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Yekhefah
09-07-2007, 09:31 AM
Wow. I hadn't even thought of that. But I don't want to get my stepfather in trouble with her for telling me the truth, and since I'm 1000 miles away there's no other way I could've known about the drinking without my stepfather and brother telling me. My grandparents (her parents) also know the deal but they're not the type to ever say anything.

My mom has been weak and miserable for most of my life. It occurred to me last night that she might be suicidal. I hope not, because her minor sons don't need that. I'm so disgusted with her right now that in six years, when her baby turns 18, I don't give a fuck what she does anymore. But she needs to get her shit together for her kids.

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 09:35 AM
Wow. I hadn't even thought of that. But I don't want to get my stepfather in trouble with her for telling me the truth, and since I'm 1000 miles away there's no other way I could've known about the drinking without my stepfather and brother telling me. My grandparents (her parents) also know the deal but they're not the type to ever say anything.


I know you dont WANT to get them in trouble...but maybe its for the best. If they admit they told you..they have to admit they didnt believe her and maybe the cycle will break. By keeping their mouths shut they are enabling her...

It will suck. i'm not telling you it wont. People will be PISSED for awhile...but is that really worse then keeping on with the way it is? Only you can decide that...

DJ Maimed
09-07-2007, 09:41 AM
Just wanted to give you a "positive feedback" shout...you are really doing great at this.....when I have a lil' more time I will come up with one for you.

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 09:54 AM
Just wanted to give you a "positive feedback" shout...you are really doing great at this.....when I have a lil' more time I will come up with one for you.

Thanks! I'm really enjoying it!

Yekhefah
09-07-2007, 09:56 AM
Hm. You've definitely given me food for thought. I'm going to mull this over and probably do a slightly gentler version of it (my mom is quite fragile). Thank you, I hadn't even considered this course of action.

And yes, I agree, you are very good at this.

423texas
09-07-2007, 04:28 PM
Well Cameron, Here's a different question that only you can answer.

I love your avatar photo;)

Is that professionally done? Or is it a photo you did yourself?

What is that behind your head?

As I said, great avatar and photo.

Really fun thread too.

hardkandee
09-07-2007, 04:32 PM
It just hit me. SW has officially become Sex in the City.

:D

*back to advice from CK, sorry for the random interruption*

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 08:35 PM
Well Cameron, Here's a different question that only you can answer.

I love your avatar photo;)

Is that professionally done? Or is it a photo you did yourself?

What is that behind your head?

As I said, great avatar and photo.

Really fun thread too.

My avatar photo was shot by a photog friend of mine that has since moved away..>:(

behind my head would be the hood on my faux fur coat!

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 08:54 PM
It just hit me. SW has officially become Sex in the City.

:D

*back to advice from CK, sorry for the random interruption*

LOL..SW in The City!! Love it!

Oh wait..does that make me Carrie??? damn...I need to lose 50 pounds and spend all my money on Manolos!

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 09:28 PM
Dear Cameron,

How do I stop my compulsive cookie-baking? I can't seem to stop. Even in this gross muggy weather!

Thanks in advance,
The Cookie Pusher

Sorry...I refuse to help you with that. Your cookies are too good to stop!!

Although AC would not be a bad thing...

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 09:35 PM
Haha Ok, then how do I make obsessive cookie-baking into a more productive, lucrative endeavor?



I atill think you should start Lady Jades mail order bakery. You've already got a following here that would pay you...why not start a website? Cookies endorsed by strippers..whats better then that?;D

Mily
09-07-2007, 09:37 PM
LOL..SW in The City!! Love it!

Oh wait..does that make me Carrie??? damn...I need to lose 50 pounds and spend all my money on Manolos!


Take this quiz and find out! I'm a Carrie! :D


http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90649&highlight=for+the+sex+fans

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 09:40 PM
Take this quiz and find out! I'm a Carrie! :D




Apparently I'm a Charlotte. Yikes...did NOT see that one coming....

