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Yekhefah
10-05-2007, 05:33 PM
^^^ That's the most retarded fucking thing I've ever heard. If someone's attacking you, fight the hell back. I can't believe there are laws that would punish you for not trying hard enough to get away first. How would they prove that, anyway?

lestat1
10-05-2007, 05:49 PM
Yek, the idea behind it is that a human being is a valuable thing, even when they're a bad/criminal person. If you start with that line of thought, then running away to escape danger is always better than using force to escape danger. In either case the victim is safe, but in the escape scenario, so is the criminal. People, even the bad ones, not being hurt is supposed to be a good thing. If you're in a situation where you're not likely to be able to get away, or there's no time, or you can't, or trying to run will just get you hurt more, etc., then you (or anyone else who sees you being attacked for that matter) is perfectly allowed under NYS law to use force. The idea is that if your choices are escape or fight, you must choose escape. If your choice is fight or get hurt, then by all means fight back.

IMHO, it's brilliant. The goal here is to protect the inncoent victims first, and the criminals second, but to protect *people* as much as possible. How a society treats its criminals speaks volumes about the character of that society.

cameron_keys
10-05-2007, 06:04 PM
Yes FL has a stand your ground law. You are not required to flee and can meet any force with force. It is actually legal to shoot to kill here if you are threatened.

These guys are actually pretty lucky I dont carry in the club!

FBR
10-05-2007, 06:11 PM
Fuck ur funny :) "chuckles over x-boxes and try hard musos"

You're really cute for saying so. I guess I am humorous every once in a while. But be careful who you hitch your star to. I'm not well liked around here. The only thing that has saved me thus far is my purple stars.

FBR

Crow2
10-05-2007, 07:00 PM
Yes FL has a stand your ground law. You are not required to flee and can meet any force with force. It is actually legal to shoot to kill here if you are threatened.

These guys are actually pretty lucky I dont carry in the club!

That is the exact reason I don't take my weapon into work.. I did know a chick who use to pack a little derringer in her boot.

Silverback
10-05-2007, 07:18 PM
I think Florida has a "stand your ground" law, where you're not required to attempt escape, no matter where you are.

I think Texas has a "you can shoot your wife if you come home and find her in bed with another guy" law, but divorce is probably still a better answer.

kitana
10-06-2007, 01:17 AM
We talk a lot about boundaries on SW. Setting them and sticking with them. Doing only what you deem to be comfortable.

I personally don't feel comfortable dancing for someone who is wearing shorts. I think it's disrespectful to me. I don't want to feel a strange guys nasty leg hair against my skin. I'm not being a snob, nor am I being very desperate to dance for any guy that comes my way. I know that I will give a better dance to a guy who dresses appropriately.

You aren't my lover, you aren't my boyfriend, or even my friend. I want to keep the skin/skin contact to a minimum.


No offense, but I hope you never come to my club then. You would starve in the summer by your personal boundaries. Too many guys come in off the course or the river in shorts, and they all have (the guys I am thinking of) mad cash.

If I refused to dance for anyone but custys wearing dress suits, I would starve, lol...

Sweats, I will still dance for ya, but it's damn near an air dance.

Phil-W
10-06-2007, 04:15 AM
Not too much doubt from reading this thread that a large percentage of dancers are grossed out by guys wearing sweatpants.

I don't have too much doubt either that many guys who come in wearing them know exactly what they're doing.

What I do wonder is, do they convince themselves that dancers won't understand their motives, or won't mind if they do turn up wearing sweatpants?

Also, given that most venues contain dancers with a wide variety of attitudes, etc, I presume that some dancers are accommodating 'Mr Sweatpants'.

Phil.

AlexxaHex
10-06-2007, 05:05 AM
I think Texas has a "you can shoot your wife if you come home and find her in bed with another guy" law, but divorce is probably still a better answer.

What I heard was that it's legal to kill them both, but only if you shoot them both in the head at the same time...like the bullet penetrates one skull and then another? That can't be right. But it's an interesting visual.

britt244
10-06-2007, 10:08 AM
Not too much doubt from reading this thread that a large percentage of dancers are grossed out by guys wearing sweatpants.

I don't have too much doubt either that many guys who come in wearing them know exactly what they're doing.

What I do wonder is, do they convince themselves that dancers won't understand their motives, or won't mind if they do turn up wearing sweatpants?

Also, given that most venues contain dancers with a wide variety of attitudes, etc, I presume that some dancers are accommodating 'Mr Sweatpants'.

