best clubs and surroundign states for ohio girls escaping the new law?
I think it would do us some good to have a thread for girls wanting to dance out of state but close to home. weekend trips to clubs etc.
i live near cleveland, about an hour south. im considering indiana, pa, and wv but im not at all hopefull of finding anything good in wv.
i even considered windsor, ON.
any advice appreciated for us ohio girls.
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If I get back into dancing anytime soon, I plan to work in Indianapolis or Lousiville.
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any specific clubs and their rundowns?
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I'm down to travel but man... Such a haul from Columbus for every weekend of working.
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Clubs in Wierton, WV might be okay (okay meaning 3-400+). It's been a couple years since I've been there, tho. If you can handle the BS I think you'd do well at Erotica in Pittsburgh (high contact, good money, no schedule). It's been a couple years since I've been there too tho, so take all that with a grain of salt.
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For the Cincy area gals Brads Brass Flamingo in Indy (straight shot from HW 74) maybe 1.5 hours from Cincy..
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in general, you can forget about Windsor or other Canadian border clubs. Besides the work visa issue, there's also the issue of the US dollar exchange rate keeping American customers away. You'd be better off trying Michigan clubs.
Indy clubs are a possibility ... but the region has taken some economic hits so it's hard to project earnings potential. There's also the issue that, between local girls and Ohio girls who didn't wait until the new law actually went into effect, the 'better' Indy clubs are certain to have zero shortage of dancers.
Pittsburgh also has possibilities ... if you're comfortable with the contact levels. Also it's highly probable that contact levels will get even higher as more and more 'desparate' dancers begin crossing the border (which the club customers will definitely pick up on).
I really don't mean to be overly pessimistic, but if you live in Ohio and are going to continue relying on dancing to pay the bills, there appear to be two choices ...
#1 - pack up and move to a different state where dancing provides some serious earnings potential
#2 - plan on breaking the new law on a nightly basis i.e. providing lots of customer contact in the VIP room. Put aside the money for bail / lawyer. Accept that black marks on your permanent record are a 'cost of doing business'. This will devolve to a revolving door policy of busts and plea bargains, but will probably provide much more earnings potential than you were raking in before the new law went into effect.
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im going back to my club for the first time since the law passed tonite, ill update everyone on our situation soon.
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'you can forget about Windsor or other Canadian border".....
How about Detroit? Its not that much further from Cleveland than Pittsburg would be. For Columbus dancers, its almost a 3 way wash b/t Pit., Detr., & Indy. 8) Best of luck to all in the days ahead.
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I highly recommend that Ohio dancers stay away from Michigan clubs. If you're willing to drive any direction, go to surrounding states other than Michigan. Indiana's economy, as well as Pennsylvania's and pretty much any other state, is much better than Michigan's. With the travel expenses, unless you're willing to move to Michigan so not have them, it would be a pretty difficult scenario.
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I would just move further away. The neighboring states/clubs are gonna be so flooded with OH girls that those places may not even offer enough earnings potential to justify the travel expense.
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Windsor wouldn't work... boarder is cracking down on cross boarder dancing. Too risky..
Sorry Melonie but the clubs there are not dying. Canadian boarder clubs are still rocking, there has been zero impact on business there.
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Sorry Melonie but the clubs there are not dying. Canadian boarder clubs are still rocking, there has been zero impact on business there.
In the context of an American dancer attempting to work in a Canadian border club, you've undeniably got the work visa issue ... you've got the Canadian income being reported to the US IRS issue ... and now you've also got the US border patrol database checking that the same person is attempting to cross the Canadian border at the same time on the same day of the week issue.
As to a falloff in Canadian border club business due to a drop in US customers crossing the border, I obviously can't speak for Windsor but I can sure speak for Buffalo - Niagara Falls. The US guys are all saying that they now have to waste an hour at the border plus now having to pay a 'much higher price' (in US dollar terms) for drinks and dances in Canadian border clubs. Of course, many US customers are still willing to put up with this in exchange for the heavy duty 'extras' that are typically available in Canadian border clubs - but many are not.
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Try Club Erotica in Pittsburgh, but ONLY on a Thurs, Fri, or Sat because the weekdays can be too much of a risk if you have a long drive. On these days you can make 300-400 average and stage fees are low (25 on weekends, no stage fee weekdays). You drink for free but that is limited to the dressing room because there is no drinking or smoking allowed on the floor by dancers. Dances (full contact but no touching allowed on the customers part) are 20 you keep half, CRs (touching is permitted ONLY if and what you are comfortable with) are 125 for 15 min, 200 for half but the club keeps 60 percent of that (always ask for tips: guys expect it and it can double your money). Management is fair for the most part, but some of the girls are notoriously bitchy and immature, most are nice though. Tip out to bouncers and dj is optional but most girls do tip if they haven't done too bad. No dress code either, which is nice. Stage is pretty good money because it's mandatory to tip if sitting down and customers don't have much choice since those are the only seats in the club. If you strictly do stage all night long on a Saturday you can make 400 just from that alone, but its VERY hard work.
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That's it. I'm relocating this summer.