Don't ask for VIP to often?!
I'll admit, this is my rock in a hardplace. I enjoy selling VIP/CR (hey who doesn't) BUT I find it difficult to know how often to use this technique.
For example:
Me: Ok, so would you like a lapdance here or a VIP (or something similar)
Him: Well what's the VIP like?
Me: Blah, blah, stripper bullshit...:P
Him: I dunno, maybe later
Ok, so how long after that regular lapdance do you ask again for the VIP? I want to get as many VIP's as I can per night, but at the same time, don't wanna keep asking for such an expensive dance. I don't feel like repeatedly asking for a $25 dance is as bad as a $300 dance ya know..
Any advice? How many times is to many times to ask the same guy for a VIP?
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hmm...Well, I think you need to figure out why he is saying no, so you can ease his mind over whatever objection he has.
When he says maybe later and you continute to dance for him on the floor, after awhile ask him again if he is now ready for VIP. If he says no again, say " May I ask why you do not want to go to VIP? Is it that you do not want more intimacy? Is it that you do not want to be in a more private area? Is it the expense?"
If he says no, it's none of those thigns then say Oh, good, so then lets go now.
If he says yes, it's the price, or yes, it's just that I dont care for the privacy, being out here on the floor is fine.
Then you know exactly what his objection is so you can focus on that and break through it to sell him.
Some links about handeling objections:
Of course, some objections just can't be overcome. If he doesn't have the money, he really just doesn't have the money. Nothign yuo can do about that. But now you know that and can move on to a more qualified buyer, so yuo haven't wasted time tyring to sell to someoen who isn't able to buy.
So yeah..I'd ask the same guy for a VIP once. If he says no, find out why, try to overcome it, and if you cant, move on. If he says maybe later, find out right then why he isn't ready now.
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Wow, great advice. What I was gonna say and more (95% more!)
If you ask and he says maybe later I would then ask him for a regular dance or two and make it good (not extras obviously, but really try your best) and then ask again.
I don't think it would ever hurt you to ask again. The worst he can say is no.
If money is his excuse at least he'll see that you give great dances and will most likely buy some more dances out on the floor.
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If a guy is visiting from out of town for a few short days or new to the club...I always, always mention the champagne room. If a travelling businessman seems to be very interested in you, he is more willing to want to take it to a more private setting away from the blaring music and the other dancers/customers and relax. It can be lonely on the road!
I would make that an automatic, if I were you....at the very least mentioning it as an option along with the regular dance.
If it is a guy's first time at your club, he has no idea whether it is the norm or not to do a VIP/champagne room so it is up to you to approach the sale and the customer as if it were an option which is routinely practiced in your club.
Re: Don't ask for VIP to often?!
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Originally Posted by
london
If a guy is visiting from out of town for a few short days or new to the club...I always, always mention the champagne room. If a travelling businessman seems to be very interested in you, he is more willing to want to take it to a more private setting away from the blaring music and the other dancers/customers and relax. It can be lonely on the road!
I would make that an automatic, if I were you....at the very least mentioning it as an option along with the regular dance.
If it is a guy's first time at your club, he has no idea whether it is the norm or not to do a VIP/champagne room so it is up to you to approach the sale and the customer as if it were an option which is routinely practiced in your club.
When do you ask this though? after a few dances? after talking to him for how many minutes?
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i bring it up after every dance bu tin different terms so i don't sound redundant..."so are we done with the foreplay", "do you want to play for real now..."along those lines...it works well for me
Re: Don't ask for VIP to often?!
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Originally Posted by
london
If a guy is visiting from out of town for a few short days or new to the club...I always, always mention the champagne room. If a travelling businessman seems to be very interested in you, he is more willing to want to take it to a more private setting away from the blaring music and the other dancers/customers and relax. It can be lonely on the road!
I would make that an automatic, if I were you....at the very least mentioning it as an option along with the regular dance.
If it is a guy's first time at your club, he has no idea whether it is the norm or not to do a VIP/champagne room so it is up to you to approach the sale and the customer as if it were an option which is routinely practiced in your club.
Yeah...Here's my basic hustle:
Hi, I'm Kaylinn, you look ready for some company now.
Have you been here before?
It's an awesome club, isn't it?
Your having fun tonight, arent you?
Have you had many dances yet?
You have? that's aweesome. that means you all warmed up for me.
or-
You havent? that's awesome. that means I can break you in the right way!
Since you've been here before, you know how everything works, so would you like to have your lapdance here, or in the private room?
or-
Since you've never been here before, let me explain how things work. We offer dances out here on the main floor for $20, or private dances in the VIP room, Which would you prefer?
