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the morning after sc visit
do u regret what you spent?
when customers spend large amounts of money on me i wonder if they regret it the next day and then they don't have much money until next pay day.
i know i prob shouldn't think about/care about this but i always kinda feel guilty.
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jaizaine
do u regret what you spent?
when customers spend large amounts of money on me i wonder if they regret it the next day and then they don't have much money until next pay day.
i know i prob shouldn't think about/care about this but i always kinda feel guilty.
I haven't regretted it yet...knock on wood. I take as much cash as I've already decided I'm willing to spend with me to the club. When it's gone, I'm gone. I'm probably not the type of customer you are contemplating though jaizaine, as I'm usually a hundred dollar visit guy. Lunch and drinks for the girl and I, and the rest for some dances. A hundred dollar lunch is hard to get all regrety over...especially when it includes a sexy naked girl.
If I was dropping a thousand a visit every time, on my regular-guy income, I KNOW I'd be having regrets soon enough.
That's sweet that you have that concern about your customers. :)
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hockeybobby
That's sweet that you have that concern about your customers. :)
Hehe. Only the nice ones tho.
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jaizaine
Hehe. Only the nice ones tho.
haha...it's only a coincidence that nice = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ;D
just kidding...I know you are kind-hearted.
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jaizaine
when customers spend large amounts of money on me i wonder if they regret it the next day and then they don't have much money until next pay day.
Well if they were that short on cash they had no business being in a SC in the first place. He was asking for it! Never feel guilty.
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I would only regret it if I didn't enjoy myself, but if that were the case, I wouldn't be spending any money anyway. If you're not spending the milk money, there shouldn't be a problem.
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I haven't regretted it yet. I bring what I want to spend and leave when the wallet is empty. I've never had a dancer get into my plastic though. I might regret that in the morning. I'm all for fun, I just don't want to pay interest on my fun.
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I've been drunk a few times and way over spent what I planned to. Regretted that the next morning.
Pretty much why I don't go to SCs if I've been drinking. Drunk = being bad at maths.
Oh, I'll have plenty left after this.
Oh, where's my money?
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jaizaine
do u regret what you spent?
when customers spend large amounts of money on me i wonder if they regret it the next day and then they don't have much money until next pay day.
i know i prob shouldn't think about/care about this but i always kinda feel guilty.
Nope never. i only take what i can afford to spend. might not spend everything i have with me, but if i do no biggie.
its the customers responsibility not yours. just like a car dealer his job is to get all my money he can if i give it to him its all on me.
its nice of you to "think/care" about it. :)
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The only thing that you should have any bad feelings about would be if you intentionally toyed with a guy's emotions over an extended period of time to get money. Some guy who blows through a ton of money in one night and then disappears was probably going to spend that money irrespective of you. You are both on the same page. If, however, you are misleading him to keep him coming back and spending, maybe there is something there to feel guilty about. I think it speaks well of you though, that you are concerned about it. Too many people don't care enough about the impact of their actions, and I'm not talking strictly about SC's either.
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Never regretted it yet jaizaine . I am not a big spender , usually spend about $250 if my favorite girl is dancing - about $100 if she isn't. I have never came close to losing financial control by going over to the atm. I appreciate your concerns and wished there were more like you !
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Never a regret.
But, I plan well and don't to SCs all the frickin time. I know guys that make a serious addiction out of it. Also, I'm always sober (never got why you'd want to be drunk when looking at nekkid womens).
As to whether you should feel bad...
Maybe dancing is a bit like sustainable logging. You gotta make sure you don't clear cut the forest too aggressively. Then again, those trees are begging to be cut down.
The closest I ever came to regret was the club's fault. The place got some cross-ventilation going through the bathrooms and there was, um, a smell. Not a stench. Just a subtle smell of urine.
But, I have to agree with those who say that if you regret the cash, what were you doing there in the first place?
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Like others on this thread, I never take money into the club I can't afford to spend. I set a budget for myself and stick to it. And I never use plastic. That's not to say I've never made a spending decision inside a club that I later came to regret. Of course, there are dancers every now and then who turn out not to have been worth the investment. But I've never had "morning after" regrets about spending too much during a club visit, though I'm sure there is many a club denizen who fails to exercise much forethought or discipline and ends up finding himself unable to come up with rent money.
