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"Friendly" and "slutty" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. It may be that being both friendly AND slutty makes the most money.
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LapOfLuxury is right. It is a combination approach. That and you have got to develop your people reading skills. It takes time but eventually you should know how to approach a guy just by how he looks at you and behaves.
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Depends. Some if it may be due to the type of club you work in. For example, if you work in a club predominately known as an extras one, your average customer is gonna be looking for a sure thing and a "lady" will not be what he's interested in.
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I'll give you a perfect example of a conversation in this club! Hey baby you having a good night? Well, why don't we go over here in vip so I can feel on that cock! Is that how the conversation is supposed to go?
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I'll give you a perfect example of a conversation in this club! Hey baby you having a good night? Well, why don't we go over here in vip so I can feel on that cock! Is that how the conversation is supposed to go?
It depends on the club, I guess. I've heard worse. A dancer once introduced herself to me and said: "I don't charge extra for blow jobs; I just do 'em."
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I'll give you a perfect example of a conversation in this club! Hey baby you having a good night? Well, why don't we go over here in vip so I can feel on that cock! Is that how the conversation is supposed to go?
Again, it depends on the context of the club you're working at. All I can say is that approach would not work on me at my home club.
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I'll give you a perfect example of a conversation in this club! Hey baby you having a good night? Well, why don't we go over here in vip so I can feel on that cock! Is that how the conversation is supposed to go?
Wow. :O I have never had a dancer say that to me. Then again, I stick to high-end clubs so maybe that's just not done there. Now would the above work on me, it is arousing but that's just a little too forward for me. I'd probably say, "Thanks, but another time." But that's just me. I'm not into high mileage. Those that are would probably like this approach.
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I'll give you a perfect example of a conversation in this club! Hey baby you having a good night? Well, why don't we go over here in vip so I can feel on that cock! Is that how the conversation is supposed to go?
honey I think that may give them the wrong idea of what you'll do in the vip and I don't know if you want that.
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It depends on the club, I guess. I've heard worse. A dancer once introduced herself to me and said: "I don't charge extra for blow jobs; I just do 'em."
Well good grief :O
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It depends on the club, I guess. I've heard worse. A dancer once introduced herself to me and said: "I don't charge extra for blow jobs; I just do 'em."
Wow...we must have visited the same club at some point.
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Different men visit strip clubs for different reasons. You can try a "standardized" approach, but it will be wrong more often than not. Some guys like sweet, some like bitchy, some like meek. Start out neutral and ask what made them decide to stop in tonight. Just be ready to read between the lines and translate the answer you get.
Your main job is to figure out what your target wants and then decide whether or not you want to give it to him. Sometimes it is as simple as conversation (use SS to make sure you still get paid), sometimes it is a dance that equates to little more than a three minute hug, sometimes it's an all-out grope fest. Sometimes it's even more than that.
Figure out what he wants, decide on your limits, and put the offer on the table. You will score more often than not. Not to mention that you'll learn a skill that you will use the rest of your life, regardless of what the future holds. ;)
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"Friendly" and "slutty" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. It may be that being both friendly AND slutty makes the most money.
Not only do I wholeheartedly agree with this, but if "friendly" and "slutty" were put on two opposite ends of a spectrum, then "coy" might be in the middle, embodying a nice middle ground where both sensual and extroverted qualities might be exhibited. It's finding that thin line that appeals to the largest percentage of guys... the 'happy but subtley sexy.' In my experience, not too many guys ACTually go for the 'blowjob' introduction... nor will they go for a girl who looks like she might talk about hopscotch all day. However, a girl who can pull off both classy and naughty at the same time is definitely going to do well.
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Not only do I wholeheartedly agree with this, but if "friendly" and "slutty" were put on two opposite ends of a spectrum, then "coy" might be in the middle, embodying a nice middle ground where both sensual and extroverted qualities might be exhibited.
Exactly! I think it's important for her to say things that get a sexual rise out of the customer. More than making simple small talk, her conversation should be strategically focused on seducing him. (Body language, too.) She should be saying things deliberately calculated to elicit an emotional and sexual response, not carrying on the routine chatter of a typical social conversation. Starting off coy lends itself well to adjusting to a more direct or more subtle approach as needed, contingent on how explicit his responses are. IMHO.
-Ev
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I agree completely. There is a complex balance between sexual aggressiveness and demur behavior that attracts males. I could spend dozens of pages explaining why, but if you take it on faith that it's true, your job then is to find the balance and adjust some either way for the particular customer (some of which will want more sexuality, some of which will want more of the demur behavior). Personally I think there is a whole world of sexuality that two people can share playing back and forth between the different ends of the spectrum, but that's another story for another (drunken) time ;)
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In my case, I don't think the approach matters one iota, unless you say something to turn me off. I usually have decided before you say a word whether I am interested in doing any dances, so I guess I prefer not even being approached. I am quite capable of making my interest in a dancer known. I can't think of anything she might say that would convince me to do a dance when I otherwise might not. I think I have seen and heard it all.