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 09:47 PM
I think there's a whole bunch of guidelines and crap I'd have to look into because it's a food substance. And I'd probably want to patent or trademark my recipe so that no one else steals it! I have no idea where to start on a business!

You SHOULD trademark that recipe!! I'm sure a simple google search could give you the info you need. I'll look into finding what I can tomorrow if you like

RoseWhite
09-07-2007, 09:54 PM
^^^ Oh! Oh! I know! It should be creamy and luscious, of course . . . but it should also come with patented Good Cameron ADVICE!!! Like a fortune cookie!!!

Yekhefah
09-07-2007, 09:55 PM
From what I've heard on here, I think Stripper Cookies would put Famous Amos out of business.

You've totally gotta call them that, too. You know, for the pun. Stripper Cookies!

Lick 'em all you want!

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 10:01 PM
OMFG!! Creamy stripper cookies with fortunes...awesomeness

Lets write the fortunes..

"tip naked girl get you loved for short time"

"theres no sex in the champagne room....no matter what the last girl did"

"no, you cant touch there"

"asking for strippers number gets you talked about on SW"

RoseWhite
09-07-2007, 10:04 PM
^^ I think we have a formula for success! AND hilarity!

Yekhefah
09-07-2007, 10:06 PM
Totally. Add a glittery wrapper with a sexy pole dancer silhouette, and you won't need the family-friendly market. Cash in on the stripper fad! I think Stripper Cookies will be a total hit.

You'll need a slogan... maybe, "Wanna taste my cookie?"

cameron_keys
09-07-2007, 10:07 PM
You'll need a slogan... maybe, "Wanna taste my cookie?"

Oh hell..I'd buy it ...even if they actually tasted like pussy. It would be a surprisingly wonderful treat that they taste like heaven instead...

Yekhefah
09-07-2007, 10:09 PM
Some pussy DOES taste like heaven.

teeth_of_the_hydra
09-07-2007, 10:29 PM
Dear Cameron:

I worry about getting flamed just for admitting to this, but here goes. While I was away, my roommate (without my prior knowledge or consent) told a friend of ours that he could store his firearms in our house. They are unloaded, and he has a license, but neither of us do. I suspect that I may be breaking the law, like, seriously, and if I am, please tell me so I can deal with this situation. Even if it is not illegal I am terrified of living in a house with guns. I know it's common here in FL, but I was raised in the gun-shy NE where firearms are considered terrible. I am also kind of upset that my roommate didn't consult me on this fairly major decision, but she doesn't seem to think it's a big deal... perhaps because she was raised in a house in FL with guns? Anyway, I need some guidance.

Mastridonicus
09-07-2007, 10:34 PM
Dear Cameron:
In regards to Lady Jade's Cooking endeavors, I feel that she should knock off ScoobySnacks, and use my StripperSnacks as the name of her cookies! Her cookies are FAB.

I killed a bag off in like, an 8 hour drive.



Dear Cameron,

Why do you close your eyes when we make love?
Who are you thinking about?

Mastretardicus.

GoldCoastGirl
09-08-2007, 05:10 AM
Dear Cameron

I want to persue other self employment opportunities as I'm enjoying being in business for myself. I don't want to go back to school to be an employee. Anyway, one of the persuits I've felt I would be good within is dog obediance training.

Here's the thing: I don't own a dog nor will I be able to own one whilst Puddy (the resident cat) is alive. I've a feeling he will surpass my Bibs's age (14 years) as he is 10 years old (and whilst diabetic + blind in one eye he is otherwise in good health).

So yeah. What would you suggest?

At the moment, my only way to get experience with dogs is working at the AWL Shelter and eventually be an observer for awhile at http://www.goldcoastdogobedience.com/ (as I asked them) yet not actually being a dog owner is a bit of a hinderance.

It's something I want to persue as I really do want to eventually work with animals in a self employed manner.

Are there other animal care related fields where I can still be self employed I should look ?