I have this hustle down to about 2 minutes. the first minute of random getting to know yu crap, leading up to the close, then the second minute on the close. The third minute is spent handling any objections, if his answer was no or maybe later. If after the third minute he isn't sold, I tell him I'll come back later to check on him, and move on. So I spend 1 song on the sale..unless he seems interested and qualified to buy and I'm trying to close an hour or longer room. Then it's definatly worth spending a few extra minutes on.
If he just buys a lapdance, after the first one is over i ask again, would you like another dance here, or are your ready for the private room now?
I bring up the vip room and push it to every single person I talk to. If they are a little interested in the vip but are still hesitant, I ask if they would like a tour. As I lead them through the VIP room I say things like, " see? we would sit right over there in that corner, after the waitress brings our drinks, I wouild take off my top and start dancing for you. It's a lot more intimate back here, isn't it? Doesn't it look like so much fun? He sees the other guys back there enjoying themselves, espicially if it's a little crowded, he thinks, well, it must be worth it, everyone else is doing it.
Re: Don't ask for VIP to often?!
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Originally Posted by
Kaylinn
Yeah...Here's my basic hustle:
Hi, I'm Kaylinn, you look ready for some company now.
Have you been here before?
It's an awesome club, isn't it?
Your having fun tonight, arent you?
Have you had many dances yet?
You have? that's aweesome. that means you all warmed up for me.
or-
You havent? that's awesome. that means I can break you in the right way!
Since you've been here before, you know how everything works, so would you like to have your lapdance here, or in the private room?
or-
Since you've never been here before, let me explain how things work. We offer dances out here on the main floor for $20, or private dances in the VIP room, Which would you prefer?
I have this hustle down to about 2 minutes. the first minute of random getting to know yu crap, leading up to the close, then the second minute on the close. The third minute is spent handling any objections, if his answer was no or maybe later. If after the third minute he isn't sold, I tell him I'll come back later to check on him, and move on. So I spend 1 song on the sale..unless he seems interested and qualified to buy and I'm trying to close an hour or longer room. Then it's definatly worth spending a few extra minutes on.
If he just buys a lapdance, after the first one is over i ask again, would you like another dance here, or are your ready for the private room now?
I bring up the vip room and push it to every single person I talk to. If they are a little interested in the vip but are still hesitant, I ask if they would like a tour. As I lead them through the VIP room I say things like, " see? we would sit right over there in that corner, after the waitress brings our drinks, I wouild take off my top and start dancing for you. It's a lot more intimate back here, isn't it? Doesn't it look like so much fun? He sees the other guys back there enjoying themselves, espicially if it's a little crowded, he thinks, well, it must be worth it, everyone else is doing it.
Would you reccomend this type of hustle at a low pressure club? I work at a club where there are NO "wanna dance" girls and girls talk to customers sometimes for hours before selling anything, and often they dont sell at all. I do hear some girls get tipped for talking but I havent seen it happen yet. I
Re: Don't ask for VIP to often?!
Yeah...Here's my basic hustle:
Hi, I'm Kaylinn, you look ready for some company now.
Have you been here before?
It's an awesome club, isn't it?
Your having fun tonight, arent you?
Have you had many dances yet?
You have? that's aweesome. that means you all warmed up for me.
or-
You havent? that's awesome. that means I can break you in the right way!
Since you've been here before, you know how everything works, so would you like to have your lapdance here, or in the private room?
or-
Since you've never been here before, let me explain how things work. We offer dances out here on the main floor for $20, or private dances in the VIP room, Which would you prefer?
I have this hustle down to about 2 minutes. the first minute of random getting to know yu crap, leading up to the close, then the second minute on the close. The third minute is spent handling any objections, if his answer was no or maybe later. If after the third minute he isn't sold, I tell him I'll come back later to check on him, and move on. So I spend 1 song on the sale..unless he seems interested and qualified to buy and I'm trying to close an hour or longer room. Then it's definatly worth spending a few extra minutes on.
If he just buys a lapdance, after the first one is over i ask again, would you like another dance here, or are your ready for the private room now?
I bring up the vip room and push it to every single person I talk to. If they are a little interested in the vip but are still hesitant, I ask if they would like a tour. As I lead them through the VIP room I say things like, " see? we would sit right over there in that corner, after the waitress brings our drinks, I wouild take off my top and start dancing for you. It's a lot more intimate back here, isn't it? Doesn't it look like so much fun? He sees the other guys back there enjoying themselves, espicially if it's a little crowded, he thinks, well, it must be worth it, everyone else is doing it.
I love this. straight to the point. hardly gives them the chance to say no. im definatly trying this one.
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Ask as many times as is necessary. I tend to ask while we're drinking at the table. Then I ask again either after two dances or after I see their eyes roll up into their head a few times. Then I keep suggesting every song thereafter saying how much I want to get them alone.
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Kaylinn those are great lines...can't wait to try them out!