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Bob_Loblaw
10-08-2007, 10:10 PM
I didn't perceive BG's post to be hostile either. Sounded more like indifference on her part to whether arctic717 boycotts US strip clubs or not.
I'm really baffled that this thread has continued as long as it has (5 pages to this point going in circles more than Britney in her Gimme More video).
Arctic, I don't think anyone here is disputing your right to spend your money in South America if that's what you want to do. You've presented your arguments in a logical fashion and it's apparent you believe everything you've stated. What some people are questioning is your logic and I admit, I'm one of them. In the end, I know there is nothing that I could say so you could "see the light" from our perspective.
From my side, I'm declaring this a stalemate. This will be my last post in this thread.
Bob_Loblaw
10-08-2007, 10:10 PM
That is until I post the next time.
BrunetteGoddess
10-08-2007, 11:13 PM
I didn't perceive BG's post to be hostile either. Sounded more like indifference on her part to whether arctic717 boycotts US strip clubs or not.
Exactly.
evan_essence
10-09-2007, 05:58 PM
No boss, it's my company. I set up shop here because the economy is one of the fastest growing in the world (8.9%) and there are awesome tax advantages for real-estate and business.The point is that it's subsidized by company business. How exactly do you expect every guy here to be able to take advantage of a situation that's mostly unique to you and a few others? I mean, good for YOU, but it doesn't mean squat to the typical American strip club junkie. Unless they own a company and can qualify for tax subsidizies that the average person doesn't get, the POP is still cheaper closer to home. Even if they can afford a week's vacation there, and even if the math does work out to the POP being cheaper there for that week than it would be here, what the hell are they supposed to do the other 51 weeks of the year?
That is not the norm, most often it will be $200-$300 for the night w/no housekeeping. Where I am is probably the most expensive for these activities in Latin America.Then how is that cheaper than staying here and getting it? You can't have it both ways. You can't say in one breath, oh it's so much cheaper here and you get so much more, and then turn around and try to defend the idea that you're not taking advantage of the economically downtrodden by arguing that they're well off because they charge fees that are similar to American girls. See how you painted yourself in a corner there? You're either making things up or else you're not realistically factoring the true cost of what you're pitching.
Also there is a small but growing group of needy Gringo's down here who overpay and overtip and give stupid amounts of money away. If that keeps up it will become just like the states.Awww. The free marketplace is a bitch, isn't it? It's a real bummer for a buyer when he's outmaneuvered by other bidders. It is, after all, worth what the consumer's willing to pay.
Very true, they tend to get Americanized very quickly, once that happens they can sometimes out do the Americans in terms of expectaction and entitlement. Once again though not all US girls are like that nor Latins, in generalities though as experienced by me.Americanized? You mean become good business women? Viva capitalism.
-Ev
Katrine
10-09-2007, 08:45 PM
Ah yes, Mark. He thought I was some genius expert. That was kind of cool. I like asskissers. ;)
arctic717
10-09-2007, 10:18 PM
The point is that it's subsidized by company business. How exactly do you expect every guy here to be able to take advantage of a situation that's mostly unique to you
I was never talking about everyone, I said numerous times, that this is what made sense to ME. I also never in anyway was suggesting for anyone else to go to SA, as all I posted was that I was unhappy with what I was spending in the strip-clubs in my area and the corresponding attitude that went with it. All the rest of my posts were me defending what appeared to me to be incorrect assumption about myself or my experiences. I have an apartment here and live here more than half the year so of course I'm an exception. I do have friends who live in the US and feel as I do about the SC's in our area. They will take the money they would have spent in the SC and every other month or once a month take a mini-vacation. Both me and my friends use frequent flyer miles for our flight, so it cost about $40 in tax to get here and they can get a nice hotel for $40 a night. The food, liquor and entertainment is a fraction of what it is back home and they have the option of going deep-sea fishing, white-water rafting or hitting beautiful beaches. It's less expensive for many of them to come here once a month and do all that than to go to the SC 3 times a month for a few hours each time. To each there own.
Then how is that cheaper than staying here and getting it? You can't have it both ways.