Plus I need to take into account that I still travel away for work purposes 2 weeks at a time every 2nd or 3rd month or so as I can't just stay at home + earn money unfortunately (it burns me out)... at the same time I will stay home if I must in order to persue an animal related industry sort of business.

Oh yeah, I was also interested in being a dog obediance trainer to help make me attractive in re pet sitting and dog walking as well.

Wannabe Dog Whisperer ;)

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 09:27 AM
Dear Cameron:

I worry about getting flamed just for admitting to this, but here goes. While I was away, my roommate (without my prior knowledge or consent) told a friend of ours that he could store his firearms in our house. They are unloaded, and he has a license, but neither of us do. I suspect that I may be breaking the law, like, seriously, and if I am, please tell me so I can deal with this situation. Even if it is not illegal I am terrified of living in a house with guns. I know it's common here in FL, but I was raised in the gun-shy NE where firearms are considered terrible. I am also kind of upset that my roommate didn't consult me on this fairly major decision, but she doesn't seem to think it's a big deal... perhaps because she was raised in a house in FL with guns? Anyway, I need some guidance.

Well...your comfort level is what is paramont here. If you arent comfortable having them in your home, tell her so.

Legally..in the state of FL it is perfectly legal. I can sell my guns to you and it doesnt have to even be reported to the state. You dont have to be licensed to OWN a gun in FL...just to carry.

If you think theres a chance the guns were used in a crime, or that your home will for some reason be subject to police search...you may be in for some annoyance in the form of interrogation. But ultimately...your friend would be held responsible(unless they could prove you had somethign to do with the crime or intentionally hid it)if thr guns reciept is in her name.

So...yes, you can keep her firearms legally with no problem.

The question is do you want to?

If you are too uncomfortable...suggest she put them in a storage space. Make sure she checks that it is within the rules of that private business...but many allow it.

Or ..tell her all the guns MUST be fitted with trigger locks(she can get them for @ $5 apiece)...that way the guns CANT be fired accidentally.

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 09:29 AM
Dear Cameron:
In regards to Lady Jade's Cooking endeavors, I feel that she should knock off ScoobySnacks, and use my StripperSnacks as the name of her cookies! Her cookies are FAB.

I killed a bag off in like, an 8 hour drive.



Dear Cameron,

Why do you close your eyes when we make love?
Who are you thinking about?

Mastretardicus.

Her cookies are indeed FAB!! I concur!

As for the other questions:
I close my eyes so I can fantasize about Carmen Electra witha strap on...

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 09:37 AM
Dear Cameron

I want to persue other self employment opportunities as I'm enjoying being in business for myself. I don't want to go back to school to be an employee. Anyway, one of the persuits I've felt I would be good within is dog obediance training.

Here's the thing: I don't own a dog nor will I be able to own one whilst Puddy (the resident cat) is alive. I've a feeling he will surpass my Bibs's age (14 years) as he is 10 years old (and whilst diabetic + blind in one eye he is otherwise in good health).

So yeah. What would you suggest?

At the moment, my only way to get experience with dogs is working at the AWL Shelter and eventually be an observer for awhile at (as I asked them) yet not actually being a dog owner is a bit of a hinderance.

It's something I want to persue as I really do want to eventually work with animals in a self employed manner.

Are there other animal care related fields where I can still be self employed I should look ?

Plus I need to take into account that I still travel away for work purposes 2 weeks at a time every 2nd or 3rd month or so as I can't just stay at home + earn money unfortunately (it burns me out)... at the same time I will stay home if I must in order to persue an animal related industry sort of business.

Oh yeah, I was also interested in being a dog obediance trainer to help make me attractive in re pet sitting and dog walking as well.

Wannabe Dog Whisperer ;)

Not knowing a lot abouot opportunities in Australia..I did a search. There are a few options:




It also seems you can partner as a dog trainer. Sinc eyou have an in with the industry already..why not ask to partner or apprentice with an experienced trainer? You'll get hands on training, and you can have a partner that has the room to keep the dogs at his/her home.