Phil.

we are dirty whores who are there to get them off. if they think they want to get off, they think that is what we're there for. therefore they wouldnt think that we'd think anything of it.

Sophia_Starina
10-06-2007, 10:15 AM
I hate that sweatpant guys really think that they can be sneaky and get one over on us dancers. It's like they believe in their hearts that we have no clue why they wear that sort of clothing. Yuck...

I duno what grosses me out more, their ultra visible woodies or the workings of their minds.

occasional visitor
10-06-2007, 06:07 PM
we are dirty whores who are there to get them off. if they think they want to get off, they think that is what we're there for. therefore they wouldnt think that we'd think anything of it.

I'm not really sure that is a fair assessment. I agree that some of them are there to get off and think that is ok. Some of them are there to get off and know it isn't ok. I do agree that plenty of them do it without knowing it isn't right. I think many of those are just ignorant.

I know my first time in vegas i wore basketball shorts to a strip club. It was in the summer and it was damn hot and wearing shorts was nothing more than part of how i was dealing with the weather that day.

Mastridonicus
10-06-2007, 09:50 PM
I duno what grosses me out more, their ultra visible woodies or the workings of their minds.

It's the frequency you have to deal with the juvenile machinations that couple with the complete disregard for and assumption that you're a complete idiot that you have to worry about. Since it's growing, exponentially.

I say dance for the next guy, just sew a set mouse trap on the back of your g-string, so when he trips it...SMACK.

White & Nerdy
10-07-2007, 11:01 AM
I don't see why you would want to wear sweatpants to a strip club. There's no pockets to hold your money! Where are you going to put your dollar bills -- down your pants?

Sweatpants should be reserved for exercising, not going out to the club. It's like going to a nightclub with sweatpants -- bad idea.

Besides, I live in Florida. It's too hot most of the year to wear sweatpants anyway! :)

Bob_Loblaw
10-07-2007, 11:36 AM
I don't see why you would want to wear sweatpants to a strip club. There's no pockets to hold your money! Where are you going to put your dollar bills -- down your pants?

Two words: Fanny Pack.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l47/hayhay5112005/fannypack.jpg

PuertoRicanPinup
10-07-2007, 02:06 PM
Every year my club has a Halloween party. One year a dancer dressed up as a dirty customer, she had those swishy gym shorts and had a dildo sticking out of it!

FBR
10-07-2007, 02:10 PM
Every year my club has a Halloween party. One year a dancer dressed up as a dirty customer, she had those swishy gym shorts and had a dildo sticking out of it!

You are making light of what apparently is a serious issue amongst the dancers here. I mean, you are assuming a sense of humor.

FBR

lestat1
10-07-2007, 03:33 PM
...and wearing shorts in order to whip it out, where sexual harassment is a fitting label (puns very much intended)

Nothing? Not even a chuckle? From anyone?

It has been 3 days and I'm still cracking myself up over that. I managed to use the clothing terms 'fitting' and 'label' in a thread about sweatpants. Puns of this level don't just happen y'know...

Sectumsempra
10-07-2007, 06:14 PM
I don't see why you would want to wear sweatpants to a strip club. There's no pockets to hold your money! Where are you going to put your dollar bills -- down your pants?

Sweatpants should be reserved for exercising, not going out to the club. It's like going to a nightclub with sweatpants -- bad idea.

Besides, I live in Florida. It's too hot most of the year to wear sweatpants anyway! :)

My sweatpants have pockets.

James Bond
10-07-2007, 06:56 PM
Nothing? Not even a chuckle? From anyone?

It has been 3 days and I'm still cracking myself up over that. I managed to use the clothing terms 'fitting' and 'label' in a thread about sweatpants. Puns of this level don't just happen y'know...


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AznExtasy
10-07-2007, 07:05 PM
Please don't be giving the creeps lurking here any more ideas next time they go into the club, thanks.

Andygirl
10-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Every year my club has a Halloween party. One year a dancer dressed up as a dirty customer, she had those swishy gym shorts and had a dildo sticking out of it!

That's fucking funny. I wonder if the guys got it?

This thread came to mind on Friday night when it seemed like every guy I talked to and danced for was wearing shorts. Seriously, I couldn't have avoided them and still made money. I am soooooo ready for the colder weather to get here. NO MORE SHORTS!

