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ajbaer
10-02-2007, 06:29 PM
LOL... he sewed a doberman pillow for his mother..just kidding
He knows some sewing, and he does the dishes, and makes dinner, and lets the dog out, and goes to work on time, and keeps his job and buys me things....oh and tells me I'm the most beautiful girl in the world.
I'd have to say he's a keeper!

FBR
10-02-2007, 06:45 PM
He sounds like a jewel. Not only can he sew and cook, I bet he doesn't have an X-Box or play a guitar poorly. Why haven't you hog tied him and taken him to the preacher? He might get away if you're not careful, you know ;)

FBR

ajbaer
10-02-2007, 06:50 PM
He has a ps2 and LOVES it...he is addicted to the computer as well. I can handle those things though :)
We're getting married...whenever. Neither of us are in a hurry, and we're not worried about one or the other getting away. Besides we own a home together now. Scary! I never thought I'd own a home when I was 24.

FBR
10-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Well, a PS2 is different...special dispensation. And you didn't respond regarding him being a musician wannabe...and he is employed. So I think you have established yourself as being in the upper percentile.

But I gotta say. It really bothers me that you two are living in sin. I mean, that's just not right. You really should get married.

FBR

Mastridonicus
10-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Hi custies... I just wanted to let ya'll know a new rule that I have made for myself.

I will never, ever, EVER, EVER dance for a customer who comes in to a club wearing shorts or sweatpants. Not the fleece, nylon, tricot, or jersey varieties.

It is fucking disgusting.
I know I have to give you a lap dance but I don't want feel your junk like you're wearing "nothing at all"!

I don't care how soft or smooth they are, I don't care how much cash you have in your sweatpant pocket. It's still nasty as hell and you're a scumbag for wearing them.

If the club won't make you adhere to a dress code I will ensure that you will never receive a dance from me. Maybe some girls are okay with your shit poking out from between a few microns of stretch nylon poly-blend. I think that self respecting chicks wouldn't let you near them.

Sweatpants put a neon sign on your head flashing "I want to feel pussy as much as possible... I want to fucking cum from a $20 lap dance... I am a cheap prick who has no respect for women... I can't afford a hooker so I try and get the 'most' action/friction/etc."

Don't even get me started on customers who wear sweatpants after working out at a gym and smelling like nasty fucking workout sweaty B.O. !

Dress well. Don't be a dick.

*Turns around, and begins to drive back home* :'(

CalifSCVisitor65
10-02-2007, 09:12 PM
The regular shorts are an interesting question. There have been times in 110 degree summer heat in Vegas or 90 degree with 100% humidity in Miami and I was already out and wasn't interested in going back to the hotel to change.

I've even apologized to dancers beforehand for wearing shorts and I don't think anyones ever turned me down before. And yes I do have hairy legs. :-[

Sophia_Starina
10-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Actually, I think this is a great thread even though the topic has been discussed many times before. I have numerous pairs of sweats and slinky shorts in my closet and I appreciate a dancer reminding me never to wear them to the club. I get confused on what to wear if the labels don't match so the advise is really helpful. Also, it makes me feel good inside that a dancer would post a rant thread here in Customer Conversation rather than in Stripping General. I mean, the attention and tutelage is really appreciated.

FBR


With all due respect, FBR, posting this in stripping general would be pretty useless. Dancers can commiserate till the cows come home and still some guys might be under the impression that we want to dance for guys in sweats. I wanted actual customers to read my thoughts. More than a few girls have agreed with me on this topic and maybe some sweat-pant wearing jerks can get a clue from reading this thread. I'm not attacking normal guys. I'm just attacking pervs who wear sweats to a place that is obviously not meant for that attire.
The shorts thing was an after thought. Britt prodded and prodded me about it, and the shorts issue got more play then I actually intended. The thread is titled true to my heart. If you come to my club in sweat pants, I (and maybe a few hotties like myself) will turn you down.

Crow2
10-02-2007, 11:06 PM
but.. how does shorts=him poking you. she said ANY type of shorts. im not talking about basketball shorts or anything swishy or something. jean shorts or khaki shorts are not ok with her. that is what i dont understand.

