View Full Version : Got the finger, you know the bird, the middle finger
Katrine
10-09-2007, 10:00 PM
I would have reported her to the manager for this behavior.
Manager's punishment, "bad stripper, no cocaine for one hour!" :P
AudreyLeigh
10-10-2007, 10:15 AM
Manager's punishment, "bad stripper, no cocaine for one hour!" :P
Serious tho - you really think managemnt will do anything?
jasmine
10-10-2007, 11:18 AM
Katrine is dead on with this one. She probably would have had to stab him with her stiletto to get the managers attention.
I do however think she was wrong. I've had many a customer be a jerk. The screaming NO!!! before you even get close, the wave off, and the complete ignore all hurt, but being an ass back just makes you look bad in front of the other customers.
Anyway, if we assume he told the truth and wasn't rude, don't customers have a right to pick which girls they find attractive??? It does sometimes feel very personal, because unlike other sales positions, they are not rejecting our product, but are actually rejecting us. Sometimes you just have to go to the dressing room to calm yourself (or cry).
Edit: To customers we are just pretty little objects that they can pick and choose between, rejecting or accepting on the slightest whim. Many don't even seem to realize that this is not like shopping for an object and that we do have feelings and some nights each rejection can feel very personal. Add a little alcohol to that and you can have some unpredictable behavior.
at321
10-11-2007, 11:14 AM
hmmm...from my POV as someone who hasn't done dancing yet, I think it's rude that another dancer would do that. It's just not professional. Glad though that you still like the strip club scene. Not all strippers are like that.
crizgolfer
10-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Edit: To customers we are just pretty little objects that they can pick and choose between, rejecting or accepting on the slightest whim. Many don't even seem to realize that this is not like shopping for an object and that we do have feelings and some nights each rejection can feel very personal. Add a little alcohol to that and you can have some unpredictable behavior.
The nature of this business is fantasy. That fantasy is driven by the concept of "eye candy." Mix this with booze and you can definitely witness guys in the midst of their most assholish bevavior. I have seen it many times.
But still, even with the glitz and the eye candy factor there are still many customers that see you as a real and feeling person. If you peruse SW there are many threads where customers ask for nice ways to say "no." Many of these questions are not driven by wimpiness, but rather looking for ways to not hurt your feelings.
badbadkitty13
10-16-2007, 10:20 PM
If I EVER get the finger in the club, I'll exclaim "How much does THAT cost?"
lol... you've made my day.
minnow
10-19-2007, 10:08 AM
I think the dancer was justified in giving you the bird. :finger: [QUOTE]
I don't. This is a service/entertainment industry. If customer doesn't buy a car from sales rep A after taking a test drive, would sales rep B be justified in flipping the bird to customer?? Has anyone here seen a sales friend/colleague flipping the bird to customer just because he didn't buy computer/stereo/shoes/clothing, whatever after sales rep put some time & effort into pitch??
I haven't. If this happened in any of aforementioned OTC settings, bird flipper would likely be looking for another job.
MinahSky
11-13-2007, 04:16 AM
I looked at this girl before sitting down and decided she was not my type. She comes over and asks if I want company. I politely say, "No, I think I'm good for now." She gets an attitide and says "I'm not asking if you want a dance." I say "Well, I'm not really in the mood right now," and I look away. She says, "Don't tell me you don't want a dance!" and gets really upset. I'm trying my best to be polite. I say, "Well, I'm sorry. What do you want me to do?" She gets pissed off and leaves in a huff.
I see her talk to a really attractive dancer. The attractive dancer walks by. I say hi. The attractive dancer gives me a really nasty look and gives me the finger.
Sheesh. I was at a loss for words. I have never seen anything like that. Then I got some dances from the next girl that walked by.
Many time customers don't listen to what we say. They just assume that we asked for a dance. Not that this excuses her being a cunt.
Be glad that for no money out of pocket you found out NEVER to spend any money on those 2 witches... the first girl not only screwed herself out of money by proving she REALLY wasn't your type, but pulled along the other dancer who fell for her tripe along for the ride. Oh well, if the second girl wasn't smart enough to keep her eyes on the prize instead of siding with her strip club friend, I'm not going to feel sad for her...
PrettyCurlieQ
11-13-2007, 04:21 AM
haha... welcome to the stripclub
word. if someone pisses me off when i'm already in a bad mood, i will usually pass on the message that that customer is worthless and not to waste a second on him. and i'll be very obvious about it.
this isn't a good professional way to solve my inner delimma, but that's what i do occasionally.
