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Going to Nursing School in France
Can anybody provide links or information about going to college in France as an American? I've been on Google for a while now and no dice.
R has a job interview for a job in Grenoble, France and I'd like to know if I am even able to go to college for nursing in France at all...like how does it even work for a non EU resident....? Do I have to be a resident first? Become proficient in french? If I end up moving to France, and someday move back to the US, how would my nursing degree transfer? (could I work as an RN in the USA with a French degree)?
And help, thanks in advance!
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It looks like (according to www.edufrance.fr) that you have to be proficient in French and take a placement exam and/or score in the top 2% of foreign nationals?
Hmm... It's had to tell. I'll ask my French friend tomorrow, she should know.
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Where would you be practicing as a nurse? You'll have to take the American NCLEX in order to be a nurse here in the USA.
It's good to know that there are more fellow nurses out there! I'm graduating in May with my RN!
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I assume you would have to be proficient in French. Do you speak it?
I'm not going to look it up, but I'm pretty sure youd have to take a placement/equivalency test to work in the US, as doctors and midwives from Canada have to.
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the acceptance of foreign credentials is a bit more difficult if the foreign country falls outside of NAFTA.
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I don't speak it yet, but if he gets the job thats the first things I plan to do-learn French! :P
I'm really nervous about possibly having to score in the top 2% of foreign nations....what happens if I don't? Will I simply not be allowed to go to school?! Please say that ain't so :'(
Melonie, what's NAFTA?
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BrunetteGoddess
I don't speak it yet, but if he gets the job thats the first things I plan to do-learn French! :P
I'm really nervous about possibly having to score in the top 2% of foreign nations....what happens if I don't? Will I simply not be allowed to go to school?! Please say that ain't so :'(
Melonie, what's NAFTA?
NAFTA - North American Free Trade Agreement, (US, Canada, Mexico)
If you go to France, once your immersed in the language you should be able to place. Learning French and speaking / reading it proficiently are 2 different things.
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this link should get you started on what you need to know about higher education in France
I've got to warn you though that the French are EXREEMLY selective about who qualifies for acceptance into even basic University programs, their own citizens often don't make the cut.
Most of those who don't make it go to vocational schools. The higher education system there is split into those two groups and kids are guided into one or the other around age 15/16.
it's not particularly easy to get into school for something like nursing even for people born and raised in France. It's even harder to get in for all the rest. In other words you should seriously consider a solid back up plan.
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BG, I've been speaking French my whole life, went to French school (incl. high school), and I'd be unsure about my ability to keep up in a French nursing program.
It doesn't seem realistic.
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:'(
Well fuck. Nursing is the only thing I really want to do that allows me to work practically anywhere, which is important since R's field is so limited.
:'(
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Would you be moving to France permanently? Or is it a temp placement? If its temp, then you can more than likely sort out a way to do your first term r maybe even first year via distance ed through an American school.
If you'd be moving there permanently, then you'd need to learn French anyways. You'll figure something out. :)
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If he got the job and got through the 6-8 month probation period, it would be permanent as long as he had the job. I don't know.
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Probably a little off topic but I've never been able to realistically use my nursing qualifications outside of Oz, just something to think about when studying O/S, make absolutely sure your qualifications can be used in other countries, I was told I could and well, I can't, so yeah.
XXXS
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Tara_SW
I've got to warn you though that the French are EXREEMLY selective about who qualifies for acceptance into even basic University programs, their own citizens often don't make the cut.
Most of those who don't make it go to vocational schools. The higher education system there is split into those two groups and kids are guided into one or the other around age 15/16.
it's not particularly easy to get into school for something like nursing even for people born and raised in France. It's even harder to get in for all the rest. In other words you should seriously consider a solid back up plan.
This is all true. I studied French in high school & we learned about the aforementioned exam process. IMO I wish the States would do that for young people here.
& The French are delighted when someone bothers to learn their language. It is a wonderful language with many cognates (similar sounding words) to English vocabulary...You will HAVE to learn French to have a pleasant time there.
Bon voyage if you go.
