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Chicagoeditor
09-26-2007, 09:47 AM
At most, I spend like $50 there each time (that includes $10 cover, drinks, and other girls)

WTF? Where is this place? Bosnia?

Look, I routinely spend a $250-$350 (bar tab and a few dances) and yet I'm sophisticated enough to know two things: 1) this doesn't entitle me to any kind of "special" treatment, it's just my way of having fun and being generous; 2) there are gentlemen who routinely outspend me AND are far better looking. :D

ExoticEngineer
09-26-2007, 10:00 AM
But CE, you make me purrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

;)

Centaur
09-26-2007, 12:10 PM
You spend $50 and get dances of multiple girls, pay cover charge and get drinks - this must be the cheapest SC in the world.

Ha. Well, a drink. Usually a bottle of water. Sometimes a beer or two. I'm a lightweight when it comes to alcohol.

Basically I go in and hang out for a couple of hours. Cover is $10. Water is $3 after I tip the waitress and I usually drink a bottle or two. Maybe a beer. Then I'll buy 2-3 tablesides for $10 each and I slip the girls I like a buck here and there when they're onstage. I'm not trying to be cheap, but I'm not going to try to get "special treatment" for being a big spender, either.

We actually used to have a club in town that was much cheaper...

Hatshepsut
09-26-2007, 01:29 PM
^^ Yep. Stay away from us smart girls who actually know an asshole when we see em. Only go for the drunk, weak, or stupid strippers who won't be able to tell your a loser.

Yep, that's what all the stereotypical stripper boyfriends do.

Chicagoeditor
09-26-2007, 01:36 PM
At this point, this thread has lost all meaning--maybe to the OPer and definitely to me. (Except to confirm what I already knew: I make EE purrrrr.)

Phil-W
09-26-2007, 02:58 PM
I've always thought there's a mental switch in a dancer's mind.

She sees you in the club and 99% of the time it gets thrown to the side that says "customer - only want to see him ITC. Got no problem in getting naked in front of him".

Occasionally it gets thrown to the other side that says "like this guy - only really want to see him OTC. Don't like getting naked in front of him".

I don't think there's much middle ground. A dancer either sees you as a customer (and a souce of money) or as a friend she doesn't want too involved in her work environment.

If she wants you as a friend OTC, I'm sure she'll let you know.

Problem from your part is that you're one of the 50 guys that week that have decided she's adorable/nice personality/would just love to see her OTC.

And with odds like that, she'll generally come to a nice, sweeping, prejudicial conclusion - this guy is just like the 49 others.

Sorry...

Phil.

Lola Rose
09-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Flame shields set to max...

Alright, I'm a newb. And a custie. And a guy. And I have a real crush on a stripper at the local club who I want to ask out without being a tool, so I'm here to ask other strippers for advice.

I've noticed from browsing on here that the consensus is that "customers are pathetic and I'd never want to see one outside of work." Well, I admit that lately I am feeling kind of pathetic, too. All my friends have moved away after college so it's just me in town, lonely and still struggling to keep my head above water. I'm socially awkward and I have a hard time meeting people I connect with. I wind up going to this club about once a week just to have someone fun to talk to. That's how I met her.

Now, I do tip and buy some dances out of respect. I understand that she is working and she's there to make money, so I don't demand that she waste her time making smalltalk with me when she could be selling VIP dances, but I usually go on slow nights so this isn't that much of an issue. I actually feel embarrassed to be paying a girl I'm interested in to take her clothes off for me, even if that's how she makes a living.

I assume most strippers think that if they meet a guy at the club he must be a loser who's only into her for her body or assume he thinks she's a slut who'll hop into bed with anyone for a price. The girl is hot (obviously) but what I really like is her personality. I'm into her for who she is, or at least who she seems to be at the club. We share a lot of the same interests and I felt like there was some genuine chemistry there, personality-wise (tough to describe). It's like we could have a deep connection if only I could have somehow met her somewhere else (and not fucked things up as I tend to do). I want to take a chance and somehow ask this girl out for something casual, where we can talk and have a good time without a lot of pressure on anybody. Or without getting her in trouble at work.

I'm sure most of you are smirking about how I obviously got played masterfully and that this is all part of the hustle you pull off dozens of times a night, but the way she was acting, and laughing (this loud, dorky, squeaky laugh that really made me fall for her) makes me want to pursue. I'm not going to throw tons of money at her, and the last thing I want her to think is that I'm trying to solicit her for prostitution, but it would be nice to hang out sometime when she's not working. Since I've only seen her a couple of times I don't think I fall under the category of "regular customer" yet. "Perverted Loser" maybe, but not "regular." Hopefully.

