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Agreed. It's kind of disheartening to me that I'm one of the better earners at my club because I'm not a very good dancer, I have poor stamina so I take a lot of breaks, and I'm still really new at dancing. But when the girls who have experience, awesome moves, and bodies that go all night just chill by the bar or in the dressing room all night, and I'm the only one in the lapdance area every time I pull someone back there, it's like :O? Whazzafuck?
Sometimes I'm stupid and hang out too. Sometimes I'm smart and realize that the less they hustle, the more money is still sitting there waiting for me to come and pick it up! And my n00b self looks better by comparison.
Ugh. The last club I worked at was like this. Girls would literally sit in the dressing room all night, and come down ONLY if someone requested them. What the fuck is the point of stripping if you're only going to make $40?
The manager also imposed this idiotic rule that "If there are less than 5 guys in the club, only the dancer on stage is allowed to be downstairs. Nobody else can leave the DR"
i hustle when i have to. if i don't have to i don't. but i def don't leave custies to sit alone.
If I was the type of dancer who makes a killing off of stage tips, like a couple that I know- I wouldn't bother myself with hustling honestly.
Hey, more money for you! :)
Wish I didn't have to hustle.... but I also wish I was a trust fund baby. In a perfect world...
As of late, my hustle results have been lacking. Last week I pretty much gave up. Maybe your co-workers are burnt out?
^^Yeah, seriously. I have no idea. I mean, if one guy comes to the club when it opens at 7, and only a couple guys come in the first few hours, why do they have to be punished because its not busy? And then they'd have to wait around the entire rotation to see all the girls, instead of just being able to see us walking around. The girls told me it "wasn't fair" to the dancer on stage, because it takes away from stage tips. I still think its stupid....doesn't encourage spending and wouldn't one rather hustle LDs than stage tips?!
I L O V E those type of girls just leaves more money for me. he he he :D
I admit it I'm not a hustler. Yes I loose money because of it but I could not work if I hustled. Don't get me wrong I occasionally approach customers but I never do the hard sell. I am just a bit too afraid of rejection and I also don't ever really know what to say or talk about.
I rely on the busy weekend nights because there are so many guys in the club that they just grab you for dances.
I noticed last week was pretty awful for a lot of girls from all over - perhaps due to the holiday. So maybe by the night before a bank holiday (when everyone thought it would be good money) and the "end" of that week, girls were pretty worn down and cranky. It's a snowball effect. When dancers don't do well moneywise, customers won't be having fun, so they won't spend, etc
Elusive, if you were busy entertaining your regular, how on earth were you able to observe that much detail about what ALL the girls in the club were doing. I know when I'm entertaining a customer, my attention is focused on him, not what everyone else is doing or saying.
The point is not lost though. I've always thought the best clubs to work in were those where all or most the girls are out working the crowd, getting guys to spend. The energy flows through the whole club and makes all our jobs easier.
::) ::) i hustle my arse off everyday...that is the only way....
Sometimes this can be good, because the worse they make themselves look, the better YOU look, hahahaha. But uhhh... too much apathy can give the place a bad vibe and make customers leave too.
And I agree with you on the stage thing. I know my stage shows suuuuuuck, but I always make sure to smile and interact, and thats what gets me tipped. A little eye contact goes a long way!
A few weeks ago, I was out on the floor, trying to hustle what little guys were in the club. I managed to score a CR, tried to hustle a few more guys with no success and then it was time for me to leave. It was kind of a shitty night overall, but not horribly awful. As I was leaving, I noticed that the same girls were still sitting in the DR at the end of the night as they had been alllllll night long. I randomly asked one if she just came to work in order to sit there and not work. Her reply was "Only when there's no money" or something to that effect (I guess it sorta pissed her off but I didn't care much). It was so amazing to me that some girls (like myself) were getting dances and CRs and these chicks were basically just handing it to us by sitting around. We don't get a lot of business at my club and you can't make a dime without hustling. If you do it's basically "luck money".