I'm not all that concerned about "getting it". SC's are a small part of my life. I don't arrange my life around it but will engage in whatever is available where I happen to be. I've never taken a trip to get laid and certainly didn't start my business in SA to have sex with cheap hookers. Where I am has the most expensive hookers in SA.
Awww. The free marketplace is a bitch, isn't it? It's a real bummer for a buyer when he's outmaneuvered by other bidders.
It is what it is, everyone can do whateve they want. I never said there was anything wrong with what the clubs in my area charge or even what I consider to be poor attitude from the majority of dancers that I've come into contact with. That's their decision. My decision is if I want to go anymore or not. That's all I've ever been saying and that in comparison to what I've been experiencing in SA, it was a no-brainer for me, personally.
Americanized? You mean become good business women? Viva capitalism.
No, In this context I meant being all take and no give with a healthy dose of ingraditude thrown in.
BrunetteGoddess
10-09-2007, 10:20 PM
I have to hand it to you Arctic; most people would have just given up on this place and left :P
arctic717
10-09-2007, 10:26 PM
I have to hand it to you Arctic; most people would have just given up on this place and left
Don't be too impressed with me BG, I've been home sick with the flu for the whole posting period. I have enjoyed the dialogue though.
BrunetteGoddess
10-09-2007, 10:29 PM
:laughing:
I guess us dancers aren't the only ones that sit on here when we're sick!
evan_essence
10-10-2007, 06:50 PM
I was never talking about everyone, I said numerous times, that this is what made sense to ME. I also never in anyway was suggesting for anyone else to go to SA, as all I posted was that I was unhappy with what I was spending in the strip-clubs in my area and the corresponding attitude that went with it.Well, now you're just rewriting history. Your first post advises anyone who wants more information to PM you. If that can't be characterized as suggesting to others that they consider coming to South America, I don't know what would qualify as a suggestion. Which is fine. But before someone else decides it's worth it, they might want to add up what it's going to cost them. The full cost, not just the costs after they magically beam down.
I have an apartment here and live here more than half the year so of course I'm an exception.Thank you for acknowledging that it's impractical for many.
I do have friends who live in the US and feel as I do about the SC's in our area. They will take the money they would have spent in the SC and every other month or once a month take a mini-vacation. Both me and my friends use frequent flyer miles for our flight, so it cost about $40 in tax to get here and they can get a nice hotel for $40 a night.Where do these frequent flyer miles come from? Business travel? If so, there's that subsidy again that the average Joe doesn't have access to. If it's reward for personal travel, well, you're actually paying for that, aren't you? No such thing as truly "free." Again, more power to you and others if that's your situation and choice. But we had to work real hard to get these details out of you. Your first few posts didn't reveal that; they made it sound like a bonanza that anyone could reap for the same cost as a strip club visit or two. And I suspect that's the way you wanted it perceived, if for no other reason than personal bragging rights.
The food, liquor and entertainment is a fraction of what it is back home and they have the option of going deep-sea fishing, white-water rafting or hitting beautiful beaches. It's less expensive for many of them to come here once a month and do all that than to go to the SC 3 times a month for a few hours each time. To each there own.Again, three cheers for subsidizing trips to South America via business perks. And hooray for the limited number of guys who have business to do in SA. On the other hand, hip-hip-hurray for the guys who spend their money in strip clubs in America. Let's start a counter thread to this one.. No more foreign travel for me! In which everyone can brag that they get so much more at home. Oh wait, we already have that with the Trip Reports.
I'm not all that concerned about "getting it". SC's are a small part of my life. I don't arrange my life around it but will engage in whatever is available where I happen to be. I've never taken a trip to get laid and certainly didn't start my business in SA to have sex with cheap hookers. Where I am has the most expensive hookers in SA.Way to evade the point, which was that you contradicted yourself about the POP. Let's ignore the curious circumstances under which you claim you don't take trips to get laid at the same time you're asking people to PM you if they want to do just that, and instead, simplify this for those wanting to budget for the trip. Does fucking a sex worker there who may or may not do dishes cost $80 a night or $200 an hour?
By the way, why is it that some of you guys spend so much energy on bragging up your out-of-country prostitution experiences instead of pressuring politicians to repeal the laws that prohibit it in your own country? If I were hooking, I'd probably have a cheerier disposition too if I didn't have to worry about the risk of getting busted.
