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Paid to chat?
I've noticed a lot of the guys who I make the most money off of are the ones that just want to sit and have a drink and chat with you, but usually, these guys are handoffs from our VIP host, and they are doing this in the champagne room.
I'm trying to figure out what the best approach to asking these guys to pay you to sit (on the floor, not necessarily in CR) and have a drink with you. What's you're pitch ladies? Obviously this would be money untouched by the club and much much easier than dancing if you find the right guy...
Any thoughts?
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Re: Paid to chat?
We have all had a customer who wants to sit/chat and will gladly pay you for your time. I've found these types to be a rare breed. There are a few good ideas to break the ice and offer your customer to pay you for your time, but in my experience those that want to talk your ear off are not willing to pay for it. (they'd rather suck your time dry)
P.S. Do a search because I'm sure there are quite a few of the same issues in other threads.
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I think finding these guys is luck. Keeping them is skill.
They are rare, so you can't hustle every talker to pay you for your time. Perfect your VIP hustle instead. The sitting on the floor and getting slipped $20's and $100's is luck luck luck. A lot of times they will find you. I had one last night who tipped me a $20 on stage. I thought he was an easy dance and most likely a VIP, but after I approached he ended up slipping me $100 twice to sit and hang. I find these types of guys are impossible to find if you look for them, and difficult to keep if you do.
I think there are two types of guys that will pay you to sit and chat/hang on the main floor: Type A will have about 4-8 girls around him. There's usually an inner circle of girls that are getting paid, an outer circle of sharks that want to get paid and never do, and a few that only stick around until they are drunk enough to continue the shift. I used to often end up in the shark tier and have now realized it's a waste of time. Belonging in this inner circle is usually by invitation only, not by creative sales pitch. Type B will want to really engage in conversation or sit and hold your hand and play a wife/girlfriend role. They usually sit against a wall or in a corner. I always try to get this guy into a VIP so don't have to play a guessing game and waste time seeing if he'll hand over yet another $100. There's an art to knowing when to excuse yourself from these guys. If you're not good at it, get him into VIP. I've done it both ways.
There really is no pitch because they are so rare. I think of a pitch this way: The guy has money to spend (I always assume this), and I just have to pitch him ideas of how he can spend it. This type already knows how he's going to spend his money, and his only choice is on whom to spend it. No pitch necessary. The money is in keeping the guy and knowing when to politely clip him when you're not getting paid anymore.
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^^agreed, unless they are already a regular that I have established a relationship with, finding them proves to be tough. When I think back everytime I have sat (in the main room) and been slipped 20s or 100s consistantly and adding up to 1000 or more, was pure luck. No hustle different than normal, they just felt like giving I guess. If I am sitting w/ someone and it's not clear what my compensation will be (and we are just talking) I will initiate a dance or try to sell a champ room. If he says he prefers to talk , I mention that my fees are the same whether we dance or talk (with a smile) and either he agrees or I move on.
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Very good observations, Paintgoddess! I agree completely.