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I never feel guilty. Because I never swindle them out of their money. I'm sure there have been a few that regretted spending money on me..but that is because they assumed (without asking so I could set them straight) that spending a bit of money automatically meant I would do things other then dance. I dont feel guilty about them. I didnt TELL them or promise them anything..I dont do that. It was entirely their fault for assuming I was a prostitute.
For every other guy...I do my best to make sure their money is well spent on me. I'm fun,pretty, and I try to put forth the effort to make their time with me well spent. If they liked me enough that they spent more then they wanted to..well..thats not my fault really.
I've done that myself...spent more then I wanted to or intended to somewhere because I was having so much fun.I might feel sorry the next day that I dont have that money anymore..but if I had fun..I dont regret it.
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I suspect we have a biased sample of male responses - they're guys who've posted on here, sometimes for a while. Accordingly, they should have few views about a dancers motivations (and some degree of skepticism about SS).
The "morning after" customers are probably the ones that see spending money on a dancer as the route to getting an OTC date. And there has to be some point where the realisation dawns that "I've spent $4,000 and I'm never going to get a date".
Human nature being what it is, said customers will probably blame the dancer for leading them on, rather than realising that if the dancer genuinely liked them she would have readily accepted an offer of an OTC date pretty soon after they first met.
Thus, in his eyes, it'll be all the dancers fault, and not his - and he'll have morning after syndrome.
Phil.
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LOL, I talked to one of my custies a couple of weeks after he spent really, really big on me and another girl. He told me that when he checked his CC statement online the next morning, he didn't know weather to laugh or cry. Funny thing is that the day after that conversation he came back to the club for a few more hours of fun!!
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i have only ever regretted one thing: the next-morning hangover.
although now my roommate/bestfriend makes sure that i budget both money and alcohol when i go to her club (these days, only when she needs a ride there and back and i dont feel like putting up with her husband) so there is not really even a chance to regret anything.
also, when i saw the name of the thread i thought the thread was going to be about going to stripclubs the morning after sex or something. like "what a great night! lets hit up the stripclub after brunch..." or something like that. cause i have done that before. had a great night, only to pass out in my car without leaving the parking lot, only to wake up the next day just after the club reopened and walk right back inside. not my proudest moment! but definitely one of my most entertaining...
dancerbuddy just getting in for work: you're back early...?
me: fell asleep in the parking lot.
dancerbuddy: well good morning, sunshine. wanna dance? promise its better than coffee!
yeah. good times.
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I wonder this too, and feel bad sometimes. I have certain customers that I know aren't making huge money, yet continue to come in on a regular basis and drop 800-3000 in one visit.
I have one regular in particular that I worry about. He's a younger guy and and I won't say what he does, but I know theres no way he's making over 50K a year. Anyway, he'll come in and talk for a little bit and if he makes no move to spend, I tell him I love to see him but I honestly have to make money, this is my job (this is 100% honesty, not a bullshit line to get him to spend) When I come back later he wants to do a room. Then he'll extend, extend, extend. I can always see the horribly torn look on his face when he wants to keep going. One time the VIP host came back and told him his CC was maxed out, and he looked like he wanted to cry, and started frantically digging in his wallet to see if he had a different one.
For this guy I think he has an addiction. He says being with me is like a drug. I feel guilty, but if he's handing it to me I'm going to take it. I still feel bad tho.
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Phil-W
The "morning after" customers are probably the ones that see spending money on a dancer as the route to getting an OTC date. And there has to be some point where the realisation dawns that "I've spent $4,000 and I'm never going to get a date".
Thus, in his eyes, it'll be all the dancers fault, and not his - and he'll have morning after syndrome.
Hahaha. Sucks when you're stupid. I never feel bad for those guys.
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The only thing that you should have any bad feelings about would be if you intentionally toyed with a guy's emotions over an extended period of time to get money.
I'd disagree with this.
If you don't have realistic expectations within the unrealistic realm of the SC, you really shouldn't go. It's that simple. And I'm not some hardcore elitist about this--in the last 20 years I've been a complete PL a handful of times where I was totally played by a dancer. It happens--it's a recreational hazard. But by and large, I know what the score is as I walk in the door.
