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No, it doesn't.
Maturity is often the lack of choice.
Yekhefah
10-05-2007, 09:56 AM
Age is not necessarily an indicator of maturity, BTW.
Katrine
10-05-2007, 10:12 AM
I had this conversation yesterday, at a restaurant I conduct business in often. The owner was making fun of this really hot, yet incredibly stupid girl he took to an event the other day, after I was unable to be his date.
I thought of Sh0t's "validation of hottest girl" mentality that he brings up often. I mentioned that almost ALL men would put up with a ton of shit from a women if she is exceptionally hot. Two guys at the bar agreed wholehearedly. The owner didn't agree, but that's 1 of 3. Not statistically significant but...
I look forward to the success of your next thread Sh0t. Fuck, I really need to go back to work, lol
francescadubois
10-05-2007, 10:18 AM
I never said anything about settling for the less attractive.
The validation gained from fucking a 10 is worth far more than any brief sexual gratification gained from having sex with an amazingly sex partner who is an 8.
I would rather be able to say I fucked Jessica Alba, but she was a bad lay than say I fucked Suzie from across the street who was amazing in bed.
Pay attention ladies, because this is how men really think. I have another thread in the making just for that.
I've seen you mention this several times in different threads. But you will get tired of looking at that very hot girl, won't you? Then what? You're just stuck with a bad lay. I think that if your ego is so that fragile that you need it to be validated by keeping an empty-headed trophy on your arm so other guys will think you're the shit, then no, you're not mature at all.
Or maybe we women are just delusional about men's thought process on this matter.
I've seen you mention this several times in different threads. But you will get tired of looking at that very hot girl, won't you? Then what? You're just stuck with a bad lay. I think that if your ego is so that fragile that you need it to be validated by keeping an empty-headed trophy on your arm so other guys will think you're the shit, then no, you're not mature at all.
Well, when you tire of her, you just get a new one, a la Trump.
Djoser
10-05-2007, 11:43 AM
Fuck that, I could give a shit about some vapid bimbo that everyone else fawns over. That's like mental masturbation. Is the man getting a sexual kick from the woman, or from the adulation of other men? The women's adulation doesn't seem to matter as much, but is more a tool to get even more trophy bimbos, with little real respect granted them.
I'll take the one with inner as well as outer beauty, anyday, who is smart enough to appreciate me, and the connection we are making. A woman like that is worth 10 bimbos.
And fuck taking shit from a hot woman, I learned not to put up with that pretty quickly at work.
The former slut comment was sort of a joke, if perhaps in questionable taste. But the kind of women I'm talking about have had a strong sex drive, coupled with a desire to satiate it thoroughly--and they have imagination, which is all-important. They tend to know what they want, and to appreciate getting it enough to give it back with some ability.
SportsWriter2
10-05-2007, 12:07 PM
I'm still curious to know how the cervix can be stimulated into orgasm.
Some submissives get off on being slammed. You know what "good hurt" is, right? I don't wire them; I only test the circuits.
Here's to the Moderately Attractive!
I know Tens who honestly think they're only Moderately Attractive. It's scary how people see themselves in distorted mirrors.
wasfatboy
10-05-2007, 12:47 PM
ok maybe im old or something but i was taught Cunnilingus a specific way.
And ladys tell me if this is wrong?
i start out by gently running my tongue lighty along the labial folds, not applying pressure, i occasionally will dip twards the center to check for moistness to see if its pleasurable.
once i feel she is excited i will lightly lick around her clitoris until i find that "electric" spot where she she squirms. i will then slowly lick and and if she likes it lightly suck on her clitoris. i occasionally will run my tongue down to her vagina to see what reaction i get.
Cunnilingus is like playing a beautiful instrument. you have to stroke lightly pluck carefully and it is different each time. the only way to know if its being done right is to feel your partners reaction and to pay attention. its hard to fake certain muscle contractions. and a samrt man or women should be able to read them.
now i will probably get flamed for some of these comments but that is how iw was taught to do it, and so far i have never had a complaint.
i also believe in the rule the lady always comes first.
I would rather be able to say I fucked Jessica Alba, but she was a bad lay than say I fucked Suzie from across the street who was amazing in bed.
Pay attention ladies, because this is how men really think. I have another thread in the making just for that.
HAH! That's the most shallow thing I've ever read on here, and I know lots of men who would disagree with this... 'experienced' men.