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BrunetteGoddess
:'(
Well fuck. Nursing is the only thing I really want to do that allows me to work practically anywhere, which is important since R's field is so limited.
:'(
I don't know about that. My sister is in nursing school right now and they were all told that it's relatively easy to move between Canada and the USA (and the United Kingdom to some extent) with a nursing degree, but almost impossible to qualify for licensing in any other country. Basically, the doctors are the only ones with a decent amount of freedom (depending of course on where they got their degrees from) and that's only because there's an international shortage. The medical field sucks for moving around internationally. I actually know a lady who was an ear, throat and nose specialist in China and didn't even qualify to be a nurses aid in Canada. Last I heard, she was waitressing.
Going to school in France is going to be nearly impossible. You might have a chance at working as a nurse in France if you get your degree in the US and then just focus on getting fluent in the language once you get there. Luckily, US and Canadian degrees are internationally recognized, hence why our universities are full of visiting students all the time.
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Well, I didn't mean for international travel, I meant I could go just about anywhere in the US.
And if R gets the France job, then I wouldn't have time to get my degree here. I haven't been able to start yet.
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Oh hell, every hospital in North America is crying for nurses. You'd be set for life. If I had the patience to put up with the hours and the bullshit I'd be in nursing school myself right now. You can pretty well just finish the degree and you're basically guaranteed a good paying and secure job.
But if you have to go to France...you can always take advantage of web courses from a North American university and get your degree like that. I'm sure a lot of people have done that.
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Being a french-speaker (or nearly fluent) is definitely a necessity. I was seriously contemplating applying to a few schools in paris... it would have been impossible had i not been proficient at the time... France is amazing. if this happens, I envy you. I love that country...
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scarlett_vancouver
BG, I've been speaking French my whole life, went to French school (incl. high school), and I'd be unsure about my ability to keep up in a French nursing program.
It doesn't seem realistic.
I have to agree. I've just started being able to do some research & reading (art history/archaeology) in French and ye gods! So many words I didn't know, so much dictionary use. (I learned it as a child as well, though I'm only in third year college French). I do have copies of French Pimsleur language program level 2 &3. I might have the first level as well. It's great for speaking and comprehending.
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Seriously, speaking as a qualified nurse, and a traveller, despite the worldwide shortage it is still not easy to get a job elsewhere than the country you were educated in, including the US (Maybe if you are educated in france you'd have more freedom within the EU). You need to have at least 2 years experience in the field, are or have very recently been registered in the country of your diploma's origin, apply to recieve workplace training or supervised practice (can be up to six months), after this you must apply to be considered for registration. etc etc etc, it's a lengthy and annoying process. Trust me, i've tried.
XXXS
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Yea I just recently worked with a girl who was an RN in Europe and she moved to Canada and she can't use her degree at all and she was working for 5 years.
Shes now dancing and not impressed she can't use her degree and do what she loves.
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Yeah, unfortunately I don't think a foreign health degree is going to transfer the same into the U.S. I'm going into the health care field too and a requirement for foreign student is that they have to take a ton of classes and basically start over again here to be able to qualify.
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BrunetteGoddess
I don't speak it yet, but if he gets the job thats the first things I plan to do-learn French! :P
As a huge fan of languages, and a lifelong student of them, I can guarantee you cannot just up and "learn French." Especially once a person has reached a certain age. Pronounciation becomes more difficult. It has to do with the cognitive aspects of language.
Perhaps after a year of total immersion you might be profficient enough to take a class in French. Big maybe though.
I've been speaking my 3 languages almost all of my life, and I still get rusty if I don't speak/hear Russian or Spanish constantly.
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There are American and American affiliate universities in major French cities, especially Paris. Are there any other professions you are interested in which would warrant your enrolling in an American uni abroad? If you were inclined to be an English teacher, you could start that simply as a native speaker and work as an independent contractor. There are also a lot of students wanting tutors to help them in wriitng English papers and the like. There are TEFL certification courses aplenty. I know you are most interested in nursing but your native English speaking ability is your most valuable asset in France ( I lived in Paris for over 2 yrs for my last yr of undergrad and my graduate degree from an American university with a satellite branch in the capital).