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nor will they go for a girl who looks like she might talk about hopscotch all day.
I think it would be AMAZING to find a girl who could talk about hopscotch all day while simultaneously dancing naked on my lap. I'd keep buying until she began to repeat herself. About hopscotch, that is. (What kind of hoppy taw do YOU like best?)
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I can't imagine that there is one good answer to this question. Some customers will respond to slutty and others will respond to sweet. Often the same customer will respond to different approaches on different days.
This is where the intelligent dancer will cash in. You only have a few seconds to determine which kind of customer you have and adapt your game appropriately. Perhaps you can hold back on acting slutty until you're sure it will work. Once you've gone in that direction, you can't undo the first impression.
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Answer= No preference. My "real" preference 8) is approach that seems the least contrived/phony. So, if you're feeling nice, be nice. :) If you're feeling slutty.........}:D }:D
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I'll give you a perfect example of a conversation in this club! Hey baby you having a good night? Well, why don't we go over here in vip so I can feel on that cock! Is that how the conversation is supposed to go?
watch out, saying shit like that is considered soilicitation and u could get really busted.
Also, a gentleman doesnt want to hear that.
It's better to be vague and say stuff like "lets get to know each other better" or "lets go somewhe private where we can be more comfortable"
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I personally enjoy a high mileage dance, and if a dancer implied that she was game for it I'd be all in. Sometimes I'll bait her by asking (playfully) why I should get a dance from her instead of some other dancer. If she's smart she'll take that as a cue that I'm looking for more than an air dance from a cute girl, and the ball is in her court.
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Do you guys prefer for a girl to approach you in a friendly manner or a slutty manner?
-- >Sigh< As someone has already pointed out, "us guys" are individuals, & besides that there are times & times; the answer is no one approach works for all. I think your best bet is to try different approaches & see how things go.
For me, body lang is most important. You can say almost anything, & if you touch me &/or rub against me, I start thinking, "gee, I like this girl." But that's me, & I don't have that much money anyway. To repeat another reply, read your custy; know the house culture; & be clear abt what *you're* comfortable w/. How do you communicate to a guy that you're interested in him in the "real" world? That's prolly a good place to start. You can even ask him, "What do you like?" And WATCH *HIS* BODY LANG! Is he orienting toward you? Holding eye contact? Opening his posture? Or is he getting tense? The best book on BL I know of is "Body Language Secrets" by R. Don Steele <http://www.steelballs.com/read_more/bls_more.html> -- this preview is mainly for guys, but the book has a lot of stuff for women. Do you move in? Have you tried moving up to about 6 inches from him? Careful: some guys will get threatened -- look for signs of tension & be ready to move back, but if you have to, *pretend that nothing happened!* I have actually had dancers cop a quick feel of my crotch, even in "nice" clubs (but this is rare).
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Its seems that I'm just not what guys are looking for! If I had a dollar for everytime I heard the words "your beautiful", I'd be rich!
-- So you're clearly someone men like to look *at*. That's a good start! How to get to the next level? Mebbe "Thanks! I'm a lot of fun, too, if you give me a chance. . . " If guys tell you you're beautiful that often, they may be feeling a bit scared/intimidated. If that's the case, you need to encourage them to relax; try acting a little bashful or goofy. Again, watch his BL! Are you relaxed yourself, or do you feel a lot of "performance anxiety?" Maybe you're just trying too hard.
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Whenever someone tells me that I give them a big warm smile and ask their name and if they're having a good time and a little more small talk! What am I doing wrong?
-- Again, this sounds like a good start. You might try something like, "Awww. . . really?" If you can convince him that the compliment really means something to you -- you admire him so much that you're *so* grateful for his praise that you'd do *anything* to thank him if you could just get a little privacy -- you get the idea. Of course, pulling this off w/ a straight face *can* be a challenge. . . . ;D
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It seems like the sluts are making the money or is that what you have to present yourself as to make money? Please help me!!!!
-- OK. Do you really know how much these 'sluts' are making vs. other styles? Every 'school' has its more & less successful girls.
Anyway, I get a sense that *maybe* guys sorta think, "She's too good for me" or (or he's *really* clutched up), "I can't desecrate her." In that case slutty *might* be a total turn-*off*. You may need to build him up 'til he feels confident enuf to think abt getting a dance. I can't say, I just hope some of these ideas work for you.
My fave dancers have always been those who convinced me that they really like men (well, clean, well-mannered men @ least). You might also try enthusiasm & playfulness.
& one thing I've learned abt Life is that *nothin'* works all the time. Times are hard. Everyone is gonna have bad nights. We all gotta persist & learn the best we can.
Happy Hunting,
Rip