Budai
10-05-2007, 06:34 PM
The validation gained from fucking a 10 is worth far more than any brief sexual gratification gained from having sex with an amazingly sex partner who is an 8.
I would rather be able to say I fucked Jessica Alba, but she was a bad lay than say I fucked Suzie from across the street who was amazing in bed.
To each their own, Sh0t. I don't enjoy disappointment. Consequently, I would much rather fuck Suzie from across the street (as often as possible) :P .
Maturity is often the lack of choice.
Actually, in this instance, maturity is the choice of sexual gratification over peer approval. Honestly, Sh0t, would you rather have great sex with a woman or an "attaboy" from a man?
But you will get tired of looking at that very hot girl, won't you? Then what? You're just stuck with a bad lay. I think that if your ego is so that fragile that you need it to be validated by keeping an empty-headed trophy on your arm so other guys will think you're the shit, then no, you're not mature at all.
Sh0t, would you:
a) continue to see Jessica Alba without mentioning to your friends that sex with her is half a notch above necrophilia?
b) tell 'em that Ms. Alba's a "bad lay" but you're taking the time to teach her what pleasing her man is really about?
c) move on to the next conquest and chalk Jessica up to overly high expectations?
d) none of the above
Jenny
10-05-2007, 06:48 PM
Actually, in this instance, maturity is the choice of sexual gratification over peer approval. Honestly, Sh0t, would you rather have great sex with a woman or an "attaboy" from a man?
Well, Sh0t has been perfectly clear and consistent that he would rather have an "attaboy" from a man, and that sex is a status issue with him, not a sensual issue. And we all know that he is not the only guy who feels that way, and that it is generally considered to be pretty sexist and a character flaw. So yeah - women aren't the only one's who are sexually repressed and we can all hope for better things for Sh0t in the future.
sol_de_pr2
10-05-2007, 08:45 PM
I enjoy licking a moist warm pussy. It's finger lickin' good ;D
Casual Observer
10-06-2007, 04:19 PM
I would rather be able to say I fucked Jessica Alba, but she was a bad lay than say I fucked Suzie from across the street who was amazing in bed.
Pay attention ladies, because this is how men really think. I have another thread in the making just for that.
I'll have to disagree with you here, dude. I'm too old and have had far too much good sex to settle for bad sex, even if the chick is staggeringly beautiful. In that scenario, I'd happily tag slutty Susie rather than Jessica.
Now, that said, I'd gladly be seen in public in various states of inappropriate behavior with Jessica Alba; being with the hottest chick(s) in the place is generally better than sex with most girls. But then again, perhaps I'm just jaded.
You aren't a senior citizen so you aren't that damn old man. Are you even 40? If you feel old already, I feel for ya.
I've had lots of sex too, enough for a few lifetimes considering how promiscuous I am. In fact, the more great sex I've had, the more I look for novelty fucks like fucking sisters, mom/daughters, porn stars, actresses, whoever. If I didn't get laid, I might go chase Suzie, but since I can easily find good sex with any number of "normal" girls, what does Suzie hold over the novelty of fucking an A-list actress sex symbol?
You even say at the end of your post that you are "jaded". If so, I would think Alba's value as a novelty lay would increase, not decrease. Your post seems inconsistent to me.
Honestly, Sh0t, would you rather have great sex with a woman or an "attaboy" from a man?
The public validation seems to last longer,. Would you rather play a great pickup game of basketball or have 5 minutes of court time in the NBA, but it won't be much fun because of your skill level? I'd take the 5 minutes of NBA court time, myself.
All of this is in the context of basically no-strings sex. If you are talking about a relationship, your priorities will change. As I stand now, I have no real interest in a relationship because they really offer nothing worth the restrictions.
Well, Sh0t has been perfectly clear and consistent that he would rather have an "attaboy" from a man, and that sex is a status issue with him, not a sensual issue. And we all know that he is not the only guy who feels that way, and that it is generally considered to be pretty sexist and a character flaw. So yeah - women aren't the only one's who are sexually repressed and we can all hope for better things for Sh0t in the future.
I think the only flaw I have about it is that I'm honest about things. Regardless of what most SW males say because they seem to all promote some "perfect man" type of shit, men are pretty shallow. I recognize I am. I also recognize that if I was in a more desperate situation, I'd probably find my actions becoming less shallow, but your thoughts would still be there. I have a longer post coming with some of this stuff fleshed out and some book recommendations that talk about exactly this.