RoseLeigh
09-08-2007, 01:33 PM
All right, if Imma start this business, I'll need volunteers over here to help me bake and package these bad boys! Who's volunteering? ;D


ME! As long as I get to sample some of these much-admired cookies. Our kitchen is too small to be baking cookies unless I did it in the middle of the night. :(

RoseLeigh
09-08-2007, 01:36 PM
Tell everyone exactly what you just told me. That you are stressed and dont want the people around you adding to it, so could they please try to be positive around you for awhile. Threatening to end up on the roof with a shotgun usually works for me! Either that or holding my hands over my ears screaming Mary has a Little Lamb at the top of my lungs so I cant hear them.Joke, be funny about it...but make sure your point gets across that you just cant deal with negativity right now.

I'm going to try this. Thanks!

Hello_Kitty27
09-08-2007, 02:49 PM
Hey CK, just wanted to update you on my super-long boyfriend-issues post (back on page 4 of this thread). Well.....I had planned to ultimatum him this weekend .....he didn't call me so I showed up at the bar he was at. In mid-(pleasant-toned-voice)-ultimatum, I found out that he just found out that's being re-deployed to Iraq for 18 months. (In hindsight, I'm so glad I didn't go up there flipping out like gangbusters or something ....if I had been like that and he dropped this news, I would have felt like THE biggest ass ever)

So that explains his recent stand-off-ish-ness. I'm incredibly blah about the whole thing and obviously, being that we JUST started dating a couple months ago, we've basically ended things. But my brain is mush right now and I don't even know what to make of it all. I feel terrible for him, b/c he's already done 2 years there and he's been out of the military for nearly 2 years now. So that's the update.

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 02:56 PM
Hey CK, just wanted to update you on my super-long boyfriend-issues post (back on page 4 of this thread). Well.....I had planned to ultimatum him this weekend .....he didn't call me so I showed up at the bar he was at. In mid-(pleasant-toned-voice)-ultimatum, I found out that he just found out that's being re-deployed to Iraq for 18 months. (In hindsight, I'm so glad I didn't go up there flipping out like gangbusters or something ....if I had been like that and he dropped this news, I would have felt like THE biggest ass ever)

So that explains his recent stand-off-ish-ness. I'm incredibly blah about the whole thing and obviously, being that we JUST started dating a couple months ago, we've basically ended things. But my brain is mush right now and I don't even know what to make of it all. I feel terrible for him, b/c he's already done 2 years there and he's been out of the military for nearly 2 years now. So that's the update.

Well at least now you know. How is he being re-deployed if he isnt in the military anymore? Did he sign up again? I'm sure this is quite a shock if you werent expecting it...I'm so sorry.Maybe when he gets back you'll both be in a more relationship-y place and can start again.

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 02:57 PM
I :heartbeat Cameron Keys!

Maybe I will create a cookie recipe called The Cameron... hmmm...

I have an email inquiry into someone at the USDA about rules and laws regarding mail order food businesses. I'll let you know when i hear back

Hello_Kitty27
09-08-2007, 03:03 PM
Well at least now you know. How is he being re-deployed if he isnt in the military anymore? Did he sign up again? I'm sure this is quite a shock if you werent expecting it...I'm so sorry.Maybe when he gets back you'll both be in a more relationship-y place and can start again.

Eh ....they can pretty much just re-call you even if you're not in the reserves or whatever. I think there's a time limit of 4 years after you're done....something like that. He leaves in a couple months....we'll see what the future holds. I really enjoyed being with him and I'm hoping we still remain at least a little bit of an item until he leaves and then keep in touch while he's gone....even if it's just as friends. He's a good guy. I knew something had to be going on....and this is far beyond anything I thought it could have been.