I said the shorts were okay, thats fine - unless he spills beer or a drink on himself. Then no.

If she dosent want to dance for guys that wear shorts. Who cares. Thats her choice

britt244
10-02-2007, 11:07 PM
The shorts thing was an after thought. Britt prodded and prodded me about it, and the shorts issue got more play then I actually intended. The thread is titled true to my heart. If you come to my club in sweat pants, I (and maybe a few hotties like myself) will turn you down.

omg. no, i didnt. i said that i dont get it. that seems weird to me. my point was that lumping sweatpants and shorts into the same category & thread seemed odd.

britt244
10-02-2007, 11:08 PM
I said the shorts were okay, thats fine - unless he spills beer or a drink on himself. Then no.

If she dosent want to dance for guys that wear shorts. Who cares. Thats her choice

um yeah but when i said i didnt understand it, you responded saying that nobody wants to feel boners poking them. which doesnt apply to normal shorts. which was what i was talking about.

Kaylinn
10-02-2007, 11:39 PM
Why turn them down? Why not just airdance them?

There are very very few reasons I will ever turn down money being offered to me. I absolutly despise guys in sweatpants, or basketball shorts. I have "fallen" and crashed on their boners before.

I will not approach guys wearing thoes types of pants, but if they approach me and ask me to dance for me....it's like found money! Money I didn't have to hustle for. Easy money. I have a hard time turning down garunteed cash.

But I will give them an airdance. I may rub my body on their chest, or touch their chest, but I will avoid their crotch area like the plague. sometimes...these guys will ask for a second dance, hoping still that I will have a seat and they will get some action, sometimes they realize I'm hopeless and won't want a second dance, and they move on to find better pray.

Either way, I have $20 or more in my pocket, for 3 minutes of dancing in front of a guy.


But I do agree that sweats or basketball shorts should never, ever been worn in a srtip club. It screams nasty pervert. I will avoid people wearing thoes types of clothes.
Regular shorts do not bother me. It is Vegas, it's hot, we have a lot of tourists.

Callyish
10-02-2007, 11:44 PM
its not desperate to dance for any guy that comes your way... and i just dont understand how its disrespectful to wear shorts. people are talking abotu dressing like youre on a date.. no way! why should you? then we turn around and complain that guys think we're really into them blah blah blah.. are we never happy?


Thank You.

Some guys are coming into the club from work for a beer or whatever before going back to their wives.

If dude is wearing icky pants then don't sit on his lap *shrug*

I dunno maybe its cuz I work in a lot of blue collar bars that I don't really pay second thought to it.

FTR... I was too lazy to read the rest of this thread I just had to throw my POV into it lol

*waddles back out of thread eyeing the clock seeing its 4am and she should be sleeping*

ruru123
10-03-2007, 12:01 AM
i agree with if your wearing sweat pants, track pants or anything thin where i can feel your package poking me then ur getting an airdance, i won't turn you down, but i won't come near u or your crotch.

as for shorts, im 50-50 with that one, if they're some nice casual shorts, then fine, yes i hate feeling ur hairy legs on mine, but ill deal. if they're sports shorts then the same rule applys with the sweatpants. i had a custy's pasty ass boner come out the side of his shorts once, ewww! thank god i saw it before i sat on it with my bare butt!

all in all, don't try to get ur kicks by wearing sweats to the strip club, most of us know wassup, and u'll get a sucky dance. in turn you loose!

needtodance
10-03-2007, 12:27 AM
I avoid too much contact with customers wearing shorts of ANY type. Had it happen one too many times that even in normal jean shorts, their package has "accidentally slipped out the leghole"(though i have yet to sit on it, thankfully!)

Will gladly dance for them, but dont think i'm NOT watching for the moment that it happens...

And yuck for being poked by nearly-exposed with one layer of silky fabric boners.

dangerousdiva
10-03-2007, 06:31 AM
Just wear some frigg'n underwear!