The nature of this business is fantasy. That fantasy is driven by the concept of "eye candy." Mix this with booze and you can definitely witness guys in the midst of their most assholish bevavior. I have seen it many times.
But still, even with the glitz and the eye candy factor there are still many customers that see you as a real and feeling person. If you peruse SW there are many threads where customers ask for nice ways to say "no." Many of these questions are not driven by wimpiness, but rather looking for ways to not hurt your feelings.
All I have to say is thank you for the consideration. You and every guy who bothers to take an extra two seconds and give me a polite 'No thanks' as opposed to the wave off or 'No I'm good' in the most superior way imaginable makes my night at work a little easier and more pleasant.
DylanAngel
11-13-2007, 06:47 AM
I'm a little late in this thread but I have to agree with those who said that the dancer was acting childish IF it went down like the OP said it did.
The "I was just saying hello" thing doesn't wash with me either, because, if you are a true hustler, you'd make a mental note that he responded favorably and return to ask for a dance. At least he's not wasting your time.
As for the sit and rest thing, as a customer, umm, no. If you sit next to us (me and fiance) to rest your feet, and you are someone we don't want to spend time with, you might be cockblocking the dancer we do want to have dances with.
And his comment regarding the spare tire was meant, I think, to assume that everyone finds spare tires unnattractive. OP, you're not realizing that everyone has different tastes.
I think you did fine, IF, if went down like you said it did. But then again, I'm a jaded, retired stripper and I think there's more here than meets the eye.
MinahSky
11-13-2007, 01:22 PM
I think the OP (and most men) doesn't realize that no matter how good looking they THINK they are, if it wasn't for their money, we wouldn't be bothered with them either...I can count on one hand not including the thumb how many truly handsome guys I have ever seen in a strip club...
Not to mention that men who tend to be unforgiving when it comes to women's looks tend to have many physical (and psychological) flaws of their own.
xoxoGracexoxo
11-13-2007, 01:57 PM
I am not a perfect person, but one thing I hold some pride in is that I treat dancers in a club the same as I treat any woman outside the club.
Well, this is a pretty good rule of thumb. And if you say "no thanks" to an approaching dancer with the same tone and demeanor with which you would say it to anyone else, nobody will get offended. Or, if they do, you can just write them off as a silly and not have to get on a message board to check whether or not your behavior is OK.
It IS irritating when I am walking over to introduce myself and, yes absolutely, initiate a line of conversation that may lead to a dance, that being my job, after all -- and get stiff-armed, as though I were some pushy, brain-dead, glassy-eyed, coked-up, wallet-snatching slut-bandit who cannot be deterred from her course by anything less than total rudeness and perhaps brute force. If I'm having a bad night, this shit can really sting.
On the other hand, I understand why customers do it. They've probably all had one bad experience with a girl who mistook minimal civility for a come-on, plonked onto their laps, and refused to get up. What bothers me is being mistaken for that girl. How can they look at me, with all my friendliness and radiant charm, and assume I'm a lap-squatter out to ruin their night?
Also, when you grunt and roll your eyes and slouch, what you're really telling me is that you're a weak, ball-less futz who gets pushed around a lot, and the only way you know to keep me from pushing you around, too, is to irritate me into leaving you alone. And it works, so there you go.
Big boys know how to man up, look a girl in the eye, and tell her their not in the mood for a dance. Big girls know to take it in stride and move on. If you are a person of reasonable confidence, you should be able offer a friendly rejection, and accept the same. Just sayin.
MinahSky
11-13-2007, 02:59 PM
If you don't like a dancer that comes to speak to you, POLITELY decline her offer, regardless of her looks. No one can sit in your lap that you do not allow. If you're old enough to get into a club, you're old enough to ask her to get up or get the attention of the a bouncer to POLITELY get her up. Being a jerk is seen and heard by all...seen by the ladies on the floor and heard by the other girls in the dressing room.
The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that you most likely didn't decline as nicely as you claim to.
doc-catfish
11-13-2007, 03:39 PM
In an environment where people are consuming alcohol, music is being played too loud, people's emotions are on edge, and the possibility of illegal drug use is going on, its not all that hard to fathom that the scenario went down just like the OP said it did.
I too have had communication misunderstandings with people at strip clubs where for some reason an otherwise innocuous gesture or series of words came off a bit more bluntly than how it was intended. Far more often than not, the target of my "ire" was making it difficult to resolve the matter amicably.
I mean who here hasn't been snapped at because they were the first person an angry soul just happened to bump into when that person's emotions were on hair trigger or hasn't been that person because you were having a bad day?
Like I said earlier, the best advice here would be for everyone to just chill out.