I don't think I'm sexually repressed, I feel pretty sexually liberated and I try not to judge others on their actions, outside of if they are hurting themselves.
I appreciate your concern for my future, however, and thank you for the kind sentiment.
francescadubois
10-06-2007, 05:30 PM
Wow, sh0t, I'm speechless.
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 05:54 PM
OK I don't know that I agree 100% w/ Shot but I can see a little bit of his point. I'd rather have crappy sex with a 10 then great sex with a 4, that's for sure.
But an analogy which might illustrate his POV from the female perspective...
If you're a girl, would you rather spend a weekend with a rich guy who is willing to take you on a $$$ shopping spree while staying at his house in St Bart's...but he's a total bore and has no sense of humor or fun...
or a weekend at the trailer park of a poor guy who will go dutch on a case of Natty Light with you...but he's a lot of fun and a super nice guy who makes you laugh?
LOL @ sexist shopping analogy.
It doesn't work anyway Hyde because women aren't men, so the same kind of analogy isn't applicable that cleanly.
Budai
10-06-2007, 06:02 PM
Actually, in this instance, maturity is the choice of sexual gratification over peer approval. Honestly, Sh0t, would you rather have great sex with a woman or an "attaboy" from a man?
The public validation seems to last longer,. Would you rather play a great pickup game of basketball or have 5 minutes of court time in the NBA, but it won't be much fun because of your skill level? I'd take the 5 minutes of NBA court time, myself.
IMO, neither 5 minutes of low skill performance at the NBA level or being seen with a celebrity (unless you publicly copped to National Enquirer about the necrophilia) would be deserving of "public validation". Merely being seen with an A-list actress in order for you to bask in her reflected glory doesn't seem congruent with your implied agenda of conquest, peer recognition and self-congratulation.
I think the only flaw I have about it is that I'm honest about things. Regardless of what most SW males say because they seem to all promote some "perfect man" type of shit, men are pretty shallow. I recognize I am.
Sh0t, I truly would much rather fuck "Suzie from across the street" (as often as possible). You seem shallow regarding appearances and I KNOW that I'm shallow about good sex. ;)
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 06:06 PM
OK so that it doesn't appear so sexist...I'll try a different one...
Let's say you're invited to a party, a big swanky event where all of your friends will be there, relatives, and a bunch of people important to you.
Two guys ask you...one is good looking, suave, rich, important...and he's as boring as stump and as dumb as a post. The other is smart, funny, nice...but he's poor, ugly as a troll and dresses like a hobo.
Who you going with?
Jenny
10-06-2007, 06:08 PM
I think the only flaw I have about it is that I'm honest about things.
All repressed and sexist guys say that "they're just honest." And that is true, because they are being honest. However being honest doesn't mean that everyone who doesn't say what you say is lying; and being honest doesn't mean that your "honest" outlook is healthy. And I'm perfectly willing to believe that you don't even realize that you are really fucked up. Either way there is nothing I can do to help you - so good luck in being in a more contented and happy sexual state in the future.
Regardless of what most SW males say because they seem to all promote some "perfect man" type of shit, men are pretty shallow. I recognize I am.
Well. A) I'd say that you are recognizing you are, but only assuming that all other men are similarly fucked up. And B) that what I'm saying has nothing to do with "depth" or "shallowness."
I don't think I'm sexually repressed, I feel pretty sexually liberated and I try not to judge others on their actions, outside of if they are hurting themselves.
Being liberated and being promiscuous are not the same thing. In fact, more often than not, they do not go together. (Not a judgment on the liberated, promiscuous people - but we all know that saying "Well, I've fucked 300 guys/girls doesn't mean a damn thing about one's personal liberation). I'm not judging you Sh0t; I'm taking you entirely at your word and I do think it is kind of neat that you are so upfront. However I still think using sex as status control is fucked up and psychologically unhealthy and "being honest" is not actually a substitute for being... you know, sound.
I appreciate your concern for my future, however, and thank you for the kind sentiment.
No problem. None of my business, and completely out of my purview of influence. But I still wish you well in your life.
Yekhefah
10-06-2007, 06:17 PM
OK so that it doesn't appear so sexist...I'll try a different one...