God, some guy came in tonight and was wearing nice slacks, nice shirt and a tie. Gave him a dance only to discover, that slacks are just as thin, if not thinner than sweatpants! EWEEEEEE!!!! Great Disguise...immediate air dance!

RoseWhite
10-03-2007, 07:30 AM
With all due respect, FBR, posting this in stripping general would be pretty useless. Dancers can commiserate till the cows come home and still some guys might be under the impression that we want to dance for guys in sweats. I wanted actual customers to read my thoughts. More than a few girls have agreed with me on this topic and maybe some sweat-pant wearing jerks can get a clue from reading this thread.

Right. Isn't communicating with customers the entire point of this section? In fact, given how relatively few male responses we've had, I'd venture to guess that we have more than a few guilty blue-ribboned parties around who don't want to fess up. But maybe they'll think about it next time . . . So, mission accomplished. Perhaps we've learned and grown. :)

Since we're discussing the difference between sweatpants and shorts: I'm completely on board with the anti-sweats movement, and that includes thin basketball shorts and athletic short shorts of any kind. But during the summer, or in warm areas, things like khaki or bermuda shorts are okay (with underwear, it should go without saying). I don't think those are really the issue. It's truly not that difficult to see the difference unless you insist on being contentious.

doc-catfish
10-03-2007, 09:57 AM
I'd venture to guess that we have more than a few guilty blue-ribboned parties around who don't want to fess up. But maybe they'll think about it next time . . . So, mission accomplished. Perhaps we've learned and grown. :)
I'd venture to guess most of the blue-ribboned parties were either apparel compliant to begin with, or are just going to be more encouraged than ever to wear their perv attire to the club. I mean, its not like the guys in the latter group need the SW seal of approval to find a girl to give them a lap dance.

But hey, its just a message board. Whatever works. :)

CalifSCVisitor65
10-03-2007, 09:04 PM
Regular shorts do not bother me. It is Vegas, it's hot, we have a lot of tourists.

Thank you. 8)

Jay Zeno
10-03-2007, 09:53 PM
I don't know about absence of answers being evidence of a guilty conscience. When I saw the first posting, I thought, "Huh, as if I'd ever wear sweatpants or gym shorts out on the street," and felt no need to respond. It was when the dress slacks and shorts issue came up, because the views of those are not consistent.

FBR
10-03-2007, 10:00 PM
Right. Isn't communicating with customers the entire point of this section? In fact, given how relatively few male responses we've had, I'd venture to guess that we have more than a few guilty blue-ribboned parties around who don't want to fess up. But maybe they'll think about it next time . . . So, mission accomplished. Perhaps we've learned and grown. :)


Well, technically, the purpose of this section is to give customers a place to ask questions of dancers. You know, like what body spray you use or how do you spend your time when you're not dancing. Questions like that. CC's really not supposed to be a lecture hall. I know lectures can spontaneously erupt but one can hope that threads are not started with that intent.

I am also surprised at the dearth of male responses. Maybe it is a collective guilty conscious knowing that we all have several pairs of sweats and slinky shorts hidden in the dark recesses of our closets. Or it could be that the topic has been beaten to death already. I'm afraid to guess.

FBR

RandomUser
10-03-2007, 10:15 PM
There's money to be made in this problem.

Movie placement. "Strippers prefer Haggars" "Armani and you are special"

You should get double click ads for your websites. It's a perfect place to pitch pants. I can't think of a better one.

Flick6
10-03-2007, 11:20 PM
He sounds like a jewel. Not only can he sew and cook, I bet he doesn't have an X-Box or play a guitar poorly. Why haven't you hog tied him and taken him to the preacher? He might get away if you're not careful, you know ;)

FBR

Fuck ur funny :) "chuckles over x-boxes and try hard musos"

Darcy Foxx
10-04-2007, 12:09 AM
i don't have an issue with shorts. but maybe that's because my club has shitty air conditioning and is like a fucking sauna in summer, and even walking around in lingerie makes me break out in an extreme sweat because it's so hot in there. hell, if i was a customer i'd be wearing shorts too.

but yeah, those thin, slippery sweatpants are gross. i don't think people would be allowed into my club wearing that anyway.

lestat1
10-04-2007, 05:36 AM
Right. Isn't communicating with customers the entire point of this section? In fact, given how relatively few male responses we've had, I'd venture to guess that we have more than a few guilty blue-ribboned parties around who don't want to fess up. But maybe they'll think about it next time . . . So, mission accomplished. Perhaps we've learned and grown. :).

