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I'm a virgin & Christian
Customers always ask about my sex life & the truth is, I don't have 1 because I'm a virgin, a Christian, & do not plan on performing sexual acts until marriage. I know this seems very odd & rare since I strip so I lie to customers about my sex life. Can any1 else relate to me?
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Wow! Umm, no I can't lol! Well sort of, I'm Catholic so I have a large crucifix tattooed on my back and it's kind of weird when guys ask me why I have it...like, it's an akward place to discuss religion lol. I generally just say I'm Italian and my aunt whom I'm named after gave me a rosary when I was born, and when she died I had it tattooed on my back, which is actually the truth...But I am religous as well.
Good for you for sticking to your beliefs and being true to yourself! BTW, I personally don't think that sex is bad or anti-Christian tho...but if that's your decesion than more power to you :)
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I have known a few strippers who were virgins. Stripping is a lot about fantasy so try not to view what you are doing so much as "lieing" as much as it is "acting". Your personal business is none of theirs. I know lesbian strippers and married strippers who don't talk about their personal lives either. All of us pretend to be attracted to men that we wouldn't look at twice in other circumstances. Stick to your guns!
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your job of stimulating men sexually (that whole stripping in clubs thing) conflicts with your Christianity, it is the same kind of sin as if you were having sex outside of marriage. you're encouraging adultery and lust, and that encouragement is also sexual sin.
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^^^ Wow, miabella, that post just made me so glad not to be a Christian.
Sexyi86, I don't know what denomination you subscribe to, but whether it's against sex or not, I don't think G-d is. I think it's awesome that you're sticking to goals like that in the face of our current social pressure. Good for you!
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miabella
your job of stimulating men sexually (that whole stripping in clubs thing) conflicts with your Christianity, it is the same kind of sin as if you were having sex outside of marriage. you're encouraging adultery and lust, and that encouragement is also sexual sin.
No, miabella, it conflicts with YOUR Christianity. The OP didn't come here to learn Christianity the miabella way.
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miabella
your job of stimulating men sexually (that whole stripping in clubs thing) conflicts with your Christianity, it is the same kind of sin as if you were having sex outside of marriage. you're encouraging adultery and lust, and that encouragement is also sexual sin.
I obviously know stripping is not good for a Christian life but I absolutely love Christianity & still try to maintain the beliefs
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RoseLeigh
No, miabella, it conflicts with YOUR Christianity. The OP didn't come here to learn Christianity the miabella way.
Thank you!! Not to be harsh or anything but Mia everybody's religous beliefs are different, and personal. You can't speak for what her beliefs are.
still love ya, just sayin'
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she did not come here to be judged. No one is God so no one can judge her. Yes it does simulate sexual acts but it is acting most of the time. I'm a Christian too and I know many who dance are also so you are not the only one. In fact we have a chant at the end of the night of "God is good /All the time/All the time/God is good". One girl says the first part and the crowd answers. Those who do not wish to say it do not have to. It's been a tradition of ours for 3 years.
As for the sex stuff I am proud of you for waiting. I do wish I had waited. Most custies would think you were lying if you told them you're a virgin. Lying about your sex life is okay. I'd keep it up. Heck your sex life whether you're getting any or not really isn't any of their business but if they pry...well...fool them as much as you can.
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sexyi86
I obviously know stripping is not good for a Christian life but I absolutely love Christianity & still try to maintain the beliefs
stripping for money pretty directly conflicts with a Christian life. you're actively encouraging others to sin, which is, well, not Christian.
you know, if you feel defensive about doing what is pretty obviously not Christian from a reading of the Bible, you may just want to rethink your claim of loving Christianity. Christianity has very positive views of sexuality, but they aren't compatible with selling sex (either the idea of it or the reality of it).
And yeah, you can like sex without selling it. plenty of people love sex just fine without buying it. but sometimes after a time in the industry, you get to thinking that people who don't buy it are weird and must hate sex somehow, since by definition you wouldn't run into people who didn't desire to buy it.
maybe you idolise Christianity as an idea, rather than loving the actual religion, which is a difficult and complex religion. sexual sin is almost a misleading way to put things, since all sin is ultimately idolatry-- either seeking to be worshipped as a god or worshipping something other than Christ as a god.
plenty of people are into Christian culture, which uses corrupted ideas of Christianity to oppress others. but that's not Christianity, just a culture that borrows and twists some of its concepts.
i don't know where you are with Christ, or if you even know Him, but i can be optimistic and hope you recognise why it's not compatible with Him to dance naked for men you aren't married to.
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Mia, how did you deal with this conflict when you were dancing? I'm honestly curious, and think your answer might shed some light for the OP.
I have worked with more than one virgin, so you are not alone. As far as a discussion of your sex life, feel free to do what the rest of us do, which is lie and exaggerate.
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:censored: :camera: :O I was really looking for the smiley with his hands up/shrug.
I suppose this happens once in awhile- but I don't condone it. Better you than me. (I'm a stripper- who am I to judge?)::)
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I'm Pagan and that means we have one-on-one relationships with our gods and goddesses. We don't have 'middle-men' telling us what they (the deities) think and feel.
Honestly, screw what anyone else says you <i>should</i> be doing as a Christian, and focus on what you, personally, feel your god wants you to do.
If you feel he accepts you and loves you even if he's not that thrilled will your career choice (hey, didn't Jesus even love and accept a prostitute as a worthy person?) don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
As far as customers go, look at your job dancing as an acting role. You're not lying, you are playing a character, and take it from there. :)
Best of luck and the brightest of blessings on you!
