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Tina
10-06-2007, 09:43 AM
How down to earth are the prettier dancers? Are they funny, or are they the "don't touch me here, don't touch me there" type? In some of the smaller rural clubs I book at, some of the better customers like to be able to give you a call to see where you are working, or to chat for a FEW minutes randomly. The girls that are good salespeople, friendly, and are down to earth, aren't afraid to exchange numbers and loosen up with the guys. Some of the younger prissier types won't and as a result they don't sell as well as the girls who will.

Some of these so called "hotter" girls are kind of flaky, and think the guys are supposed to come to them since they look good. Many better looking girls just like the not so good looking ones shouldn't be dancing. They are just not comfortable enough with the business and the guys to be successful. They have too many inner hang ups and personal life issues, to be the dancer who is fun to be with, and who knows how to make guys WANT to spend money on them.

PhillyDancer1982
10-06-2007, 10:26 AM
Plus a lot of guys seem to think that less attractive girls will be willing to work "harder" for their money. Whether its true or not....they know the hot girls dont have to do extras.

That makes sense and I agree with your point :)

britneyireland
10-06-2007, 04:01 PM
So again, it all boils down to customer service, not looks.

When I first posted "Bullshit on the you're too pretty line" I mean it. "You're too pretty" is just the EXCUSE that a certain type of customer gives when he is looking for either more attention or more contact. However if the pretty girl offered the same customer service as the less attractive girl...he'd pick the pretty girl first any day.

Success in this industry has very little to do with what you look like. The "pretty girls" often rely on looks alone, and that works ok when the club is busy. The "less attractive" girls rely on customer service which is truly what clients want to buy. In some clubs "better customer service" equates to higher contact. In other clubs, it's sitting down for a short conversation before "wanna dance?"

cameron_keys
10-06-2007, 05:49 PM
So again, it all boils down to customer service, not looks.

When I first posted "Bullshit on the you're too pretty line" I mean it. "You're too pretty" is just the EXCUSE that a certain type of customer gives when he is looking for either more attention or more contact. However if the pretty girl offered the same customer service as the less attractive girl...he'd pick the pretty girl first any day.



Thats not always true, though I see your point. The guys that are there with the intention of finding a girl to date or fuck may very well pick the less attractive girl. Because the "perfect 10" he KNOWS is out of his league and will likely tell him to piss off and laugh in his face if he makes his intentions knows. Where he percieves the girl thats maybe a 6 or 7 as being within his reach.


Of course....in many places extras DO come into play. It makes my blood boil evry tie I hear "you're the prettiest girl here.....but I'm getting a champagne room with her(pointing to girl with no teeth) because I know she'll DO more"...wink wink
Yes. Yes she will.
Sadly ....I've heard that A LOT in my years of dancing.

terra
10-06-2007, 06:26 PM
In my experience, the blue-collar customers seemed to prefer the more "relaxed" and "down to earth" girl-next-door/innocent types. I did okay with them when I looked new/natural, but eventually I made myself look really "strippery" (Pamela-Anderson-like) and got rejected and told I look "too fake". I didn't bother changing my look (it was working for me with other customers) so I started to approach the working-class customers in the way that I found appealed to them (making more small-talk that usual, altering my tone of voice slightly, using similar language to them, etc.,) which made me appear less intimidating to them. It worked for me.

Bridgette
10-06-2007, 11:05 PM
So again, it all boils down to customer service, not looks.

When I first posted "Bullshit on the you're too pretty line" I mean it. "You're too pretty" is just the EXCUSE that a certain type of customer gives when he is looking for either more attention or more contact. However if the pretty girl offered the same customer service as the less attractive girl...he'd pick the pretty girl first any day.

Success in this industry has very little to do with what you look like. The "pretty girls" often rely on looks alone, and that works ok when the club is busy. The "less attractive" girls rely on customer service which is truly what clients want to buy. In some clubs "better customer service" equates to higher contact. In other clubs, it's sitting down for a short conversation before "wanna dance?"Yes, but many guys won't even give the hotter girl a chance - they write her off the instant she approaches because of their own perceptions that she won't give whatever it is they want, whether contact or attention. They are super insecure and can't handle being around hot women, even when they're paying for it.

I do agree though, that OP's closing lines could use some improvement.



Also, if you find you do better with the night crowd, why not work nights? Or vice versa. Or if you must work days, maybe tone down the "polish", work on being more friendly and using better closing lines, and see if that helps.

Optimist
10-07-2007, 07:37 AM
I had that happen. I wanted to work at a no muss, no fuss local club and I couldn't understand the resistence I got. The more I tried to close them the worse it got! They looked at me like I was a scam artist! So, I changed my hair and costume and speech keeping it all super simple. I only wore lipstick
and mascara and it worked!! I started making money again!


How down to earth are the prettier dancers? Are they funny, or are they the "don't touch me here, don't touch me there" type?

I don't think not wanting to be molested means you're not down to earth. If I wanted to prostitute I just would. I dance and I'm down to earth but I maintain psychologically healthy boundaries.