This RIL needs a proper milking...
Haven't posted much but this particular customer calls for a special occasion. This guy could be my "big break" (inspired by a girl at my club who makes two grand three days a week off of one guy), but I have got to start working him better. Here's the deal:
He's absolutely infatuated, makes a fair amount of money, and loves to spontanously give generous tips (unfortunately, I can't bring myself to ask for them :-\ ). I've gotten him to start tipping out my dj for me, which saves me about $50, but the problem is, he doesn't always give me generous tips, while he will for other staff members. For example, today he tipped the dj $100 (the only one that benefits me), the chef $20 (the biggest tip he's ever gotten), the doorgirl $100, and another dancer I used to be friends with $20. He does buy a fair amount of dances, and only from me, but aside from paying for those I end up with about $60 extra as a tip - and I know I can be getting a lot more considering I'm the one dancing for him for an hour at a time, I answer his 5 page emails about how much he loves me, I let him monopolize my time, etc. etc. etc. I know something like "i'd love to spend more time with you but I have to make more money" is a good line, but the problem is he doesn't spend a lot of time sitting around before we dance, and then he does end up tipping and paying for those. The bottom line is, I'm being greedy and I want more, and I know with this customer, I can get away with it. He asks me all the time, "is this amount ok?", "have I paid you enough?", and I'm at a loss for words because I don't know what to say without being too blunt. I'm missing out on money because I can't think of a euphamistic way of saying, "well, another $300/400/500 would make me pretend to like you even more," even though I know he's infatuated enough to do it! :'(
I did run across this comment from Chrissy,
I think that straight up asking, after hinting, and then saying things like, "I don't want to overextend your generosity" work very well. It shows that you need help, want him to help, want him to be your shining knight in armor, but dont want to be a mooch or golddigger.
I would refrain from pulling the "my bills are due" move.
I DEFINITELY WOULD interject incredibly subtly how most poeple dont tip after a dance, or talk about a girl who did get a big tip after a dance. He will most likely want to stand out and will start to tip generously.
which i definately need to get the balls to try, but additional advice would be helpful. And appreciated. I'm not trying to be a mooch, after all. ;) I just wish I could be a stripper prodigy, too :'(
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I need help with this too. :( I can be so incompetent sometimes about asking for more money. I have no problem selling dances because of their set pricing, they're like a commodity, buy any tipping on top of that, I suck at getting.
I hope someone has some good advice.
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yeah, that does work well if they say they want to help, but urge him to take you to VIP/ champagne room. you wont make big bucks off of doing dances for this guy unless his thing is to do 10+ dances in a row. if you aren't at least making 200 bucks off of him each visit, then you are wasting your time. so... push him to VIP.
"it's so much quieter in there, and it'll be better for us to spend more intimate, alone-time together."
"i wish more customers were as generous as you. i can't tell you how much it helps when you come and visit me, it makes me so happy too!"
an old fave:
"some people just don't get the art of tipping, i actually had one guy say, 'tip you, but i just paid you for a dance!'. i think people forget stuff like the rule of 20% for good service in here." (however, dont add the 20% bit if he gives you more than that. but it sounds like he doesn't even do that.)
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If he's tipping people who arent doing anything for him(like the doorgirl) more while you are already doing VIPS(you said you danced for him for an hour)...I"d say something. When he says "is that enough"..pout a bit and mention that he tipped the doorgirl more and you thought he liked YOU a lot better then her...You'll get a $200 tip almost guarenteed.
Also...dont sit for free. As soon as you are done dancing...make like another guy is waiting to dance with you but roll your eyes like you really dont want to have to dance for that guy....he'll "save" you.
And make sure you are SO happy when he does these things. He'll keep doing what makes you happy
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Thanks for the suggestions! I forgot to mention our club doesn't have vip/champaigne rooms, we do all our dances in a private room at $30/song. He usually gets about 12 of these and pays me $400, plus a $20-$50 tip if I go on stage. So we spend about an hour dancing with only 15-30 minutes saying hi and bye. My issue isn't that he's a time waster or doesn't buy a lot of dances, I just know that he likes to impress people with big tips - combine that with his severely delusional infatuation and the bitch in me just drools thinking about all the money I could be getting if I worked him a little harder. My forte is the quick hustle and selling long strings of dances, but it would be really nice to finally land myself a walking pot of gold I can count on for a few shifts a week. (I do, literally, curl up with my wads of money at night.)
I'll try reiterating the whole generosity thing more. I know he wants to be my little hero. Hm...is, "I wish my savings account were as big and grand as your heart" too forward? }:D
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I'd say it.
I'd also def. listen to cameron, about the doorgirl bit.
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How can you get a guy to give you a big tip without sounding like alls you want is his cash ?
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tell him your fantasy about a money shower and then play music that matches....
if you can find one of those big baller blogs that talks about showering girls with ones in the hundreds and email it to him and start drooling and talking about this fantasy, then perhaps you can get him to jack up the stage tips to 100-400.
I've seen girls money showered with 500+
if it's all about the appearance for him, then you have to play into what HE likes in order to get his money.
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Why don't you try telling him casually about other dancers at the club whose good customers gave them big tips and how wonderful the story ended up being--they saw each other OTC until he turned out to be crazy, etc. That way you can plant the seed of hope for him and link it to tipping, without actually being so crass as to ask for more $$$. But of course you don't want to do such a thing if it'll be too transparent, either.
Or maybe you do. Hey, all men are butterbrains when there's a dancer in their lap.
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I did this in vegas, it doesnt work in san d so i dont use it at home. during a dance i made it a game to have a guy put tips in my bra straps, and thongsides before i'd take them off in the dance (just throw all the money and clothing in a heap while your dancing and take it in the back to sort out later).