-Ev
miabella
10-10-2007, 07:14 PM
to be fair, ev, his 200-300 figure is for an all-night booking in whatever country he frequents in south america. the 80$ figure is for 'dates' that are not expected to go all night. so girls who stay over on 80 dollar dates are theoretically giving up some money.
he's still a (cheap!) whoremonger who wants to be loved. i mean, in one breath 'omg i am so generous to these fiery latina wenches' and in the next breath 'why do dumb gringos gotta give them girls more moneys!' is hardly a sign of generous nature or intent.
but it's amusing the way he scrambles to pretend otherwise.
Jenny
10-10-2007, 11:34 PM
Well, to be equally fair, he characterized a "typical" date and "typical" encounter - he didn't at the time specify that he was just so wildly charming that women wanted to spend the night off the clock and do his dishes for fun.
Sophia_Starina
10-11-2007, 09:39 AM
I've been home sick with the flu for the whole posting period. I have enjoyed the dialogue though.
Are you sure it's not some South American AIDS/Herpes hybrid that has gotten into your brain (while giving youy 'flu-like' symptoms) and is trying to replicate itself by making your fingers type what amounts to advertising for the South American hooker rings?
Your body is now a vessel for this virus and it's trying to make the germs multiply and attack the world AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
Hehhehehe.
jsmythe23
10-12-2007, 09:55 AM
Where do these frequent flyer miles come from? Business travel?
You can get frequent flyer miles from your credit card, typically 1 mile per dollar spent, they also sometimes give you a bonus of up to 25,000 miles for signing up. I run everything through my credit card and haven't paid for a flight in years.
arctic717
10-12-2007, 10:41 AM
Well, now you're just rewriting history. Your first post advises anyone who wants more information to PM you. If that can't be characterized as suggesting to others that they consider coming to South America
There is a difference between telling someone they should go and offering info. if they decide they want to go.
simplify this for those wanting to budget for the trip. Does fucking a sex worker there who may or may not do dishes cost $80 a night or $200 an hour?
There are different options. You can go to some massage parlor's and get 1 hour w/massage and sex for $45. You can go to a strip-club and get 1 hour of massage and sex for $50 to $85 depending on the place. You can go to a nightclub that will have up to 100 independent working girls and with them negotiate. The going rate is about $80 for 1 hour and $200 for all night. With the independents it's completely negotiable and can vary up and down pricewise on a number of factors. As mentioned earlier where I am is by far the most expensive in Latin America for these activities. The infrastructure here is completely first world though and you feel like you're in Miami or Vegas. If you are on a budget and want to spend as little as possible there are other countries where $40 will get you all night with a very attractive girl. Some of these countries will have good infrastructure as well, other ones will be not be so nice.
he's still a (cheap!) whoremonger who wants to be loved. i mean, in one breath 'omg i am so generous to these fiery latina wenches' and in the next breath 'why do dumb gringos gotta give them girls more moneys!' is hardly a sign of generous nature or intent.
Mia, Please show me where I claimed to be "generous" or asked "why do dumb gringos gotta give them girls more moneys". I simply stated that the gringos were doing it, it's their business if they want to, if this then gives the girls a sense of entitlement and they become less appreciative or rude if they don't recieve a tip that's big enough, that's thier business. It's then my decision if I still want to be a client under those circumstances.
Lastly, I don't care about or want to be "loved", I just don't want to be treated rudely as a customer. I may want regular girls or a girlfriend to love me, but this is entertainment that I am paying for for me and business for the girls involved. No one is talking about love. If there is alot of laughing and playfullness and some decide to stay much longer than they have to, so much the better. The bottom line however is that they wouldn't show up in the first place if I wasn't paying.
merely_lurking
10-14-2007, 05:11 PM
Yeah, strip clubs are lame. Once the minor novelty wears off, there's really no reason to check them out. Dancers just work there because for women that are attractive but have no talents or skills, they can make enough money to support their drug habits.
evan_essence
10-14-2007, 07:58 PM
You can get frequent flyer miles from your credit card, typically 1 mile per dollar spent, they also sometimes give you a bonus of up to 25,000 miles for signing up. I run everything through my credit card and haven't paid for a flight in years.My point is that it is not magically free. I surmise that you're paying for it indirectly through higher interest rates and/or increased cost of goods and services to subsidize this promotion. Just because it isn't line-itemed for you doesn't mean it isn't rolled into your credit card expense.