(And I don't know if I've said this before or not, but if I see a guy wearing sweatpants in public I'm just going to assume he's a brokeass loser anyway. There's nothing approachable about a nasty slob wearing sweats. Barf.)

velvet
10-08-2007, 05:34 AM
My sweatpants have pockets.

the better to play pocket pool with

Sophia_Starina
10-08-2007, 09:26 AM
Every year my club has a Halloween party. One year a dancer dressed up as a dirty customer, she had those swishy gym shorts and had a dildo sticking out of it!


Hahahaha, that is funny.

ironmaidern
10-09-2007, 08:40 PM
I'd come into the club just wearing my socks if I could get away with it! Don't wear the sweatpants? Hah!

PuertoRicanPinup
10-10-2007, 07:32 AM
That's fucking funny. I wonder if the guys got it?



The party is just for dancers and employees & one guest each. ;D

Sophia_Starina
10-11-2007, 09:05 AM
Am I invited?

MrHHH
10-12-2007, 09:49 AM
I am also surprised at the dearth of male responses. Maybe it is a collective guilty conscious knowing that we all have several pairs of sweats and slinky shorts hidden in the dark recesses of our closets. Or it could be that the topic has been beaten to death already. I'm afraid to guess.

What do you say when you discover that women find dicks to be disgusting and revolting? :-\

Andygirl
10-12-2007, 09:51 AM
What do you say when you discover that women find dicks to be disgusting and revolting? :-\

And what do you say to guys who can't comprehend simple concepts?

Jenny
10-12-2007, 09:51 AM
Well. Penises are disgusting. That is why women are constantly torn between feeling sorry for men that they are so encumbered with this unpleasant appendages, and thinking that you must have done SOMETHING to deserve it.

MrHHH
10-12-2007, 10:44 AM
And what do you say to guys who can't comprehend simple concepts?

Do you want to hear why I wasn't going to respond or not? Ripping on me doesn't help people learn.

I've been in too many situations where nobody knows what the hell is going on because everyone is afraid to say anything somebody might not like. It sucks because things can't get better without open communication.

Sophia's original post was ok. She's saying she's a dancer not a hooker. (I'm ignoring her "Disgusting" comment because she's pissed off) Even Cameron's post where she "falls" on asses who are trying to take advantage of her is cool. The bad part is the women saying they hate dick.

Taylorlila "...his junk was hanging out the pant leg...:eek: :crazy: :gasp:"
Sophia " I duno what grosses me out more, their ultra visible woodies..."
Crow2 " Do you really enjoy feeling some wankers hard on poking you, like a pencil? I know I don't."
Andygirl "I never want to feel a boner outrightly."
Needtodance "And yuck for being poked by nearly-exposed with one layer of silky fabric boners."
Jenny "Well. Penises are disgusting."

How am I supposed to interpret that? Even if you hate the pervs, dicks are dicks. It doesn't matter who they're attached to.

cameron_keys
10-12-2007, 10:47 AM
How am I supposed to interpret that? Even if you hate the pervs, dicks are dicks. It doesn't matter who they're attached to.

NO ..it has EVERYTHING to do with who it's attatched to.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that you would have no problem having strange pussy rubbed on you? Even if it an 87 year old woman? Or a 500 pound woman? Or it's your mom? Or it is leaking green pus?

Dick isnt dick just like pussy isnt pussy. Some you want..some you REALLY dont. Unfortunately the ones we dont are the ones beiong forced on us at work...which is why they are disgusting.

Not really a hard concept to understand.

Jenny
10-12-2007, 10:56 AM
I'm going to have to second CK on this. Like note:

Andygirl "I never want to feel a boner outrightly."If you cannot infer that she meant she didn't want to feel a boner in a given set of circumstances, as opposed to EVER then you are not interpreting her in the manner of a reasonable person. If you want to be unreasonable we can't stop you - but we won't take you seriously either. Likewise here:

Jenny "Well. Penises are disgusting."While I thank you for remembering me, I think leaving out the context of the post - in which I was satirically responding to you specifically - is little unreasonable, don't you think?

Anyway - enough of this. If what you choose to take away from here is that dancers just hate all penises all the time - that's okay by me. I'm just saying that it is a completely unreasonable interpretation of the thread.

MrHHH
10-12-2007, 11:13 AM
Are you seriously trying to tell us that you would have no problem having strange pussy rubbed on you? Even if it an 87 year old woman? Or a 500 pound woman? Or it's your mom? Or it is leaking green pus?