Let's say you're invited to a party, a big swanky event where all of your friends will be there, relatives, and a bunch of people important to you.
Two guys ask you...one is good looking, suave, rich, important...and he's as boring as stump and as dumb as a post. The other is smart, funny, nice...but he's poor, ugly as a troll and dresses like a hobo.
Who you going with?
The one I'll have a good time with, hands down. I could give a shit how rich or important a guy is, most rich important guys are assholes. I'd rather go with someone cool and stimulating who makes me laugh and shows me a good time. This isn't to say I'll definitely be sexually attracted to him if he's really that ugly, but I'd definitely rather hang out with him.
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 06:20 PM
Yek, that's fair...
How do you think the average girl would respond to that situation?
Yekhefah
10-06-2007, 06:24 PM
Depends on where. Average Memphis chick, same as me. Average L.A. girl, rich bore. Culture is definitely a consideration.
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 06:27 PM
OK I'll argue some more...what the hell...
Take 100 random girls from various parts of the country. How many go with the ugly poor fun guy and blow the handsome rich bore off?
My guess is, the same percentage as guys that would rather have great sex with a 6 and blow off a frigid 10.
Katrine
10-06-2007, 06:54 PM
OK so that it doesn't appear so sexist...I'll try a different one...
Let's say you're invited to a party, a big swanky event where all of your friends will be there, relatives, and a bunch of people important to you.
Two guys ask you...one is good looking, suave, rich, important...and he's as boring as stump and as dumb as a post. The other is smart, funny, nice...but he's poor, ugly as a troll and dresses like a hobo.
Who you going with?
I give that analogy a 3 out of 10. Try again.
Katrine
10-06-2007, 06:58 PM
OK so that it doesn't appear so sexist...I'll try a different one...
Let's say you're invited to a party, a big swanky event where all of your friends will be there, relatives, and a bunch of people important to you.
Two guys ask you...one is good looking, suave, rich, important...and he's as boring as stump and as dumb as a post.
The other is smart, funny, nice...but he's poor, ugly as a troll and dresses like a hobo.
Who you going with?
Why would I bring an ugly guy to a swanky event? Moreover, if this event is indeed "swanky", any self-respecting woman would make sure that he is dressed approriately. How he dresses outside of the event shouldn't matter.
However, if George Clooney or Clive Owen came up to me and told me I could blow them, but then they were outta there, I wouldn't take them up on the offer. However, if they wanted an evening of no-strings attached fucking, I'd be all over that.
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 07:02 PM
Kat, because he's a great guy outside of being poor and fashion-challenged. Wouldn't you rather be with a 6 who is nice than a 10 who is dull?
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 07:04 PM
keep in mind...I'm playing the devil's advocate...I see both sides of this issue.
Don't play devil's advocate. Just post your real fucking opinion and perspective.
Don't cloud up the discussion with your theories, just post your REAL beliefs and feelings and experiences.
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 07:25 PM
I have dude. I see both sides. What's the problem?
The only side you see is Mr. Hyde's side. There is no "both sides".
Yekhefah
10-06-2007, 07:31 PM
^^^ :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Mr Hyde
10-06-2007, 07:31 PM
OK then Mr Hydes side is that I can see your argument and I can see the argument of those arguing against you.
ExoticEngineer
10-06-2007, 07:42 PM
So I asked my guy, and he and I are in agreement, great sex with average girl, for sure.
He put it like this (I have to quote because I thought it summed it up so nicely)
"Why would I want to drive a Ferrari that I can't take over 20mph? I'd rather drive the VW that I can haul ass around in and have some fun. Sure, I might not look as good going down the street, but when I want to mess up a car, I usually do it private anyway"
Katrine
10-06-2007, 08:04 PM
Kat, because he's a great guy outside of being poor and fashion-challenged. Wouldn't you rather be with a 6 who is nice than a 10 who is dull?
I choose neither.
Perfect looking men who want to fuck me are a dime a dozen. Now, I'm not that special, just happen to own a vagina and an attractive, yet useless flap of skin around it, the rest of me. ;)
The tie-breaker for the above two guys would be financial generosity.
RoseWhite
10-06-2007, 08:36 PM
But an analogy which might illustrate his POV from the female perspective...