Also, keep in mind that, assuming your program covers foreign travel, you're going to need a lot more miles to make it to South America than you would to a domestic location.
-Ev
jsmythe23
10-14-2007, 09:31 PM
My point is that it is not magically free. I surmise that you're paying for it indirectly through higher interest rates and/or increased cost of goods and services to subsidize this promotion. Just because it isn't line-itemed for you doesn't mean it isn't rolled into your credit card expense
Actually, it is kind of magically free. There is no increased cost of goods and as long as you pay the balance off every month (which I do) there is no interest rate or charge of any kind. You can further maximize using the card at certain rest's that paya bonus of 10 miles per dollar spent and shopping online at Office Depot, Sears, Home Depot, Borders and a bunch more places and getting up to 5 miles per dollar spent. My favorite move is when out to dinner with a big group at a Rest. that pays 10 miles per dollar is to pay the whole bill with my credit card and collect everyone elses share in cash. If 8 people have a $480 bill, I get 4,800 miles plus 480 for the actual bill so 5,200 miles for a $60 meal.
If you don't use the miles program you are kind of just throwing away a chance for free airfare because there really is no cost to it (as long as you pay your balance each month). I don't usually go to SA with my miles but checked and to where the OP goes is only 30,000 miles which isn't that much. You can get 20,000 just for signing up. Here is an example:
Corgan
10-15-2007, 03:36 AM
Yeah, strip clubs are lame. Once the minor novelty wears off, there's really no reason to check them out. Dancers just work there because for women that are attractive but have no talents or skills, they can make enough money to support their drug habits.
/:O hmm.
last time i checked i was pretty talented. not to mention, i'm pretty articulate and smart. i'm sorry the only dancers you've met were crack whores.
and one more thing: if you think sc's are lame, then why the fuck would you waste your time on a board for "strip club junkies"?
Sophia_Starina
10-15-2007, 09:34 AM
Yeah, strip clubs are lame. Once the minor novelty wears off, there's really no reason to check them out. Dancers just work there because for women that are attractive but have no talents or skills, they can make enough money to support their drug habits.
I'm mystified by the abundance of woman hating going on on this board.
Why would anyone assume that dancers are talentless drug addicts?
Why do guys go to strip clubs if they're filled with women like that? Why would guys try and pick us up, get in our pants, get our numbers if we're all so terrible?
The simple answer is that we're not... and you, merely_lurking, are a misogynist douche bag.
Jenny
10-15-2007, 09:54 AM
I'm mystified by the abundance of woman hating going on on this board.
Why would anyone assume that dancers are talentless drug addicts?
Why do guys go to strip clubs if they're filled with women like that? Why would guys try and pick us up, get in our pants, get our numbers if we're all so terrible?
The simple answer is that we're not... and you, merely_lurking, are a misogynist douche bag.
Does this really surprise you? Okay, to demystify a little: remember on the pink side a girl talked about a Halloween party in which she dressed up as a customer, wearing sweatpants, a dirty tank top with a dildo sticking out? That is essentially what these guys are doing here. They are just caricatures of douchebag customers. There is no more point to taking them seriously than there is to examining a Tom and Jerry cartoon for cruelty to animals. They are performing it for you - note how they keep posting the same phrase until someone responds to it. If you want to amuse yourself by calling them names - by all means, that is what they come here for. But really - don't upset yourself, honey.
Sophia_Starina
10-15-2007, 10:00 AM
Jenny, I just don't get it. What happened to going to a strip club, being entertained, and having a good time?
It seems like some of the guys who post on this board see the club as some sort of war zone where dancers are the enemy.
mr punk states that dancers have a "whores mentality", lurking thinks dancers are 'talentless drug addicts", I won't even go into the plethora of other insulting, degrading, BS comments that are made on this board each day.
It fucking blows my mind.
Sorry, SCJ guys, for assuming custies come and see me to have a fun evening. My mistake!