Well I'd never wear sweat pants or gym shorts out in public. I don't even wear jeans ever. I wear khakis to BBQs for crying out loud. :P

That, and I'm biting my tongue while I try to figure out how the perviness or cluelessness of wearing sweat pants warrants the gleeful application of permanent, debilitating injury.

Jenny
10-04-2007, 06:13 AM
Well I'd never wear sweat pants or gym shorts out in public. I don't even wear jeans ever. I wear khakis to BBQs for crying out loud. :P

That, and I'm biting my tongue while I try to figure out how the perviness or cluelessness of wearing sweat pants warrants the gleeful application of permanent, debilitating injury.
Well try looking at it this way: if you don't care about making us uncomfortable, why should we care about making you uncomfortable?

People shouldn't be wearing sweatpants in public. I mean, I'm not a "what not to wear" nazi, but I feel comfortable saying the only place they are suitable attire is at the gym, on a run or at the laundromat.

Although, like I said - perversion looks good on some of my customers. But not most.

Lola Rose
10-04-2007, 07:42 AM
.

An interesting question of course would be if this shorts/sweatpants issue would be a mute one in a no/minimal contact club, or one where the dancer covers the customer's lap with a blanket?.

yep. pretty minimal. Frankly,. I don't care what my customers wear, I'd rather them be comfortable. I think a confortable customer is a lot more likely to spend big $$ then someone who tried to dress nicer then he is accostomed to. The comfortable custy is also going to be more relaxed and happy. if sweats do that for you, ok :)

Just bathe (in water, not cologne) and bring cash, I'll be a happy girl :)

I'd also like to say that a reg I used to have, who was a BIG spender, always wore sweats. hell I would too if I had that kinda cash ;)

Sophia_Starina
10-04-2007, 07:59 AM
If I worked in a no-contact club where air dances were standard fare I wouldn't give a rats hoo-ha what guys wore. But if I must grind up on you then I will do it to those that deserve that sort of attention from me. And yes, clothing matters.

cinammonkisses
10-04-2007, 08:04 AM
There is a guy who comes in my club who wears sweats or basketball shorts. I usually do dances for him, but I'm to the point where now, shit it just isn't worth it.

Crow2
10-04-2007, 10:54 AM
What's even worse are those fleece shorts, athletic shorts or fleece sweats that have been "altered" to be shorts. Ugh.

Lola Rose
10-04-2007, 11:19 AM
I must say, it's threads like this that make me especially appreciative to dance in a minimal contact club ;D

Mastridonicus
10-04-2007, 02:47 PM
4 PAGES!

How is this not littered with "uhhhh DUH"

lestat1
10-04-2007, 04:25 PM
Well try looking at it this way: if you don't care about making us uncomfortable, why should we care about making you uncomfortable?


Calling the act of slamming into a guy's boner so that it breaks and he has permanent ED "uncomfortable" is a bit of an understatement, don't you think?

And to answer your rhetorical question, because that's how it works in the service industries. I know it sucks. It's one of the many reasons why I'm so glad to be out of retail.

Jenny
10-04-2007, 04:56 PM
Okay.
a) I'm going to go on ahead and disagree with you. I think this is one of those situations in which stripping differs from other areas of the service industry (insofar as the wearing of sweats doesn't have a similar impact when you are, for example, getting a hair cut). I don't think it is okay to sexually harass or exploit me just because I'm in the service industry. (Before anyone says "That's your job" - no it's not.) And I will say again that if you treat people with disrespect they will give it back - service industry workers or not. I don't know where you are that you think you are entitled to treat servers like sub-human trash, not deserving of human dignity, but that is not a sentiment I share, and certainly not a position I intend to adopt for myself.
b) Has anyone mentioned permanent damage? Or have they mentioned ephemeral discomfort? I'm asking - the posts I read didn't mention "and I saw him next week, and he was still in a dick-cast!!! :O " It seemed more "and then he said "Ow" and I thought "serves you right, Pervy!"
And do have any idea how hard it is to tear the membrane of an erection? It's not easy. It's not something that is likely to happen because a dancer stumbles, accidentally or not, or every time a guy directed his penis wrong he'd need emergency attention.