Fuck, I'm tearing myself up over this. If anyone has any advice, even if it's just to say "you're a fool who should stop deluding yourself," I would appreciate it.


um. ya.

(and i only read the op, sorry if this is redundant...)

Chicagoeditor
09-26-2007, 03:17 PM
this guy is just like the 49 others.


Not to mention he's a self-declared cheap seat-warmer when he's in her club.

jaizaine
09-27-2007, 12:57 AM
Ha. Well, a drink. Usually a bottle of water. Sometimes a beer or two. I'm a lightweight when it comes to alcohol.

Basically I go in and hang out for a couple of hours. Cover is $10. Water is $3 after I tip the waitress and I usually drink a bottle or two. Maybe a beer. Then I'll buy 2-3 tablesides for $10 each and I slip the girls I like a buck here and there when they're onstage. I'm not trying to be cheap, but I'm not going to try to get "special treatment" for being a big spender, either.

We actually used to have a club in town that was much cheaper...

hey big spender LMAO. I can;t believe ANY stripper would hang around you in the hope of a $10 dance. Geez maybe she does like you? Or maybe she just has nothing better to do. But shit man that is a CHEAP night out. Sorry I hate cheap people.

Of all the dancers who I have known to hook up with a guy OTC it was a guy who was very spendy. This is not necessarily a gold digging thing but it shows what sort of person he is - is he a tight arse vs generous and someone who likes to have a good time when he goes out and doesn't mind spending a bit of money.

If I ever met a guy OTC and that's a huge IF it would NEVER be someone who spent as little as you do. AGGGH I just find it offensive.

jaizaine
09-27-2007, 12:59 AM
strippers need love to, nothing wrong with loving them

unless they post on this site, then stay away

NO NO WE DON'T. Please don't come ITC trying to be a white knight.

We are quite capable of finding guys to love us BELIEVE me on that one.

PL's need not apply.

Hatshepsut
09-27-2007, 01:21 AM
I once made friends with a guy who came into the club. He was a pretty good spender. While I wasn't looking to milk him, it gave me a good idea of his manners and knowledge of what to do in appropriate situations. Being a cheapass in a club is not appropriate. If he's going to be stingy and expect services, that says a lot about his character. How a person treats service is generally a good indicator.

I agree. If she liked you, she'd let you know in other ways. My friend's dad is such an incredible character and spends so well in clubs that he gets their phone numbers and dates all the time, even if he makes it clear that he doesn't give money OTC.

Paris
09-27-2007, 04:56 PM
WTF? Where is this place? Bosnia?


Hell, he'd be a big spender in Eugene, Oregon! Or Butte Montana;D.

Centaur, you are lonely and in a crappy spot in your life. You are leaving yourself open to self-deluding behavior. That dancer makes you feel nice *emotionally* as well as arousing you physically. That is the definition of love.

Any stripper worth her platforms can make men fall in love with her. That is the job. That is why she gets paid. The euphoric reaction of chemistry in the brain. It is addictive. Be careful.

Darcy Foxx
09-27-2007, 07:23 PM
Hmm, well, I'm not going to flame the OP.

I met my current boyfriend while I was at work. I was dancing on stage to Fall Out Boy, he tipped me some dollars and said it was cos he loves my music, I noticed he was wearing black nail polish, I said "oh snap, I have black nail polish on too, and I think guys with black nail polish are hot!". After I came off stage he bought some VIP's from me, but we sat there and chatted the whole time. He came in a few times over the next couple of months and we'd always talk in VIP, and every time I'd run into the dressing room and squeal about how the "hot emo boy from a band" was back in. Then one night he came in and I sat with him for like 3 hours at the end of the night and I realised how much of a connection we had, we exchanged MySpaces, and met up for coffee, and it all started there.

So you never know, it can happen. It's not likely, but sometimes you do meet a customer who you have a connection with. I should note that my boyfriend was the first guy in 4 years of dancing whom I ever gave out my phone number to or met up with outside of work. So yeah, it's really fucking rare, and the odds are that she's not interested in you and she's just doing her job. But there's a slim chance she likes you, I guess.

thing
09-27-2007, 08:19 PM
^^ I agree. You can't go into a club in hopes to find "the one". It depends on the initial attraction, the circumstances, the availability, and the "spark". The chances of everything falling into place are slim to none. The one relationship I had with one of the fine members of this site was a completely unplanned event, that had us both go "How the hell did that happen?" ::)