But when customers come in and expect to be entertained and GUESS WHAT you're in the DR bitching and coating yourself in hairspray for the 20th time that night, the GOOD customers are going to leave and eventually STOP coming in. So in the long run this hurts us all.
Elusive I was just curious (and being slightly smartass as usual) but thanks for the detailed explanation ;D
I hate being the only hustler in a club full of lazy drunks. When everyone else is sitting around drinking and chatting with the customers for free, then they think I'm a money-hungry bitch when I push for a lap dance or try to get paid for my time. Everyone else is chilling out, they figure, so why won't I just hang out with them too?
It's good if a few girls are hustling and the rest are sitting in the dressing room. But when NO ONE hustles, then it quickly winds up where no one can make money, even when you try.
Ha! Welcome to my club. Only here, these are the ones that make the money! :banghead:
Talk about frustrating. I cant tell you how many times "zombie" girl has gone onstage after me and got tipped by every dude in the place, while I left empty handed. BTW yes I am that girl that no matter what, even if I am in a shitty mood or tired, always puts 100% into my stages....and my hustle. I have come up with so much creative shit, spent HOURS reading in hustle hut, and even write shit down to take to work with me....and of course...how many times has my best sales pitch that I put time and thought into been turned down for "wanna dance" girl with an attitude.
Not sure if it's cause I live in a town full of easily intimidated, dickless, ball-less, self worth-less rednecks or what.....It's like they can't handle someone who carries themselves with confidence and is good at their job. They gotta go for girls who are as miserable as they are.
There are a few hustlers where I work...but there are a ton of girls who don't hustle at all. I know one girl who will sit at this one table by the stage all night, and only get up to go on stage or if a guy comes over to her. I mean shes cute but shes not so amazingly gorgeous that all the men just flock to her in her little table in the corner. I'm also surprised at how often guys will say "We've been here for 2 hours and youre the 1st girl to even come say hi to us"
Oh well more money for me.
A new level has been achieved in managerial idiocy. Who knows where the final frontier in this boundless realm will be encountered?
Hell, at one club I worked in, the manager would crank the AC if he saw too many dancers in the DR, lol--but it worked. They'd come running out, shivering and asking me why it was so fucking cold. I would have lost my job if I'd let on, so I didn't.
I would suspect the problem is burnout, for the most part. I have mixed feelings about it, having watched (more times than I could possibly recall) a dancer get the guys all worked up with her stage set and then immediately run back into the dressing room for an hour. I've seen the bored stage routine, the sittting at the bar getting drunk instead of at least working the crowd a bit, seen half the dancers moping in the dressing room with bunches of new guys walking in the door for the last hour.
OTOH, it is a really brutal business at times, one which requires superlative sales skills, especially in some clubs, especially if a successful sale means fending off disgusting guys demanding BJs almost every time. It is like being an actress nonstop for 8 hours for the real hustlers, and some of the roles are extremely demanding, to say the least.
I used to do a lot of cold calling when I had a graphics and illustration business. If I was on it and pumped up, I could kick ass. If my heart wasn't in it, I sucked. As time went on, it became more difficult to get into the right mood.
I have always found that if you can get the dancers to have fun and not worry about making money so much, they invariably make a lot more, but it's sometimes really hard to get into the mood for them, and I don't blame them.
PLEASE...help me understand this. Even if we did make a killing every single time we went on stage, why would you still not want to hustle? If there is the opportunity to make alot more money, why would you not want to take it? To me that is like having a choice between selling 3 LDs or a VIP session...the answer seems clear.
;) I've been to clubs where the majority of the stage tippers throwing hundreds at a time are 98% of the time young drug dealer types. If I got a bucket full of money from them I would smile and keep walking past...onto the next stage, so I wouldn't have to deal with the buffoonery coming out of their mouths. (Not all of them are like that but some days I have less patience than others).
I understand what you are saying, you are absolutely right about making money doing both- I made that statement because I would rather make all my $$ stage dancing than hustling dances if I had to pick one over the other.
Also there are many days that the custy's would rather 'make it rain' over getting dances just so provoke envy from others.;)