Jenny
10-15-2007, 10:40 AM
Sophia - it's a performance. Somewhat for each other, but mostly for you. Or, you know. us. It's predicated on same fairly serious personal issues, or alternatively a sheer joy in getting someone's proverbial goat. The last thing you should be concerned about is that they represent actual customers. Nothing they say is particularly sensible, because it isn't meant to be. It's mean to be offensive, not coherent. Don't worry about it.
Sophia_Starina
10-15-2007, 11:38 AM
Will do, Jenny. :meditate:
Bob_Loblaw
10-15-2007, 10:39 PM
I must have ADD because I have a habit of losing interest in threads after the three page mark so I miss out on a lot.
SS, SCJ exists as a place for customers to discuss and share their experiences at strip clubs. Unlike SCL which serves as nothing but a bashing site, the custies who visit SCJ on a regular basis generally are here to exchange views and debate all things related to strip clubs.
We have a wide range of customer types. Some new and some old. Some enthusiastic and some jaded. Some frugal and some generous (or enlightened and foolish depending on who you ask). Some are blue throughout and some venture into the pink side on occasion. And some are just more vocal than others. Is there an abundance of woman hating on SCJ? I don't believe so. The incidents you refer to can be attributed to a select few.
I'm not here to apologize for anyone. While I don't share the same opinions as some of my fellow SCJs, they are entitled to see the strip club world through blue instead of rose colored glasses if they choose. I don't pretend to speak for them. At the same time, be careful not to paint all customers with the same brush as they don't speak for me. What Mr.P and what I would find enjoyable in a trip to a club are different. But who am I to say that he's wrong for liking what he does and that I'm right? It's like me saying he's wrong for liking a meat lovers pizza instead of a taco pizza (I am in no way insinuating Mr.P likes his share of sausage).
mr_punk
10-16-2007, 04:40 AM
oh, why even bother with an explanation, bob? if they can't take the heat. frankly, they should follow the advice of this person who, ironically, can't follow her own advice.
Ooh. See, here's the thing. We don't want to reassure you. That's not what we're here for. If that is what you want - and that's fine, we all want it sometimes - I would suggest you take yourself to an actual club and pay us to do it. Here - we're more about taking the piss out of you and deconstructing your arguments while not making you feel better about them in any way. If you expect anything different your sojourn here will be painful.
Jenny
10-16-2007, 05:24 AM
Sigh. Punk - when have I EVER sought reassurance from you or the blue side? I have never been so stupid. My advice to the young lady was, more or less: "they just trying to annoy you. Don' pay it any mind." That is in no way inconsistent with my advice on the pink side. Trust me, my own advice is well followed. By now ya'all would have to come up with something pretty grotesque to elicit an eyeroll.
GenWar
10-16-2007, 05:57 AM
Sorry, SCJ guys, for assuming custies come and see me to have a fun evening. My mistake!
JMMJ, Sophia. Have you READ the pink side? Seriously?
I can't got anywhere on the pink side except Music Mix and perhaps some of the Lounge without getting insulted. Sometimes positively upset. And no matter how many times mr_punk tells me that I am a worthless PL pussy for attaching any of my self-worth to the opinion of the so-called "girl scouts", it doesn't ever get any better.
But, there is an explanation, right. I mean, what I have been told, time and again, is that the pink side is there for participants in a usually misunderstood and often mistreated but nonetheless valuable service industry to work out their aggressions in a harmless and theraputic way. So, I am supposed to take their stories of mistreating their customers. and the resulting celebrations and congradulations thereof, as "venting." Yet and still, you cannot offer us the same courtesy.
IMHO, it is a game. It is all about getting what you want while not giving want you don't want. The resources are money and mileage. Some people, like mr_punk, are good at the game and not ashamed of it. (Though I think mr_punk often surrounds himself with inferior players to boost his stats, but if all he cares about is winning, more power to him.) but I digress. my point is, in most games, you will struggle to your utmost to defeat your opponent. And that can often generate frustration with the game that easily translates into antipathy directed at your opponent. The trick is to play your best and walk away at the end with dignity intact. No matter the score, the true loser is the one who lets the game make him less than he is. I'm saying, rise above it.
