how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
this happens to me at least a couple times a month. i'm sitting with a guy (usually older) and i bring up dances after a couple songs or maybe a drink. he says he doesn't get dances (for whatever reason) but enjoys my company. then he says how he doesn't want me to feel like he doesn't understand that i work for money...
all is good up till this point.
then he reaches into his wallet and tips me... we'll say a 20 dollar bill.. since that's the most common.
then he says something like "is that ok?" or "is that enough"
i always have a hard time with this. how do i let him know that it's ok for the time i've -ALREADY- spent with him, but if he wants me to stay i'll need more, without totally ruining the flow or putting him off? or sounding like i have some "speech" about it? .... i'm sure this has happened to you guys before...
most guys who tip for convo are pretty "seasoned" and will just tip 20s fairly frequently thoughout without me bringing it up. either that or they will tip me a generous amount up front (or up front and again at the end).
but how do i deal with these guys who don't seem to understand how much is common/acceptable?
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
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Pretty_Penny
then he says something like "is that ok?" or "is that enough"
Say: "It's a perfect down payment!" lol. ;)
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
Ah yes. I tell these 'talkers' i need to go make money in a few minutes but would rather spend more time with him.
I feel if the guy gave me money for convo. he will do it again if i make it clear i need to go hustle. They have to like talking with you. Buying the customer one drink is cool (after he tips you for convo) and keep him entertained with your wit, charm and sexuality. Flirt, laugh and he'll most likely give out again once you say in a "weak manner" (kinda bummer attitude) you got to leave him to make money.
I found guys who tip for convo. like to be in control. So if i sounded kinda bummed i had to leave him, it made him want me more and paid yet again.
I dunno it's the "i like you so much, and hate to leave you" attitude.
;)
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I rarely get tipped for conversation on the floor, but when a guy wants to sit and talk, I explain how it's so much quieter in VIP, esp. if we're right under a speaker, then i'll make a good joke about "SO I DONT HAVE TO SCREEEAAAMMM AT YOU!" and most times it does work. plus, it's a more intimate setting and we aren't required to dance. also, throw in, "that way, we wont be bothered by other girls, waitresses or other customers."
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I say, "it's enough for now" and giggle. Then every couple songs tell him it's time to feed the meter.
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
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Lena
I say, "it's enough for now" and giggle. Then every couple songs tell him it's time to feed the meter.
Funny....I just made a thread with basically the same question!! ;D
Lena, so saying this doesnt scare them away or piss them off??
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Chrissy68
I rarely get tipped for conversation on the floor, but when a guy wants to sit and talk, I explain how it's so much quieter in VIP, esp. if we're right under a speaker, then i'll make a good joke about "SO I DONT HAVE TO SCREEEAAAMMM AT YOU!" and most times it does work. plus, it's a more intimate setting and we aren't required to dance. also, throw in, "that way, we wont be bothered by other girls, waitresses or other customers."
Yup. Thats exactly what I do.
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Zinaida
Say: "It's a perfect down payment!" lol. ;)
I like that one!
Well, my favorite line is .....(said with a smile of course!)......"Oh no honey, we must have had a mistunderstanding, I charge by the word"
I act like I'm adding something up in my head, get a worried look and say "umm, I might have to bill you in installments...it's adding up!"
I laugh, which means he laughs, usually gets the point and it lightens the mood a bit.
When i comes to conversation - even though you care about the money, it's better when guys think you don't care about the money, then they tend to give you more money. Hmm. ::)
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
Rule #1 -keep trying to get them into a VIP room. Then the time:money ratio is set in stone and you don't have to worry about 'asking'.
Try to remember - You are selling not asking. Your time has a cash value and you are not a beggar, so it should not be hard to bring it up (the sale). Frankly you might as well just lay it out like it's the best offer he's ever gonna hear. "I like you and I want to stay with you in private. Buy us a room for $500. You know you want to, don't you?" Fuck for all I know he showed up in a $100k car, or he has a stack of hundreds in his wallet. You might as well ask before some other ho does. You always need to go for the room, if you are just taking $20 here and there, you are selling yourself short.
Rule #2 - Incase all else fails and you have to nickel and dime him for each $20, always wear a garter, that way you can just lift up the garter and look at him, he will get the point (its universal stripper language for 'pay meeeee!'), but you don't have to actually say anything, or keep coming up with things to say.
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
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Zinaida
Say: "It's a perfect down payment!" lol. ;)
That's cute. ;)
I always tell them that they need to continue to feed the meter, once they've tipped me the first time. That makes them laugh... but they get it.
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Lena
I say, "it's enough for now" and giggle. Then every couple songs tell him it's time to feed the meter.
Hahaha! Lena, I just saw this. Works, huh? ;)
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242_fair
always wear a garter, that way you can just lift up the garter and look at him, he will get the point (its universal stripper language for 'pay meeeee!')
haha, so true
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
^Yes! I've had guys eye my garter during the conversation, and they'll usually just end up slipping the money in themselves throughout (the smart ones at least) because they know what it's there for. I never work without a garter on.
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
for me it has always worked out. the convo will start and well say he gives me a 20 for sitting about a song and a half roughly, we will continue talking but after that next song or so im trying to get up. you can give me 20 bucks here and there and even if you dont want to do dances or vip its not profitable talking to a guy for song after song after song for 20 bucks here and there when i can get 20 per song usually once i get bummed out and say i really love this convo and hate to leave you then explain the math of 20 per song( i love it when they get brand new and act like they dont know whats going on) they usually pay me for like 10 songs right then and we go from there which usually ends up in vip or them paying me more money.
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glitterbaby
I worked with a girl who wore 2 garters for exactly this reason. The custy would put money in her garter for convo then she would pull out the other garter and say "this one too" I never tried it but it seemed to work pretty well for her. she would do this with stage money and for other tips too.
I do this when I'm on stage when I take the tips in my thong. I say something like... "oh no, now this side is heavier... you better put another one on the other side so I don't fall over!" This actually works :)
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^Hhhmmm... I may have to try that. I've never worn 2 garters before. Does it look as sexy with the outfit? I always wear strings and then 1 garter on my left leg. I've always liked how it looks... having that one specially decorated left leg. Nevertheless, I'll probably try it.
Re: how do you girls deal with this? (regaurding tipping for convo)
Last night it was deader than dead, but I found that one guy......
I spent pretty much the whole night with him, but he liked to talk, ALOT. Every two songs he would want to take a break and sit and talk. Which is cool, but I really needed to make money. The past week has been super dead, and I had some unexpected repairs with my car this week that is going to set me back a little.
So at the end of the night, he asked what he owed and I said "Well, we did xx dances, so at xx dollars a piece, that's xx$. But, it doesn't mean that's what you have to pay me. Pay me what you think my time and conversation was worth"
So he goes, "Well in that case, here ya go...." And tipped me very well on top of what he owed me for dances.
Usually I have had a hard time dealing with how to ask for this in the past, but I decided last night that fuck it, I needed money so I gave it a shot...
I'm sure not every guy is going to be this cool, but lets hope it works in the future cause I get the talkers alot.