculous costumes like a clown and acting hyperfeminized like an actress in a bad porn movie, etc. fortunately or unfortunately, it's just a blatant truth of the biz and it's exactly the way things should be.

xdamage
09-03-2007, 07:54 AM
...furthermore, i never made a distinction about the level or kind of service being good or bad. ...


I'm 99% sure that Mr. P's is not saying "low contact" is equal to "bad service". mdiver might have implied that, but if you had read everything you'd see where mr. p said no, that's not relevant.

What he is saying is that customers will continue to do business with a dancer, even if he is not satisfied, or even if he wants to do business with others, and fret and moan about it LONG after he would have moved on and found a new sales person or contractor or whatever in other businesses.

As an aside, customers do in fact do just that, and dancers encourage the delusional behavior and thinking because it's what keeps the money flowing, but objectively it's plain out dumb. The customer is paying. If the customer is not happy with the quality (or level) of service, or simply wants to indulge in other dancer's services, just do it. It's really amazingly silly that customers fret and worry over doing so as if he and the dancer really do have a special/meaningful relationship, or as if he owes her something. He owes her $20 a dance. Beyond that he has no obligation to continue doing business with, or only doing business with her.

Jenny
09-03-2007, 08:37 AM
oh, but that's not i mean by settling. for instance, take slims099 post when he's bitching about his ATF. does he tell her to STFU? no. does he seek out another girl rather than put up with behavior that's obviously upsetting him? no. instead, he complains on a MB, gets a social arm twisting by jenny and continues to give this stripper money with a bitter taste in his mouth. but hey, that's the average sc customer for you.
Buh? If I remember correctly Jenny said that there are reasons the dancer might think he likes it, and that he should just tell her that he doesn't and ask her (nicely) to stop in order to fully enjoy his dances. This is what you call social arm twisting? Please. You're just mad because I'm sitting here reminding you that strippers have heads.


i just did in the example above. furthermore, i never made a distinction about the level or kind of service being good or bad. nice try though, but i think i'll leave that to you ladies can and you claw each other eyeballs out over the issue.
Yes, I'm sure you have mud or jello in those imaginary clawings as well. Baby - you are 10 times the catty bitch of any stripper here.


no, you're not a customer. you're a just stripper professing to be something other than an organ grinder's monkey performing cute little tricks for $20. now, give me a smile, baby.
Give me $20 first.

And you can't just declare that I'm not a customer. I go out. I spend money on strippers. Probably more often than some guys here. What's the problem?



BTW, your example sucks. hypothetically, what if you could get oral sex with your pancakes? well, that's just a restaurant thinly disguised as whorehouse. IOW, i may not be able to grab tits in every sc, but i can find a sc where i'm able to, officially or unofficially, grab tits or anything else i want.
No my example still stands. I still like my cute waiter. And I like my restaurant which is not thinly disguised as a whorehouse.


LOL..oh, that's my little rabid pitbull. when all else fails. she drops the girl scout act, throws a hissy fit and ridicules my 3 incher with the hair trigger.
Oh. Right. Because you've always maintained a respectful intellectual distance in your posts. Tell me part about "biatches" and "organ grinder's monkeys" again? I'm sorry. Clearly my mockery of your sexual dysfunction has brought this conversation down in a way that you would engage in. I'm ashamed.


seriously, what part of the phrase,"i don't care what you do", don't you understand?
Huh? Dude. Earth. Revolving. Me. Where are you confused?
Seriously - what part of "it was an example" don't you understand?


you are entitled to your own standards, but i'm don't have to be beholden to yours and vice versa. we're all free agents out here.
Uh huh. However you are not entitled (as a free agent) to argue that I should be treated in a particular way because you really, really want to model all strippers after some meth addicted in a club thinly designed as a whorehouse. In my post I said that I was honest with customers, and I felt entitled (yes! Entitled! The feminist feels entitled!) to honesty in return (that is - I don't jerk you around on what will go on in the VIP. Don't jerk me around on whether or not you (not you actually, the general you) will dances). Your response seems to indicate that I'm not because the women you frequent are not. Like you said - free agents.


yes, i do objectify strippers, but you seem to have no problem being objectified. after all, that is the whole point of you tarting yourself up in those ridiculous costumes like a clown and acting hyperfeminized like an actress in a bad porn movie, etc. fortunately or unfortunately, it's just a blatant truth of the biz and it's exactly the way things should be.
Yes. See, now I'm even more ashamed that I lowered the conversation by making fun of you. Seeing as you would never engage in such undignified behaviour. Gosh. It's sad being me. Anyway, moving on. You don't seem to have a good grasp on what "objectify" means, and you are completely unwilling to learn (because you need it to maintain an erection and all - oops, I did it again. Dammit) so I won't get into it.