Or, ignore it, like Jenn says. See, that's what they tell me about pink. But I never buy it. :-\
-gen
Casual Observer
10-16-2007, 12:04 PM
In the old days, mark would now chime in about Thailand.
Now that was entertainment, folks...
rockie
10-16-2007, 05:05 PM
GW: I agree with you that what goes on in the club is a game played by both customer and dancer. I believe that both customer and dancer can play the game and both retain their dignity. This board has enhanced my ability to get what I want in the club without a having negative impact on any dancer that entertains me. This boards basic premise is not to enhance our experience (customer), thus the negative responses especially on the pink side. GW: Every post I've seen you post has been respectful, but you'll never get total acceptance over there. Keep posting and thanks for the past entertainment!
mr_punk
10-16-2007, 06:41 PM
I can't got anywhere on the pink side except Music Mix and perhaps some of the Lounge without getting insulted. Sometimes positively upset. And no matter how many times mr_punk tells me that I am a worthless PL pussy for attaching any of my self-worth to the opinion of the so-called "girl scouts", it doesn't ever get any better.i don't think i ever called you a pussy, gen. oh, i might have called you a stripper's biatch, an ass-kissing toady, or an apple-polishing boot licker, but never a pussy. i have too much respect for you to call you that.
So, I am supposed to take their stories of mistreating their customers. and the resulting celebrations and congradulations thereof, as "venting." Yet and still, you cannot offer us the same courtesy.no tears, Gen. you guys knew the deal when you signed on to provide 24/7 brown nosing service...oops..i mean, provide support. obviously, you decided the price was worth it. cowboy up, big guy!
merely_lurking
10-16-2007, 11:47 PM
/:O hmm.
last time i checked i was pretty talented. not to mention, i'm pretty articulate and smart. i'm sorry the only dancers you've met were crack whores.
and one more thing: if you think sc's are lame, then why the fuck would you waste your time on a board for "strip club junkies"?
That's cool, you're an exception to the rule. I'm retired from strip clubbing and used to post here back in the day. I'm just stopping in to drop some dope knowledge on you guys.
safado
10-17-2007, 03:59 PM
Why do guys go to strip clubs if they're filled with women like that? Why would guys try and pick us up, get in our pants, get our numbers if we're all so terrible?
Because I just want to get laid no strings attached and any ho will do.
Bob_Loblaw
10-17-2007, 11:39 PM
^ Dude, you'd be better off picking up a hooker in the slums. At least you wouldn't have to pay cover to go there.
Sophia_Starina
10-18-2007, 10:32 AM
^^^^^bwahahahaha!!!!
Phil-W
10-18-2007, 04:20 PM
Jenny, I just don't get it. What happened to going to a strip club, being entertained, and having a good time?
It still goes on. This forum is atypical, because we talk about the exception rather than the rule.
If you gossip in the dressing room, do you talk about the anal retentive you just fended off, or the perfectly average, slightly boring customer that had 3 dances from you, smiled and bid you an unexceptional goodbye?
It seems like some of the guys who post on this board see the club as some sort of war zone where dancers are the enemy.
And for some it is. You can detect some badly bruised egos in some cases (with 'I was a victim of SS' carved into them).
IMHO, it is a game. It is all about getting what you want while not giving want you don't want. The resources are money and mileage.
Word.
Sophia - look at it through a guy's eyes for a moment. What motivates a guy to keep coming into a SC and keeping on spending?
In most cases they rationalise it by thinking there's more to it than just the dancer earing money. They like to think she's getting turned on by it, likes them well enough to see them OTC or whatever.
Dancers are generally going to win that game because at the end of the day they've got the money, and generally all the guy has his illusions.
How do you think the average customer (not necessarily someone posting here) reacts when they realise that their $x,000 expenditure has got them nowhere?
Enter a bruised ego from stage left...
mr punk states that dancers have a "whores mentality"
Hidden below the surface of mr_p's comments, you'll find a very dry (even desiccated) sense of humour. Might look a little different from your side of the fence, but I sometimes detect a distinct whiff of 'tongue in cheek' from some of his posts.
Sorry, SCJ guys, for assuming custies come and see me to have a fun evening. My mistake!
They probably do. Only most don't post on this forum. We're a very unrepresentative lot.
Phil.