Wow. You all were talking about guys who were 500 pounds, diseased, or your dad? I must have missed that. My bad.

How about the pussy along the lines of what you WERE talking about? Average horny women, between the ages of 20-50. No I wouldn't have a problem with it. Pussy is great. (I'm more of a breast man though)


Unfortunately the ones we don't are the ones being forced on us at work...which is why they are disgusting.

Not really a hard concept to understand.

It is because you're not making a difference between the pervs and dicks. What's wrong with their dicks? None of the harsh words on dick mentioned anything wrong with the dicks. Just that they were there, and they were hard.

Andygirl
10-12-2007, 11:22 AM
Dude, you are really dense if you can't understand this.

Phil-W
10-12-2007, 11:27 AM
Wow. You all were talking about guys who were 500 pounds, diseased, or your dad? I must have missed that. My bad.......

Er.....

As I notice you're new here, sort of general rule is that we're polite to the dancers.

Don't have to agree with them all the time, just respect that the pink forum is primarily for them.

If you want to vent try the blue section (Strip Club Junkie Forum towards the bottom of the Forums page). Fewer rules down there (and some very arguementative dancers).

Phil.

MrHHH
10-12-2007, 11:30 AM
While I thank you for remembering me, I think leaving out the context of the post - in which I was satirically responding to you specifically - is little unreasonable, don't you think?

It's the Internet. Sarcasm and satire doesn't travel well. :( And I've known women who do feel exactly like what you posted.


Anyway - enough of this. If what you choose to take away from here is that dancers just hate all penises all the time - that's okay by me. I'm just saying that it is a completely unreasonable interpretation of the thread.

You know the easiest way to disprove what I thought, and reassure me, would have been to say:

"Don't be silly. I like dick."

That's it. Yet all the replies from women has shown that they would rather argue with me, or call me stupid, instead of stating anything like that.

Taylorlila
10-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Do you want to hear why I wasn't going to respond or not? Ripping on me doesn't help people learn.

I've been in too many situations where nobody knows what the hell is going on because everyone is afraid to say anything somebody might not like. It sucks because things can't get better without open communication.

Sophia's original post was ok. She's saying she's a dancer not a hooker. (I'm ignoring her "Disgusting" comment because she's pissed off) Even Cameron's post where she "falls" on asses who are trying to take advantage of her is cool. The bad part is the women saying they hate dick.

Taylorlila "...his junk was hanging out the pant leg...:eek: :crazy: :gasp:"
Sophia " I duno what grosses me out more, their ultra visible woodies..."
Crow2 " Do you really enjoy feeling some wankers hard on poking you, like a pencil? I know I don't."
Andygirl "I never want to feel a boner outrightly."
Needtodance "And yuck for being poked by nearly-exposed with one layer of silky fabric boners."
Jenny "Well. Penises are disgusting."

How am I supposed to interpret that? Even if you hate the pervs, dicks are dicks. It doesn't matter who they're attached to.


Where did I say I hate dick? I used the term "junk" which is common slang...and yeah, obviously some guys balls that have been around longer than I have hanging out his shorts awaiting my bare ass to rub on them grosses me out. I never said I hate dicks. They are kinda funny looking, but I don't hate em. Ask my bf, I don't hate his dick.

cameron_keys
10-12-2007, 11:50 AM
Wow. You all were talking about guys who were 500 pounds, diseased, or your dad? I must have missed that. My bad.


You are obviously too dense to get the point. You said "dicks are dicks. It doesn't matter who they're attached to." So IN YOUR ESTIMATE..even if the dick was attatched to a 500 pound guy or my dad I would love it. Ummm..no.

And just because you would be more then happy to have strangers genitalia rubbed on you, doesnt mean we are that desperate or undiscriminating.

The point is that while yes, I love penis WHEN AND ONLY WHEN it is attached to a PERSON I am attracted to....any random guy trying to rub his dong on me is absolutely disgusting.

Jenny
10-12-2007, 11:52 AM
You know the easiest way to disprove what I thought, and reassure me, would have been to say:

"Don't be silly. I like dick."

That's it. Yet all the replies from women has shown that they would rather argue with me, or call me stupid, instead of stating anything like that.

Ooh. See, here's the thing. We don't want to reassure you. That's not what we're here for. If that is what you want - and that's fine, we all want it sometimes - I would suggest you take yourself to an actual club and pay us to do it. Here - we're more about taking the piss out of you and deconstructing your arguments while not making you feel better about them in any way. If you expect anything different your sojourn here will be painful. You have to understand that we get irritable when strangers come in here, judge our conversations and then demand that we tailor them to make them feel better. We don't respond well to that at all.