If you're a girl, would you rather spend a weekend with a rich guy who is willing to take you on a $$$ shopping spree while staying at his house in St Bart's...but he's a total bore and has no sense of humor or fun...
or a weekend at the trailer park of a poor guy who will go dutch on a case of Natty Light with you...but he's a lot of fun and a super nice guy who makes you laugh?
Just weighing in to say the latter, HANDS DOWN. "Total bore"? "No sense of humor or fun"? Oh, GOD, the shopping spree isn't nearly enough pay to tolerate that. Having a sense of humor is so high on my list, I'd even say it's number one, if it weren't for intelligence filling that spot. Fortunately, the two almost always go together. (Though I've known more smart guys who AREN'T funny than funny guys who aren't smart, but I digress.)
15 years ago, my answer might have been different, but back then I was more concerned about what others thought of me than I was about what truly made me happy. That may not hold true for others, so take that however you will.
Yekhefah
10-06-2007, 08:46 PM
I do think that Mr. Hyde's question would be better posed toward a wider representation of women than the women on this forum. We SW'ers, as a general rule, are already accustomed to mingling with both varieties of men, we tend to make our own money, and we are more sexually liberated and know ourselves better than the average woman. Not to brag, but that's the sitch. I think we would be more likely to choose the intelligent, interesting man, but your average waitress would be more easily dazzled by the rich bore.
Mastridonicus
10-06-2007, 09:34 PM
Sh0t,
Would you say you buy into the concept of sexual quantity before quality? Simply because quantity suggests that the higher the number, the more the chances you'll hit your "Jessica Alba"?
I have to admit, you always assume that it's the life, really, you go out, you meet some chick, you're honest to her within reason, you wrap it, you have sex, you go, and you rate the experience and move on. Well, really, I was there.
After reading the material you've shared, and even going through the scene to take from it what I thought, I kind of went the opposite direction and that really is DE valuing the act of sex. This isn't to say I don't register attractive women, or that I don't think about how good a chick would be in bed, hell I'm a virile male, however it's hard for me to get into the sexual mode just because she had boobs and laughs at my jokes.
I just find that life is a lot simpler if I go about it according to me. I know I can get laid tonight by a 10. What I don't know is if I can draw this image I've been thinking of, how this book ends, or what exactly these small bananas are. When I took sex off the pedestal, things just got better for me, and that's what I began to only "swing for the fences". Sexuality with me is earned, and that's kept me incredibly pleased and lucky to have had and have the partners I have and have had. Sure, there is the occasional one night stand, there's the sexual adventure ending bad...etc etc etc, I just find it a waste of time for myself to quantify and validate myself by these instances. Not projecting onto you of course, just comparing
I wont settle for good sex with women I find to be 10s. I wont settle for great sex with women I find to be 6s. I've only will aim to have amazing sex with women I find to be amazing. I make no regrets for my sexual screening.
I guess I just found that once I knew I could get laid, I spent my time trying to find things I don't know I can do.
Maybe I'm full of bullshit, who knows. Don't mean to waste a post.
ExoticEngineer
10-06-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm naming my vibrator Mastridonicus.
francescadubois
10-06-2007, 11:58 PM
I'm naming my vibrator Mastridonicus.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Hear! Hear!
Alaska
10-07-2007, 12:37 AM
:'( :'( :'( I thought this thread was about gettin yer pussy licked and how it is the GREATEST wettest time in the whole world? For me cuz it's done right? Lol no I saw the original pages...this page is just weird sounding, thas all.
Bridgette
10-07-2007, 01:08 AM
Eating pussy is not overrated, but it must be done correctly or women will bypass it
The phrase "Eating pussy" is not as sexy as men might think and that a better term is prefered
Less talking about, more doing
Porn is a bad place to learn how to perform cunnilingus
most that responded like cunnilingus coupled with digital stimulation
every guy think he's a champ at cunny but if you think so, you probably are not
Soft and rhythmic is the ideal.It's not just that we'll skip it if it's not done right. I have never encountered someone who was just mediocre at it (I think I might enjoy that briefly). It's always either really good or really fucking bad. Bad pussy-licking is one of the worst things someone can do to me sexually.
And yes, whoever said that you shouldn't change what you're doing when you've got a woman building is absolutely right. If she's clearly enjoying that particular motion, just fucking keep doing it! She'll love you for it.