lestat1
10-04-2007, 05:43 PM
Hey now, I never said that's how *I* treat service industry workers. I would offer that most employers of service industry workers, and far too many customers, do feel that a certain level of exploitation and abuse is part of the job. Hopefully expectations have changed since I worked retail, but when I did, customers would yell at me, be obnoxiously rude, etc., and I was expected to shut up, smile, be polite, and take it. And I did, everytime. I hated it. Obviously retail work of the kind I did and dancing are light years apart; in this case it sounds like I'm drawing a distinction between merely wearing sweatpants, where I think the label sexual harassment is a stretch, and wearing shorts in order to whip it out, where sexual harassment is a fitting label (puns very much intended) and not something one should be expected to put up with. That being said, vigilante justice is still a very tough sell with me.

Rockette
10-04-2007, 05:46 PM
I give air dances to guys who wear sweatpants. No jeans/kahkis/dress pants... no contact.

cameron_keys
10-04-2007, 06:35 PM
in this case it sounds like I'm drawing a distinction between merely wearing sweatpants, where I think the label sexual harassment is a stretch, and wearing shorts in order to whip it out, where sexual harassment is a fitting label (puns very much intended) and not something one should be expected to put up with. That being said, vigilante justice is still a very tough sell with me.

I've seen many guys who wear sweats or track pants SPECIFICALLY because they are thinner and will thus feel more like skin on skin contact when getting a friction dance. They then proceed to do things like buck their hips, press harder into you, grab your hips to get you to press harder.....it really does border if not qualify for sexual assault. I'm not talking about some clueless guy wearing sweats ina club...these guys know EXACTLY what they are doing and do it for a reason.

They deserve to have me "trip" on their nutsack. They are actually very lucky I dont just knee them in the crotch as hard as I can.

Jenny
10-05-2007, 12:02 AM
Hey now, I never said that's how *I* treat service industry workers. I would offer that most employers of service industry workers, and far too many customers, do feel that a certain level of exploitation and abuse is part of the job. Hopefully expectations have changed since I worked retail, but when I did, customers would yell at me, be obnoxiously rude, etc., and I was expected to shut up, smile, be polite, and take it. And I did, everytime. I hated it. Obviously retail work of the kind I did and dancing are light years apart; in this case it sounds like I'm drawing a distinction between merely wearing sweatpants, where I think the label sexual harassment is a stretch, and wearing shorts in order to whip it out, where sexual harassment is a fitting label (puns very much intended) and not something one should be expected to put up with. That being said, vigilante justice is still a very tough sell with me.
Well, there you go. My experience in the service industry has given me a heightened sympathy with my non-strippy colleagues and poor working conditions that they might have to suffer and not a "you should have to put up with everything I put up with" attitude. Maybe this is a boy/girl thing? Vigilante justice is not the point (although I might question what kind of justice should be levied? Officer! Arrest that man for being an unpalatable pervert!); the point is simply what I said before - if you treat people with disrespect they will not respect you in return. In a bar you might get a drink "accidentally" spilled on you. In a stripclub, you might get a stripper falling on your junk. Maybe the best way to avoid such outcomes is, instead of criticizing the servers for not smilingly tolerating every nasty encounter that comes their way, simply not being a nasty douche in the first place?

jaizaine
10-05-2007, 12:25 AM
I have just discovered this thread.

I am sooooooooo grateful that my club has a strict dress code. They wont let guys in in shorts or runners. It has to be neat casual so I have not encountered anyone wearing sweatpants thankfully.

I find it so disgusting that these creeps have actually come there with the premeditated intent to get as much friction as possible. it actually makes me feel sick. Go pay for sex you losers!

