if the guy you are dancing for,you find attractive or good looking? or does it matter as long as they pay???
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if the guy you are dancing for,you find attractive or good looking? or does it matter as long as they pay???
this question has been asked a billion times before. the search feature is a nice function.
i will go ahead and say this though.
how handsy the guy is, is the #1 factor that determines how "good" the dance i give is. if he's trying to grab me i'm going to be on the defense and i'm going to give him a really shitty dance. i don't care what the fuck he look likes.
how much money he's spending is another factor, but it's not as important as the previously mentioned factor #1.
cleanliness is another factor. i'll take a fat balding guy with good hygiene over a "hot" guy with bad breath ANY DAY.
now.. if two -clean- guys.. one i'm attracted to and one i am not.. are spending the SAME money and are both respectful and polite....
i will give them both great dances. i might "enjoy" the dance more if he's hot, but i'm giving them both the same dance. why? because #1 i'm not going past my personal limits regardless... and #2 both of them have the potential to come back, buy more dances, etc. and since respectfull, generous, customers are becoming a rare breed.. i intend to try and keep as many of them coming back as i can.
oh and, as i've said before:
i see a guy i personally find attractive in the "i would totally fuck that guy" way....... MAYBE twice a year on average at work.
"my type" doesn't frequent strip clubs.
Penny, *great* response. I agree with everything you posted - all the way to rarely being attracted to a guy who comes in in a "I would totally fuck that guy" way.
Thanks for posting my thoughts.... lol
thanks
heh. thanx.
it's not that "typical-hot-guys" don't ever come in. i mean, the muscle-clad macho jock-types do on occasion. plenty of girls are into that look/type of guy and that's totally fine. nothing wrong with it. i'm just, not.
it's great though, when i can tell a guy like that THINKS he's the shit and i'm just thinking "dude, i'm about as attracted to you as i am the old guy at the end of the bar"
^^
nope. your average customer is not right for my club either. i do 95% of my dances for men aged between 18-30 and many of them are good looking.
As Penny said the number 1 factor that determines whether u get a good dance is if I feel SAFE dancing for you. This means that u keep your hands to your sides and your tongue in your mouth. Then u will get the hottest dance ever!!
You could weigh 400lbs and I dont give a shit Ill still give u a hot dance.
I prob do give slightly hotter dances to rough, mean looking men with shaved heads (Im being honest here).
I don't care if you are good looking, Im not short of men who want to fuck me and Im generally not interested. If you pay more that totally turns me on. Just keep throwing the cash my way.
I'm also curious about the answers to this, but I have no idea how to properly phrase a search for it. Believe me, I've tried. If anyone else is a better searcher than I, please feel free to post a link to a previous thread on the topic. Much obliged.
Penny's response was pretty dead-on.
i dance better for guys who are gentleman and not assholes. also if they tip well. i generally dont dance for younger guys ro guys i find attractive. luckily the type of guys i think are hot dont come to the club much.
Dancers give better dances to guys that make them feel good; for dancers, however, being good looking (whatever your standards or ideas of good looks are) is kind of down at the bottom of what makes us feel good. Things like money, security (the knowledge that because we shimmy up as close as we are allowed you are not going to do more than is allowed), security (like we don't feel we have to do more to keep you), hygiene, not being a loser, not disrespecting us etc. Good looks is like way, way, down at the bottom in terms of what makes us happy and secure in a dance.
I give my best dances to girls I find sexy (cuz I'm gay and that's just hott 4 me), my regulars who I'm comfrontible with, treat me right, and have fun with..., young skinny or well built prettyboys/firefighters/tattoo artist, and others I generally like or find attractive on some level --why becuz I can play the fanasty better when I can imagine a level of chemistry there to begin with. Now not many of those come in, but sue me if I have my favorites.
I don't give bad lapdances out(as I always try to give that sexy dance that will make them want to come back), but certin customers are not going 2 get that treatment just simply if--- they just gross me out which means if they stink, are rude, or they have soo much body mass they can't find thier ... and I'm bouncing on thier knee or belly just becuz it's just not the same when I'm trying not to think about how much more I should be charging to deal with them. Sometimes 25 is not enough to movative my imagination 2 have to work that hard to sell a fanasty to a customer like that.
In addition to what Penny said, the song playing used to have to do with how great my dance was.
QFT. In addition, I personally enjoy the dance more if I like the person I'm giving it to. I might like them for any number of reasons, including but definitely not limited to finding them attractive. (BTW, my idea of attractive has very little to do with what most guys seem to assume women find attractive, i.e. muscle-bound jocks with perfect hair.)
As to whether a guy I enjoy dancing for is going to get a "better" dance, that kinda depends on what you mean by "better." I'm not going to break any rules or cross my boundaries, and the kind of guys I enjoy dancing for wouldn't expect it.