On the upside - I'm letting you know in case you haven't been reading here long - most of what we post about "men" or "guys" or "dicks" or whatever is context specific. If we are talking about grinding on guys in the club we have inveterately different feelings than when we are fooling around with guys recreationally. So - first thing for you to understand. Once you've got that one, try this. We think we're really, really funny. I'm not saying you have to agree - because we don't need your approval. But if a post CAN be interpreted humoursly, it is probably wise to do so. You might want to look around, read a little, all that kind of thing to see what we do here. We're friendly to guys - but there are a lot of rules and hoops for them as well.

britt244
10-12-2007, 12:35 PM
It is because you're not making a difference between the pervs and dicks. What's wrong with their dicks? None of the harsh words on dick mentioned anything wrong with the dicks. Just that they were there, and they were hard.

ok, well i dont want to grind on them unless i'm fucking them. got it?

this site ISNT FOR YOU. it's for us. so no one is going to reassure you. no one wants your business in their club because in a mere 5 posts you've managed to make yourself out to look like the exact kind of guy we avoid. man, if this is all you have to bring to the table...

Madcap
10-12-2007, 12:55 PM
HHH,

A thicker skin might be in order.

Elvia
10-12-2007, 02:54 PM
HHH,
another point you seemed to have missed is that you are NOT supposed to pull out your dick in a strip club. It's pretty well understood that that is a rule. So yeah, we're going to be offended and grossed out when someone disrespects us enough to do it anyway.

britt244
10-12-2007, 03:32 PM
^ well.. except we weren't talking about guys pulling them out.

Elvia
10-12-2007, 03:42 PM
oh, excuse me..."slipping" out under those slinky shorts. I believe that's been mentioned more than once here. How silly of me to think it's anything more than a little accident. ::)

Anyway, that's what i was referring to, should have been more clear.

Madcap
10-12-2007, 04:56 PM
oh, excuse me..."slipping" out under those slinky shorts. I believe that's been mentioned more than once here. How silly of me to think it's anything more than a little accident. ::)

Anyway, that's what i was referring to, should have been more clear.

LOL. The shortest shorts i wear come to just above my knee (And i wouldn't wear anything like that to a strip club lest I freeze to death). It'd take one damned big accident to pop me out. I'm not small, but i'm not John Holmes, either. :P

Elvia
10-12-2007, 05:59 PM
Glad to hear it, Madcap!

Samba
10-12-2007, 11:18 PM
You know the easiest way to disprove what I thought, and reassure me, would have been to say:

"Don't be silly. I like dick."


Don't be silly. I like dick.

I just don't like any and all dick. You might be thrilled to have just any pussy on you, (gross) but I guess I'm picky. I really only want to feel my man's dick. Not yours, and not some asswipe's who comes in wearing flimsy shorts with the express purpose of getting as much contact as humanly possible.

mike_somd
10-12-2007, 11:57 PM
I was in the champagne room with a dancer this last week and she told me to wear sweat pants the next time. I was wearing jeans at the time. I guess it all depends on the dancer. I may go buy a pair of sweats for next time. I tolder her I thought wearing sweats were a no no. She then asked where I heard that and I said I read it on the internet. She then said to wear sweats next time. I guess she wants something softer.

Just as the mileage may vary, different dancers may want you in different atire.

I don't own sweats, and never really liked wearing them, but might try them for her. I dunno.

ruru123
10-13-2007, 12:37 AM
I was in the champagne room with a dancer this last week and she told me to wear sweat pants the next time. I was wearing jeans at the time. I guess it all depends on the dancer. I may go buy a pair of sweats for next time. I tolder her I thought wearing sweats were a no no. She then asked where I heard that and I said I read it on the internet. She then said to wear sweats next time. I guess she wants something softer.

Just as the mileage may vary, different dancers may want you in different atire.

I don't own sweats, and never really liked wearing them, but might try them for her. I dunno.

ummm no offence mike, but i call bullshit...on you. what a friggen coincidence that, she just happened to mention you wear sweatpants the next time, and we have a HUGE thread on NOT wearing them. i don't see a dancer saying "next time you should wear sweatpants" we don't usually offer that type of tip.

but then again i could be wrong, and you could be telling the truth. ...... nahhhhh, i doubt it!::)