What sort of loser would want to blow his load in his pants and then sit in his own icky mess? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

I always appreciate a nicely dressed, nice smelling customer.

In the SC it pays to be respectful and not be a perve. The same thing goes for the grabby losers, they dont know what they are missing by not allowing the dancer to feel safe from being grabbed and take the lead.

lestat1
10-05-2007, 05:46 AM
Well, there you go. My experience in the service industry has given me a heightened sympathy with my non-strippy colleagues and poor working conditions that they might have to suffer and not a "you should have to put up with everything I put up with" attitude. Maybe this is a boy/girl thing? Vigilante justice is not the point (although I might question what kind of justice should be levied? Officer! Arrest that man for being an unpalatable pervert!); the point is simply what I said before - if you treat people with disrespect they will not respect you in return. In a bar you might get a drink "accidentally" spilled on you. In a stripclub, you might get a stripper falling on your junk. Maybe the best way to avoid such outcomes is, instead of criticizing the servers for not smilingly tolerating every nasty encounter that comes their way, simply not being a nasty douche in the first place?

Whipping it out is indecent exposure, to say nothing of all the charges that could result from unwanted physical contact. They are crimes and actual justice can be levied. But people being people, walking away from an awful situation and pursuing a legal remedy isn't as satisfying as taking revenge into their own hands.

Not being a nasty douche in the first place is a good way to avoid such outcomes, the vast majority of the time. There will always be grey areas and misunderstandings, which is why vigilante justice is such a bad idea.

Crow2
10-05-2007, 10:20 AM
Well I'd never wear sweat pants or gym shorts out in public. I don't even wear jeans ever. I wear khakis to BBQs for crying out loud. :P

That, and I'm biting my tongue while I try to figure out how the perviness or cluelessness of wearing sweat pants warrants the gleeful application of permanent, debilitating injury.


Your serious right?

About some Joe blow wearing some sort of clothing so a strip club, because firstly he's much to cowardly to bite the bullet and pay a prostitute - Secondly, because he's wearing what he's wearing he's expecting to get off. Yes dear, they do that and have told me thats why they wore what they wore.

This indicates to me, cheapness. So why bother, the dance is going to be difficult - and if the guy does manage to get off. I'll be left with a mess and no tip for my effort.

Secondly, this man is not a nice person. So why would I want to spend time with (a) Someone who is going to be difficult and (b) I already know from personal experience it's not going to be to my advantage.

I take enough crap. if and when someone dressed in that fashion asks me for a dance.. I'm thinking to myself, Ooooh boy, here we go and if he misbehaves.

Yes, I will do everything in my power to make him as miserable as he's making me.

Taylorlila
10-05-2007, 10:24 AM
Usually you can tell pretty early into the dance if he choose his clothes "on purpose". I have danced for guys in windpants that were perfectly respectful, and just got out of work or something. Usually they wore them on purpose though, but those guys will grab you, pull you into them, try to grind on you....all that gross stuff. They're alos the kind of guys that ask if youre a "dirty" girl.

cameron_keys
10-05-2007, 12:16 PM
Whipping it out is indecent exposure, to say nothing of all the charges that could result from unwanted physical contact. They are crimes and actual justice can be levied. But people being people, walking away from an awful situation and pursuing a legal remedy isn't as satisfying as taking revenge into their own hands.


HA. Yeah..and I'm SURE the cops and justive system would side with a stripper complaining that a guy was pervy with her....::)

No..in a strip club there is OUR justice, or no justice. The outside world doesnt really care.

PHXFan
10-05-2007, 12:33 PM
I used to joke with the girls about "Sweatpant Sundays" and "Trackpant Tuesdays", and the losers that came in wearing said apparel. They got nothin', at least from the girls I knew...

lestat1
10-05-2007, 04:21 PM
HA. Yeah..and I'm SURE the cops and justive system would side with a stripper complaining that a guy was pervy with her....::)

No..in a strip club there is OUR justice, or no justice. The outside world doesnt really care.

