I think it is all a little immature ... One would hope that a human ( even a woman ;) ) is more than just the sum of their parts or even their pubes.
ANd IMark - in the end we are all frickin' animals with cool toys!!!
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I think it is all a little immature ... One would hope that a human ( even a woman ;) ) is more than just the sum of their parts or even their pubes.
ANd IMark - in the end we are all frickin' animals with cool toys!!!
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Ohhhhhhh k.
Well I wish him luck in what he chooses but just remember a good partner isn't always easy to find. She's smart and stimulating and it reminds me of these wise words...
If I could offer one piece of advice to the planet, it would be this: Don't marry for looks alone, and I'll tell you why. In a few years, when Barbara's boobs start sagging, she can get plastic surgery, have them lifted, move the nipple wherever. You can actually go to a titty bar, pick out a set of titties and say, "I want those titties on that woman." If her belly gets too big, she can get a tummy tuck and have a belly like a cheerleader. If her vision goes bad, you can have LASIK surgery and have 20/20 vision. If her hearing goes bad, they can install a device in her ear that will give you hearing as clear as it was the day you were born. But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix stupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. Stupid is forever.
By Mr Ron White
says a person who can't get over pubic hair.
Look hon sometimes you get the chance to pick and choose who you want but it's really upsetting when a person spend their entire life searching for something and someone who doesn't meet their expectations and one day sasy "I am so lonely, why didn't I make things work"
I am saying this to you as a person who sees her mother unhappy because she is alone and wishing that she would of been a little bit more flexible with her standards. IF the girl likes you and you want to make it work perhaps she will trim for you but then again if she doesn't maybe you can look in to why she doesn't want to shave. Also is there a reason, perhaps a psychological reason you do not find pubic hair attractive? Perhaps it triggers a bad feeling from your youth?
I know of someone who can not feel leg hairs on their partner due to sexual abuse. I myself can not have a person with facial hair because it repulsive me, because I was molested as a child by a person who had a beard and the feeling of it brings panic, nausea and it makes me ill, is this something like what you feel if your partner has pubic hair?
wow, there step away from the extrapolation machine.
I don't like pubic hair; because I don't like pubic hair.
1 - It doesn't look nice (IMO)
2 - It gets stuck in your teeth
3 - It feels like wire wool.
Simple as that; if a girl that I am seeing and am into enough to consider the long haul can't do something as simple as shave some hair folics off to accommodate me than maybe she isn't person I thought she was.
If it was you asking your boyfriend to keep clean shaven because its your preference would there be a hang up? Of course there wouldn't be.
Well you like what you like, good luck.
Well, I think this is more of a social fad then anything else. Nothing wrong with it, but unless there is some good genetic reason for disliking it, I write it off to fad of the moment.
True, however oral sex is not what our genes have trained for. Oral sex is another fad kind of thing. Not that I don't enjoy it, but it's not something really needed to procreate or get off even.
Depends on the person. Pubic hair is generally quite soft if it grows out. In fact too short can feel stubbly and sticky and has it's own negative sensation.
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The point is you really don't need to justify why you prefer it that way. It's enough to know that in our current society it is increasingly becoming popular. But who knows. It wouldn't take much of a change, or a move to a society with greater problems, and you may well find it's pretty much the last thing on anyone's mind. But there is nothing wrong with wanting it the way you want it.
Besides, look at the large number of females here who have made it clear, if a man's penis is too small for their vaginal size, they aren't going to stay with him. It doesn't align with their sexual wants, and makes it harder (or impossible) to orgasm. So if long hair is a major turn off for a guy making it hard for him to enjoy sex, and it is more important than things like her personality, other features, etc., so be it. We are all capable of seeing any one trait, even something like pubic hair, as a deal breaker.
not in my case. i dont like it. i wouldnt care if i dated 10 guys in a row who loved hair, i would fucking hate it. i think its gross and looks much better without.
i wouldnt be able to get over it.
i completely agree, too, about it NOT making girls look young.
I hope this is taken in the diplomatic spirit in which it was intended:
While I agree that the statements about preferring hairless genitalia making one something like a pedophile go a bit far (as others have pointed out, we shave our pits/faces/legs and the result isn't equated with looking childlike), I think it's fair to consider how their POVs originated.
There are lots of us who came of age many years before shaving your pubes became de riguer. We looked forward to growing it as a sign of adulthood. Porn of the day, from Playboy to Hustler to amateur rags, all showed bushes. Sometimes spread, sometimes not, sometimes trimmed, sometimes not, but still, if it was an adult woman, even a young woman, there was hair. In the locker room, we all saw each other's genitals; same thing there. I remember girls in junior high being embarrassed to undress in front of each other if they hadn't grown pubic hair yet.
I do remember the first time I saw a shaved-bare pussy, and honestly, it was disturbing! It was included in porn that was geared towards the fetishy. I've talked to other friends about their first exposure to it, too, and they had similar reactions. It's not hard to understand. Because the only adult genitals WE had ever seen HAD HAIR, the only genitals that DID NOT were prepubescent ones. Children's.
That's essentially where that POV comes from for many. I am NOT saying that anyone is wrong to have a preference. At all. And things have definitely changed. Porn fashions changed, stripper's fashions changed, and the locker room is now a fairly trimmed and tidy place. I know that teenage girls now routinely start shaving their pubic hair along with their underarms, and I don't have a problem with it. Despite my initial reaction of being weirded out by it, I've more than gotten used to it (obviously, heh), and do quite a bit of trimming myself (rarely bare, usually somewhere between landing strip and well-groomed), for the record. ;D
I just thought it was worth trying to explain the origins. There really was a time - and not that long ago - that it was totally uncommon, and the initial comparison was logically of that to a child. I say whatever floats your boat!
