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I am suspended from my club right now because of girls like this. I pretty much said to one girl what everyone else wanted to say but didn't have the balls to. She proceeded to call the owners, put on the waterworks and get me in trouble for nothing. All I did was give my honest opinion (which she asked for) and her little 19 year old feelings got hurt.
This is an "extras" girl who shows/fingers/spreads open her little cookie and asshole then gets upset when guys try to put fingers there. I told her I didn't feel sorry for her and that if she wants to be an extras girl she needs to deal with the people she will attract because of it.
Hey man times are hard but that doesn't mean you have to fuck everyone else over ya know?
I hate it. I don't know if there really is a way to deal. I tried to ignore it for as long as I could before I was given the opportunity to tell how I really feel.
Times ARE hard, definitely, but I feel the same way. These girls just don't know HOW to be sexy. I may not be a mad hustler, but I can be sexy and clean!
THAT is fucked up. I hate it when you get in trouble for somebody else's wrongdoing, it makes me so mad(I know this is really off subject in a way, but I felt similarly when I "got in trouble" for flaming/telling off a cheating now-ex boyfriend of mine. This guy's brothers got angry at me for standing up for myself and mocking him, but didn't give two shits that he had completely disrespected and disregarded me.). How long are you suspended for? Also, did anything happen to the extras girl?
RoseLeigh, I hear you about not being a mad hustler, but being sexy and clean. When I danced, that's how I generally was. (I say "generally" because there were times that I would pretend to be really kinky to customers, but it was all an act...I never actually did any "extras"...but hey it got them in the couchroom, right?) And yes, I definitely noticed in one particular Philly club how I kept losing out on money to other girls because I didn't do extras.
Yikes, I'm in PA and was thinking about dancing a little in Philly and New York if the club I am planning on auditioning at got slow or trashy, but now I don't know. Should there be even more rules and regulations? More legislative action so that stripper does not become synonymous with whore?
Maybe those people should work on the street if they want to go down on guys.
Thing is, in clubs like that the NICE customers have been scared off because they actually don't like what they see going on anymore. They actually wanted and enjoyed the ENTERTAINMENT, but are too repulsed or nervous about being caught up in illegal activity so they stop coming in. Clubowners don't give a shit because they are replaced by the whoremongers so they keep making their money, and they aren't held legally liable for what goes on in their clubs.
Best you can do is find another club where the sleaze factor is lower or where it's at least kept more on the low. Good luck :)
All I have to say is, if I see someone making out in the lapdance room it will take all I have not to slap the shit out of them.
Welcome to my world! It sucks
I feel your pain, I work in a very high contact environment. Some nights are nastier than others as far as what I observe.
I had a night like yours recently where i saw fingers in panties and a condom even on the floor :yikes: !
I left never wanting to work there again but I went back and the next night I just met nice guys that just wanted a sensual dance.
I just put up blinders because I'm able to make good money working with that garbage and not every guy is looking for the nasty.
It can be hard weeding through all the douchebags though so good luck!
Supposedly for a month. This happened 3 weeks ago, so I should be able to go back the week of the 25th. We'll see. The owner that did this to me is famous for telling girls a month and then "extending" their suspension. Since I am not one of his little groupies I am assuming this might happen. If so I am going to have a panic attack. See, his way of "punishing" people is sending them to our sister club to to work where it is dead all the time. I've made 200$ total and I've been there 3 weeks. I am behind on electric, cable, phone bill..... Not to get on a rant here, but my point is all this is happening to me because of a girl who can't keep her panties on.
I guess to a certain extent it's my fault for opening my mouth but everything went south when she asked me her opinion. I answered honestly, she didn't like it. She decided to bring me down....
No, nothing happened to her, she actually from what I heard is getting special treatment (got moved into the "other" dressing room)
The owner didn't offer to hear my side of the story, so he knows not of her extras and underage drinking (he's huge on this, I have seen girls fired right out on the floor for drinking under 21) Little does he know he is fucking over one of his decent dancers for a girl who is breaking one of the worst laws.
Which I can guarantee you, he will find out. Revenge is sweet and I will accomplish it without anyone even knowing I said/did anything. When someone fucks me over this bad, I will get them back and they will never ever expect it or see it coming. It just comes up and bites you in the rear ...
That is unacceptable. The best places to work are where there are rules, and no exceptions for breaking them. Where I worked was so strict, but simply because the twn wanted to shut it down and watched it very closely, so it's not like the owner was concerned for the dancers well being or anything.
Times are changing, and it pretty sad.
whatever happened to good, clean, lapdancing??
bullshit. complete bullshit.Quote:
I know I should be able to handle this
never for a second tell yourself that you SHOULD tolerate that kind of thing because "you're a stripper".
not all of us are ok with high contact. i'm not. you don't HAVE to be ok with it to be a dancer.
i talked myself into doing high contact for awhile. i never did extras, but i did full touching (minus the crotch) and high friction. i told myself i should be "able to handle it" and you know what? it's the only thing in my adult life i ever regret doing (i say that often in these discussions).
that doesn't mean i look down upon girls who do higher contact because they don't mind and/or like it. it just means i don't believe in forcing yourself to be the same, nor do i believe in feeling "wrong" because you can't.
fuck that.
i'm telling you right now (and yes i'm preaching at this point) do NOT push your boundaries on this. if it feels wrong STOP DOING IT. otherwise, you will beat yourself up for it later.
trust me.