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 03:34 PM
Damn! So you can quit and STILL get called to war? That SUCKS.

jhuka
09-08-2007, 04:28 PM
Dear Cameron,

I have this internet friend who is brilliant at giving advice to others and seems to have a great soul to boot. How do I convince her to go do this professionally for a magazine somewhere and make a million dollars at it?

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 04:31 PM
Dear Cameron,

I have this internet friend who is brilliant at giving advice to others and seems to have a great soul to boot. How do I convince her to go do this professionally for a magazine somewhere and make a million dollars at it?

Tell her how!

jhuka
09-08-2007, 04:47 PM
I've actually been putting some thought into this, though I think all of what I'll say here I'm sure you've already thought of. One avenue might the men's magazines (like Men's Health), if you can present yourself with a certain angle. A girl named Nicole Beland is doing a column there now: [email protected] Her angle is that she is "the girl next door" who knows the secrets, and men feel comfortable asking her their questions. Playboy is another possibility, and there are many others. You'll find these magazines in Writers Market 2008...there, the magazines are listed by genre, so you will see a number of possibilities there, depending on how you want to market yourself.

If I remember correctly, you are putting together a website--it would be a natural place to get this started, Ask Cameron Keys...Anything...you would need to come up with some distinctive hook. Then you could present this to the publications or you might even want to write an article for one of these publications based on some of your experiences and then propose the advice column. I don't know how much you want to publicize your film work--I don't know how you feel about it, I mean, but that could be used in approaching places like Maxim. Your warm and direct way of handling people, whether in men's magazines or not, will win people over, no doubt, and I think you could make this into a long-standing career if you wanted to. Today, with the internet handy, there are many outlets for this kind of work.

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 04:50 PM
I've thought of printing out excepts from this thread(names and identifying characteristics removed of course, and no mention of SW itself) and sending it to local papers to try for freelance work. But I have no idea who to send it to or what my chances are.

Amazing how I seem to be able to handle everyones life but my own...Dr. heal thyself right?!

jhuka
09-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Well, but that's a strength of yours--and a gift to others. So it's a good thing, and I think you're handling things well. You might want to look at different kinds of magazines (and get ideas from Writers' Market, which should be in the library) and slowly get an idea of what kinds of places would be interested in what you're doing. You DO have a special talent and an interest in this, so it would be fun to make a living at it or supplement your income with it.

I am rooting for you!

GoldCoastGirl
09-08-2007, 07:19 PM
Not knowing a lot abouot opportunities in Australia..I did a search. There are a few options:

http://jobsearch.gov.au/SearchResults/SearchResults.aspx?WHCode=0&rgn=&Occ=4614&BroadLoc=0&st=11&TextOnly=0


It also seems you can partner as a dog trainer. Sinc eyou have an in with the industry already..why not ask to partner or apprentice with an experienced trainer? You'll get hands on training, and you can have a partner that has the room to keep the dogs at his/her home.

Unfortunately the link didn't work for me.

In re the partner with a dog trainer idea - I didn't really give that one a thought! I figured I would start all this next year as I will hopefully have done enough volunteer work with the dogs at the AWL Shelter (dog walking and just being around dogs in general) to feel more confident.

I'll ask some of the local and not-so-local (Brisbane) based trainers because I would be willing to travel to be trained and get the experience.

This is all part of my exit plan. I figured it might take 2+ years before it will pay off.. if sooner then all the better :)

Will keep you updated. Thanks. :thumbsup

423texas
09-08-2007, 08:23 PM
Question Cameron.

I'm in Houston, Tx. I was at the mall today. Today I saw a girl I knew from one of my favorite SCs. I don't really know her, but I'm sure she would recognize me from the club.

She was with another girl who I didn't recognize. So I have no idea if the other girl is involved in SCs or not.

I wanted to say hello to the girl I knew, and I would have if she were alone. I can't imagine her being upset. We've talked in the club often, and she's always been particularly pleasant. I've never bought a dance from her (though I might now, when I tell her about seeing her in the mall). But she wasn't alone and I didn't say Hello.