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^Miabelle isn't speaking about what her beliefs are. I used to be a Christian,and threw that out the window a long time ago. But I do know that within that religion in order to call yourself a Christian you stuck true to all the words of the Bible. It's not Mia saying all these things, it is the Bible and Mia is simply reminding the OP. Yes people stray, and don't listen. Does that make them bad people? No, but it does make them somewhat hypocritical of their religion. I know some believe, well all you have to do is believe in God and that he sent his only son Jesus Christ to the earth to be slain and forgive us of our sins etc. But the truth is you also need to live that life.
I'm not against what she is doing by any means! I'm just saying that's where Mia is coming in.
On the other hand to the OP. I didn't struggle with this while dancing, but I have only had sex with one man, my fiance and for the longest time I wasn't going to have sex until marriage. I still lied about it, and felt badly (at times) but it's all part of the act. Guys in the club do NOT believe that I've only had relations with one man. They kinda get into it. If you want to take it further, you can always wink and say something like "I didn't say anything about girls though". Also, a lot of guys find it very attractive that you haven't had sex yet. You don't have to go into full details (lying by submission) but you can say, I'm a virgin and have never had sex. I'm waiting....
Guys find this to be a turn on I've found. They put some sort of idea into their heads that that translates into "I'm going to the first one ot bang her" Even though we both know it's not the truth.
I hope you find your comfort level in the club. The more comfortable you are, the more money and confidence you'll have!
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Originally Posted by
miabella
your job of stimulating men sexually (that whole stripping in clubs thing) conflicts with your Christianity, it is the same kind of sin as if you were having sex outside of marriage. you're encouraging adultery and lust, and that encouragement is also sexual sin.
Thank G-d I'm an atheist.
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Originally Posted by
miabella
your job of stimulating men sexually (that whole stripping in clubs thing) conflicts with your Christianity, it is the same kind of sin as if you were having sex outside of marriage. you're encouraging adultery and lust, and that encouragement is also sexual sin.
that's YOUR opinion.
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wow. this is why i am a spiritual person and dont believe everythign i read and hear. the god i believe in doesnt care if i capitalize his name, or get naked for money.
miabella, you need to get off your high horse, if you believe in all that, then what are you doing here? and if you dont believe in all that why are you trying to tell her what she should believe? god you act like she should hand out bible tracts with her dances.
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Miabella, I am super curious what a super conservative sounding christian such as yourself is even doing on a board for a bunch of sinful, tempting whores such as ourselves anyway?
OP I can't talk to you about religion because I am most definitely NOT a christian, nor do I "love" christianity.
However, I danced for about a year when I was a virgin. Maybe you have experienced this but dancing made me want to hang onto it even LONGER once I realized how disgusting some men are.
I never told anyone I was a virgin, because I knew they wouldn't believe me. Truthfully, it was easier to dance after having sex, but I still don't tell people details about my sex life. If people start asking questions, usually I say something like "a lady never tells *grin* and you know we're ALL ladies here." Usually they will laugh. Or you can say something like "I'll leave it your imagination." Then steer the conversation onwards.
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Miabella, I also had a very negative reaction to your post... but I'm not sure how to put how I feel about it in words, so I'll just reply to the OP.
My mom is a Mormon (raised mormon, 1st husband was LDS, she scrapped the whole organized thing when she divorced him but still follows most of the beliefs). My dad's family is super Southern Baptist (I'm from SC).
I've basically struggled with the whole religion and sexuality thing my entire life. I so WANTED to believe in everything my parents and pastors and sunday school teachers were telling me about sex, but I was always a very sexual person and really couldn't deny it. I dealt with a great deal of personal anguish over this in highschool. The conclusion I came to was that I was agnostic...but thats kinda not the point here.
OP, I would just do a great deal of soul searching if you think something you love to do is in conflict with your religious beliefs. Read the bible. Interpret it for YOURSELF. Talking to a pastor or someone in your church may sound like a good idea, but what you'll get is counseling on THEIR version of the bible.
The reason the printing press was SUCH a huge deal when it came to religion is because personal intrepretation of the bible (and your chosen religion) will begin to open many, many doors to you spiritually (or it may do the opposite, which happened for me). Neither is bad. With me, as I started to read and really think about it all, my logical side won out in the end.
The point is to gain a better understanding for YOURSELF, whether you continue on in your religion (carrying with you whatever you learned and ascertained about whatever is conflicting you), changing religions, or scrapping it all together.
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To the OP: I cannot relate but I just wanted to say how impressed I am with you sticking to your own personal values. I think it is admirable and if I was in your position I wouldn't lie about it one bit. Congrats to you. :)
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To each his own. :shrug:
If you don't want to have sex before you're married, that's your choice whether it's for religious reasons or not. But if the reason IS religious, I think your choice of um.. employment.. is questionable. Of course you can be an entertainer and not give sexual favors, etc, but you're propogating the sexual desire of the men for whom you're dancing. And if you're really concerned about burning in hell or whatever your religion entails, I don't see how you can handle being the one who gives men all their 'great ideas'.
But, like I said, to each his own. I don't know what's in your head and in your heart. And I don't think it's sinful or bad to be a dancer. But then again, I'm not religious.
I do however, admire you for having a belief and sticking to it. I wasn't going to have sex until I was married, and let me tell you I fucked that up really nicely. Being steadfast and true to what you believe is a virtue. Good for you.
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miabella, i'd like to know your story as well.
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Good on you for being complex. Here's hoping that your post-marriage sex life doesn't suck - I really mean that, and I'm actually sincere. But hey, I'm just a queer experimental pervert. In the meantime, be who you want to be.