So, really, sum total of what you are saying, without all the nasty language, is that a customer should spend his money on what he (or she) wants? Well, no wonder you have to use all sorts of pejorative language. Who would bother arguing with you over that? I mean, when I first read this thread I was like "you need advice on whether or not you want to frequent a different dancer? Okay..." Fortunately you were here to lade it up with some nasty language and to make it sound like you were deriding all people who don't seek out the same kind of thing that you do in order to stir up some action, and then back away immediately with your hands up saying "What? I didn't say anything" when anyone noticed. Dude. You should SO be a stripper. You are like a champion of dressing room drama.

mr_punk
09-03-2007, 11:36 AM
As an aside, customers do in fact do just that, and dancers encourage the delusional behavior and thinking because it's what keeps the money flowing, but objectively it's plain out dumb. The customer is paying. If the customer is not happy with the quality (or level) of service, or simply wants to indulge in other dancer's services, just do it. It's really amazingly silly that customers fret and worry over doing so as if he and the dancer really do have a special/meaningful relationship, or as if he owes her something. He owes her $20 a dance. Beyond that he has no obligation to continue doing business with, or only doing business with her.i like strippers just fine, but let's not be confused. the reality of the situation is that my liking a stripper is incidental to certain conditions of mine that must be satisfied. thus, just because i spend a lot of money on a girl, gotten nasty with her or see her on a regular basis, doesn't mean she can assume it's any kind of commitment on my part. yeah, some strippers may not like it, but get over it. frankly, when either party starts acting in the manner described. watch out! grab a bag of popcorn and watch the fireworks begin.

mr_punk
09-03-2007, 11:44 AM
You don't seem to have a good grasp on what "objectify" means, and you are completely unwilling to learn (because you need it to maintain an erection and all - oops, I did it again. Dammit) so I won't get into it.uhh...patrichary. ironically, i'm disappointed you're not bringing up the subject once again. i find your lectures of feminist dogma quite narcoleptic. i could use a nap right about now.

So, really, sum total of what you are saying, without all the nasty language, is that a customer should spend his money on what he (or she) wants? Well, no wonder you have to use all sorts of pejorative language. Who would bother arguing with you over that? I mean, when I first read this thread I was like "you need advice on whether or not you want to frequent a different dancer? Okay..." Fortunately you were here to lade it up with some nasty language and to make it sound like you were deriding all people who don't seek out the same kind of thing that you do in order to stir up some action, and then back away immediately with your hands up saying "What? I didn't say anything" when anyone noticed. Dude. You should SO be a stripper. You are like a champion of dressing room drama.actually, it's was more like,"a perversion isn't relevant in a sc since we all indulge in it. so, stop the eyeball clawing over it like a bunch of effing strippers." in any event, i was being clear the whole time. xdamage seems to have gotten it and without breaking into histrionics. frankly, if you feel affronted by my acrid, colorful and politically incorrect language and mistake it as a shot across the bow into the thin, fragile shell of your ego. well, my writing style should be no surprise at this point and whether i agree or disagree on any topic. it's not about to change. i don't compose my posts in the manner you find most soothing. i suggest you go back upstairs if you want that treatment.

xdamage
09-03-2007, 03:52 PM
i like strippers just fine, but let's not be confused.

Sure, it's just business, and in business we push for what we want, and it has nothing to do with disliking the other person or their profession, it's simple as we too want a deal that is in our best interest (just like the person we are doing business with).

evan_essence
09-10-2007, 08:56 PM
(This one's for the guys)
You boys really need to start a Men Only forum if you're going to keep pleading like that.


The question is... do guys lie when they say "I go for fun, I'm not worried about extras." Don't most guys or all guys technically sorta go for the chase and/or the chance that they might get extras? At least regulars like myself I guess do...Hmmm, I think, after failing to formulate a very clear question, you answered it yourself.


Am I a liar for saying I didn't want extras?Oops, I guess you revoked your answer to your own question and are asking the question again. What do you expect other customers to be, mind readers? How would someone else know when you're lying about what you like?


I'm sure I'll get flamed ...Good, I thought I was going to have to be gentle.


... but I'm looking for guys opinions on whether you think I should continue getting teased to death, or just go for the girls who play??I recommend, to be consistent, you should stay dissatisfied with what ever level of services you seek. ::)

-Ev

slims099
09-11-2007, 04:15 PM
You boys really need to start a Men Only forum if you're going to keep pleading like that.

-Ev

I've specifically asked for this but they won't open one.

Katrine
09-11-2007, 08:24 PM
Tough titties! I can't believe guys come to a Stripper support forum and expect to have their wished granted. Quite amusing.

doc-catfish
09-11-2007, 09:03 PM
You boys really need to start a Men Only forum if you're going to keep pleading like that.
Aww, now what fun would a board on blue be if it had no action from Kat, Jenny and yourself. Punk can only counter punch us guys so much before its loses any sense of sport.
:D


I've specifically asked for this but they won't open one.
Careful there man. One more outburst like that and a giant beer can will fall from the sky and crush you like a bug.

Bob_Loblaw
09-11-2007, 09:28 PM
Or a giant boob will come crashing down and crush you like a beer can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKkTdbBmP9k

Svelt
09-12-2007, 11:36 AM
I love the relationships here,

:duel:

good lord the entertainment factor....

slims099
09-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Tough titties! I can't believe guys come to a Stripper support forum and expect to have their wished granted. Quite amusing.

Oh I dont care now, it was the time all the women invaded my last post. Now it's behind me, i'll post another one real soon }:D