I think most men need to take some serious lessons on reading female sexual response though. I can't tell you how many times some dude has apparently misread me pulling away for enjoyment ::)
Alaska
10-07-2007, 01:12 AM
^^Yea, that and pushing on it like it's a doorbell. Or using a bent finger on my clit, trying to rub it. Whatthehell? That only happened to me once amazingly, and by this guy who was 32, xtremely awesome, and had a live in gf of 3 years. How the hell does she stay with him?? No wonder they are not having sex so he wants some on the side...Oh and a LARGE ass cock. What a waste of a big cock.
Yea, it's really bad how it's either one way or the other, never as normal as the good ol bj, what's up with that? I think it's the old man/Sopranos attitude about it, still infiltrating adults today...maybe in future decades...ya know?
Djoser
10-07-2007, 01:21 AM
Don't play devil's advocate. Just post your real fucking opinion and perspective.
Don't cloud up the discussion with your theories, just post your REAL beliefs and feelings and experiences.
Here's the real deal, as far as I'm concerned...
First of all, this thread long ago stopped being about whether 'eating pussy' was overrated.
But who cares about that, this is the Lounge, and almost anything goes here.
Of much more importance--the issue of what sex is all about. Is it ego gratification? In your case, apparently so. Your most important goal in life is to fuck a thousand women. You have gladly sacrificed a five year friendship to get only one step closer to this goal--and you don't care whether the woman involved was somehow hurt or disillusioned by this. You have a 'complete collection of strippers', and you are surprised that the one black stripper among them is nice to you.
Christ, if I said that, they'd nail my ass to the wall.
All this would ordinarily make me dismiss you as just another callous, manipulative prick, using SW as a venue to troll for stripper ass. 'Troll' as in fishing, not the geeks who come here for no other reason than to piss people off.
But I sense that you are more than this, somehow--or I wouldn't be writing this now. Maybe it's the apparently genuine, friendly smile on your face in the one picture I have seen of you. I think there is good in you, but you have to drop the shallow conquest games to really find it.
The fact of the matter is, whether you want to face up to the fact or not, that women can very, very rarely have sex with someone without some form of emotional involvement. This means if you fuck a thousand women, an extremely large proportion of them are going to have feelings for you. You can claim innocence, due to your straightforward, honest approach, but this is a copout.
I try not to judge others on their actions, outside of if they are hurting themselves.
Great, fine, but when you fuck women, they are going to have an emotional reaction--they are human, after all. To ignore this reaction--so long as it doesn't hurt you, yourself--is at best callous, at worst, sociopathic.
If I can piss off a woman I have never even met, touched, seen more than a tiny picture of, heard her voice even--while trying to the best of my ability to be honest and forthright with her--just by using a an internet chat program, for chrissakes--you are going to cause a lot more emotional trauma to a lot more women by fucking them and moving on to the next trophy girl.
Honesty is not enough, to be a man, you need a conscience...
I'm not trying to condemn you, but I think you need to open your eyes.
And please, enough with the "SW Better Sex Series". We already have enough self-styled experts on the subject.
jaizaine
10-07-2007, 06:13 AM
^^
I think Djoser is being very generous in his opinions of you.
There is something seriously shallow and wrong with a person who wants to fuck people for the sake of numbers. That's just plain horrible.
I dont think you necessarily have to be in love to sleep with someone but as Djoser pointed out I certainly have to be emotionally involved with a guy to sleep with him.
There is something disturbing and psychopathic about you if you target women as hey this can be number 80. Yuck just yuck.
Mastridonicus
10-07-2007, 06:44 AM
^^
I think Djoser is being very generous in his opinions of you.
There is something seriously shallow and wrong with a person who wants to fuck people for the sake of numbers. That's just plain horrible.
I dont think you necessarily have to be in love to sleep with someone but as Djoser pointed out I certainly have to be emotionally involved with a guy to sleep with him.
There is something disturbing and psychopathic about you if you target women as hey this can be number 80. Yuck just yuck.
Well, flipping this over to the male side of the fence, I would say there's something equally disturbing about listing off all the dicks a girl has had. :D
Shallow, or whatever, our emotions easily cloud a perceived act resulting in judgment before we have sufficient proof, often because of our own reason and beliefs. The ONLY FACT is everyone is different every day, and Sh0t never once said he was being dishonest to the women he targets, or intentionally misleading/manipulating them, so we're really assuming he is simply because he talks about the "scene". He firmly believes he is NOT manipulating these women.