I know how unfair the justice system would be about it...but if no one ever tries, it'll just stay unfair. Like the old expression: "All that's necessary for evil to triumph is for a few good people to do nothing."

lestat1
10-05-2007, 04:26 PM
Your serious right?

About some Joe blow wearing some sort of clothing so a strip club, because firstly he's much to cowardly to bite the bullet and pay a prostitute - Secondly, because he's wearing what he's wearing he's expecting to get off. Yes dear, they do that and have told me thats why they wore what they wore.

This indicates to me, cheapness. So why bother, the dance is going to be difficult - and if the guy does manage to get off. I'll be left with a mess and no tip for my effort.

Secondly, this man is not a nice person. So why would I want to spend time with (a) Someone who is going to be difficult and (b) I already know from personal experience it's not going to be to my advantage.

I take enough crap. if and when someone dressed in that fashion asks me for a dance.. I'm thinking to myself, Ooooh boy, here we go and if he misbehaves.

Yes, I will do everything in my power to make him as miserable as he's making me.

Yes, I totally understand why you'd not want to dance for them. And if you decided to anyway, it seems prudent to demand getting paid upfront. That way when they go uber-pervy on you, you can simply walk away. Seems a lot healthier and more lucrative to me than the vengeance approach. *That* was the part of this thread that I didn't understand. It's like: (A) Money and walk away if need be so you don't have to deal with it, or (B) Risk money, attack someone, and risk a violent situation and/or jail time. Hmmm...that's a toughie. :D

cameron_keys
10-05-2007, 04:29 PM
. *That* was the part of this thread that I didn't understand. It's like: (A) Money and walk away if need be so you don't have to deal with it, or (B) Risk money, attack someone, and risk a violent situation and/or jail time. Hmmm...that's a toughie. :D


Because unless you have (and take) the time to get to know the guy beforehand...you dont know for sure if he is just clueless or is truly a perv who will attack you. Personally, I prefer to not punish someone until he has given me reason to. If you are going to sexually assault me though...I will assault back.

And I'm not calling the cops. Thats just ridiculous. 1)the cops wont care 2) the club will get pissed if I draw police attention for such a minor thing and 3) guys(at least here) do shit like this ALL the time. What am I going to do...have cops out to the club 20 times a day? Sorry...it's not an option.

But if you grab my hips and try to jam your clothed dick into my crotch....you deserve whatever I do to you.
And no guy will call the cops either so I'm not at ALL worried about trouble! No jail time for what anyway? HE tripped ME....

And any guy who dared to do anything back wouldnt get very far without my bouncers beating him bloody. So yeah...I'm not worried. Never had any issues in almost 7 years with it.

lestat1
10-05-2007, 04:58 PM
That's vigilante justice, but then, I also think the Batman character is a criminal who belongs in jail. So that tells you something about my draconian personality on the subject of vigilante justice. Most people are more lenient about it than me. I just don't know how a person looks at the flawed but nonetheless brilliant legal system that we have and says: "Nah, I know better than they all do. I'll decide on my own what other people deserve, and I'll dish it out too." What if everyone did that? What if people did that to you? What if I did that to the dancer who ripped me off a few months ago? Am I the only one who thinks this sort of thing leads to mass chaos and suffering? :O

cameron_keys
10-05-2007, 05:00 PM
Its actually legal here to meet force with force. So no legal issues for me.

And it isnt vigilante justice so much as it's self defense....

Sophia_Starina
10-05-2007, 05:01 PM
Hahahaha Cameron! Theres no better way to rile guys than to threaten them with penis injury!

http://gwally.com/avatars/photos/penis_x_ray_150.jpg

lestat1
10-05-2007, 05:06 PM
Ahhh, where I am in New York state, you can only use force to prevent impending force, and then only if escape is not an option. Here, hitting someone just because they hit you will land both people in jail.

EDIT: I should clarify. You're not required to flee your home. You may stand your ground there, but anywhere else you must attempt escape before using force. And then it's only self-defense when used to prevent an attack, not as a reaction. I think Florida has a "stand your ground" law, where you're not required to attempt escape, no matter where you are.