BrunetteGoddess
10-18-2007, 04:34 PM
This is why I don't take the blue side that seriously. It's a lot more fun that way.
....And this thread is still going?
miabella
10-18-2007, 05:18 PM
and going!
hehe.
bem401
10-18-2007, 06:25 PM
It seems like some of the guys who post on this board see the club as some sort of war zone where dancers are the enemy.
Well, to be fair, that street does not run in one direction only. Both sides need each other to exist but I think the girls' need the guys a bit more than vice-versa.
yoda57us
10-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Well, to be fair, that street does not run in one direction only. Both sides need each other to exist but I think the girls' need the guys a bit more than vice-versa.
Oh please don't even start this BS again about who needs who more. it's irrelevant to her original comment anyway. I think we all understand that without customers and dancers strip clubs would not exist. Women would have to do something else for a living and most men over 40 would never see a young and non-sagging female breast or ass again.
That has nothing to do with the adversarial attitude that is displayed by some guys both on the boards and in the clubs. I go to the clubs to be entertained and have a good time.
I'm getting the most for my money when that happens. It's beyond me why the guys who just want sex don't simply call an escort. It's so damn easy in this day and age that wasting time trying to get laid in a strip club is just plain stupid.
bem401
10-19-2007, 06:29 AM
.
That has nothing to do with the adversarial attitude that is displayed by some guys both on the boards and in the clubs. I go to the clubs to be entertained and have a good time.
True, but my point was only that adversarial behavior is not strictly the domain of the customers.
SportsWriter2
10-19-2007, 10:22 AM
I think we all understand that without customers and dancers strip clubs would not exist. Women would have to do something else for a living and most men over 40 would never see a young and non-sagging female breast or ass again.
Maybe not you, Yoda, but TOO and I would still have Hooters girls OTR. :)
yoda57us
10-19-2007, 12:41 PM
Maybe not you, Yoda, but TOO and I would still have Hooters girls OTR. :)
OTR? On the rag...? Off the record? Over the railing? I'm confused Sporty...
At any rate, I've only been to one Hooters and there was no one there over the age of about 23...Cute but not my speed....
yoda57us
10-19-2007, 12:46 PM
True, but my point was only that adversarial behavior is not strictly the domain of the customers.
Perhaps that is what you should have said then....
SportsWriter2
10-19-2007, 03:48 PM
OTR? On the rag...? Off the record? Over the railing? I'm confused Sporty...
Outside the restaurant. I'm disappointed in you, Bubba. :-\
yoda57us
10-19-2007, 04:56 PM
Outside the restaurant. I'm disappointed in you, Bubba. :-\
I can live with that...8)
xdamage
10-22-2007, 09:04 PM
I'm mystified by the abundance of woman hating going on on this board.
I've read my share of man hating too (more so on the Pink side of course). Unfortunately it does seem to me that SCs can end up being places where both dancers and customers work out their issues with the other sex. I guess it just goes with the territory. Mix males and females, money, and sexuality, and the results are not always pretty.
Ideally of course customers appreciate dancers for providing a service, and dancers appreciate customers for providing patronage, but I guess all we can say is that would require ideal customers and ideal dancers, and those seem to be rare ;)
bem401
10-23-2007, 08:54 AM
Mix males and females, money, and sexuality, and the results are not always pretty.
Lets not forget to throw in a few shots of alcohol as fuel for the fire, X.
safado
10-24-2007, 03:25 PM
I have read through this thread and I am a little surprised with the responses considering all the testosterone on this forum.
So none of you guys are interested in going to Central or South America and fucking strippers for what a couple of lap dances would cost in the U.S.?
yoda57us
10-24-2007, 05:46 PM
I have read through this thread and I am a little surprised with the responses considering all the testosterone on this forum.
So none of you guys are interested in going to Central or South America and fucking strippers for what a couple of lap dances would cost in the U.S.?
Considering the fact that most of the posters in blue are male the testosterone level would be fairly high. This thread isn't really about getting laid in South America and besides, unless you live there, the actual cost per orgasm when you figure in travel expenses is no where near what a couple of LD's would be.
This thread is about a guy who was trying to save us from ourselves. FYI, that doesn't usually go over too well here.