I understand that sometimes people get emotionally attached during sexuality, and that there may be emotional repercussions as a result of sexuality, but this is almost NEVER the case in One-Night stands, or even re-occurring fuck partners.
I'm not trying to be rude here, but telling Sh0t he's despicable because he's promiscuous is like telling Bridgette she's despicable because "she fucks who she wants when she wants and how she wants", Or you're saying that should a woman like her meet Sh0t, one of them would bare the emotional scare of their one-night sexual romp. The only difference between Sh0t's quotes and Bridgette's, is he quantifies his and scores them. Which we really don't know if Bridgette does because she's never said. (Sorry for dragging you in on this, I just see you as an equally sexually liberated female)
Hell this whole mentality, honestly? Is degrading to women. It assumes that men looking for NSA's are predators, and all women they get are being taken advantage of. These are big girls, despite how we view the act, who the fuck are we to be an authoritative white knight in the lives of people we know even LESS of and are acting out simply because Sh0t lists them off in the order of how they value to him most: Sexually. I could list tons of threads and posts of women doing the same thing and getting smoke blown up their asses by MALE posters about how "Well it's HIS problem if he didn't understand the arrangement"
*I*'ve been the damage of a very attractive woman's sexual promiscuity. I know I was hurt after she reminded me of what our relationship was. I know I was secretly hoping there would be more, yet somehow, I just can't believe that if she had posted about the ordeal here anyone would shed tear one for me. I was a consenting adult. She did not lie to me EVER. We both wanted a NSA relationship. We both wanted to see multiple people. *I* just learned the painful lesson of hoping without communicating in fear of losing something valuable.
As the Lovely Rosewhite once told me: "Out in the sun we're all wine, good conversations, chemistry, laughs, and good times. But in between the sheets we're all grunting, moaning, and howling like every other mammal out there.
jaizaine
10-07-2007, 06:48 AM
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well yeh you have a point there. It's not the high number that offends me, it's the counting I guess and yes it probably stems from my own fear of being treated like that by some guy. I was VERY promiscous when I was younger so I definately do not judge anyone on that. I just have a problem with people who don't respect other people as having emotions and feelings.
Mastridonicus
10-07-2007, 06:54 AM
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well yeh you have a point there. It's not the high number that offends me, it's the counting I guess and yes it probably stems from my own fear of being treated like that by some guy. I was VERY promiscous when I was younger so I definately do not judge anyone on that. I just have a problem with people who don't respect other people as having emotions and feelings.
Right, and there is always that fear, and I am sure I have mis-acted and been disrespectful towards a date as I am also sure Sh0t has. But we also need to see the positive sides and the learning ability. When sexuality is involved, it's such the conventional thought that there is years of love and nurturing behind the act that the approacher is TAKING something from someone, damaging them. Even more so when they use it in a personal score card. But it's out there, and men AND women need it.
jaizaine
10-07-2007, 07:02 AM
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believe me i am not conventional and have never needed to be in a long term relationship to get in the sack but I have always hoped at least that the guy who I am sleeping with is sleeping with me not just to add another notch on the belt but because there is a mutual attraction and a chemistry there that drives him to want to sleep with me.
The mere thought that a guy would write a review on me in bed is pretty frightening too LOL
Mastridonicus
10-07-2007, 07:08 AM
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believe me i am not conventional and have never needed to be in a long term relationship to get in the sack but I have always hoped at least that the guy who I am sleeping with is sleeping with me not just to add another notch on the belt but because there is a mutual attraction and a chemistry there that drives him to want to sleep with me.
The mere thought that a guy would write a review on me in bed is pretty frightening too LOL
EXACTLY! See that is EXACTLY my point. Because you make a conscious decision to not be that, you'd almost immediately walk from a man trying to pick you up displaying those signs. However, one night, you might be horny out of your skull and go off craigslist for some action (citing a respected Yekhefah's act during a high horny time). You're an adult, you can make these decisions, you don't need me to come running in and tell you "YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER NOTCH" because you just might not care that time.
And that's why I can easily believe that, though callous in his presentation, Sh0t isn't necessarily hurting anyone intentionally. At least, I can believe in the situation as he described it can be a healthy one that hurts no one. I OBVIOUSLY can't be 100%