You have to know, as a customer, that going into the SC requires an appreciation and respect for the unique social/business environment contained within its walls.
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I see that you're worried, but you realize it is an expression, right? Like you are not really addictive. And... strip clubs are expensive. If he comes in once a week and maxes out his cards... he's not going to last that many weekends. Like really, if he were doing that, he would have ceased being a regular.
Other than that - I say he is more capable of managing his finances than you are. If you have an actual knowledge of a problem that is one thing - like if he is retarded, or an alcoholic, etc. Outside of that... I think one is overestimating one's influence and frankly overstepping boundaries if you try to exercise restraint on someone else's wallet.
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Desiree
I wonder this too, and feel bad sometimes. I have certain customers that I know aren't making huge money, yet continue to come in on a regular basis and drop 800-3000 in one visit.
I have one regular in particular that I worry about. He's a younger guy and and I won't say what he does, but I know theres no way he's making over 50K a year. Anyway, he'll come in and talk for a little bit and if he makes no move to spend, I tell him I love to see him but I honestly have to make money, this is my job (this is 100% honesty, not a bullshit line to get him to spend) When I come back later he wants to do a room. Then he'll extend, extend, extend. I can always see the horribly torn look on his face when he wants to keep going. One time the VIP host came back and told him his CC was maxed out, and he looked like he wanted to cry, and started frantically digging in his wallet to see if he had a different one.
For this guy I think he has an addiction. He says being with me is like a drug. I feel guilty, but if he's handing it to me I'm going to take it. I still feel bad tho.
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If I were poor enough that one night at a SC would be causing me financial hardship, I'd go find a cheaper hobby. Thankfully most of my other hobbies are cheap.
I've only regretted spending money when it ended up paying for a lousy time.
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If I have a good time(doesnt mean extras), then I really don't care how much i spent the next morning. I , like others have mentioned as well, go in with all the cash I know I'm spending and don't touch the plastic (a big reason could be that the ATM withdrawal cost of $10+ is fuking nuts).
Plus, I go only 1-2 times a month so I plan on having good time which means a lot of drinks and buying drinks for friends so I know prior to the visit, I'm going to be a little low the next morning.
But very nice of you to think that the next day, I've always wondered what some of the dancers thought of that kind of situation.
If all dancers were like you, that would be a positive.
Plus, I only do champagne rooms after I've talked to them for a little/got dances on the previous times. I don't try to waste anyones time but you got to know some stuff/whether it is a smart choice to go do the champagne room beforehand. Then I'm more than happy to spend the money...
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Casual Observer
I'd disagree with this.
If you don't have realistic expectations within the unrealistic realm of the SC, you really shouldn't go. It's that simple. And I'm not some hardcore elitist about this--in the last 20 years I've been a complete PL a handful of times where I was totally played by a dancer. It happens--it's a recreational hazard. But by and large, I know what the score is as I walk in the door.
You have to know, as a customer, that going into the SC requires an appreciation and respect for the unique social/business environment contained within its walls.
Veterans like you and I know this but there are number of customers who don't or won't until they learn it the hard way. When I first started visiting the clubs 5 or 6 years ago, I spent more than I should have on a couple of girls before I smartened up and saw the light. The money amounts weren't too significant but I didn't like feeling like I was a mark. I snapped out of it in a matter of weeks, dropping a few thousand on each girl. Not that big a deal.
I've seen other guys drop $50-$100K on a single girl over a period of a year or two. To me, that's a clear example of being taken advantage of. These guys were led to believe things were heading in a direction which everyone else knew they weren't. In that case, I think there might be something there for the dancer to feel guilty about.
Here's an analogy: a scratch golfer will never lose to a double digit handicapper in a straight-up match. But as long as he only plays as well as he needs to to win, he can keep the weaker golfer coming back because he thinks he has a chance when he doesn't. How do I know this? I've done it a time ot two and I felt a little guilty for doing so.
Guys like you and I know what is and isn't realistic withing the walls of a SC. Shame on us if we get taken. Those that don't know what's realistic are at risk to be taken.
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This makes me want to start a new thread. An "It's never the same as the first time thread". We were all so happy when we had our first dance, totally innocent and happy go lucky.