However, the dance might be "better" in that I might be more relaxed and more genuinely enjoying myself. I might give somewhat more contact, because I'm not scared that you're going to cross the line and grab me somewhere I don't want to be grabbed. I might make more eye contact because you don't creep me out. It's subtle.
i forgot about that. i wouldn't say i give "better" dances when i like the song, but it helps me get into it, for sure. a really terrible song (like, most of the cheesy shit they play for 2-4-1s) can be kind of distracting. you know, stuff like "wake up little suzy".
yeah, in addition to what i already said, a guy i can laugh with is a plus as far as making me feel comfortable/secure goes. not too many guys share my sense of humor, and my humor is a huge part of my personality. therefor, when i can REALLY be that part of myself around a customer and we can laugh at each other (real laughter, not the forced kind) it makes me feel more confident and at ease. i don't "play a different role" when i'm at work, but i definitely tweak my personality a bit from customer to customer. i find that when i have to tweak it very little or not at all, is when i'm the happiest and generally do the best. so, matching the humor is tops. :)
i don't have a super specific "type". i mean, like most people i have several "types" and am sometimes attracted to people who don't fall into any of them for whatever reason.
but in general i'm into artsy guys, nerdy/gamer guys, musicians. physically i'm attracted to more alternative looks and guys that are a bit femme. by "alternative" i don't just mean tats and piercings (although i do like them). but like, a bunch of tattoos isn't going to make me attracted to the aforementioned big-jock-types. there are plenty of non tatted non pierced guys i find attractive as well. it's more of a "whole package" kind of thing. face wise my IDEAL (to use two celebs as refs) would be like jonathan rhys meyers or cillian murphy. for some reason i have a huge inclination toward exaggerated facial features (big lips, big eyes) and strong cheekbones.
but i'm attracted to guys for all sorts of reasons. like i would totally do conan o'brien or michael c hall. jaoquin phoenix too for that matter, even though none of them fall into the -physical- type i usually like.
i guess i just like "different". even though being unique/different is kind of impossible. this will sound really pretentious, and i don't mean it that way, but we tend to see A LOT of the "same kind" of guys every shift.
This is the part a lot of guys forget. It depends on your location, but seriously I see 673639537 30-40 yr old guys in crappy Phillies/Eagles sweatclothes and a dumb ballcap a day.
I find a custie far more "attractive" if he can hold up a convo with more than 'so what's your man think of this?" etc, or is just quiet and respectful. It won't necessarily be a better dance , as in illegal or anything but I'll be more relaxed if I can talk travel or food or if he just relaxes as well and stops trying to maul me. Those are the best-he relaxes back into the chair, eyes slightly closed, enjoys the dance.
Oh... yes.... I love those guys. They don't try to make our "relationship" more than it is, don't try to impress us, they just enjoy the moment, foloow the rules, and let us do our thing.
If every guy was like that in the clubs, we would have 80% fewer complaints on this board... lol ::)
oh i forgot to add if you are a cowboy and starch and press your jeans or you wear rough pants, dont think for a second im putting my ass anywhere near you.
i learned that from experiance! lordy it hurt!
I actually get somewhat intimidated and kind of fidgety dancing for guys that I think are really hot. So for me, no.
Honestly, most of the dances at my club seem the same. It more depends on whether the manager is hovering over the table dance area or not.
naw i give the same amazing lapdance each and everytime no matter how they look...maybe thats because I have a husband and i dont think anyone could ever compare to him. awwww lol
Gotcha. Thanks for answering. I'd just be concerned if by different you were talking about emo guys who wear their sisters' jeans. If I never see one of them in a SC (I haven't yet), I'll die a happy man.
You're exactly right about having a normal conversation. I think it goes along way with a lot of dancers. I never ask boyfriend/husband/kids/money questions unless the dancer brings the topic(s) up. Even then I'm not really interested. I can certainly understand why Eagles fans would annoy you.
It's interesting that a lot of dancers think they'd feel awkward or otherwise uncomfortable with guys they thought were hot (whatever that means to you).
Personally, I just don't get how you guys can perform for some of these much older or nastier guys without even thinking twice. It's downright heroic, dammit. I've never understood how you do it, that's why I was interested in seeing previous threads about that, but I'll be damned if I can find one. I understand now that SOMEHOW y'allz can look past that, but I think other people (myself included before I knew better) just assume you'd prefer to dance for guys you find attractive, or at least guys who were reasonably in shape, etc.
To be honest, yes, I probably give a better dance to guys I find attractive. It's more enjoyable for me and the chemistry is going to make it more fun for him.
But that doesn't mean I give bad dances to everyone else. It's going to be a hot dance as long as you behave yourself. The less you try to grab and grope, the more comfortable I am going to be dancing for you and the better the dance will be.
Alot of the really attractive or in shape guys seem to take you for granted or want more (like date) out of it. I know that for me, I'm looking for the lonely guys, the ones who want companionship. Most attractive men aren't in that boat. If they are, they seem to have some uglier internal problems.
My regular, for whom I will throw over any customer in the club, is self-described as "short, fat, and dumpy." He's in his late fifties. And I absolutely adore him (although I don't want to sleep with him), and prefer dancing for/talking to him above everyone else. I feel safe, secure, and comfortable with him. And he honestly appreciates me, especially because he can't get a girl like me in real life.
I do have to admit that the build of the guy that I'm dancing for does affect the moves I do, if only because I normally have to brace myself on the chair. If the man has no lap or is bulging over onto the armrests, the dance changes a bit.