I'm sorry to hear you're upset. I'm in a similar situation right now.
I got hired at a new club thats VERY VERY CLEAN and VERY VERY STRICT, but because Dallas is known for high contact, so customers get upset w/ the rules, and it's pretty dead during the day. How sad : (.
So I got hired and started working this other club which is known as thee place custys flock to....
Whoever said on here that 'sex sells, lapdances don't' is dead on I'm afraid.
I've worked clubs known for extras before, but this place easily blows it 'em out of the water. Thats not to say the place is a dump, or that all girls here are outright hookers, etc. Theres clean dancers here too, but it's hard as fuck to make $ if you aren't a hooker.
I'm in shock over the sheer mass of johns this club attracts, and how BLATANT they are w/ their contact.
The following have been daily occurances for me:
* guys trying to finger me, while I'm on stage
* guys trying to kiss me, while I'm on stage
* guys telling me to 'earn this dollar' and trying to extort sexual favors out of me in exchange for it... you guessed it! While I'm on stage
* Guys blatantly groping my tits and ass and trying to kiss me, when I ask them for dances. Just because I approach you doesn't mean you can cop a free feel for free!!!
* Getting propositioned for next to nothing. No, I don't want to fuck you in the champagne room for $50.00
* When I ask for a dance, 2/3 of the guys blatantly ask if they can touch my pussy during the dance. Needless to say they don't buy because I don't.
* The remaining 1/3 that do buy, half of them also try to finger and kiss me during dances. One guy tried to finger my ass today too. Great!
I wouldn't mind 2 way contact if it were limited to boob touching, but this is just outrageous. Please spare me the std's!
So if anyone knows of a club in Dallas where you don't need to be a Barbie, but can still dance for classy guys and make decent $, let me know.
Arrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Yup, same here... >:(
This is what I do too. Not every guy in the club is looking for extras and just want entertainment pure and simple. Those are the men that I make my money off of.
*Hugs* and I hope that you can find a place that fits you better.
Good Luck! ;D
Dollyrocker, perhaps Dallas has a similar situation to Houston, where we hear it's possible to make decent money in nude clubs with less contact. Instead of the topless clubs? I feel for ya girl. I've worked in 3 TX cities and Phx and I know it's gotta be a damn tough adjustment.
RoseLeigh, you're NOT a wuss! I've worked in parts of the country where girls were whipping cocks out like it was nobody's business. I was naive to what was going on at the time, but it does affect your money! FUCK THAT! No DANCER should have to compete with prostitutes! Seriously. These girls should stick to internet whoring. I guess it's more efficient for them to sell their asses in the clubs.
Awwww, thanks girl! Yeah, this club is known for packin' 'em in, but finding a customer who just wants dances is like finding a needle in a haystack. I'm thinking of checking out the nude clubs next week. My last horoscope said "You will find a new way to make money" - might be a sign!
I have to wonder wether contact this extreme is rampant in the smaller TX cities, or wether the fact that it's bible country means the guys are more easily amused. Theres more than a handful of clubs in the small towns out here. Hmmm..... /:O
ooh, you aren't a Libra, are you? I'm pretending that's my horoscope too. :)
Your description of your club was pretty terrifying-I'd be crying. I can't believe people would come up to the stage and try to stick their hands in! What's the appeal of random forced vag touching? And I hate the kissing-that's almost worse. Run for the nudy-ness!
I wonder about this, too. I know there are clubs in Beaumont, Victoria, Killeen, a few other places. A friend of mine a few years ago swore by the money in these places if you were a hot, new face.
I have definitely heard that the clubs in South Texas are typically brothels. (A guy friend of mine had full sex in the VIP for $40 or $60 or something ridiculous like that...didn't even ask for it, she just whipped it out and popped it in.)
Um, is this all of Philly? :-\
I'm going there tomorrow to audition in four clubs.
This is the main reason why I quit. I got so tired of being grabbed, groped, licked, poked and otherwise molested. If I wanted that level of contact, Id just go work in a legal brothel in Nevada.
It is like these guys are starving and we are their only meal for the foreseeable future. They are going to "consume" the dancer as much as possible in the time they have.:-[
Aww :( you are not a wuss! I work in a very low contact club and would probably go through a similar shock if I started at a high contact club.
All I have to say is pretty much what Pretty_Penny said earlier: not everyone is comfortable with higher mileage dances, and don't compromise your personal boundaries to try to compete with these girls, it's just not worth it!
Your mental sanity will thank you later, even if your bank balance does not. :hug:
I dunno about all the smaller towns, but I remember hearing that the Killeen scene was quite nasty when I worked in Austin. Of course that is waaaaayyy old hearsay so take it with a grain of salt, but from the sound of things, TX clubs in general always have been and always will be dirtier than most other places.
1. working in one of those places would bring them dangerously close to actually admitting they're hookers
2. there are SO many hookers in those cities, way more than could fit in the "model studios" (and I think the studios tend to regulate the # of girls, unlike the SCs)
3. hooking in the SC is perceived as "normal" operating procedure by so many girls
4. bigger customer base in the clubs