Anyway, do you think I should have said hello? I think I could have handled it very casually. You know, where I would have said "Hello", and kept walking. And then the other girl might have asked her,"Who's that?". And my SC acquaintance could have handled it from there.

Anyway, that's the situation. In a way, I'm asking if it's proper to act like you don't recognize a girl outside of her SC? Or is it just like another job (think a salesgirl or schoolteacher), and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging a girl and saying "Hello", the way I would to a salesgirl or teacher that I know, and ran into outside of her workplace.

I realize that there are things specific to this situation. Like it would be very inappropriate and/or stupid to say, "Hi, how are you, are you dancing tonight;D", and I couldn't imagine doing that.

But, do you find a difference between dancers OTC, and girls in other occupations, outside of their workplaces. Or do you think they are the same and should be treated the same?

Regards,
423texas

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 09:05 PM
Question Cameron.

I'm in Houston, Tx. I was at the mall today. Today I saw a girl I knew from one of my favorite SCs. I don't really know her, but I'm sure she would recognize me from the club.

She was with another girl who I didn't recognize. So I have no idea if the other girl is involved in SCs or not.

I wanted to say hello to the girl I knew, and I would have if she were alone. I can't imagine her being upset. We've talked in the club often, and she's always been particularly pleasant. I've never bought a dance from her (though I might now, when I tell her about seeing her in the mall). But she wasn't alone and I didn't say Hello.

Anyway, do you think I should have said hello? I think I could have handled it very casually. You know, where I would have said "Hello", and kept walking. And then the other girl might have asked "Who's that?". And my SC acquaintance could have handled it from there.

Anyway, that's the situation. In a way, I'm asking if it's proper to act like you don't recognize a girl outside of her SC? Or is it just like another job (think a salesgirl or schoolteacher), and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging a girl and saying "Hello", the way I would to a salesgirl or teacher that I know, and ran into outside of her workplace.

I realize that there are things specific to this situation. Like it would be very inappropriate and/or stupid to say, "Hi, how are you, are you dancing tonight;D", and I couldn't imagine doing that.

But, do you find a difference between dancers OTC, and girls in other occupations, outside of their workplaces. Or do you think they are the same and should be treated the same?

Regards,
423texas

A good rule of thumb is to NOT say anything. Whoever she is with may not know she dances and she may be too shocked or just not quick enough to come up with another explanation...or even blurt it out.

Plus theres a bit of a creepy factor. Yes, you may be just saying hi...but a lot of guys would go stalker on her and her guard may go up immediately..making things awkward between you.

This job is differnat then being ..say ..a teacher...because of the taboo aspect. So some girls have to hide their job. And many girls prefer to keep their ITC life and their OTC life separate...having the two cross over can be uncomfortable.

Next time you see her ITC..tell her about this and ask if she'd like you to say hi if you see her again.

Yekhefah
09-08-2007, 09:08 PM
^^^ I just want to second this. I NEVER want to be approached by a customer outside of work, whether I'm alone or not and even just to say hello. Work is work and I don't want it infringing on my personal life in any way, shape, form, or fashion. I wouldn't want you to go to the club and tell me you saw me at the mall, either; it would creep me out. I can't speak for every dancer in the world but I can't be the only one who would rather just not be acknowledged at all.

423texas
09-08-2007, 09:20 PM
^^^ I just want to second this. I NEVER want to be approached by a customer outside of work, whether I'm alone or not and even just to say hello. Work is work and I don't want it infringing on my personal life in any way, shape, form, or fashion. I wouldn't want you to go to the club and tell me you saw me at the mall, either; it would creep me out. I can't speak for every dancer in the world but I can't be the only one who would rather just not be acknowledged at all.

Yekhevah,

I see where you are coming from and I will certainly respect that, if the situation ever happens again with someone I know.

But, I'm wondering if this rule goes both ways.

Suppose you saw a good SC customer (not your customer), at the mall. Would you refrain from saying Hello at the mall. And would you not mention it when you saw the guy at the club?