^^Well explained. Taking the context of when and how bare pussy became popular is important to considering everyone's perspectives on it. Me, I love being bare and wouldn't ever feel comfortable stripping if I had hair. And it makes physical sensations ever so much more enjoyable and helps my self-perception of cleanliness.
And really I don't find it any more or less unusual than any other physical preferences. Quite easily fixed, after all.
So true. Social fads come and go. Nothing wrong with them, but I'm reasonably sure that this is another one. Emotionally it's fine to be turned off, but there is still something to be said for being mature enough to see a social fad for what it is, temporary, and in truth, a fairly shallow preference that is just as likely to change in the near future.
Well done, Rose White!
It is true that while growing up we saw Playboy magazine centerfolds with dense, matted, jungle growths, and no one was likely to present an ultimatum to one of them, lol! You might see the occasional totally shaved woman in Hustler, say, and it was kind of freaky.
I think the skimpiness of bikinis in the 80s and the proliferation of stripclubs had a lot to do with the trend. Since the area was being exposed, it made sense to trim and cultivate it neatly. Then one thing led to another, and now we have nothing there.
It is very nice indeed to have the soft, smooth skin in that area untrammeled, I must say--but I suppose it has been an acquired taste in many of us.
On a side not, the story of the locker room shyness due to lack of pubic hair brought back the memory of an ugly incident that turned around for me, a very late bloomer, when a bunch of jeering jocks all shut the fuck up when one of them ripped my towel away, that I was desperately clutching to hide myself. I was still mortifed, though. Motherfuckers...at the time I didn't get it, if I had then I would have been laughing at them in turn.
Awww. IrishMarc isn't st00pid----he just had a bad experience. (I'm thinking it was the girl's taste--hair or no hair--that got stuck in your mouth/mind for 3 days!)
I can see girls being offended, but your preference is your preference, and it has to do with hygiene as well, so yr not....st00pid.
I once had a old dude explain to me why he loved it so much---cuz it was "new" to him, and hair is old-fashioned, just like Rose White pointed out.
Marc, I don't think you mean to say, you wouldn't sleep with her if she had ANY at all, just not a ton, right? What do you think of a lil strip or whatever?
I mean, anyone that would complain about an amount ranging from a strip, to a neatly trimmed full amount---that's a little crazy.
Also just wanted to throw in----guys, no matter what---don't forget the pain and effort it takes to keep things at bay. It's nowhere near the level you guys go thru to trim yr nuts, and nowhere near as optional. There's pressure, there's pain, and we have to attend to it like minimum once a week, sometimes more. Just don't forget it, mmkay?
But it is a particular type of person who can be told they are disgusting and still have the self esteem to return, or perhaps just no self esteem?
The reason I think people say it makes you look like a child is because most ppl dont see nude genitals on females that are past puberty, seriously most people dont. I think working in the "sex industry" (or whatever ya want to call it) gives us a bit of a different perspective on these things, but seriously it isn't average behavior for girls to shave their genitals (well more so in the past few years but still) and when you see a naked vagina, especially if you have ever had children, it can pop into your head that it looks like a child's. coz it does. But obviously the rest of the body makes a hell of a difference.
I haven't read through every response, but perhaps she just doesn't know much about grooming down there. I never had my mom teach me that stuff and had to sort of figure it out on my own. I say if you bring it up, do it in a positive manner. Don't say it's a turn off like it is, but maybe say how hot you find a certain type of grooming (bald, landing strip, etc.) It may just not be something she's given much thought to.
I think this is kind of where I was coming from with my response. I'm older than a lot of the girls on here and I remember my momma had a BUSH! And when I asked her about grooming down there she basically made it sound lke shaving it wasn't an option. So for years I didn't know that was even an option.
I think the pedofile comments are off the wall. I dont mind short and trimmed, but I hate a bush. Sue me.
If I shave completely doesnt mean that I want to "look like a little girl" or even want someone to look at ME that way.
;D I hope someone borrows this story & writes it into a teen movie.
Back on topic, I only sympathize with IrishMarc because I have lots of hair and if I don't bathe & deodorize often, I get.....redolent. Ripe, whatever you wanna call it I wouldn't ask a man to stick his face in that. Hair is porous and collects body scent and oil.
More honestly, I am just jealous he is tapping Irish booty when many American girls would kill for a chance to bed an Irish guy. They have so...much...game. If not for club bullshit rules, I would have pounded the Irish guys I've met at work so hard it would put the groove in the Blarney Stone to shame.
I don't agree with this. I have been a stripper for one year and I have shaved/waxed/lasered away my pubes since they grew! Yes I shaved them straight away.
As for arguments that it's natural etc, so what? Haven't we evolved past the stage where just because something is natural we have to put up with it?
HHL you are obviously offended by the fact that the OP doesn't like pubic hair. I don't understand this but it is his preference. I don't like men with beards, hairy bodies or pubic hair. I would not dump a guy for it but I would tell him he should get rid of the hair.
Bottom line is - if you want someone to go down on you don't expect them to put up with a mouth full of short and curlies.
I don't know if that is a matter of evolution... but no we don't have to put up with it. However, it still seems a little bit weird to me if people make that a dealbreaker.
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HHL you are obviously offended by the fact that the OP doesn't like pubic hair. I don't understand this but it is his preference
Weirdly enough, I actually feel a little offended. I think it was nicely said above that one might think even a woman is more than the sum of her pubes (heh heh). I understand a preference, but the "What should I do?" post, like pubic hair is some kind of STI is a little weird to me.
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Bottom line is - if you want someone to go down on you don't expect them to put up with a mouth full of short and curlies.