I realize this is an instance where roles and gender are important parts of the situation. And it would be hard to imagine a customer being creeped out. But I'm just asking.

For instance, it would be just as inappropriate for a dancer to say Hello to a SC regular and a friend (who she didn't know), outside of the club. It could be the SC regular is with his wife or a business associate, neither of which he would want to know about the SC.

You know what, upon reflection, I have to say that you are right. In a way SCs are like Las Vegas. What goes on there should stay there! Or it's definitely better that it does.

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 09:23 PM
But, I'm wondering if this rule goes both ways.

Suppose you saw a good SC customer (not your customer), at the mall. Would you refrain from saying Hello at the mall. And would you not mention it when you saw the guy at the club?


My 2 cents...yes it goes both ways. I would NOT say anything to a custie OTC. He may be with people(like his wife!) that he cant explain why some strange girl knows him...or he may just be creeped out himself or think that she will try to get money out of him for shopping(yes..people are paranoid).

All in all...yes...what happens in a SC should stay in a SC.

Yekhefah
09-08-2007, 09:29 PM
Agreed, since you asked me too and I piped in already. I have seen customers outside of work a few times and I ignored them completely, as they (thankfully) ignored me. We don't know each other, he's never spoken to me, he spoke to Lily. And Lily only lives at the club. Yekhefah does not want to talk to Lily's customers.

Sounds a bit schizo, but it is what it is.

All Good Things
09-08-2007, 10:03 PM
Yes, I agree. It's best to treat the SC and everything that goes on there as part of your "other life."

Your real life and other life sometimes collide for reasons beyond your control, but you should never, ever put a dancer in the position of having to cross over herself.

I feel a little differently about dancers acknowledging customers. I recognize that the risk of "exposure," for lack of a better term, runs both ways. But in my experience dancers are much more discreet and careful, and can judge a situation pretty quickly and more accurately, so they are a safer bet. I describe one exception below, but it surely is an exception.

It can get a bit challenging in other ways. If you socialize with dancers in group settings where, say, after a shift you'll all go to a dance club to meet up with dancers from a club across town, the waters can get a little murky. Particularly if it turns out that many dancers from the other club are there with their SOs, of course, and the waitstaff came along too, along with various friends who may or may not "know," so now you have a mixed room. When that's happened, I just switch off all club speak unless a dancer brings it up first. Not everybody does this -- I had a dancer from another club once look right at me and a dancer from my home club and say, "you two guys are married, right?" Harmless, for sure, she was pretty toasted, and she didn't "out" anybody, but it's not a good idea to walk around guessing about people at random.

So Cameron, what is your advice for mixed social settings outside the club?

cameron_keys
09-08-2007, 10:06 PM
So Cameron, what is your advice for mixed social settings outside the club?


I think in this situation..you should always err of the side of caution. If she doesnt bring it up..neither should you.

RoseLeigh
09-09-2007, 12:33 AM
When do you think *I* bake? lol We have an eat-in kitchen so it's big enough for my baking operations, but it's been so damn hot that I wait until it cools down before I even dare turn the oven on!


This is true. My kitchen though is really small and shared with 9 other women, so yeah, not a lot of space for cookie baking. Don't know what I am going to do for December AKA cookie baking month.

cameron_keys
09-09-2007, 10:01 AM
OK...now I need YOUR help. I'm going to attempt to do this professionally..so i'm sending out snippets in hopes of landing a freelance job.

But I'd prefer not to haev this connected to my porn background. It would be just my luck that I'd become the next Dear Abby adn thered be a huge scandal that I did porn. I'd rather my family wastn subjected to that if I can help it.

So....I cant call it Ask Cameron Keys.

I'm ok with stripper referances...I can blow that off as publicity since my stripping career cant really be proven.
So I thought of The Stripper Sage or Stump the Stripper.

But thats all I got....now I'm stuck.

Any thoughts on what I should call my column?